[c-nsp] BGP routes: 207k + 157k = 238k ???...

2008-01-24 Thread Vincent De Keyzer
Hi guys,

there is something I can't quite figure out with BGP.

Let a bi-homed AS with only two BGP speakers (each of them has one eBGP 
session with a different upstream, they speak iBGP together).

Router 1 receives 238k routes from provider A; so does router 2 from 
provider B.

When looking at iBGP, it can be seen that router 1 sends 207k routes to 
router 2, while router 2 sends only 157k routes to router 1.

I'm surprised by these numbers: the sum of routes from 1 to 2 plus 
routes from 2 to 1 not only does not equal 238k, but is even greater 
than 238k (I would have understood it was smaller).

What does these numbers mean?...

Vincent
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[c-nsp] RES: Key-chain and MD5 authentication for IS-IS

2008-01-24 Thread Leonardo Gama Souza
Great. Helped a lot.

Thanks.
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De: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2008 04:03
Para: Leonardo Gama Souza; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Assunto: RE: [c-nsp] Key-chain and MD5 authentication for IS-IS

Leonardo Gama Souza  wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:10 PM:

 Hello everybody,
 
 
 
 Do you know whether I have to update the key chain string after an
 IOS upgrade? 
 
 Let´s fancy from 12.2S to 12.0S...
 
 I'm only using it for IS-IS instance authentication.
 
 
 Have anyone ever run into this situation?

You shouldn't need to update the keys, but I've seen cases where this was 
required after an upgrade (just re-entering the same key helped). I recall 
there was a bug somewhere in 12.2S where this was required for all keys (IIRC)..

oli
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[c-nsp] need clarification..

2008-01-24 Thread bbe bie
hi...what is the different between fastEthernet3/0/0
with fastEthernet0/3. is it same.??im still confuse..
looking forward to hear from u..thanks


  

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Re: [c-nsp] need clarification..

2008-01-24 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
A simple google search will get you back with millions :) below mentioned
link is one of them

http://www.petri.co.il/csc_how_router_interfaces_get_their_names_on_cisco_ro
uters.htm


Regards,
Masood Ahmad Shah


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hi...what is the different between fastEthernet3/0/0
with fastEthernet0/3. is it same.??im still confuse..
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[c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Brad Beck


Hi,

I've got a 2811 that crashed with a bus error within a few hours of enabling 
Netflow export.  I haven't opened a TAC case yet, but my curiousity was aroused 
by the address at which the error occured 0xDEADBEF3.  This could almost 
be pronounced Dead Beef  

System returned to ROM by bus error at PC 0x41165340, address 0xDEADBEF3 at 
20:33


Show region does not reflect this space as real:

AMHtoSTL#sh region
Region Manager:

  Start End Size(b)  Class  Media  Name
 0x0F80  0x0FFF 8388608  Iomem  R/Wiomem:(uncached_iomem_region)
 0x3F80  0x3FFF 8388608  Iomem  R/Wiomem
 0x4000  0x4F7F   260046848  Local  R/Wmain
 0x4006C38C  0x413319741812  IText  R/Omain:text
 0x4134  0x421C0D3F15207744  IData  R/Wmain:data
 0x421C0D40  0x424D963F 3246336  IBss   R/Wmain:bss
 0x424D9640  0x4F7F   221407680  Local  R/Wmain:heap


Cisco IOS Software, 2800 Software (C2800NM-IPBASE-M), Version 12.3(8)T6, 
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport 
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 29-Dec-04 15:07 by hqluong

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T7, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

a uptime is 16 hours, 25 minutes
System returned to ROM by bus error at PC 0x41165340, address 0xDEADBEF3 at 
20:39:15 UTC Wed Jan 23 2008
System image file is flash:c2800nm-ipbase-mz.123-8.T6.bin

Cisco 2811 (revision 53.51) with 253952K/8192K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID FHK0846U0F1
2 FastEthernet interfaces
1 Serial interface
2 Channelized T1/PRI ports
DRAM configuration is 64 bits wide with parity enabled.
239K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
62592K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102


Any thoughts on this?  Is netflow export on a router passing only ~500Kb/s peak 
typically problematic?

thanks!


Brad Beck
Senior Network Engineer
Meritain Health
300 Corporate Parkway
Amherst, NY 14226
716-319-5837 Direct
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Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Church, Charles
Any particular reason you're running a 12.4T version?  We've got a 2821
running 12.4(16a) doing netflow export, been rock-solid for months. 

Chuck Church
Principal Network Engineer, CCIE #8776
Harris Information Technology Services
EDS Contractor - Navy Marine Corps Intranet (NMCI)
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Subject: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...



Hi,

I've got a 2811 that crashed with a bus error within a few hours of
enabling Netflow export.  I haven't opened a TAC case yet, but my
curiousity was aroused by the address at which the error occured
0xDEADBEF3.  This could almost be pronounced Dead Beef  

System returned to ROM by bus error at PC 0x41165340, address
0xDEADBEF3 at 20:33


Show region does not reflect this space as real:

AMHtoSTL#sh region
Region Manager:

  Start End Size(b)  Class  Media  Name
 0x0F80  0x0FFF 8388608  Iomem  R/W
iomem:(uncached_iomem_region)
 0x3F80  0x3FFF 8388608  Iomem  R/Wiomem
 0x4000  0x4F7F   260046848  Local  R/Wmain
 0x4006C38C  0x413319741812  IText  R/Omain:text
 0x4134  0x421C0D3F15207744  IData  R/Wmain:data
 0x421C0D40  0x424D963F 3246336  IBss   R/Wmain:bss
 0x424D9640  0x4F7F   221407680  Local  R/Wmain:heap


Cisco IOS Software, 2800 Software (C2800NM-IPBASE-M), Version 12.3(8)T6,
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport 
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 29-Dec-04 15:07 by hqluong

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T7, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

a uptime is 16 hours, 25 minutes
System returned to ROM by bus error at PC 0x41165340, address 0xDEADBEF3
at 20:39:15 UTC Wed Jan 23 2008
System image file is flash:c2800nm-ipbase-mz.123-8.T6.bin

Cisco 2811 (revision 53.51) with 253952K/8192K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID FHK0846U0F1
2 FastEthernet interfaces
1 Serial interface
2 Channelized T1/PRI ports
DRAM configuration is 64 bits wide with parity enabled.
239K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
62592K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102


Any thoughts on this?  Is netflow export on a router passing only
~500Kb/s peak typically problematic?

thanks!


Brad Beck
Senior Network Engineer
Meritain Health
300 Corporate Parkway
Amherst, NY 14226
716-319-5837 Direct
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Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Tim Franklin
On Thu, January 24, 2008 1:29 pm, Brad Beck wrote:

 I've got a 2811 that crashed with a bus error within a few hours of
 enabling Netflow export.  I haven't opened a TAC case yet, but my
 curiousity was aroused by the address at which the error occured
 0xDEADBEF3.  This could almost be pronounced Dead Beef

Yes - traditionally it's 0xDEADBEEF, I guess Cisco felt the need to
distinguish between different sides of beef and so dropped an 'E' to add
an index number :)

Seriously, it's an old coder utility / humour combo - if there's memory
that's you shouldn't be using, rather than leaving it full of random
values, you fill it with DEADBEEF.  If the program crashes or gives wrong
answers, and you see DEADBEEF show up, you know it's a problem with
looking at the wrong area of memory rather than some other kind of logic
error.

Why DEADBEEF and not some other 'magic' number is up there with why you
find so many workstations of long-time coders with the MAC of their
Ethernet card re-programmed to be nn:nn:nn:C0:FF:FE...

Regards,
Tim.


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Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 14:04 +, Tim Franklin wrote:
 Yes - traditionally it's 0xDEADBEEF, I guess Cisco felt the need to
 distinguish between different sides of beef and so dropped an 'E' to add
 an index number :)
 
 Seriously, it's an old coder utility / humour combo - if there's memory
 that's you shouldn't be using, rather than leaving it full of random
 values, you fill it with DEADBEEF.  If the program crashes or gives wrong
 answers, and you see DEADBEEF show up, you know it's a problem with
 looking at the wrong area of memory rather than some other kind of logic
 error.

Yup, the Jargon File entry backs this up.
http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/d/DEADBEEF.html

 Why DEADBEEF and not some other 'magic' number is up there with why you
 find so many workstations of long-time coders with the MAC of their
 Ethernet card re-programmed to be nn:nn:nn:C0:FF:FE...

Maybe even with two Es in the end, like 00:0B:AD:C0:FF:EE, right? :-)

Regards,
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Tim Franklin
On Thu, January 24, 2008 2:12 pm, Peter Rathlev wrote:

 Why DEADBEEF and not some other 'magic' number is up there with why you
 find so many workstations of long-time coders with the MAC of their
 Ethernet card re-programmed to be nn:nn:nn:C0:FF:FE...

 Maybe even with two Es in the end, like 00:0B:AD:C0:FF:EE, right? :-)

Yeah, that too.  Clearly I haven't had enough of it yet today...

Regards,
Tim.


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Re: [c-nsp] EzVPN drops packets after first data burst

2008-01-24 Thread Kristofer Sigurdsson
No, doesn't seem to be.  I tried lowering the MTU on the client, nothing
different.

2008/1/23, Frank Bulk - iNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anything to do with packet size?

 Frank

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 Sigurdsson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:42 AM
 To: Cisco NSP
 Subject: [c-nsp] EzVPN drops packets after first data burst

 Hi list,

 I have a Cisco 1841 router, IOS 12.4(12), Adv. IP Services.  I'm using it
 for an EzVPN server where clients can VPN into a VRF which contains a
 local
 network.  Clients can connect and start to use eg. Remote Desktop to a
 computer on the inside network, but as soon as some traffic starts flowing
 (like opening a browser in Remote Desktop), the session hangs and,
 according
 to the show crypto session remote peer detail, no new outbound (from the
 VPN server) packets come and I start seeing dropped inbound packets
 (dec'ed).  Sample output:

 Crypto session current status

 Code: C - IKE Configuration mode, D - Dead Peer Detection
 K - Keepalives, N - NAT-traversal, X - IKE Extended Authentication

 Interface: FastEthernet0/0
 Session status: UP-ACTIVE
 Peer: x.x.x.x port 4406 fvrf: (none) ivrf: xx
   Phase1_id: 
   Desc: (none)
   IKE SA: local x.x.x.x/4500 remote x.x.x.x/4406 Active
   Capabilities:CXN connid:233 lifetime:07:58:49
   IPSEC FLOW: permit ip 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 host 10.10.210.158
 Active SAs: 2, origin: dynamic crypto map
 Inbound:  #pkts dec'ed 279 drop 69 life (KB/Sec) 4587796/86332
 Outbound: #pkts enc'ed 432 drop 0 life (KB/Sec) 4587562/86332

 Whatever the user tries to do on the VPN, the only thing that changes
 (apart
 from time) is the dec'ed drop packets.  The number of packets
 dec'ed/enc'ed
 is not exactly consistant, but this always happens at the first burst of
 data across the link.  The counters go to a few hundred, then this
 happens.
 The VPN connection stays up, nothing unusual in the client.  It says
 transparent tunneling: active on UDP port 4500, so it probably doesn't
 matter that the client is behind NAT, right?

 The problem only depends on data going over the link, not time.  If I'm
 just
 using ping, traceroute and SSH terminal access, there is no problem.  As
 soon as I put a burst on the link, it hangs and does not recover.  We have
 a
 few customers on the router, each using a different profile (pretty much
 same configuration) and different VRFs for inside networks.  Same problem
 for all of them.

 Thanks in advance,
 Kristo

 Here's the relevant configuration:

 aaa group server radius RADIUS-XX
 server-private x.x.x.x auth-port 1645 acct-port 1646 key xxx
 ip vrf forwarding xx

 aaa authentication login AAA-XX group RADIUS-XX

 aaa authorization network vpn local

 ip vrf xx
 description xx
 rd 65365:7
 route-target export 65365:7
 route-target import 65365:7
 !
 crypto isakmp policy 1
 encr 3des
 hash md5
 authentication pre-share
 group 2
 lifetime 28800
 !
 crypto isakmp policy 20
 encr 3des
 authentication pre-share
 group 5
 !
 crypto isakmp policy 30
 encr 3des
 authentication pre-share
 group 2
 !
 crypto isakmp client configuration group 
 key x
 dns x.x.x.x
 pool xx
 acl xx
 group-lock
 save-password
 max-users 50
 netmask 255.255.255.255
 !
 crypto isakmp profile 
vrf xx
self-identity address
match identity group 
client authentication list AAA-XX
isakmp authorization list vpn
client configuration address respond
initiate mode aggressive
local-address FastEthernet0/0
 !
 crypto ipsec security-association lifetime seconds 86400
 crypto ipsec security-association idle-time 86400
 !
 crypto ipsec transform-set vpn esp-3des esp-md5-hmac
 !
 ! dynamic-map vpn 1-6 and 8-... are other customers who also have the same
 problem
 !
 crypto dynamic-map vpn 7
 set transform-set vpn
 set isakmp-profile 
 reverse-route
 !
 crypto map vpn 65535 ipsec-isakmp dynamic vpn
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/0
 description Uplink
 ip address x.x.x.x 255.255.255.128
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 crypto map vpn
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1.930
 encapsulation dot1Q 930
 ip vrf forwarding xx
 ip address 10.9.8.2 255.255.255.252
 !
 ! The RIP is to advertise the host routes to the VPN clients to another
 router on the inside (and receive routes from there)
 !
 router rip
 version 2
 !
 address-family ipv4 vrf xx
 redistribute connected
 redistribute static
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 network 192.168.124.0
 no auto-summary
 version 2
 exit-address-family
 !
 ip local pool xx 10.10.210.100 10.10.210.200 group xx
 !
 ip access-list extended xx
 (lots of networks)
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Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions

2008-01-24 Thread Nick Voth
Thanks very much for the example Robert!

Do you know if m23 framing on the T3 is a standard with channelized DS3's? I
use a number of ATM DS3's and we use c-bit framing there.

Thanks,

-Nick Voth


 From: Robert Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:02:47 -0500
 To: Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED], cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions
 
 At 01:20 AM 1/24/2008, Nick Voth wrote:
 Our platform is a 7206 VXR with the PA-MC-T3 card running the IP Plus
 feature set on a relatively new IOS. Like I said, I just need the T1's to do
 basic IP traffic.
 
 Here you go:
 
 controller T3 1/0
   framing m23
   cablelength 40
   logging-events detail
   t1 1 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 2 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 3 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 4 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 5 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 6 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 7 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 8 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 9 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 10 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 11 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 12 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 13 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 14 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 15 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 16 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 17 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 18 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 19 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 20 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 21 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 22 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 23 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 24 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 25 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 26 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 27 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 28 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
   t1 1 fdl ansi
   t1 2 fdl ansi
   t1 3 fdl ansi
   t1 4 fdl ansi
   t1 5 fdl ansi
   t1 6 fdl ansi
   t1 7 fdl ansi
   t1 8 fdl ansi
   t1 9 fdl ansi
   t1 10 fdl ansi
   t1 11 fdl ansi
   t1 12 fdl ansi
   t1 13 fdl ansi
   t1 14 fdl ansi
   t1 15 fdl ansi
   t1 16 fdl ansi
   t1 17 fdl ansi
   t1 18 fdl ansi
   t1 19 fdl ansi
   t1 20 fdl ansi
   t1 21 fdl ansi
   t1 22 fdl ansi
   t1 23 fdl ansi
   t1 24 fdl ansi
   t1 25 fdl ansi
   t1 26 fdl ansi
   t1 27 fdl ansi
   t1 28 fdl ansi
   description ATT Channelized DS3 #1 Circuit ID XXX DMarc: Row
 5, Rack 2, Panel 4, Pos 12
 !
 
 interface Serial1/0/1:0
   description to ABC Corp - Circuit ID 123412341234
   ip address 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.252
   no ip redirects
   no ip unreachables
   no ip proxy-arp
   ip flow ingress
   encapsulation ppp
   carrier-delay 10
   fair-queue
   down-when-looped
   no cdp enable
 !
 interface Serial1/0/2:0
   description to DEF Corp - Circuit ID 567567567567
   ip address 5.6.7.8 255.255.255.252
   no ip redirects
   no ip unreachables
   no ip proxy-arp
   ip flow ingress
   encapsulation ppp
   carrier-delay 10
   fair-queue
   down-when-looped
   no cdp enable
 !
 interface Serial1/0/3:0
   description to BigPlace Inc. - Circuit ID 12349876
   ip address 9.10.11.12.13 255.255.255.252
   no ip redirects
   no ip unreachables
   no ip proxy-arp
   ip flow ingress
   encapsulation ppp
   carrier-delay 10
   fair-queue
   down-when-looped
   no cdp enable
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Church, Charles
I don't think I've ever worked on a Novell network that didn't have
DEADBEEF as an internal network server address in use.  Probably added a
few myself... :)

Chuck

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To: Peter Rathlev
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...


On Thu, January 24, 2008 2:12 pm, Peter Rathlev wrote:

 Why DEADBEEF and not some other 'magic' number is up there with why
you
 find so many workstations of long-time coders with the MAC of their
 Ethernet card re-programmed to be nn:nn:nn:C0:FF:FE...

 Maybe even with two Es in the end, like 00:0B:AD:C0:FF:EE, right? :-)

Yeah, that too.  Clearly I haven't had enough of it yet today...

Regards,
Tim.


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Re: [c-nsp] EzVPN drops packets after first data burst

2008-01-24 Thread Kristofer Sigurdsson
2008/1/22, David Freedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I dont see your crypto isakmp nat-keepalive statement.



Good point.  I just added that, setting it to 20 seconds, but unfortunately,
the situation did not change.  Thanks, though.

-Kristo
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Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Thanks very much for the example Robert!
 
 Do you know if m23 framing on the T3 is a standard with channelized DS3's? I
 use a number of ATM DS3's and we use c-bit framing there.

I've got CT3s that are m23 and CT3s that are cbit.

IIRC, PA-MC-T3 may auto-detect framing if you don't set it (although if
you do that, once you see what it is, you might want to explicitly set
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[c-nsp] Need help with F-VRF

2008-01-24 Thread Luan Nguyen
Hello Future CCDEs,

I have a router with dual WAN and one of them is in a VRF-lite, nothing
there but another default route.
I would like to be able to utilize that default route once the primary WAN
is down.
I have ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 SecondaryWAN 250.
When the primary interface down, i can see that in the global routing
table.   I have NAT and show ip nat trans seems okay.
Turn on netflow and doing a source ping, i also see echo-reply packets back
from the ping source.
The local LAN is not inside the vrf-lite.  Looking inside the vrf routing
table, i dónt see the local lan.  i cánt do ip route vrf vrf-lite
local-lan-net interface-local-lan, since the router doesn't let you do it to
the broadcast ethernet.
result of show ip cache flow, destif is the same as srcif...look like the
router doesn't know where the LAN is?


SrcIf SrcIPaddressDstIf DstIPaddressPr SrcP DstP
Pkts
Fa0/0   ping-destination Fa0/0   vrf-lite wan int01 
 2

Thanks.

-lmn
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Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions

2008-01-24 Thread Robert Boyle
At 09:56 AM 1/24/2008, you wrote:
Thanks very much for the example Robert!

Do you know if m23 framing on the T3 is a standard with channelized DS3's? I
use a number of ATM DS3's and we use c-bit framing there.

You're welcome. Today, C-bit is typically used when you have a point 
to point circuit. M23 is typically used when you have a channelized 
DS3. Check with your carrier to make sure you are using the same 
setting. Basically, with M23, you can use the extra signaling slots 
which would have been used by CBit to recover from clock slips to 
carry signaling info. Here is a white paper with more than you ever 
wanted to know.

http://www.sbei.com/files/ds3_wpaper.pdf

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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with F-VRF

2008-01-24 Thread Tim Franklin
On Thu, January 24, 2008 3:20 pm, Luan Nguyen wrote:

 I have a router with dual WAN and one of them is in a VRF-lite, nothing
 there but another default route.
 I would like to be able to utilize that default route once the primary WAN
 is down.

If there's *nothing* in it but a default route, why is it in a VRF?  What
are you trying to achieve with two routing tables on the router?

 I have ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 SecondaryWAN 250.
 When the primary interface down, i can see that in the global routing
 table.   I have NAT and show ip nat trans seems okay.
 Turn on netflow and doing a source ping, i also see echo-reply packets
 back
 from the ping source.
 The local LAN is not inside the vrf-lite.  Looking inside the vrf routing
 table, i dónt see the local lan.  i cánt do ip route vrf vrf-lite
 local-lan-net interface-local-lan, since the router doesn't let you do it
 to
 the broadcast ethernet.

This isn't entirely clear, but if you're doing what it sounds like, a
route to the LAN interface inside the VRF isn't going to make sense,
because the LAN interface isn't in the VRF.

Can you post config, and output from the commands you've mentioned?

Regards,
Tim.


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Re: [c-nsp] MUX

2008-01-24 Thread Oddiraju, Kiran @ London SMC
We were using Marconi in our previous company and it worked fine...

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To: Mad Unix
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] MUX

Hi Mad,

CWDM is a nice and (relatively) cheap solution, but of course it
requires special colour GBICs at each end.

The cost of the passive CWDM muxer and special GBICs + stock for a rainy
day can sometimes make provisioning an extra physical fiber look more
attractive than otherwise, especially for short distances. But YMMV.

Regards,
Peter

On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 22:41 +0100, Arie Vayner (avayner) wrote:
 Mr. madunix, 
 
 Not sure what your requirements are, but if all you need is multiple
 GigE links over the same fiber, take a look at this:
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6575/index.html
 
 Arie
 
 -Original Message-
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 Subject: [c-nsp] MUX
 
 Dear ALL
 
 We are looking to get a MUX for the Fiber between our 2 buildings...
 out of your experience , what do you think about getting *Marconi
OMS
 *

http://www.ericsson.com/solutions/products/hp/Optical_Networks_pa.shtml
 since our LAN and WAN built on Cisco and Exterme devices.
 
 Thanks
 --
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with F-VRF

2008-01-24 Thread Luan Nguyen
I am doing 2 dmvpn tunnels.  One using the primary, one using the vrf.  They
both terminate into the same hub router.
NAT config:
ip nat inside source route-map NAT_SEC_WAN interface FastEthernet0/0
overload
route-map NAT_SEC_WAN permit 10
 match ip address PAT_ACL_1
 match interface FastEthernet0/0
ip access-list extended PAT_ACL_1
 permit ip 10.7.1.0 0.0.0.255 any

VRF
ip vrf fvrf
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip vrf forwarding fvrf
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 FastEthernet0/0 100
ip route vrf fvrf 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 FastEthernet-nexthop
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Primary-interface track 500

I was tracking failover, but with F-VRF, probably no need to anymore.
I need the lan to be outside, because normally, it would go out the primary
non-vrf wan interface.


A ping from the host on the lan to 4.2.2.2

Site7R1#show ip cache flow
IP packet size distribution (506 total packets):
   1-32   64   96  128  160  192  224  256  288  320  352  384  416  448
480
   .000 .146 .363 .162 .298 .000 .013 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .009 .000
.005

512  544  576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608
   .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000

IP Flow Switching Cache, 278544 bytes
  4 active, 4092 inactive, 94 added
  4226 ager polls, 0 flow alloc failures
  Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
  Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds
IP Sub Flow Cache, 25800 bytes
  0 active, 1024 inactive, 0 added, 0 added to flow
  0 alloc failures, 0 force free
  1 chunk, 1 chunk added
  last clearing of statistics never
Protocol TotalFlows   Packets Bytes  Packets Active(Sec)
Idle(Sec)
 Flows /Sec /Flow  /Pkt /Sec /Flow /Flow
TCP-other   37  0.0 144  0.0   1.8  15.5
UDP-NTP 39  0.0 176  0.0   0.0  15.1
UDP-other1  0.0 4   261  0.0   0.1  15.3
ICMP13  0.0 5   100  0.0   7.6  15.4
Total:  90  0.0 276  0.0   1.8  15.3

SrcIf SrcIPaddressDstIf DstIPaddressPr SrcP DstP
Pkts
Fa0/1 10.7.1.2Fa0/0 4.2.2.2   01 
0800 5
Fa0/0 4.2.2.2 Fa0/0  Fa0/0-IP 01 
 5


Site7R1#show ip nat trans
Pro Inside global  Inside local   Outside local  Outside global
icmp Fa0/0-IP:13  10.7.1.2:13   4.2.2.2:13 4.2.2.2:13

Seem like the return nat doesn't work.  Maybe i should use debug ip packet
detail :)

Thanks.

lmn


On Jan 24, 2008 10:49 AM, Tim Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, January 24, 2008 3:20 pm, Luan Nguyen wrote:

  I have a router with dual WAN and one of them is in a VRF-lite, nothing
  there but another default route.
  I would like to be able to utilize that default route once the primary
 WAN
  is down.

 If there's *nothing* in it but a default route, why is it in a VRF?  What
 are you trying to achieve with two routing tables on the router?

  I have ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 SecondaryWAN 250.
  When the primary interface down, i can see that in the global routing
  table.   I have NAT and show ip nat trans seems okay.
  Turn on netflow and doing a source ping, i also see echo-reply packets
  back
  from the ping source.
  The local LAN is not inside the vrf-lite.  Looking inside the vrf
 routing
  table, i dónt see the local lan.  i cánt do ip route vrf vrf-lite
  local-lan-net interface-local-lan, since the router doesn't let you do
 it
  to
  the broadcast ethernet.

 This isn't entirely clear, but if you're doing what it sounds like, a
 route to the LAN interface inside the VRF isn't going to make sense,
 because the LAN interface isn't in the VRF.

 Can you post config, and output from the commands you've mentioned?

 Regards,
 Tim.



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[c-nsp] Cisco 3560G ip routing and multicast ?

2008-01-24 Thread Xavier Beaudouin
Hello,

We like to understand how multicast is handled with Cisco 3560G in a
very special case : when we don't enable multicast routing in the  device.

Problem is :

- we have more than 100 machines in a /25 that does multicast using
  pim sparse-dense mode.
- we have several 3560G with 2 (maybe more in the future) vlan with
  !
  ip multicast-routing distributed
  ip igmp snooping vlan 10 immediate-leave
  ip igmp snooping vlan 20 immediate-leave
  !
  interface vlan10
ip address 10.2.2.201 255.255.255.0
ip pim sparse-mode
  !
  interface vlan20
ip address 10.2.3.201 é55.255.255.0
ip pim sparse-mode
  !

We like to add a dedicated 3560G to do the IP Unicast routing only :
  !
  interface vlan10
ip address 10.2.2.254 255.255.255.0
  !
  interface vlan20
ip address 10.2.3.254 é55.255.255.0
  !

Problem is that this device will receive the multicast (we have about
200 / 300 Mbps of multicast in general).

How will be handled the multicast ? does packets will goes into CPU
before discarded ?

Unicast traffic will be less than 1 or 2% of bandwith in general on each
ports...

Thanks for yours informations.

/Xavier
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Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions

2008-01-24 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Nick Voth wrote:

 Thanks very much for the example Robert!

 Do you know if m23 framing on the T3 is a standard with channelized DS3's? I
 use a number of ATM DS3's and we use c-bit framing there.

c-bit framing is normally used for clear-channel DS3s.
m13/m23 framing is normally used for channelized circuits.

jms
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco WIC-1DSU-T1-V2 + 2811 + 12.4(11)T ??

2008-01-24 Thread gagandeep singh
Hi
I have purchsed 1841 with same wic module .Is this below config work for point 
to point T1 connection. 
 
interface Serial0/0

 
 
 ip address 

 
 
 service-module t1 framing esf

 
 
 service-module t1 linecode b8zs

 
 
 service-module t1 timeslots 1-12 speed 64

Regards
Gagandeep

 



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 I can't get this combination to bring up a T1.
 
 Configured as
  encaps hdlc
  service-module t1 clock source line
  service-module t1 line b8zs
  service-module t1 frame esf
  service-module t1 timeslots all
 
 Indicator LED on WIC is green, with no alarms.

Look closely at the jack on the WIC, the molded plastic on the back of 
where the plug inserts.  Does it read STEWART?  If not, you have a 
fake WIC.  Even if it does, you might have a fake.

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[c-nsp] command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Joe Maimon
All,

Can anyone tell me what the config command to peg an interface as up 
even though its line down?

I seem to recall seeing this just days ago.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: [c-nsp] command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Jared Mauch
no keepalive ?

- Jared

On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 01:44:37PM -0500, Joe Maimon wrote:
 All,
 
 Can anyone tell me what the config command to peg an interface as up 
 even though its line down?
 
 I seem to recall seeing this just days ago.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
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[c-nsp] RES: command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Juliano Luz - Sicredi
No keepalive.



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Assunto: [c-nsp] command to peg interface up

All,

Can anyone tell me what the config command to peg an interface as up 
even though its line down?

I seem to recall seeing this just days ago.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: [c-nsp] command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Luan Nguyen
just do a no keepalive :)

-lmn

On Jan 24, 2008 1:44 PM, Joe Maimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All,

 Can anyone tell me what the config command to peg an interface as up
 even though its line down?

 I seem to recall seeing this just days ago.

 Thanks,

 Joe
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Re: [c-nsp] command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Joe Maimon
yes. so unintuitive.



Luan Nguyen wrote:

 just do a no keepalive :)
 
 -lmn
 
 On Jan 24, 2008 1:44 PM, Joe Maimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Can anyone tell me what the config command to peg an interface as up
 even though its line down?
 
 I seem to recall seeing this just days ago.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
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Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions

2008-01-24 Thread Nick Voth
 From: Robert Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:46:25 -0500
 To: Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED], cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and T1 config questions
 
 At 09:56 AM 1/24/2008, you wrote:
 Thanks very much for the example Robert!
 
 Do you know if m23 framing on the T3 is a standard with channelized DS3's? I
 use a number of ATM DS3's and we use c-bit framing there.
 
 You're welcome. Today, C-bit is typically used when you have a point
 to point circuit. M23 is typically used when you have a channelized
 DS3. Check with your carrier to make sure you are using the same
 setting. Basically, with M23, you can use the extra signaling slots
 which would have been used by CBit to recover from clock slips to
 carry signaling info. Here is a white paper with more than you ever
 wanted to know.
 
 http://www.sbei.com/files/ds3_wpaper.pdf
 
 -Robert
 

Very good info Robert. Thanks,

-Nick Voth


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Re: [c-nsp] command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Jeff Kell
Joe Maimon wrote:
 yes. so unintuitive.
   

Hey, it beats unkeepalive all :-)

Jeff


 Luan Nguyen wrote:

   
 just do a no keepalive :)

 -lmn

 On Jan 24, 2008 1:44 PM, Joe Maimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All,

 Can anyone tell me what the config command to peg an interface as up
 even though its line down?

 I seem to recall seeing this just days ago.

 Thanks,

 Joe

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Re: [c-nsp] command to peg interface up

2008-01-24 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary

 Hey, it beats unkeepalive all :-)

service enable undead?
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[c-nsp] Some assitance please...

2008-01-24 Thread Richard Golodner


   I am opening a new office and have a 1.5 Meg DSL circuit being dropped to
the C.O. from ATT with a few static IP's. I would like to use the Cisco
1801 W instead of the ATT modem as it offers me al the features I want, but
I am no DSL expert. I understand the 1801 has a DSL modem built in. 
I would like to by pass the ATT modem and use the Cisco as my DSL
modem, router and firewall along with the bridged wireless LAN. Is this
possible? And what kind of information should I get from the ATT tech who
does the initial install? I imagine I will need the VPI /VCI, but what other
information would be needed?
If people have some better ideas please feel free to let me know. I
appreciate all the help in the past and also want to say thanks in advance
most sincerely, Richard Golodner



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Re: [c-nsp] Some assitance please...

2008-01-24 Thread Roy
I don't recommend this to my clients.  If you keep the ATT modem in 
there then you can unplug the router so you can troubleshoot the DSL 
circuit.   It will make your life easier when dealing with ATT tech 
support.  Just insist on a modem with no routing.

Roy

Richard Golodner wrote:
I am opening a new office and have a 1.5 Meg DSL circuit being dropped to
 the C.O. from ATT with a few static IP's. I would like to use the Cisco
 1801 W instead of the ATT modem as it offers me al the features I want, but
 I am no DSL expert. I understand the 1801 has a DSL modem built in. 
   I would like to by pass the ATT modem and use the Cisco as my DSL
 modem, router and firewall along with the bridged wireless LAN. Is this
 possible? And what kind of information should I get from the ATT tech who
 does the initial install? I imagine I will need the VPI /VCI, but what other
 information would be needed?
   If people have some better ideas please feel free to let me know. I
 appreciate all the help in the past and also want to say thanks in advance
 most sincerely, Richard Golodner



   

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[c-nsp] FW: 1801 W with DSL

2008-01-24 Thread Richard Golodner


I am opening a new office and have a 1.5 Meg DSL circuit being
dropped to the C.O. from ATT with a few static IP's. I would like to use
the Cisco 1801 W instead of the ATT modem as it offers me al the features I
want, but I am no DSL expert. I understand the 1801 has a DSL modem built
in. 
I would like to by pass the ATT modem and use the Cisco as my DSL
modem, router and firewall along with the bridged wireless LAN. Is this
possible? And what kind of information should I get from the ATT tech who
does the initial install? I imagine I will need the VPI /VCI, but what other
information would be needed?
If people have some better ideas please feel free to let me know. I
appreciate all the help in the past and also want to say thanks in advance
most sincerely, Richard Golodner

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Re: [c-nsp] Some assitance please...

2008-01-24 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Richard Golodner wrote:

   I am opening a new office and have a 1.5 Meg DSL circuit being dropped to
 the C.O. from ATT with a few static IP's. I would like to use the Cisco
 1801 W instead of the ATT modem as it offers me al the features I want, but
 I am no DSL expert. I understand the 1801 has a DSL modem built in.
   I would like to by pass the ATT modem and use the Cisco as my DSL
 modem, router and firewall along with the bridged wireless LAN. Is this
 possible? And what kind of information should I get from the ATT tech who
 does the initial install? I imagine I will need the VPI /VCI, but what other
 information would be needed?

If the 1801 works like the SB107, then you don't need an external DSL 
modem.  I deployed one of these at a remote site for a client and it works 
fine.

As you mentioned, you will need the VPI and VCI.  You may also need a 
username and password if the telco uses PPPoE to authenticate you and 
register you on their network.  If the telco provided a DSL modem, you 
might be able to log into it to see what it has set for the VPI and VCI 
because getting that info from customer support can be trying at times.

jms
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Re: [c-nsp] Some assitance please...

2008-01-24 Thread Jason Gurtz
 [...] I imagine I will need the VPI /VCI, but what
 other information would be needed?

You can ask them about the VPI/VCI and they may know but it's usually
0/35.  Other than that there's lots of example configs out there on how to
configure Cisco stuff with dsl.

I'll throw a positive vote for the exercise as Cisco gear at least offers
troubleshooting tools and good hardware support.  I don't find it any more
difficult to troubleshoot than discreet compontentry.

~JasonG
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco WIC-1DSU-T1-V2 + 2811 + 12.4(11)T ??

2008-01-24 Thread Jay Hennigan
gagandeep singh wrote:
 Hi
 I have purchsed 1841 with same wic module .Is this below config work for 
 point to point T1 connection.
 
 interface Serial0/0
 
  ip address 
 
  service-module t1 framing esf
 
  service-module t1 linecode b8zs
 
  service-module t1 timeslots 1-12 speed 64

Only if you are using just half of the T1 for data and you have the same 
timeslots on both ends.  Otherwise you want:

  service-module t1 timeslots 1-24 speed 64   (which is the default).

Also, on a point-to-point circuit depending on the carrier you may need 
to put:

  service-module t1 clock source internal

on ONE (not both) end of the circuit.

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Re: [c-nsp] Some assitance please...

2008-01-24 Thread Daniel Hooper
Here is a great tool from Cisco that goes through a little bit of a
wizard and asks the required information and then generates the
configuration, not to mention the SDM application on those little ISR's
is pretty neato and makes it easy to configure DSL connections, probably
easier then some of the netcomms/billion/dlink/Linksys routers.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk175/tk15/technologies_configuration_ex
ample09186a008015407f.shtml

to access SDM you just plug the device in and point a browser at it's IP
which will be documented in the quick start guide.

-Dan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Gurtz
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2008 6:38 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Some assitance please...

 [...] I imagine I will need the VPI /VCI, but what
 other information would be needed?

You can ask them about the VPI/VCI and they may know but it's usually
0/35.  Other than that there's lots of example configs out there on how
to
configure Cisco stuff with dsl.

I'll throw a positive vote for the exercise as Cisco gear at least
offers
troubleshooting tools and good hardware support.  I don't find it any
more
difficult to troubleshoot than discreet compontentry.

~JasonG
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routes: 207k + 157k = 238k ???...

2008-01-24 Thread Tony Li

 there is something I can't quite figure out with BGP.

 Let a bi-homed AS with only two BGP speakers (each of them has one  
 eBGP
 session with a different upstream, they speak iBGP together).

 Router 1 receives 238k routes from provider A; so does router 2 from
 provider B.

 When looking at iBGP, it can be seen that router 1 sends 207k  
 routes to
 router 2, while router 2 sends only 157k routes to router 1.

 I'm surprised by these numbers: the sum of routes from 1 to 2 plus
 routes from 2 to 1 not only does not equal 238k, but is even greater
 than 238k (I would have understood it was smaller).

 What does these numbers mean?...


Welcome to BGP.

A BGP speaker is only going to advertise its best external paths via  
iBGP.  If it has selected your other BGP speaker as its best path, it  
will not (currently) advertise the externals that are not the best path.

If you examine your BGP RIB closely, you should be able to find  
routes where the BGP speaker has both paths present.

Regards,
Tony

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Re: [c-nsp] 2811 crash...

2008-01-24 Thread Tony Li

 I've got a 2811 that crashed with a bus error within a few hours of
 enabling Netflow export.  I haven't opened a TAC case yet, but my
 curiousity was aroused by the address at which the error occured
 0xDEADBEF3.  This could almost be pronounced Dead Beef

 Yes - traditionally it's 0xDEADBEEF, I guess Cisco felt the need to
 distinguish between different sides of beef and so dropped an 'E'  
 to add
 an index number :)


Actually what's probably happening is that some chunk of code has  
picked up this intentionally bogus value and is treating it as a  
pointer into a C structure and then referencing into that structure.

Tony

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routes: 207k + 157k = 238k ???...

2008-01-24 Thread Deepak Jain
 
 Welcome to BGP.
 
 A BGP speaker is only going to advertise its best external paths via  
 iBGP.  If it has selected your other BGP speaker as its best path, it  
 will not (currently) advertise the externals that are not the best path.
 
 If you examine your BGP RIB closely, you should be able to find  
 routes where the BGP speaker has both paths present.

Tony,

In your opinion, is there any downside to this behavior operationally 
(other than the time it takes for a unadvertised route to present itself 
  in the event the advertised route is withdrawn?)?

Thanks,

Deepak

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[c-nsp] Juniper - Cisco Catalyst Fast Ether Channel Load Balancing

2008-01-24 Thread a. rahman isnaini r.sutan

Hi,

Any suggestion will be very appreciated.

Here's the scheme :
Ports aggregation with trunking was success between Juniper - Cisco
Catalyst, but i'm having problem with the load that is not balanced on
each port.

It might be the config still missing one line somewhere :)

- a. rahman isnaini rangkayo sutan


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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routes: 207k + 157k = 238k ???...

2008-01-24 Thread Tony Li

On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:

 In your opinion, is there any downside to this behavior  
 operationally (other than the time it takes for a unadvertised  
 route to present itself  in the event the advertised route is  
 withdrawn?)?


Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

;-)


The advantage to that behavior is that it helps reduce the state  
involved.  If all iBGP speakers advertise all routes, then you end up  
with tables the size of (# of routes) * (# of BGP speakers) at every  
speaker.  While this might not seem like a lot, consider the case of  
Tier 1 SPs who have 240k routes (+ internal routes) times 500 or so  
BGP speakers.

DRAM is cheap, but it's not free.

Tony

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[c-nsp] 3845 and SDM?

2008-01-24 Thread jacob c
Can someone explain to me something in regards to the 3845 and SDM? I have a 
new 3845 and it came default with a username and password of cisco. It also 
comes across saying something about using SDM to configure it. Is SDM included 
with the router? Is there a bin file I have to load or do I just point my 
browser to it and go?
   
  I thought I just point by browser to it and go but it never comes up all the 
way so I figured that maybe I was missing something. Also, this the first time 
I have bought a router that came pre setup with usernames.
   
  Thanks,

   
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routes: 207k + 157k = 238k ???...

2008-01-24 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Tony Li wrote:

 there is something I can't quite figure out with BGP.

 Let a bi-homed AS with only two BGP speakers (each of them has one
 eBGP
 session with a different upstream, they speak iBGP together).

 Router 1 receives 238k routes from provider A; so does router 2 from
 provider B.

 When looking at iBGP, it can be seen that router 1 sends 207k
 routes to
 router 2, while router 2 sends only 157k routes to router 1.

 I'm surprised by these numbers: the sum of routes from 1 to 2 plus
 routes from 2 to 1 not only does not equal 238k, but is even greater
 than 238k (I would have understood it was smaller).

 What does these numbers mean?...


 Welcome to BGP.

 A BGP speaker is only going to advertise its best external paths via
 iBGP.  If it has selected your other BGP speaker as its best path, it
 will not (currently) advertise the externals that are not the best path.

 If you examine your BGP RIB closely, you should be able to find
 routes where the BGP speaker has both paths present.

 Regards,
 Tony

In addition to Tony's answer there is one other reason for this to occur -
too little memory in one of the routers.  If memory runs out in one of
them then it can't install all the routes it needs to but you should see
some error message in the log.

But Tony's is the more logical explanation.

-Hank

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