[cfaussie] Re: Friday arvo O.T - thinking of giving up Apple and going back to Windows.
If you are using a windows keyboard though its Alt+C :) -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 4:00 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Friday arvo O.T - thinking of giving up Apple and going back to Windows. Apple-C is Ctrl-C Ctrl is yet another function-special key (more like the properties key, RHS on a Win keyboard) One thing I noticed when I got my Mac and then went on holidays with it for a couple of months, picking up free Wi-Fi in Amsterdam or internet cafe's all over Italy, storing and editing 6,000 photo's with iPhoto, playing music, watching movies, was how unimportant the operating system actually was, a point rammed home to me using Linux Desktop on public machines all over Finland. file system access, plug-n-play, drag'n'drop and the applications themselves and it could be a new Amiga or Apricot or BeOS or anything really - as long as it worked as I expected. but then again, I didn't need to worry about hard-core use of the video card for some Adobe apps or games ... like I do now, hence starting the thread. eh my 2c. mind you, I still reckon Windows Explorer and Search pisses all over Finder and Spotlight. Even Konqueror is better. but that's just my workflow. On Nov 22, 2007 2:02 PM, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on the verge of throwing in the Mac towel.. its nothing really specific just that unless I'm using Adobe Products + iLife etc, the majority of my time is spent in Windows Vista.. the one annoyance I have is the keyboard layout vs windows etc.. like APPLE + C for copy? what the heck is wrong with CTRL + C.. I know you can remap the keyboard but not all software inherits this...i now have a MacBook Pro and an iMac so its a bitter pill to swallow :) But .. i still make use of it on the road and thats what matters I guess :) On Nov 18, 2007 4:24 PM, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many reasons do you really need to give up a Mac? if it gets like that, one wonders why travel down that road in the first place... heck, if it's good enough for Scott Barnes to pick up a Mac (and open a Mac.com account) then it can't be all bad. Perhaps the question should be how many reasons does it take to give up a Mac? In my case, sadly, just one. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
I really enjoyed CFCAMP today, it was my first CF thang since the MX 7 launch and it was really worth the effort. Nice to put faces to names and see a decent crowd of people turn up. I thought Peter Bell's talk was the highlight for me talking about code generation and DSL's. Andrew, I agree about the CF8 lag on AJAX libraries being a major concern, but at least we can trust that when they upgraded, existing code will still just work :) Thanks to all the people who presented and traveled to Melbourne from OS or interstate for the event. To people in Melbourne who missed out or couldn't attend, your attendance makes at difference and it is an investment in your both own career, in terms of knowledge, networking and demonstrating to Adobe that you exist!! z On Nov 22, 2007 6:38 PM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) I am not a big fan of the CF8 Ajax features, sure for small applications they bring some nice functionality. However the bigger problem is that the technology is based on code that is now 2 years old, and when the next version of CF is released I hope they patch this technology (minor version of course). However the binding options is extremely good:-) On 11/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't understate the value of these events. It's a way to learn, to meet people you might know from a list, catch with regulars and engage new people. I really enjoyed all the talks, it was a good mix of both CF8 and general content. The talks were all about 45 minutes, which I think is a good length, not too long or short. I know there are a lot of sleepers on CFAUSSIE who didn't attend and you really missed out. All that were there and put your hand up that you were on CFAUSSIE. I really urge you to attend the End Of year ColdFusion User Group. Steve Mark do a stellar job putting this together, and I will be talking on CF8 Ajax features which is something every ColdFusion programmer needs to learn and use. Regards Dale Fraser -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -- Zac Spitzer http://zacster.blogspot.com/ +61 405 847 168 (aussie moible) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] CFCamp Melbourne
To all those involved in making this happen, my thanks. I really enjoyed the event, the networking and the drinks after. The range of topics was great, from down-and-dirty to high level / conceptual, and excellent line up. Peter Robertson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Friday arvo O.T - thinking of giving up Apple and going back to Windows.
On Nov 22, 2007 3:02 PM, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... what the heck is wrong with CTRL + C.. Don't you mean 'what the heck is wrong with COMMAND + C', afterall where did Microsoft get the idea in the first place? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne
MrBuzzy, did we manage to meet, and i just didn't know it? or did I manage to skip you when wandering around saying hello to people? Mark On Nov 22, 2007 5:00 PM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we're done. Thanks to the organisers and presenters, it was an excellent event. I'm sure others would agree. Peter bell's talk was inspiring mark and robin's were great too. Now i'm scurrying home to rewrite my apps :) thanks to all. Hopefully it's a yearly thing, or better. Cheers. On 11/22/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arg! I better get in the shower! Or I'm going to be late! (Just thought I would share that with you lot ;o) ) Mark On Nov 21, 2007 10:59 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope we get free game chips so I can hit the poker tables afterwards. PS: Anyone get a spare minute in their preso, give learncf.com a plug. Cough Mark Cough Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:45 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne You better be there dale :) Mark - no name tags for me... But I won't say no to a post CFCAMP meet and drink... On 11/21/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I think I'm going to come just to see how many people turn up. I think there are sleepers in there that might show. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Lu Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 9:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne I'll come :) On 21/11/2007, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and my colleague so thats 7 and 8... I believe we have enough to fill up the front row now! On Nov 21, 3:27 pm, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh! Registrations for the event look really good, so there should be a bit more of a turn out than 4. I mean Geoff, and Robin will be there too! That's at least 6! :oD Mark On Nov 21, 2007 3:25 PM, Toby Tremayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent, so - four and maybe Dale. Should rock! ;) On 11/21/07, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there - my first coldfusion related event since moving to melbourne, looking forward to it. Cheers Chris Silwedel -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne
I met Mr Buzzy, you might have missed him because he didn't look anything like a Bee. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 6:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne MrBuzzy, did we manage to meet, and i just didn't know it? or did I manage to skip you when wandering around saying hello to people? Mark On Nov 22, 2007 5:00 PM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we're done. Thanks to the organisers and presenters, it was an excellent event. I'm sure others would agree. Peter bell's talk was inspiring mark and robin's were great too. Now i'm scurrying home to rewrite my apps :) thanks to all. Hopefully it's a yearly thing, or better. Cheers. On 11/22/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arg! I better get in the shower! Or I'm going to be late! (Just thought I would share that with you lot ;o) ) Mark On Nov 21, 2007 10:59 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope we get free game chips so I can hit the poker tables afterwards. PS: Anyone get a spare minute in their preso, give learncf.com a plug. Cough Mark Cough Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:45 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne You better be there dale :) Mark - no name tags for me... But I won't say no to a post CFCAMP meet and drink... On 11/21/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I think I'm going to come just to see how many people turn up. I think there are sleepers in there that might show. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Lu Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 9:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne I'll come :) On 21/11/2007, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and my colleague so thats 7 and 8... I believe we have enough to fill up the front row now! On Nov 21, 3:27 pm, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh! Registrations for the event look really good, so there should be a bit more of a turn out than 4. I mean Geoff, and Robin will be there too! That's at least 6! :oD Mark On Nov 21, 2007 3:25 PM, Toby Tremayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent, so - four and maybe Dale. Should rock! ;) On 11/21/07, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there - my first coldfusion related event since moving to melbourne, looking forward to it. Cheers Chris Silwedel -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] CF Camp - Sydney
Thanks to all that were involved in organizing CF Camp - it was great! Being the best city in the world, I am sure our CF Camp in Sydney was the best as well :-) I really enjoyed all the presentations. They were all well structured / presented with many examples which is the best way method of understanding new concepts. I think the event is a great asset to any CF developer and if you didn't make it to CF Camp this year, I think it's a must next year (if the event is on). Cheers, Rony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Thank you everyone who organised this great event. I was very enjoy it :). My management wants to move our IT environment to Microsoft platform. I'll convince my manager ColdFusion is still a decent and edge technology. PS. I'm still waiting for CF8 (we have subscribed) On 23/11/2007, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!
you got an idea for a feature request for CF9 cool. Wanna share? (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video encoding libraries: AVI - FLV for auto processing) both wish and bugs can be sent via http://www.adobe.com/go/wish which redirects to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp useful? On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody remember this? Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8? I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any success. Patrick. On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week! * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention Exhibition Centre * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things kick off. The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open much earlier so go figure. The final agenda for each city is available online: http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/ Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues in the hall way. Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8 (Standard) at each CFCAMP? You'll have to be officially registered to be in with a chance. Still plenty of space left so tell your friends: http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/ See you there, -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p.+612 9380 4162 f.+612 9380 4204 w.http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying CFCAMP is this week and next week didn't sound as good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
George, the best bit is the breath and depth of Adobe technology. as the guys at the camp said (esp at the start with Adam) is how ColdFusion is part of a whole lot of Adobe stuff... Flex integration, LiveCycle Data Services is only the start. Don't just look at ColdFusion, look at the Adobe Technology stack, of which ColdFusion is right in the middle of. On Nov 23, 2007 9:23 AM, George Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone who organised this great event. I was very enjoy it :). My management wants to move our IT environment to Microsoft platform. I'll convince my manager ColdFusion is still a decent and edge technology. PS. I'm still waiting for CF8 (we have subscribed) On 23/11/2007, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne
We almost met... I couldn't get a word in :) I didn't want to curb your enthusiam. Looks like I missed the post-event-drinkies. There's always next time... On Nov 23, 2007 6:51 AM, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MrBuzzy, did we manage to meet, and i just didn't know it? or did I manage to skip you when wandering around saying hello to people? Mark On Nov 22, 2007 5:00 PM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we're done. Thanks to the organisers and presenters, it was an excellent event. I'm sure others would agree. Peter bell's talk was inspiring mark and robin's were great too. Now i'm scurrying home to rewrite my apps :) thanks to all. Hopefully it's a yearly thing, or better. Cheers. On 11/22/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arg! I better get in the shower! Or I'm going to be late! (Just thought I would share that with you lot ;o) ) Mark On Nov 21, 2007 10:59 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope we get free game chips so I can hit the poker tables afterwards. PS: Anyone get a spare minute in their preso, give learncf.com a plug. Cough Mark Cough Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:45 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne You better be there dale :) Mark - no name tags for me... But I won't say no to a post CFCAMP meet and drink... On 11/21/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I think I'm going to come just to see how many people turn up. I think there are sleepers in there that might show. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Lu Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 9:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne I'll come :) On 21/11/2007, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and my colleague so thats 7 and 8... I believe we have enough to fill up the front row now! On Nov 21, 3:27 pm, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh! Registrations for the event look really good, so there should be a bit more of a turn out than 4. I mean Geoff, and Robin will be there too! That's at least 6! :oD Mark On Nov 21, 2007 3:25 PM, Toby Tremayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent, so - four and maybe Dale. Should rock! ;) On 11/21/07, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there - my first coldfusion related event since moving to melbourne, looking forward to it. Cheers Chris Silwedel -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Guys, don't forget that the Refresh event was a different flavour... CFCAMP was a community-based, grass roots event. In the case of Melbourne, it was the hard work of Steve Onnis and Mark Mandel (with help from others I hear as well - Dale, etc) _in_partnership_ with national community leaders (Geoff Bowers, Robin Hilliard) AND Adobe Australia (Mark Blair, Andrew Spaulding). Heck, even Peter Bell put his hand up at his own expence - and he's suppose to be on holidays to our country. that's very different to Refresh, which was an Adobe roadshow - or indeed WebDU which is Geoff Bowers and others giving back to the community (where Adobe are just a sponsor) in the case of CFCAMP, all the user groups and their managers were involved in getting the event to happen in each city. Adobe Australia worked hard in securing the international speakers as well as organising the event venues. don't discount the efforts of the local community people in getting this event happening. *Your* local community people. *Your* CFUG. eh, my 2c. barry.b On Nov 23, 2007 10:49 AM, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, I was refering to the Max Refresh on October 31 which was free as well, though it was one big wrapup of Max by the local Adobe staff. It was held after the Masterclass Photoshop session. It was held at one of the event rooms at telstra dome. Cheers, Chong On Nov 23, 11:45 am, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi KC Kuok, I have disagree that the 2 conference should become one. I know for me personally that the cost of attending MAX and being to busy was why I didn't go. The fact that CFCAMP was free and just around the corner meant that I could pop in and out for the session I wanted. If I had to pay for it I wouldn't have been able to justify only attending half of the day. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. I hope that CFCAMP will run every year! BTW: perhaps Adobe could take a leaf out of MS book and market CF differently to grow the community (easy to say, hard to do). But this could be a double edged sword; because if there were more CF developers out there than we'd be worth less $$$... we just need to keep it balanced between a mature decent sized community VS every man and his dog claiming that he can program in CF and diluting the market. I'm off to have a look at TransferORM now. Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 11:25 am, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the speakers were much appreciated, but especially those from overseas... can't wait for the slides from the talks to be put up, I will probably most need the one where CF is a platform that can sit and speak to the other technologies (like .Net, MS Exchange, etc) and adobes own Flash/Flex, Acrobat generation stuff. To show my management that CF has more depth and advantages then what .Net will offer. (TBH i never thought of CF that way, as a platform rather than a web language, abit of marketing there but it is true) I think many businesses will move to an all windows platform because most of management are not involved in the day to day development processes, and because of the marketing dollars MS puts in this part of the world, comparatively people will start believing MS is the best option (and sometimes the only option). CF is too good to be our dirty little secret. Such events will help to grow the community in this part of the world, and also the visibility to the decision makers. Though I do reckon the events should be planned a little more in advanced and have a bigger profile. E.g. the MAX refresh(?) and CFCAMP this year were fairly good this year, but would have been better if both were held together across 2 days? I understand that it was abit of a rush this year, but it could be a mainstay annual event for the major cities. WebDU is good, but not everyone can make it every year, due to monetary and scheduling reasons, it may scavenger WebDU in the short run, but in the long run, a bigger CF community can't hurt. In the years to come, CF and Flex developers will be the one, Adobe RIA developer ? (any such combination title yet?, via adobe certification of course) It seems there are certifications for being an instructor only for Flex and CF, that the only way to go now? Does anyone know when the CF8 certification is out? And is there any for Flex in aus yet? On Nov 23, 10:28 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George, the best bit is the breath and depth of Adobe technology. as the guys at the camp said (esp at the start with Adam) is how ColdFusion is part of a whole lot of Adobe stuff... Flex integration, LiveCycle Data Services is only the start. Don't just look at ColdFusion, look at the Adobe Technology stack, of which ColdFusion is right in the middle of. On Nov 23, 2007 9:23 AM, George Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne
Awww.. you should have interrupted me, I tend to ramble ;) Mark On Nov 23, 2007 11:25 AM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We almost met... I couldn't get a word in :) I didn't want to curb your enthusiam. Looks like I missed the post-event-drinkies. There's always next time... On Nov 23, 2007 6:51 AM, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MrBuzzy, did we manage to meet, and i just didn't know it? or did I manage to skip you when wandering around saying hello to people? Mark On Nov 22, 2007 5:00 PM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we're done. Thanks to the organisers and presenters, it was an excellent event. I'm sure others would agree. Peter bell's talk was inspiring mark and robin's were great too. Now i'm scurrying home to rewrite my apps :) thanks to all. Hopefully it's a yearly thing, or better. Cheers. On 11/22/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arg! I better get in the shower! Or I'm going to be late! (Just thought I would share that with you lot ;o) ) Mark On Nov 21, 2007 10:59 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope we get free game chips so I can hit the poker tables afterwards. PS: Anyone get a spare minute in their preso, give learncf.com a plug. Cough Mark Cough Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:45 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne You better be there dale :) Mark - no name tags for me... But I won't say no to a post CFCAMP meet and drink... On 11/21/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I think I'm going to come just to see how many people turn up. I think there are sleepers in there that might show. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of George Lu Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 9:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne I'll come :) On 21/11/2007, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and my colleague so thats 7 and 8... I believe we have enough to fill up the front row now! On Nov 21, 3:27 pm, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh! Registrations for the event look really good, so there should be a bit more of a turn out than 4. I mean Geoff, and Robin will be there too! That's at least 6! :oD Mark On Nov 21, 2007 3:25 PM, Toby Tremayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent, so - four and maybe Dale. Should rock! ;) On 11/21/07, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there - my first coldfusion related event since moving to melbourne, looking forward to it. Cheers Chris Silwedel -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Hi KC Kuok, I have disagree that the 2 conference should become one. I know for me personally that the cost of attending MAX and being to busy was why I didn't go. The fact that CFCAMP was free and just around the corner meant that I could pop in and out for the session I wanted. If I had to pay for it I wouldn't have been able to justify only attending half of the day. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. I hope that CFCAMP will run every year! BTW: perhaps Adobe could take a leaf out of MS book and market CF differently to grow the community (easy to say, hard to do). But this could be a double edged sword; because if there were more CF developers out there than we'd be worth less $$$... we just need to keep it balanced between a mature decent sized community VS every man and his dog claiming that he can program in CF and diluting the market. I'm off to have a look at TransferORM now. Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 11:25 am, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the speakers were much appreciated, but especially those from overseas... can't wait for the slides from the talks to be put up, I will probably most need the one where CF is a platform that can sit and speak to the other technologies (like .Net, MS Exchange, etc) and adobes own Flash/Flex, Acrobat generation stuff. To show my management that CF has more depth and advantages then what .Net will offer. (TBH i never thought of CF that way, as a platform rather than a web language, abit of marketing there but it is true) I think many businesses will move to an all windows platform because most of management are not involved in the day to day development processes, and because of the marketing dollars MS puts in this part of the world, comparatively people will start believing MS is the best option (and sometimes the only option). CF is too good to be our dirty little secret. Such events will help to grow the community in this part of the world, and also the visibility to the decision makers. Though I do reckon the events should be planned a little more in advanced and have a bigger profile. E.g. the MAX refresh(?) and CFCAMP this year were fairly good this year, but would have been better if both were held together across 2 days? I understand that it was abit of a rush this year, but it could be a mainstay annual event for the major cities. WebDU is good, but not everyone can make it every year, due to monetary and scheduling reasons, it may scavenger WebDU in the short run, but in the long run, a bigger CF community can't hurt. In the years to come, CF and Flex developers will be the one, Adobe RIA developer ? (any such combination title yet?, via adobe certification of course) It seems there are certifications for being an instructor only for Flex and CF, that the only way to go now? Does anyone know when the CF8 certification is out? And is there any for Flex in aus yet? On Nov 23, 10:28 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George, the best bit is the breath and depth of Adobe technology. as the guys at the camp said (esp at the start with Adam) is how ColdFusion is part of a whole lot of Adobe stuff... Flex integration, LiveCycle Data Services is only the start. Don't just look at ColdFusion, look at the Adobe Technology stack, of which ColdFusion is right in the middle of. On Nov 23, 2007 9:23 AM, George Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone who organised this great event. I was very enjoy it :). My management wants to move our IT environment to Microsoft platform. I'll convince my manager ColdFusion is still a decent and edge technology. PS. I'm still waiting for CF8 (we have subscribed) On 23/11/2007, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL
[cfaussie] Testing of CF app
Hello all, Just throwing this out in the group one more time before we launch on the 1st of Dec. We've had some testing done, and we've either made such a s%^t hot application that no one can break it, or no one has found the right combination to break it yet. I put my money on the last, so have another go. If there is anyone else out there wanting to have a crack and see if they can find the holes others haven't, please do so on http://testing.clickfind.com.au:777 -- *** http://www.clickfind.com.au The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Hi Matthew, I was refering to the Max Refresh on October 31 which was free as well, though it was one big wrapup of Max by the local Adobe staff. It was held after the Masterclass Photoshop session. It was held at one of the event rooms at telstra dome. Cheers, Chong On Nov 23, 11:45 am, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi KC Kuok, I have disagree that the 2 conference should become one. I know for me personally that the cost of attending MAX and being to busy was why I didn't go. The fact that CFCAMP was free and just around the corner meant that I could pop in and out for the session I wanted. If I had to pay for it I wouldn't have been able to justify only attending half of the day. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. I hope that CFCAMP will run every year! BTW: perhaps Adobe could take a leaf out of MS book and market CF differently to grow the community (easy to say, hard to do). But this could be a double edged sword; because if there were more CF developers out there than we'd be worth less $$$... we just need to keep it balanced between a mature decent sized community VS every man and his dog claiming that he can program in CF and diluting the market. I'm off to have a look at TransferORM now. Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 11:25 am, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the speakers were much appreciated, but especially those from overseas... can't wait for the slides from the talks to be put up, I will probably most need the one where CF is a platform that can sit and speak to the other technologies (like .Net, MS Exchange, etc) and adobes own Flash/Flex, Acrobat generation stuff. To show my management that CF has more depth and advantages then what .Net will offer. (TBH i never thought of CF that way, as a platform rather than a web language, abit of marketing there but it is true) I think many businesses will move to an all windows platform because most of management are not involved in the day to day development processes, and because of the marketing dollars MS puts in this part of the world, comparatively people will start believing MS is the best option (and sometimes the only option). CF is too good to be our dirty little secret. Such events will help to grow the community in this part of the world, and also the visibility to the decision makers. Though I do reckon the events should be planned a little more in advanced and have a bigger profile. E.g. the MAX refresh(?) and CFCAMP this year were fairly good this year, but would have been better if both were held together across 2 days? I understand that it was abit of a rush this year, but it could be a mainstay annual event for the major cities. WebDU is good, but not everyone can make it every year, due to monetary and scheduling reasons, it may scavenger WebDU in the short run, but in the long run, a bigger CF community can't hurt. In the years to come, CF and Flex developers will be the one, Adobe RIA developer ? (any such combination title yet?, via adobe certification of course) It seems there are certifications for being an instructor only for Flex and CF, that the only way to go now? Does anyone know when the CF8 certification is out? And is there any for Flex in aus yet? On Nov 23, 10:28 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George, the best bit is the breath and depth of Adobe technology. as the guys at the camp said (esp at the start with Adam) is how ColdFusion is part of a whole lot of Adobe stuff... Flex integration, LiveCycle Data Services is only the start. Don't just look at ColdFusion, look at the Adobe Technology stack, of which ColdFusion is right in the middle of. On Nov 23, 2007 9:23 AM, George Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone who organised this great event. I was very enjoy it :). My management wants to move our IT environment to Microsoft platform. I'll convince my manager ColdFusion is still a decent and edge technology. PS. I'm still waiting for CF8 (we have subscribed) On 23/11/2007, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very
[cfaussie] CF8 on Solaris's?
I've been looking at the system requirements for CF8; http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_systemsupportmatrix.pdf I was hoping to install it on OpenSolaris 11 - but it's not supported. Any suggestions? Would there be a way to make it happen? Maybe I could deploy it inside Tomcat... Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Adobe eSeminar - local application showcase @ 2pm Sydney time today!
I'm confused! Is it on in April??? spaulds wrote: *snip* This friday @ 2pm Australian Easter Daylight Savings Time. *snip* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!
this is starting to get off-topic from CFCAMP, but since I want the feature: http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/f007d0a54e8a8bbf?hl=en#6d9d1b448182c79e http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/ac9bc51cf21f982a?hl=en#dc859d7e04025d7a 1) nested transactions are built into decent databases like SQLServer 2) nested transactions and partial roll-backs are built into both Java and the .NET platform, esp ADO.NET. 3) Why? this pretty much sums it up: Without nested transactions, you have to put them at the top level, which means every service method (unless you use AOP) has to care. That may or may not be a good thing, but programmers forget things. Conceptually I'd like my manager1.get() to be one transaction, manager2.update() another, fileLogger.write() a third, with one 'update record' transaction around the lot - belt and braces defensive programming. On Nov 23, 2007 11:29 AM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want nested cftransactions? The database doesn't support this anyway, and would be a nightmare to implement. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 10:25 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week! you got an idea for a feature request for CF9 cool. Wanna share? (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video encoding libraries: AVI - FLV for auto processing) both wish and bugs can be sent via http://www.adobe.com/go/wish which redirects to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp useful? On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody remember this? Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8? I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any success. Patrick. On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week! * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention Exhibition Centre * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things kick off. The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open much earlier so go figure. The final agenda for each city is available online: http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/ Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues in the hall way. Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8 (Standard) at each CFCAMP? You'll have to be officially registered to be in with a chance. Still plenty of space left so tell your friends: http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/ See you there, -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p.+612 9380 4162 f.+612 9380 4204 w.http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying CFCAMP is this week and next week didn't sound as good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Transactions (was Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!)
So, really, what you want are not really nested transactions in the database sense, but more in the AOP sense; Apparently ColdSpring supports AOP. Maybe you should have a play with that? Barry Beattie wrote: this is starting to get off-topic from CFCAMP, but since I want the feature: http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/f007d0a54e8a8bbf?hl=en#6d9d1b448182c79e http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/ac9bc51cf21f982a?hl=en#dc859d7e04025d7a 1) nested transactions are built into decent databases like SQLServer 2) nested transactions and partial roll-backs are built into both Java and the .NET platform, esp ADO.NET. 3) Why? this pretty much sums it up: Without nested transactions, you have to put them at the top level, which means every service method (unless you use AOP) has to care. That may or may not be a good thing, but programmers forget things. Conceptually I'd like my manager1.get() to be one transaction, manager2.update() another, fileLogger.write() a third, with one 'update record' transaction around the lot - belt and braces defensive programming. On Nov 23, 2007 11:29 AM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want nested cftransactions? The database doesn't support this anyway, and would be a nightmare to implement. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 10:25 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week! you got an idea for a feature request for CF9 cool. Wanna share? (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video encoding libraries: AVI - FLV for auto processing) both wish and bugs can be sent via http://www.adobe.com/go/wish which redirects to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp useful? On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody remember this? Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8? I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any success. Patrick. On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week! * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention Exhibition Centre * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things kick off. The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open much earlier so go figure. The final agenda for each city is available online: http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/ Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues in the hall way. Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8 (Standard) at each CFCAMP? You'll have to be officially registered to be in with a chance. Still plenty of space left so tell your friends: http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/ See you there, -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p.+612 9380 4162 f.+612 9380 4204 w.http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying CFCAMP is this week and next week didn't sound as good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Adobe eSeminar - local application showcase @ 2pm Sydney time today!
Come and check out 2 great locally developed applications using ColdFusion and Flex respectively. Visit http://pacific.adobe.acrobat.com/developer and enter as a guest. This friday @ 2pm Australian Easter Daylight Savings Time. Andrew Spaulding Adobe http://www.flexdaddy.info --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne
Now that sounds like MarkJ Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:25 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Role call: CFCAMP Melbourne We almost met... I couldn't get a word in :) I didn't want to curb your enthusiam. Looks like I missed the post-event-drinkies. There's always next time... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Transactions (was Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!)
Barry, Will hide my head in shame for not knowing that one:-( Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!
Why would you want nested cftransactions? The database doesn't support this anyway, and would be a nightmare to implement. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 10:25 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week! you got an idea for a feature request for CF9 cool. Wanna share? (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video encoding libraries: AVI - FLV for auto processing) both wish and bugs can be sent via http://www.adobe.com/go/wish which redirects to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp useful? On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody remember this? Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8? I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any success. Patrick. On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week! * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention Exhibition Centre * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things kick off. The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open much earlier so go figure. The final agenda for each city is available online: http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/ Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues in the hall way. Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8 (Standard) at each CFCAMP? You'll have to be officially registered to be in with a chance. Still plenty of space left so tell your friends: http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/ See you there, -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p.+612 9380 4162 f.+612 9380 4204 w.http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying CFCAMP is this week and next week didn't sound as good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Transactions (was Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!)
Barry Beattie wrote: AOP will helps in some cases, but not all. I can labour the point with examples if you want. Maybe one or two? I can't say I know a lot about this area, but if I know what stumbling blocks you're facing, I can, if nothing else, watch the radar for solutions. (And forewarned is forearmed) besides, if nested transactions was a waste of time, why is it in Java .NET? I can't speak for .Net, but my experience with Java is that it offers a 1000 ways to skin a cat. Just because something is there does not necessarily mean you should use it. The standard API does have quite a few items, which for some reason or other, are broken at the worst, and violate principle of least surprise at best. Just look up the Java Puzzlers video on Google Tech Talks if you want specifics. I'm not saying your idea is a bad one, just that there's many ways of doing things. That said, my original point still stands though. ColdSpring looks like it has potential to solve your problem. And it's there for use now, rather than whenever CF9 comes out. On Nov 23, 2007 12:00 PM, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, really, what you want are not really nested transactions in the database sense, but more in the AOP sense; Apparently ColdSpring supports AOP. Maybe you should have a play with that? Barry Beattie wrote: this is starting to get off-topic from CFCAMP, but since I want the feature: http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/f007d0a54e8a8bbf?hl=en#6d9d1b448182c79e http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/ac9bc51cf21f982a?hl=en#dc859d7e04025d7a 1) nested transactions are built into decent databases like SQLServer 2) nested transactions and partial roll-backs are built into both Java and the .NET platform, esp ADO.NET. 3) Why? this pretty much sums it up: Without nested transactions, you have to put them at the top level, which means every service method (unless you use AOP) has to care. That may or may not be a good thing, but programmers forget things. Conceptually I'd like my manager1.get() to be one transaction, manager2.update() another, fileLogger.write() a third, with one 'update record' transaction around the lot - belt and braces defensive programming. On Nov 23, 2007 11:29 AM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want nested cftransactions? The database doesn't support this anyway, and would be a nightmare to implement. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 10:25 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week! you got an idea for a feature request for CF9 cool. Wanna share? (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video encoding libraries: AVI - FLV for auto processing) both wish and bugs can be sent via http://www.adobe.com/go/wish which redirects to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp useful? On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody remember this? Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8? I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any success. Patrick. On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week! * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention Exhibition Centre * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things kick off. The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open much earlier so go figure. The final agenda for each city is available online: http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/ Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues in the hall way. Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8 (Standard) at each CFCAMP? You'll have to be officially registered to be in with a chance. Still plenty of space left so tell your friends: http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/ See you there, -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p.+612 9380 4162 f.+612 9380 4204 w.http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying CFCAMP is this week and next week didn't sound as good.
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 on Solaris's?
On Nov 23, 2007 1:03 PM, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not supported may not mean it won't work Yeah I guess so. With my limited knowledge of Unix systems, I assume the Solaris installer wouldn't run on a Open Solaris 11 (running on a VM) with an Intel chip :( For now, I can't even get the installer uploaded to the server (it look all night and then failed) - using a large chunk of my monthly download cap. I looked for a way to download the installer directly from Adobe to the Solaris server - it seems the Adobe site won't work with the Lynx browser. Unless someone knows the direct url to download it? Without having to log in to Adobe. but keep in mind, it's your funeral. I would happily trash the server trying to get CF8 working - it's just a play pen. Cheers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Transactions (was Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!)
AOP will helps in some cases, but not all. I can labour the point with examples if you want. besides, if nested transactions was a waste of time, why is it in Java .NET? On Nov 23, 2007 12:00 PM, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, really, what you want are not really nested transactions in the database sense, but more in the AOP sense; Apparently ColdSpring supports AOP. Maybe you should have a play with that? Barry Beattie wrote: this is starting to get off-topic from CFCAMP, but since I want the feature: http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/f007d0a54e8a8bbf?hl=en#6d9d1b448182c79e http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/ac9bc51cf21f982a?hl=en#dc859d7e04025d7a 1) nested transactions are built into decent databases like SQLServer 2) nested transactions and partial roll-backs are built into both Java and the .NET platform, esp ADO.NET. 3) Why? this pretty much sums it up: Without nested transactions, you have to put them at the top level, which means every service method (unless you use AOP) has to care. That may or may not be a good thing, but programmers forget things. Conceptually I'd like my manager1.get() to be one transaction, manager2.update() another, fileLogger.write() a third, with one 'update record' transaction around the lot - belt and braces defensive programming. On Nov 23, 2007 11:29 AM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want nested cftransactions? The database doesn't support this anyway, and would be a nightmare to implement. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 10:25 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week! you got an idea for a feature request for CF9 cool. Wanna share? (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video encoding libraries: AVI - FLV for auto processing) both wish and bugs can be sent via http://www.adobe.com/go/wish which redirects to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp useful? On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody remember this? Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8? I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any success. Patrick. On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week! * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention Exhibition Centre * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things kick off. The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open much earlier so go figure. The final agenda for each city is available online: http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/ Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues in the hall way. Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8 (Standard) at each CFCAMP? You'll have to be officially registered to be in with a chance. Still plenty of space left so tell your friends: http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/ See you there, -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p.+612 9380 4162 f.+612 9380 4204 w.http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying CFCAMP is this week and next week didn't sound as good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 on Solaris's?
not supported may not mean it won't work - it just means that you're on your own if something goes wrong. Might not be fully tested. running CF6.1 on a Mac wasn't supported. Yet it worked. but keep in mind, it's your funeral. On Nov 23, 2007 10:37 AM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking at the system requirements for CF8; http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_systemsupportmatrix.pdf I was hoping to install it on OpenSolaris 11 - but it's not supported. Any suggestions? Would there be a way to make it happen? Maybe I could deploy it inside Tomcat... Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
