Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [SPY NEWS] 9/11 questions still smoldering

[Gritzle70]

Notice the brief mention about flight AA77; later on
there is also brief mention of controlled demolition. 

The rest of the lengthy article is a list of all the
experts or well known people who have stated that
the government is complicit.  We are to assume that
they have so stated this based on the assumptions that
Boeings were hijacked and the WTC was destroyed by CD.

No wonder the perps are laughing and slapping each
other on the backs about the success of their messy
911 psyops.  

Since even the 911 truthlings fell for this rather
crude psyops, imagine how sophisticated the new ops
will be.

--- muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It would have been illegal for AA77 out of Dulles
 9/11/2001 to land
 without radio or altitude transponder, unless it had
 a fighter escort.
 There is an instance of dereliction of duty that
 will live in infamy,
 in the pedophile database.
 
 Therefore an FAA flight controller could not have
 abandoned that dot
 on his or her screen. To abandon AA77 without
 Presidential orders, not
 vice-presidential weasel words, would have been
 unthinkable for the
 responsible FAA flight controller. And the same
 screen was available
 to FAA flight controllers at Andrews AFB, whose
 Potomac Valley FAA
 TRACON screens look the same as those at Dulles,
 BWI, and National
 airports, because they are the same. FAA Andrews AFB
 Potomac Valley
 TRACON flight controllers are on record in
 mainstream news as having
 taken over all FAA flight control at National when
 the tower at
 National went out years before 911. Flight
 controllers at Andrews are
 fully FAA flight controllers and looking at the same
 representation of
 the same data package distributed by the same
 network to all FAA
 flight controllers in the FAA's Potomac Valley
 TRACON. You might have
 heard different, but Andrews AFB is FAA flight
 control, no disconnect,
 literally, no disconnect to connect by way of NORAD
 or special
 invitation from Dick Cheney.
 
 Ironically, the guts of the Potomac Valley TRACON
 are currently housed
 at the old Electronic Warfare Center at Vint Hill,
 Virginia(near
 Gainesville on the map), which in a further test of
 your gullibility
 is not even near ANY airport. The radars assembled
 feeding into that
 network are scattered over an area including all of
 those
 airports(Dulles, BWI, National, Andrews), and MANY
 other radar sites
 miles beyond those airports. A vast array of radars
 feed into the
 Potomac Valley TRACON, which then relays the same
 digital data package
 to FAA flight controllers at Andrews AFB, Dulles,
 National, and BWI.
 Forget NORAD, learn TRACON.
 
 It was unthinkable, if you remember that word from
 the
 neuro-linguistic neutralization of that same word by
 the high flying
 shootdown unthinkable non sequitur, unthinkable,
 not to mention
 highly illegal and certain to instantly get a flight
 controller fired,
 which would then be the least of his worries in
 eternal infamy among
 flight controllers and pilots, unthinkable for the
 Dulles flight
 controller to abandon AA77, knowing that it would be
 illegal for AA77
 to land on a 10,000 foot runway, or anywhere but a
 10,000 foot runway,
 unless it had a fighter escort. The Dulles flight
 controller
 abandoning AA77 was what was unthinkable, not
 following standard
 operating procedure and giving AA77 a fighter escort
 because it was
 required to land immediately(but only if it had a
 fighter escort).
 Both the flight controller and the AA77 pilot would
 lose their jobs,
 at a bare minimum of unthinkable consequences, if
 the Dulles flight
 controller abandoned the pilot to an impossible
 requirement to land
 immediately combined with the illegality of landing
 without a fighter
 escort.
 
 That's a given. Then you had Porter Goss having
 breakfast in DC with
 General Mahmud Ahmed, commander of 911 mastermind
 KSM and 911 moneyman
 Omar. What did the 911 Commission say Porter ate for
 breakfast?
 
 The notion of a high-G...fighter style
 maneuver...270 degree
 turn...high speed stall by  AA77 at the Pentagon
 9/11/2001 began with
 Harry Gold, a civilian contractor at the Pentagon
 who spoke on local
 TV, EyeWitness News, channel 9 CBS affiliate,
 anchored by Mike Buck
 Buchanan and Andrea (?). Harry Gold did not say that
 he saw see any
 turn, not a hint of a beginning of any turn, but he
 was
 mis-understood, perhaps deliberately. Details
 follow, but first...
 
 The notion of a small plane hitting the Pentagon
 began with USAF
 propaganda officer Lt Col Art Holbo on the same
 local TV news show.
 After the FBI had confiscated local area security
 videos that would
 have resolved the 911 Pentagon Magic Bullet issue,
 notably the
 Sheraton Hotel and Citgo gas station videos, the
 government's Magic
 Bullet propaganda was bolstered by the Pentagon
 security camera
 forgery, which did not show any plane. All it showed
 clearly was many
 artifacts of forgery, which you can easily find on
 the internet.
 
 Holbo was heard 

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [SPY NEWS] 9/11 questions still smoldering

[Gritzle70]

Very interesting.  You edited out the entire my part
of my post about where I stated that no planes hit the
WTC.  Indeed, no planes were used during the entire
911 psyops.

The media inserted CGI's (computer graphic images)into
the footage of the 2nd hit.  So the media was not only
complicit, but an accessory to mass murder.

You also edited out my part about how the WTC was
destroyed by an exotic weapon -- a directed energy
beam weapon -- probably an EM type.  It turned the WTC
to dust so there was no collapse; the dust debris blew
away with the wind.

After you edited out the major part of my post, you
left the remaining in tact so that what my message
says makes no sense.

I sent the message directly to you but you forwarded
it to CIA-drugs.

Just goes to show me that you are on the perps' side
as well.

You should stick to reporting on drugs where you do
some good work and leave the 911 psyops alone;  isn't
it off topic?


--- Gritzle70 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Notice the brief mention about flight AA77; later on
 there is also brief mention of controlled
 demolition. 
 
 The rest of the lengthy article is a list of all the
 experts or well known people who have stated that
 the government is complicit.  We are to assume that
 they have so stated this based on the assumptions
 that
 Boeings were hijacked and the WTC was destroyed by
 CD.
 
 No wonder the perps are laughing and slapping each
 other on the backs about the success of their messy
 911 psyops.  
 
 Since even the 911 truthlings fell for this rather
 crude psyops, imagine how sophisticated the new ops
 will be.
 
 --- muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It would have been illegal for AA77 out of Dulles
  9/11/2001 to land
  without radio or altitude transponder, unless it
 had
  a fighter escort.
  There is an instance of dereliction of duty that
  will live in infamy,
  in the pedophile database.
  
  Therefore an FAA flight controller could not have
  abandoned that dot
  on his or her screen. To abandon AA77 without
  Presidential orders, not
  vice-presidential weasel words, would have been
  unthinkable for the
  responsible FAA flight controller. And the same
  screen was available
  to FAA flight controllers at Andrews AFB, whose
  Potomac Valley FAA
  TRACON screens look the same as those at Dulles,
  BWI, and National
  airports, because they are the same. FAA Andrews
 AFB
  Potomac Valley
  TRACON flight controllers are on record in
  mainstream news as having
  taken over all FAA flight control at National when
  the tower at
  National went out years before 911. Flight
  controllers at Andrews are
  fully FAA flight controllers and looking at the
 same
  representation of
  the same data package distributed by the same
  network to all FAA
  flight controllers in the FAA's Potomac Valley
  TRACON. You might have
  heard different, but Andrews AFB is FAA flight
  control, no disconnect,
  literally, no disconnect to connect by way of
 NORAD
  or special
  invitation from Dick Cheney.
  
  Ironically, the guts of the Potomac Valley TRACON
  are currently housed
  at the old Electronic Warfare Center at Vint Hill,
  Virginia(near
  Gainesville on the map), which in a further test
 of
  your gullibility
  is not even near ANY airport. The radars assembled
  feeding into that
  network are scattered over an area including all
 of
  those
  airports(Dulles, BWI, National, Andrews), and MANY
  other radar sites
  miles beyond those airports. A vast array of
 radars
  feed into the
  Potomac Valley TRACON, which then relays the same
  digital data package
  to FAA flight controllers at Andrews AFB, Dulles,
  National, and BWI.
  Forget NORAD, learn TRACON.
  
  It was unthinkable, if you remember that word
 from
  the
  neuro-linguistic neutralization of that same word
 by
  the high flying
  shootdown unthinkable non sequitur,
 unthinkable,
  not to mention
  highly illegal and certain to instantly get a
 flight
  controller fired,
  which would then be the least of his worries in
  eternal infamy among
  flight controllers and pilots, unthinkable for
 the
  Dulles flight
  controller to abandon AA77, knowing that it would
 be
  illegal for AA77
  to land on a 10,000 foot runway, or anywhere but a
  10,000 foot runway,
  unless it had a fighter escort. The Dulles flight
  controller
  abandoning AA77 was what was unthinkable, not
  following standard
  operating procedure and giving AA77 a fighter
 escort
  because it was
  required to land immediately(but only if it had a
  fighter escort).
  Both the flight controller and the AA77 pilot
 would
  lose their jobs,
  at a bare minimum of unthinkable consequences,
 if
  the Dulles flight
  controller abandoned the pilot to an impossible
  requirement to land
  immediately combined with the illegality of
 landing
  without a fighter
  escort.
  
  That's a given. Then you had Porter Goss having
  breakfast in DC with
  General Mahmud Ahmed, commander of 911 mastermind
  KSM and 911

Re: [cia-drugs] The Zero Files: Shadowy realms of mind control and paranoia, all in the hands of the FBI

[Gritzle70]

Sounds as if the Project Monarch mind controlled people are writing to their 
handlers in the FBI. 

norgesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 THE ZERO  FILES 
 Shadowy realms of mind control and paranoia, all in the hands of the  FBI 

- Matthew B.  Stannard, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, November 30, 2003 
 What I am about to write will sound like a total paranoid fantasy, I had even  
come to believe that myself and was about to take steps to get an evaluation 
for  myself as I was frightened I was going mad. ... I ask you to help in any 
way you  can.  
-- From the FBI's Zero Files, 11/19/96-- -- --.  
They are, in a way, the real-world equivalent of television's X-Files, the  
fictional secret collection of FBI cases involving alien abductions and grand  
conspiracies that kept legions of fans entertained for nearly a decade.  
But while Fox Mulder and Dana Scully have long since retired to the compost  
bin of syndication, the FBI's Zero Files thrive in obscurity -- remaining, in  
their own way, very real.  
They exist on nondescript shelves deep in the archives of FBI offices in San  
Francisco and across the nation, within thick file folders tucked anonymously  
among thousands of manila clones. And until now, when The Chronicle received  
permission to examine the folders, the Zero Files had never been opened to  
public review.  
Most of the folders in the FBI archives contain the details of closed  homicide 
cases and long-solved bank robberies, rarely seen as they await  judgment day 
or the office shredder. But the Zero Files, each marked with a case  number 
containing the digit 0 in its heart, are different -- very different.  
They are letters, faxes, e-mails and photographs, diagrams and maps, legal  
papers and photocopies. Some are a single scrap of scribbled paper, others 
reams  of carefully typed explanation, replete with references and footnotes. 
Some were  forwarded to the FBI by courts, police officers or businesses; most 
were  submitted to the bureau by the authors themselves.  
Each describes a unique delusion, a single person's fantasy committed to  paper 
and recorded for posterity. Conspiracy theories. Claims of paranormal  
abilities. Celebrity fantasies. To flip through the Zero Files is to peer into 
a  palimpsest of lunacy, a travelogue of realms where the residents wish very 
much  to leave.-- -- --  
I had a visit yesterday from two gentlemen who said they were from the SECRET  
SERVICE! They were looking for the HAMBURGLAR who said the PRESIDENT might 
choke  on a CHEESEBURGER on AIR FORCE ONE! No wonder they can't balance a 
TRILLION  DOLLAR BUDGET in DC, they have to check out all the MCDONALDS in 
AMERICA for the  DEADLY CHEESEBURGER that might KILL the PRESIDENT! This is not 
a JOKE!  
-- From the Zero Files, 8/15/1995-- -- --  
Almost anything can be a Zero File -- the phrase simply refers to items  
received by the FBI that are non-actionable, and can include anything from  
cases handed off to local police to attaboys from other agencies.  
But when agents refer to the Zero Files amongst themselves, and joke about  
whose turn it is to feed the captive alien, they are almost always referring to 
 a special category of report -- one that almost defies further description.-- 
--  --  
Recently, before these terrorist acts, I made a usual request that you  
investigate the Necronomicon. I do not know if you took me seriously, as I  
realize you are still enslaved by the physical realm and refuse to open your  
mind to this spiritual war that is clearly discussed in Revelations, but in 
case  you did, I wanted to add a little information.  
-- From the Zero Files, 10/22/2001-- -- --  
Nobody within the bureau has an exact count of how many Zero Files the FBI  has 
stashed away across the nation, but the agency's San Francisco office,  
a midsize bureau, has a database listing 17,000 items stretching back to the  
1970s.  
And the files demand far more from the FBI than mere shelf space. Each Zero  
File item landed there only after passing across the desk of at least one agent 
 who spent time making sure it did not relate to any active investigation,  
represent a threat or offer any avenues for future investigation.  
A piece of paper was generated for each one of these, and somebody had to  
review it, said FBI special agent Pete LeFranchise.  
Most agents come to know repeat writers -- frequent fliers -- after a few  
shifts on the duty desk. A glance through the files shows that some agents 
found  themselves acting as counselors of last resort.  
It's almost like being a social worker when you're on the desk, LeFranchise  
said. There's probably been at least three or four times . . . where I've just 
 had to say, 'Look, sir, you need to seek clinical or psychiatric help.' -- -- 
 --  
Jensen called resident agency with nonspecific complaints about surveillance  
and mind control. . . . Someone was communicating with him via 

Re: [catapult] Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Biggest US Oil Discovery Since Prudhoe Bay

[Gritzle70]

How "conicidental" that Mike Ruppert also left for Venezuela for "patriotic" reasons.Gritzle70 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The oil companies actually put it in contracts with exploration scientists that they can't tell people they and the vast majority of their peers don't believe it's fossil fuel.That says it all, doesn't it? I can see the scam unfolding now. Noted "researchers" and "geologists" have "discovered" vast new oil reserves in the Gulf of Mexico (close to Cuba and pre-empting
 Venezuela). "Advanced new technologies" have allowed scientists to develop systems (certainly at great cost to be born by the consumer) which will provide a type of fuel entirely free of pollutants, etc, etc.And the game starts all over again.Only they remain in control of all (real) free-energy systems (EM?) which will be used for profit in mind control and other lethal weapons.These "discoveries are "coincidentally" timed to "pre-empt" Venezuela's oil resources and focus on evil Cuba as the new "hemispheric threat". All this just  happens to fall on the 5th anniversary of 9/11 and an upcoming election.Surely we need a "savior" and why not Big Oil?muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: The timing pre-empts the news that Venezuela has
 surpassed Saudi Arabia as world's biggest oil source. Rev. Pat Robertson really needed this discovery.  And it's in sedimentary rock, so we can continue to believe in fossil fuel, despite Swedish and Canadian and Russian and Vietnamese oil and gas production from basement rock.  Maybe the Cubans  were planning to have China drill in basement rock.  The oil companies actually put it in contracts with exploration scientists that they can't tell people they and the vast majority of their peers don't believe it's fossil fuel.  -Bob  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com, "mark urban" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   between what is in the caribbean and alaska, the usa does not need an  ounce of foreign oil to meet its needs. so much geopolitics and  societal control is mixed up in the oil business that it just sickens  me. prudhoe
 bay is nothing compared to kruparak and gull island.   do you really think the oil companies just out of the blue discovered  so much oil? no way! they've been sitting on this for years.   the politics at play is so pathetic that a child can see through it,  yet we just keep lapping  this shit up.  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com, "muckblit" muckblit@ wrote: another article http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-  dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR200609\   0500275_pf.html U.S. Oil Reserves Get a Big Boost   Chevron-Led Team Discovers Billions of Barrels in Gulf of Mexico's  Deep   Water By Steven Mufson  
 Washington Post Staff Writer   Wednesday, September 6, 2006; D01   An oil discovery by Chevron Corp. has bolstered prospects that  petroleum   companies will be able to tap giant reserves that lie far beneath  the   deep waters of the Gulf of  Mexico. Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results   from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the  oil   industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels,  and   perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area   known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to   U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate  could   boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent. "This looks to be
 the biggest discovery in the United States in a   generation, really since the discovery of Prudhoe Bay 38 years ago,"   said Daniel Yergin, chairman of the consulting firm Cambridge Energy   Research Associates Inc. "There's been a lot of anticipation about   what's called the Wilcox  formation, and this is the validation of  the   theory and of the technology," he said, using another name for the  area   of the Gulf. Cambridge Energy forecasts that the deep-water area of the Gulf of   Mexico will produce 800,000 barrels of oil a day within seven years  and   account for 11 percent of U.S. oil production. That would not solve  the   world's energy problem or eliminate U.S. reliance on oil imports,  but it   would help stabilize U.S. oil production, which has been declining, 
 and   cover some of the world's rising demand for petroleum. Prudhoe Bay,  in   northern Alaska, produced about 1.5 million barrels a day at its  peak. Although oil companies have been exploring the deep-water area of  the   Gulf of Mexico for the  past five years, there have not been any  previous   production tests from the older tertiary trend, which is made  largely of   Eocene era sediments more than 35 million years old. Chevron and its   partners said the test showed that the oil deposits in the older  rock   formations were technologically and economically viable. "The big question for everybody has been whether these rocks would  flow   and at what rates," said Paul Siegele, 

Re: [cia-drugs] Al-Zarqawi's cell phone reportedly yields surprises

[Gritzle70]

More likely he had a list of contacts in the IDF and the CIAVigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had the phone numbers of senior Iraqi  officials stored in his cell phone, according to an Iraqi  legislator.  http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/03/zarqawi.ap/index.html  Al-Zarqawi's cell phone reportedly yields  surprises Monday, July 3, 2006; Posted: 7:38 a.m. EDT (11:38 GMT)   BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had the  phone numbers of senior Iraqi officials stored in his cell phone, according to  an Iraqi legislator. Waiel Abdul-Latif, a member of former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's party,  said Monday that authorities found the numbers after al-Zarqawi, leader of al  Qaeda in Iraq, was killed in a U.S. air strike on June 7. Abdul-Latif did not give names of the officials. But he said they included  ministry
 employees and members of parliament. He called for an investigation, saying Iraqis "cannot have one hand with the  government and another with the terrorists." Meanwhile, al-Zarqawi's wife told an Italian newspaper that al Qaeda leaders  sold him out to the United States in exchange for a promise to let up in the  search for Osama bin Laden. The woman, identified by La Repubblica as al-Zarqawi's first wife, said al  Qaeda's top leadership reached a deal with U.S. intelligence because al Zarqawi  had become too powerful.  She claimed Sunni tribes and Jordanian secret services mediated the deal. "My husband has been sold to the Americans," the woman said in an interview  published Sunday. "He had become too powerful, too troublesome." She was identified only as "Um Mohammed," which means "mother of Mohammed"  and would be a nickname, not her full name.  The Rome-based newspaper said the interview
 was conducted in Geneva and  described her as Jordanian and about 40 years old. In Jordan, Al-Zarqawi's eldest brother, Sayel al-Khalayleh, said the family  had not been aware of the woman's whereabouts for about two years. Iraq's national security adviser said Sunday that al-Zarqawi had been buried  in a "secret location" in Baghdad despite his family's demand that the body be  returned to his native Jordan. Mouwafak al-Rubaie would not say when the Jordanian-born militant was buried,  or give any specifics on the location of the grave. The U.S. military confirmed the burial but declined to give details. "The remains of Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi were turned over to the appropriate  government of Iraq officials and buried in accordance with Muslim customs and  traditions," the military said in an e-mailed statement. "Anything further than  that would be addressed by the Iraqi government." Al-Zarqawi's brother
 demanded that his body be transferred to Jordan, and  accused the United States of lying. "Bush took his body to the United States," al-Khalayleh told The Associated  Press in a telephone interview from his home in the Jordanian city of Zarqa. "Even if he is buried in Iraq, we will continue to ask for the body to be  transferred and buried in Jordan," he said. "He should be buried in his own  country."  Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may  not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
   
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[cia-drugs] Re: Russian diplomats die in Iraq: murder or execution?

[gritzle70]

Well, to me it's a US/Israel black covert ops against the Russians 
to make it appear as if it's the Iraqis.

It's also an attempt to fool the Russian people into believing that 
Muslims and Islam are the enemy; in other words, get on board with 
the US/Israel/UK.  The real enemy is Islam (Iran), not the US.

No one in the Russian government is taking steps because, no doubt, 
Russian elitists at the top levels of the government are in league 
with Bush/Israel. The NWO elitists world wide share the same agenda

And China just sits back and smiles




--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20060630/50725145.html
 
   Russian diplomats die in Iraq: murder or execution? 
   15:08 | 30/ 06/ 2006 
  
  
 
 
 MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Boris Kaimakov) - We 
are talking in different idioms-we and they. We think we are a 
civilized community. 
 
 They think our civilization is a sworn enemy of their ideals and 
world-views, even of their sheer survival. By them, I mean 
everyone who is ready to die for his ideals and take with him to the 
other world as many innocent lives as he can. They may be Chechen 
and other mojaheddin, religious extremists or Basque separatists. 
Skin color, facial features and religion do not matter. What matters 
are the means they use to get their ends. As they see it, killing 
defenseless hostages is the shortest cut to their goal. We see it as 
murder, they as lawful execution. 
 
 We Russians saw our kidnapped diplomats were doomed the instant 
the criminals-I don't see any other name for them-advanced their 
demands. Russia's Foreign Ministry was certainly the wrong partner 
for talks on such terms. Now, who would make the right partner in 
the situation? The answer lies in the drama of Budyonnovsk, a small 
town in the steppe of European Russia's south, where Shamil 
Basayev's terrorist gang seized a maternity hospital several years 
ago. Boris Yeltsin, then Russian president, was in hospital having 
therapy, so Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin made chief negotiator 
in the hostage crisis-and went down in history with, What do you 
want, Basayev?-the words that opened his talks to rescue the 
patients and doctors. 
 
 Now, it took not the Kremlin alone, nor the State Duma, the 
Foreign Ministry or the Cabinet but the entire nation to rescue the 
diplomats. Is this remark empty talk? The answer is yes and no 
at the same time. No one has moved a finger to save four lives. All 
looked with idle curiosity at a talking head on their television 
screens as it tried hard to make the impression of knowing something 
too secret to make public. In fact, he did not know anything at all. 
He was not even sure whether the diplomats were alive at the time. 
Now, the four deaths delivered Russia's Foreign Ministry a double 
blow-its pain comes not only from losing colleagues but from the 
haunting awareness of its own helplessness in the tragedy. 
 
 We all live in glass houses today. The Iraqi bloodshed proves 
that. From time to time, stones are thrown from the most unexpected 
sides. We can come down on the United States to our heart's content 
for headlong action in Iraq, and America can pay back with attacks 
on Russian policies in the North Caucasus. Russia will never give up 
those policies as they reflect our concept of our vital interests. 
Likewise, the U.S. is sure it is working for its own interests in 
the Middle East. 
 
 A conclusion from it all suggests itself. Politicians and 
professional demagogues may pile as many accusations on each other 
as they like-but Russian and U.S. secret services have to join hands 
as we are strategic partners, whether we like it or not. 
 
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Re: [cia-drugs] Russian arms arrive in Venezuela

[Gritzle70]

I suspect that when the article says "Columbia", it really means that Columbian drug lords are worried about disruptions to their businessVigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  http://www.larouchepub.com/radio/archive_2006.htmlRussian arms arrive in Venezuela  
   By Greg Morsbach BBC News, Caracas  Moves by Mr Chavez to boost his armed forces have worried the USVenezuela has received its first delivery of tens of thousands of Russian assault rifles.   It is the first batch out of a total of 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles which Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has ordered from Moscow.   Venezuela's military is undergoing a profound transformation, with a
 major recruitment drive and new technology.   The move is likely to worry the US, which regards Mr Chavez as a destabilising influence in the region.   Most defence experts agree that President Chavez needs to overhaul his outdated military hardware.   But the United States and Venezuela's neighbour Colombia regard the arrival of 33,000 Kalashnikov rifles as further proof that Mr Chavez is seeking to throw his weight around in the region.   The Russian-built AK103 rifles come complete with more than half a million rounds of ammunition, state-of-the-art night vision scopes and bayonets.   Another 70,000 rifles are expected to arrive before the end of the year.   But what worries Washington more are Venezuela's plans to build a factory here to assemble and export these Kalashnikov rifles along with bullets.   Mr Chavez's administration is now in talks with the Russian manufacturer which holds the licence to make the guns.  
 The US, which recently ordered a complete ban on arms sales to Venezuela, has accused of President Chavez of trying to destabilise Latin America.   But Venezuela insists it has a right to buy arms for defensive purposes.   President Chavez has repeatedly warned that the Bush administration was planning to invade Venezuela to get its hands on the country's oil resources.  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 





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Re: [cia-drugs] Intelligence Brief: Chile

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Just like they created zionism, zionist christians and islamacists. -- all bogus enemies created by the elites so they can pit each against the other while they work behind the scenes to make billions.It's not that I don't believe in Armageddon or the "End of Times" but it appears that it is humans who are engineering it with their WMD, weaponized weather, planned depopulation.And they certainly be guided by unseen forces of Good or Evil. And I certain believe in trying to live by the principals as Jesus taught them (whether he be a real or mythological personality or whether he speaks as the archetype of Good or as a metaphysical entity. But Mohamed speaks the same message; and Buddhism teaches a different path to enlightenment (salvation?).I am highly suspicious if someone tells me I can save myself by paying $55 and reading his book.All I
 care about is that you work for the good of all, which you are trying to do; So I have no problem with your beliefs and believe that you follow them in all good faith.I also believe we should be taking action to form survival communities where we are energy sufficient, grow our our own food.Arlene Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Thanks for clarifying the two. I have always wondered about the difference.  Having said that, however, communism was established by the Illuminati. I  read it again from a Christian who does know the Bible extremely well.His name is Tom Demeter, and he has a Web site too. It's http://www.repenttolive.com  Maybe I
 should forward what he just sent to me today or yesterday in which it is stated  again, and why he supports my work so much.Interestingly, a woman who began a boycott of a couple of Israeli universities stated to   me that she calls herself a socialist because of the bad image that communism has. Seems  to me that she is the one who is confused, doncha think?Peace,Arlene Johnson  Publisher/Author  http://www.truedemocracy.net-Original Message- From: Vanessa Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Dec 22, 2005 3:32 PM To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Intelligence Brief: Chile --- Arlene Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just today, I was reading Myron Fagan's article to
 a friend in which Myron stated definitively that communism, i.e. socialism was established to provide the fascists an enemy to fight.Arlene,I'm afraid you've got a little confusion here-Communism is a form of ECONOMY. Socialism is a form ofPOLITICS. They were put together once, but are notdependent on each other NOR are they related inorigin.As for establishing communism, remember that it isestablished in the Bible, Acts 2:44- where the FIRSTtrue communism appears, in its economics version. IFBush wants to pass himself off as a Christian, hebetter stop warfare and start communism.Socialism is more of a word play, I think, which meansyou live in a Society and cannot be totallyindependent of it.IN any case, decent people can live just fine underany system, and don't need 'law and order'- that wasset up for the perverted and corrupt.AS FOR MYSELF, I
 believe that chaos theory rules (itis the most advanced mathematics, and you can NEVERlose in a casino if you can handle it)- and that onlyGod can set up order. Humans are ruled by a bunch ofchemicals, not by written laws. THAT is how I keepmyself safe from ANY criminal- I never wear perfume,so that my natural non-fear pheromones can tell theirbrains to stay away. Don't think that chaos, or anarchy, are bad- in fact,when your brain and mine seem to be firing wildly andchaotic messages, we work fine. When my brain becomestotally orderly, and neurons march like disciplinedsoldiers, THAT is called a grand-mal seizure- and itcan kill me. And this epilepsy, the most chaoticillness, also produces the great geniuses and most whohave changed the world had some form of it.Vanessa Di Domenico __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best
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Re: [cia-drugs] The Empire Strikes Back

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Shades of New Orleans after Katrina:  The couple, with the help of the Southern Poverty Law Center, sued Nethercott. And a judge recently awarded the couple Nethercott's 70-acre ranch near Douglas, Texas.   "What they did is they waited until I was in jail," Nethercott said. "And then they sued me with a default judgment. I’m in jail, I couldn’t show up for court." norgesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Friday, December 02, 2005  The Empire Strikes Back 
 This comes courtesy of Cal S. Anyone who becomes a threat to the Powers-That-Be or their effort to dissolve the borders of this country by taking direct action and making headway is now clearly a target. Note the involvement of the superwealthy "Southern Poverty Law Center."   Man fighting for closed borders loses battle  08:55 PM Mountain Standard Time on Wednesday, November 30, 2005  By Mike Watkiss / 3TV reporterCasey Nethercott, 38, founded the
 anti-immigration group, Ranch Rescue. "If I had my way, I’d put a concrete wall down the border, put gun powder on it and say, 'America is closed,'" Nethercott said. Some people call Nethercott an American hero, a patriot wronged by the country that he loves. "He’s a hero. My son is a good man," said Nethercott's mother, Margaret. "He would never, ever hurt anyone." "I can’t help that I’m 250 pounds," Nethercott said. "I can’t help the way my eyes look. Or that I lift weights. But I’m not a criminal." Nethercott sits today in a Texas prison because there are others who say he is a criminal. A law-breaking vigilante. "[The government] is lying to you," Nethercott said. "The borders are wide open and, damn it, something is going to happen." Nethercott, a one-time bounty hunter, has made it his business to
 try to curb illegal immigration by starting an armed militia group on his 70-acre ranch near Douglas, Texas. He would tell reporters that he and men were willing to step in where the government had failed. He said he'd use machine guns to monitor the border. In early 2003, Nethercott, and a couple of men from Ranch Rescue, detained and allegedly abused two illegal immigrants. Nethercott allegedly detained the immigrants, Fatima Leiva and Edwin Mancia, both Salvadorans, as they were crossing the border near Hebbronville, Texas. "The one guy was dehydrated so I gave him water," Nethercott said. I gave his girlfriend some power bars and it was two miles from the end of the property so we drove 'em off the property." But the couple says Nethercott threatened them both and pistol-whipped Mancia. "I never even had a gun with me that
 night. They’re absolutely lying about it," Nethercott said. Nethercott was charged with assault and while Texas jury deadlocked on that charge, Nethercott, who is a convicted felon, was found guilty of possessing a weapon and thrown into prison. The couple, with the help of the Southern Poverty Law Center, sued Nethercott. And a judge recently awarded the couple Nethercott's 70-acre ranch near Douglas, Texas. "What they did is they waited until I was in jail," Nethercott said. "And then they sued me with a default judgment. I’m in jail, I couldn’t show up for court." Nethercott claims that all he did was detain the couple until border agents could arrive. He says that when agents didn’t show, the immigrants were released. "If he was not found guilty of that, how could they take his ranch? We work so hard for this country and
 they’re giving it away to anybody who wants to come in," Margaret said. "America right now is more concerned about their SUVs and their cell phones," Nethercott said. "They aren't watching their country being eroded out from under them." Fatima Leiva and Edwin Mancia refused an interview for this story. Nethercott is serving 5 years on the weapons violation.   http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/KTVKLNews20051130.2794ad9d.htmlhttp://itshappeninghere.blogspot.com/2005/12/empire-strikes-backhtml  
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Fwd: [cia-drugs] In Washington, China has gotten almost too big to criticize

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Ah, think of the beauty of it!  It took billions of
dollars and a Cold War to finally turn the Chinese
(ex) Communists into free market capitalist wheelers
and dealers.  And the Dragon has now turned around and
bitten Uncle Sam in his ass.

Be careful of the children you bear, if you do not
teach them good morals or proper manners!  How
sharper than a serpent's truth is the thankless
child.

Blow back once again!

 From: Vigilius Haufniensis
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 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:10:37 -0700
 Subject: [cia-drugs] In Washington, China has gotten
 almost too big to criticize
 
 In Washington, China has gotten almost too big to
 criticize
 By Edmund L. Andrews
 The New York Times
 Friday, June 24, 2005
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/24/business/worldbusiness/24trade.html
 
 WASHINGTON, June 23 -- For the Bush administration
 and even for many 
 members of Congress, China has become almost too big
 to bash.
 
 A day after one of China's state-controlled oil
 companies made an 
 unsolicited $18.5 billion bid for Unocal, a
 California oil and gas 
 company with extensive fields in Asia,
 administration officials and 
 many lawmakers were almost tongue-tied about the
 implications.
 
 Treasury Secretary John W. Snow, asked whether he
 would lead a 
 national security review of the deal, hesitantly
 told members of the 
 Senate Finance Committee that the question was
 hypothetical 
 because the transaction has yet to happen.
 
 Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve,
 said virtually 
 nothing about the deal. But he used some of his
 bluntest language 
 ever to warn lawmakers against imposing tariffs on
 China as a way to 
 pressure it over its exchange rate policies.
 
 For months, many lawmakers in both parties have
 become almost 
 frantic about China's soaring trade surplus and its
 impact on 
 American manufacturers. Anxiety is so high that
 Republican lawmakers 
 from industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania
 are loath to vote 
 for anything that sounds like a free-trade
 agreement.
 
 But anxiety is at least as great about a disruption
 of American 
 business ties to China. 
 
 I think there is a reluctance to confront China,
 said Rep. Phil 
 English, a Republican from Pennsylvania and the
 leader of the 
 congressional steel caucus. The problem is that
 many companies are 
 depending on Chinese inputs and on imported goods to
 sell at 
 retailers. 
 
 China is also a leading creditor of the United
 States; it acquired 
 more than $200 billion of Treasury securities over
 the last year.
 
 Moreover, China is already home to a growing number
 of American-
 owned factories, many of them exporting to the
 United States, and a 
 large number of factories that are suppliers to
 American companies.
 
 For the last two years, the Bush administration has
 struggled to 
 balance competing economic goals. It wants to
 persuade China to let 
 its currency rise in value, which would make Chinese
 imports more 
 expensive in dollar terms, even as it works to fend
 off proposals 
 from Congress to impose high tariffs if China
 refuses to change its 
 policies.
 
 On Thursday, Mr. Snow argued that it would be
 dangerous to 
 impose punitive actions on China. Not only would
 it be a mistake 
 to threaten China with tariffs if it refuses to let
 its currency 
 float, he said, but it would also be a mistake to
 subject China to 
 countervailing duties in cases where it illegally
 subsidizes exports.
 
 Acting on any of the punitive legislative proposals
 before Congress 
 now would be counterproductive, Mr. Snow told
 lawmakers.
 
 Mr. Greenspan, testifying at the same hearing, said
 it was a major 
 mistake to think that American jobs would be
 increased even if China 
 did change its currency policies.
 
 I am aware of no credible evidence that supports
 such a 
 conclusion, Mr. Greenspan said. Tariffs on Chinese
 imports would 
 protect few, if any American jobs, he continued,
 and 
 would materially lower our standard of living.
 
 But the political debate about China is lagging
 behind events on the 
 ground. The $18 billion bid for Unocal by the China
 National 
 Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC), China's third-largest
 oil company, was 
 merely the latest and by far the biggest move by a
 Chinese company 
 to buy a formidable American company.
 
 The move represents an evolution for China from
 being a major 
 exporter, using its earnings to acquire Treasury
 securities, to 
 becoming a significant foreign investor in hard
 assets as well. 
 
 Administration officials made it clear Thursday that
 a deal with 
 Unocal would almost certainly be subjected to an
 interagency review 
 over its implications for national security. 
 
 But Mr. Snow was extremely hesitant when asked about
 it by Sen. Ron 
 Wyden, Democrat of Oregon. 
 
 It's hypothetical at this point, because we don't
 have a 
 transaction, Mr. Snow said, adding that a foreign
 company taking 
 over a company in a potentially sensitive