Re: [c-nsp] disable break on boot for IOS??

2009-07-14 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
This is good advice for newer machines but I've got a UBR 
 924 with 12.1T code on it - 'no service password-recover' 
 isn't an option for me. Which config-register setting will do 
 what I need?

None. You cannot disable break during the first minute (or so) with a config
register.

 Seems like maybe 0x8102 would do it

The disable break 0x0100 disables break after the initial one-minute (or
so) window.

Ivan

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[c-nsp] MST config on single 3560

2009-07-14 Thread mb

Hi,

We have existing 3560's with multiple trunk ports to clients+upstreams 
- We will go very close to hitting the 128 STP instance limit, 
therefore MST looks to be like an option(Without upgrading the 
switches).


The 3560's also have a trunk port to 7200's(For dot1q subints), for 
clients that require L3 connectivity.


I'm just a little unsure how to group vlans into seperate instances(Or 
if it is entirely necessary?)


i.e. GE0/1 (From Provider A) has:

interface GigabitEthernet0/1
description GIGE_ICAP_INTERNETCONNECT_TO_PROVIDER_A
switchport trunk allowed vlan 112,172,208,211,240,309,315,385,537,547,550-552
switchport trunk allowed vlan add 554,623,635,687,690,694,696,697,867,879,980
switchport mode trunk

These vlan's are allocated by provider and represent individual 
services - These vlans are then either presented on client trunk ports 
for L2 services, or added to trunk port to 7200 for L3 services.


So as you can see, there is no standard for how the individual vlan's 
are treated, nor which trunk port they may be presented on.hoping 
someone can provide guideance on how best to manage this?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 iBGP Route Reflector

2009-07-14 Thread Aleksandr Gurbo
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:08:17 -0400
Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 Over the weekend, I'll find out how the OP can fix the routes, and
 moreover, why they are broken in the first place.

 Steve

Have you any ideas how to fix reflected routes?


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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread Ryan West
Jeff, 

Give this a shot:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/docs/security/asa/asa82/configuration/guide/ike.html#wp1121157

You can enable multiple peers inside a single crypto map.

-ryan

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

Answer is: BGP

On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Munoz, Jeff wrote:

 Hey guys, I have two main sites (site A and site B) and one remote  
 site (site C).  Sites A and B have a metroethernet connection  
 between them.  Remote site C has an IPsec tunnel back to site A.   
 I'd like to setup failover so in case site A's ASA is down the  
 remote site C ASA sends the interesting traffic down the site B  
 IPsec tunnel.  Unfortunately, it will always match the tunnel to  
 site A since the phase 2 access lists have the same source/ 
 destinations.  Any ideas on how I can do this?

 Thanks!

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[c-nsp] Stability of 12.2(33)SRD?

2009-07-14 Thread Stephen Fulton

Hi all,

I'm looking for thoughts on the stability of 12.2(33)SRD releases (latest is 
SRD2) in general, as well as any experiences running it on the 7600/RSP720 
series.  I'm connecting a SIP400/SPA-5x1GEv2 to a CWDM network, and only SRD 
supports the CWDM SFP's on the SIP400.  Yay.


Thanks,

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Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this time

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:21:39PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
   They are now claiming the site is fixed, but I'm asking for a RFO
 and what their maint policy is on the website.  If my bank can tell
 me when they do maint, I would hope that Cisco can.

Where are you asking for the RFO?  I have not found a way to contact the
folks responsible for breaking^Wrunning the WWW and FTP servers yet.

(And I have serious doubts that you'll get an answer...)

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Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this time

2009-07-14 Thread Phil Mayers

Gert Doering wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:21:39PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:

They are now claiming the site is fixed, but I'm asking for a RFO
and what their maint policy is on the website.  If my bank can tell
me when they do maint, I would hope that Cisco can.


Where are you asking for the RFO?  I have not found a way to contact the
folks responsible for breaking^Wrunning the WWW and FTP servers yet.

(And I have serious doubts that you'll get an answer...)


Agreed. The Cisco web team are obviously extremely clueless, and I doubt 
anything that individual users can do will persuade them to roll back 
these changes. The people on this list are, I suspect, too small a 
percentage of the customer base to overrule the click and gawp crowd.


(Unless there's someone from AOL or one of the major internet exchanges 
lurking here who can apply some pressure ;o)


But can I just make a recommendation to everyone here: next time you go 
out to competitive tender, specify the nature of docs  software 
availability. List HTTP downloads without client software or plugins 
as a mandatory requirement.


Those of you speaking to Cisco now, tell them that you're going to be 
doing that, and that they *WILL LOSE* the next competitive tender if 
they can't fulfil that requirement.


We did so, and I'm planning on smacking Cisco around the head with that 
document shortly. Doubtless it'll be futile, but it's worth a shot...

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Re: [c-nsp] multiple vlans on a port

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Amorsen
Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com writes:

 Also, with 802.1q framing, you might run into fragmentation on the
 non-native VLANs. You may want to adjust the MTU on the virtual
 machines if Linux doesn't do it automatically.

Linux, with reasonably modern kernels, automatically allows an extra 4
bytes for the 802.1q tag. You're ok, as long as the switch allows them
too.

This logic seems to break down when doing q-in-q, where you may have to
adjust the MTU to 1508 for the untagged device. This may be fixed in
the last few kernels; I haven't tried lately.


/Benny

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

 ... but it doesn't say anything about the number of STP instances.

things go wonky when you have more than 1800 virtualports per slot
(which you didnt quite reach) (1200 on older eg 100mbit blades)
with 13,000 in total (PVST+), 10,000 in total (RPVST+) 

however, with MST, you can have 6000 virtual ports per blade and 50,000
in total (yay!)

however, this is all about logical interfaces. you want to know the
STP instance? 

regarding maximum STP instances... I believe theres a platform limit
of 1024 because of the MAC to VLAN bridge mapping on the platform -
but, from the values above, you can see that virtual ports would
hit you quite quickly without appropriate control of the VLANs

alan
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Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this time

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
 But can I just make a recommendation to everyone here: next time you go 
 out to competitive tender, specify the nature of docs  software 
 availability. List HTTP downloads without client software or plugins 
 as a mandatory requirement.

While this is a nice idea to cause some pressure, I can't see it as
overly realistic - if I have a router A that will fulfill everything
that we need, and a router B that will only do 80% and at the same
time costs 20% more, but has a better company web interface, I think it's
very unlikely that their web download thingie will be change our
decision.

(Besides, most competitors web sites and software download processes are 
even worse)

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[c-nsp] Block URL ACCESS LIST

2009-07-14 Thread Mohammad Khalil

how can i block url using access-list ?

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Re: [c-nsp] multiple vlans on a port

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:38:23PM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
 Also, with 802.1q framing, you might run into fragmentation on
 the non-native VLANs. You may want to adjust the MTU on the virtual
 machines if Linux doesn't do it automatically.

There are a few broken NIC cards on the Linux side that have issues
with baby-jumbo packets (1500 + 4 byte for 802.1q header).  Decent
gear - and that's what you want to use on a *server* - doesn't have
any issues there.

And, just to clarify: *If* you have MTU problems due to 802.1q headers,
you will not see fragmentation.  You'll see black-holing, because the
stack will not know about the MTU issue, and thus won't even think
about fragmentation.  (Fragmentation happens if there is a link on
the path that has smaller L3 MTU than the packet's sender - but in this
scenario, the L3 endpoints assume 1500, while the L2 link cannot handle
this.  Black hole).

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Re: [c-nsp] Block URL ACCESS LIST

2009-07-14 Thread masood

Please go to the following URL to begin:

http://weblogs.com.pk/jahil/archive/2008/11/15/how-nbar-actually-classifies-the-traffic-flows.aspx

Regards,
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Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 iBGP Route Reflector

2009-07-14 Thread Steve Bertrand
Aleksandr Gurbo wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:08:17 -0400
 Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 
 Over the weekend, I'll find out how the OP can fix the routes, and
 moreover, why they are broken in the first place.

 Steve
 
 Have you any ideas how to fix reflected routes?

I will be working on this specific issue today, as I need to make some
changes in preparation of adding a new router later this week.

I'll keep you posted if I find anything specific as I go.

Steve


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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread Forrest, Michael E.
I was under the impression that there was no BGP support in the ASA platform, 
unless someone knows otherwise?

Michael.

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Prabhu Gurumurthy
 Sent: 14 July 2009 00:34
 To: Munoz, Jeff
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

 Answer is: BGP

 On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Munoz, Jeff wrote:

  Hey guys, I have two main sites (site A and site B) and one remote
  site (site C).  Sites A and B have a metroethernet connection
  between them.  Remote site C has an IPsec tunnel back to site A.
  I'd like to setup failover so in case site A's ASA is down the
  remote site C ASA sends the interesting traffic down the site B
  IPsec tunnel.  Unfortunately, it will always match the tunnel to
  site A since the phase 2 access lists have the same source/
  destinations.  Any ideas on how I can do this?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Jeff
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,
 I was under the impression that there was no BGP support in the ASA platform, 
 unless someone knows otherwise?

ah, ASAs and dynamic routing protocols...and you'll be wanting
those in multi-context mode too?  ;-)

alan

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Geoffrey Pendery
Yes, but he also mentions MST, which has a much more restrictive limit.
As far as I've seen, 802.1s itself only allows 64 instances (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanning_tree_protocol , or search for
the proper RFC docs)
But all the Cisco docs I've found this morning say they only support 16:
for example:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SXF/native/configuration/guide/spantree.html#wp1064097

I could have sworn I found stuff saying that our gear would support 64
of them, and we've been contemplating more than 40 in recent designs,
but I guess I'll have to validate in the lab whether it's actually 16
or 64 for our chassis and code.

So keep in mind that if you're moving from RPVST to MST, you're
talking about fewer instances, by necessity.


-Geoff


On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:45 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi,

 ... but it doesn't say anything about the number of STP instances.

 things go wonky when you have more than 1800 virtualports per slot
 (which you didnt quite reach) (1200 on older eg 100mbit blades)
 with 13,000 in total (PVST+), 10,000 in total (RPVST+)

 however, with MST, you can have 6000 virtual ports per blade and 50,000
 in total (yay!)

 however, this is all about logical interfaces. you want to know the
 STP instance?

 regarding maximum STP instances... I believe theres a platform limit
 of 1024 because of the MAC to VLAN bridge mapping on the platform -
 but, from the values above, you can see that virtual ports would
 hit you quite quickly without appropriate control of the VLANs

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:


So keep in mind that if you're moving from RPVST to MST, you're
talking about fewer instances, by necessity.


But isn't that the whole point of MST?  Most of what I've read about it 
talks about doing setups where you only have 2 or 3 instances, with all 
your vlans in the 2nd and or 3rd instance.


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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread Jonathan Brashear
There's not as of yet.  OSPF, RIP, EIGRP, yes, BGP no. 


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Forrest, Michael E.
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:51 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

I was under the impression that there was no BGP support in the ASA platform, 
unless someone knows otherwise?

Michael.

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 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Prabhu Gurumurthy
 Sent: 14 July 2009 00:34
 To: Munoz, Jeff
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

 Answer is: BGP

 On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Munoz, Jeff wrote:

  Hey guys, I have two main sites (site A and site B) and one remote
  site (site C).  Sites A and B have a metroethernet connection
  between them.  Remote site C has an IPsec tunnel back to site A.
  I'd like to setup failover so in case site A's ASA is down the
  remote site C ASA sends the interesting traffic down the site B
  IPsec tunnel.  Unfortunately, it will always match the tunnel to
  site A since the phase 2 access lists have the same source/
  destinations.  Any ideas on how I can do this?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Jeff
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[c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Jonathan Brashear
I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.  Originally it 
was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot it began to allow access 
via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not working.  I've verified that the 
username/pass is correct(it works through the ASDM) and that SSH access is 
allowed from the relevant IP range(I get to a password prompt), but it refuses 
to accept known good passwords from multiple accounts.  It thinks the password 
is bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into this issue with other 
ASAs that are configured identically and I can login to the other ASAs from the 
same terminal window so it shouldn't be something to do with my terminal 
emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be happening?

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Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Nick Griffin
Make sure ssh is setup for location authentication and possibly regenerate
your ssh keys:
this is what I usually do:

crypto key generate rsa general modul 2048

aaa authentication telnet console LOCAL

aaa authentication ssh console LOCAL

aaa authentication http console LOCAL

aaa authentication serial console LOCAL



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On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Brashear 
jonathan.brash...@hq.speakeasy.net wrote:

 I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.
  Originally it was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot it began
 to allow access via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not working.  I've verified
 that the username/pass is correct(it works through the ASDM) and that SSH
 access is allowed from the relevant IP range(I get to a password prompt),
 but it refuses to accept known good passwords from multiple accounts.  It
 thinks the password is bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into
 this issue with other ASAs that are configured identically and I can login
 to the other ASAs from the same terminal window so it shouldn't be something
 to do with my terminal emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be
 happening?

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:26:13AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
 But isn't that the whole point of MST?  

We have found MST to be mostly pointless...

Too much hassle, too little gain

But then, we're a service provider environment, and there are hardly
two VLANs that share the same topology - which maps very poorly to MST
instances.  At the same time, there is a fairly high dynamic in adding
and removing VLANs, which is *quite* painful with MST instance 
mappings...

I just wish more vendors would see the light and implement rapid-PVSTP.

Or at least PVSTP, instead of yes, we have VLANs, and a big global single
STP (which is really useless).

gert

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Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Nick Griffin
sorry, location = local :)

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Nick Griffin nick.jon.grif...@gmail.comwrote:

 Make sure ssh is setup for location authentication and possibly regenerate
 your ssh keys:
 this is what I usually do:

 crypto key generate rsa general modul 2048

 aaa authentication telnet console LOCAL

 aaa authentication ssh console LOCAL

 aaa authentication http console LOCAL

 aaa authentication serial console LOCAL



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 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Brashear 
 jonathan.brash...@hq.speakeasy.net wrote:

 I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.
  Originally it was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot it began
 to allow access via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not working.  I've verified
 that the username/pass is correct(it works through the ASDM) and that SSH
 access is allowed from the relevant IP range(I get to a password prompt),
 but it refuses to accept known good passwords from multiple accounts.  It
 thinks the password is bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into
 this issue with other ASAs that are configured identically and I can login
 to the other ASAs from the same terminal window so it shouldn't be something
 to do with my terminal emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be
 happening?

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  214-981-1954 (office)
  214-642-4075 (cell)
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Justin Krejci
If you provide your aaa configuration we might be able to assist like the
output from these commands (assuming you have console access)

show run aaa
show run aaa-server

I am not very familiar with ASDM so I don't know where the aaa config lives
in ASDM but certainly you'll want to look around in that part.

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To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.  Originally
it was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot it began to allow
access via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not working.  I've verified that the
username/pass is correct(it works through the ASDM) and that SSH access is
allowed from the relevant IP range(I get to a password prompt), but it
refuses to accept known good passwords from multiple accounts.  It thinks
the password is bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into this
issue with other ASAs that are configured identically and I can login to the
other ASAs from the same terminal window so it shouldn't be something to do
with my terminal emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be happening?

Network Engineer, JNCIS-M
 214-981-1954 (office) 
 214-642-4075 (cell)
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Geoffrey Pendery
Indeed, but the original question asked was about the instance
limitations, and all the responses thrown out are in the 1000-4000
range, discussing virtual interfaces and RPVST.  Nobody seems to have
answered the fairly simple initial question.  I think that answer is
either 16 or 64, depending on your code.

The separate question of do you really need all 1000 of those
instances is a design debate which could be had at length, and would
likely come out different depending on the underlying network design
and requirements.

At least in the case of the enterprise where I work, the whole point
of MST is that it's a proper open standard, rather than one of those
super scary Cisco Proprietary Protocols.


-Geoff


On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Jon Lewisjle...@lewis.org wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:

 So keep in mind that if you're moving from RPVST to MST, you're
 talking about fewer instances, by necessity.

 But isn't that the whole point of MST?  Most of what I've read about it
 talks about doing setups where you only have 2 or 3 instances, with all your
 vlans in the 2nd and or 3rd instance.

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 80, Issue 49

2009-07-14 Thread Digambar. Giri
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   2. Block URL ACCESS LIST (Mohammad Khalil)
   3. Re: multiple vlans on a port (Gert Doering)
   4. Re: Block URL ACCESS LIST (mas...@nexlinx.net.pk)
   5. Re: IPv6 iBGP Route Reflector (Steve Bertrand)
   6. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (Forrest, Michael E.)
   7. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk)
   8. Re: Maximum spannig tree instances (Geoffrey Pendery)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:56:48 +0200
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 To: Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk
 Cc: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net,Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this
time
 Message-ID: 20090714085648.gd...@greenie.muc.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hi,

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
  But can I just make a recommendation to everyone here: next time you go
  out to competitive tender, specify the nature of docs  software
  availability. List HTTP downloads without client software or plugins
  as a mandatory requirement.

 While this is a nice idea to cause some pressure, I can't see it as
 overly realistic - if I have a router A that will fulfill everything
 that we need, and a router B that will only do 80% and at the same
 time costs 20% more, but has a better company web interface, I think it's
 very unlikely that their web download thingie will be change our
 decision.

 (Besides, most competitors web sites and software download processes are
 even worse)

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 how can i block url using access-list ?

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 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:49:11 +0200
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 To: Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] multiple vlans on a port
 Message-ID: 20090714094911.gh...@greenie.muc.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hi,

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:38:23PM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
  Also, with 802.1q framing, you might run into fragmentation on
  the non-native VLANs. You may want to adjust the MTU on the virtual
  machines if Linux doesn't do it automatically.

 There are a few broken NIC cards on the Linux side that have issues
 with baby-jumbo packets (1500 + 4 byte for 802.1q header).  Decent
 gear - and that's what you want to use on a *server* - doesn't have
 any issues there.

 And, just to clarify: *If* you have MTU problems due to 802.1q headers,
 you will not see fragmentation.  You'll see black-holing, because the
 stack will not know about the MTU issue, and thus won't even think
 about fragmentation.  (Fragmentation happens if there is a link on
 the path that has smaller L3 MTU than the packet's sender - but in this
 scenario, the L3 endpoints assume 1500, while the L2 link cannot handle
 this.  Black hole).

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[c-nsp] High CPU Usage

2009-07-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
I have a 2600 doing some GRE tunnel aggregation with IPSEC and a
AIM-VPN. The CPU is consistently at 95%+, but none of the running
processes are using nearly that much CPU. Is there some other place I
should be looking?

#sh processes cpu sorted
CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/61%; one minute: 99%; five minutes: 98%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked  uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  70   163085876  24727077   6595 15.31% 16.49% 14.22%   0 IP Input
 14642276796   9771758   4326  8.24%  8.66%  7.46%   0 Crypto Support
 16938417520   7286822   5272  5.22%  4.94%  5.12%   0 Crypto PAS Proc
   621018268   2714504   7742  4.05%  4.99%  4.24%   0 Pool Manager
  54   65680  2206  29773  2.20%  0.71%  1.20%  66 SSH Process
 190 5281352   6682003790  0.48%  0.47%  0.45%   0 IP-EIGRP: HELLO
 121 1163120   7759419149  0.24%  0.16%  0.13%   0 RBSCP Background
  95  709328   1161174610  0.16%  0.07%  0.06%   0 CEF process
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Tom Sutherland
If you're trying to connect to the outside interface, be certain that
you aren't NAT'ing the ASA's public address to some inside host. The
one-to-one mapping overrides the ssh/http servers IIRC.

On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 10:05 -0400, Jonathan Brashear wrote:
 I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.  Originally 
 it was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot it began to allow 
 access via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not working.  I've verified that the 
 username/pass is correct(it works through the ASDM) and that SSH access is 
 allowed from the relevant IP range(I get to a password prompt), but it 
 refuses to accept known good passwords from multiple accounts.  It thinks the 
 password is bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into this issue 
 with other ASAs that are configured identically and I can login to the other 
 ASAs from the same terminal window so it shouldn't be something to do with my 
 terminal emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be happening?
 
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  214-642-4075 (cell)
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Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this time

2009-07-14 Thread Jared Mauch

Via a tac case and my account team.

Jared Mauch

On Jul 14, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:


Hi,

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:21:39PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:

   They are now claiming the site is fixed, but I'm asking for a RFO
and what their maint policy is on the website.  If my bank can tell
me when they do maint, I would hope that Cisco can.


Where are you asking for the RFO?  I have not found a way to contact  
the

folks responsible for breaking^Wrunning the WWW and FTP servers yet.

(And I have serious doubts that you'll get an answer...)

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 80, Issue 49

2009-07-14 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
The serial numbers can be found here:

http://www.whatsupgold.com/


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Dear friends
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   1. Re: Software Download Area is Unavailable at this time
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   2. Block URL ACCESS LIST (Mohammad Khalil)
   3. Re: multiple vlans on a port (Gert Doering)
   4. Re: Block URL ACCESS LIST (mas...@nexlinx.net.pk)
   5. Re: IPv6 iBGP Route Reflector (Steve Bertrand)
   6. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (Forrest, Michael E.)
   7. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk)
   8. Re: Maximum spannig tree instances (Geoffrey Pendery)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:56:48 +0200
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 To: Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk
 Cc: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net,Jared Mauch
ja...@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this
time
 Message-ID: 20090714085648.gd...@greenie.muc.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hi,

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
  But can I just make a recommendation to everyone here: next time you
go
  out to competitive tender, specify the nature of docs  software
  availability. List HTTP downloads without client software or
plugins
  as a mandatory requirement.

 While this is a nice idea to cause some pressure, I can't see it as
 overly realistic - if I have a router A that will fulfill everything
 that we need, and a router B that will only do 80% and at the same
 time costs 20% more, but has a better company web interface, I think
it's
 very unlikely that their web download thingie will be change our
 decision.

 (Besides, most competitors web sites and software download processes
are
 even worse)

 gert
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 Message-ID: blu102-w20d319d228a429d7f5b1f9fa...@phx.gbl
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 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:49:11 +0200
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 To: Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] multiple vlans on a port
 Message-ID: 20090714094911.gh...@greenie.muc.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hi,

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:38:23PM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
  Also, with 802.1q framing, you might run into fragmentation on
  the non-native VLANs. You may want to adjust the MTU on the virtual
  machines if Linux doesn't do it automatically.

 There are a few broken NIC cards on the Linux side that have issues
 with baby-jumbo packets (1500 + 4 byte for 802.1q header).  Decent
 gear - and that's what you want to use on a *server* - doesn't have
 any issues there.

 And, just to clarify: *If* you have MTU problems due to 802.1q
headers,
 you will not see fragmentation.  You'll see black-holing, because
the
 stack will not know about the MTU issue, and thus won't even think
 about fragmentation

Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:24:56AM -0500, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:
 At least in the case of the enterprise where I work, the whole point
 of MST is that it's a proper open standard, rather than one of those
 super scary Cisco Proprietary Protocols.

Nothing in (rapid) PVSTP is super scary cisco proprietary.

It's just logical thinking - you have VLANs, you have STP, you need to
combine them to make it work in a useful way.  Result: PVSTP.  

I was more than astonished to find that other vendors still ship boxes 
with single-STP, and sell this as a feature.

rant
MST is what comes out if vendor committees get together, and agree to
implement the least common determinator in the most complicated way.
/rant

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread sthaug
 We have found MST to be mostly pointless...
 
 Too much hassle, too little gain
 
 But then, we're a service provider environment, and there are hardly
 two VLANs that share the same topology - which maps very poorly to MST
 instances.  At the same time, there is a fairly high dynamic in adding
 and removing VLANs, which is *quite* painful with MST instance 
 mappings...

Depends on how you build your networks. If you build ring structures, I
can see how MST would be useful. We build ring structures but have chosen
the EAPS route instead.

 I just wish more vendors would see the light and implement rapid-PVSTP.

Rapid per VLAN spanning tree has scaling limitations in many environments.
Which is why some people go with MST instead.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [c-nsp] High CPU Usage

2009-07-14 Thread Ian MacKinnon
I haven't used a 2600 for a while, but I seem to remember they don't have a lot 
of grunt.

Your sh proc cpu shows 61% interrupt, there is a good guide for tracking down 
causes on the Cisco site somewhere fx: googles) 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_tech_note09186a00800a70f2.shtml


Check your interfaces for promiscuous mode, as that means every packet 
generates an interrupt.

Don't know if your IPSEC will be generating an interrupt when a packet hits the 
outgoing interface in order to do the encapsulation.

Ian



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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: 14 July 2009 15:43
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] High CPU Usage

I have a 2600 doing some GRE tunnel aggregation with IPSEC and a
AIM-VPN. The CPU is consistently at 95%+, but none of the running
processes are using nearly that much CPU. Is there some other place I
should be looking?

#sh processes cpu sorted
CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/61%; one minute: 99%; five minutes: 98%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked  uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  70   163085876  24727077   6595 15.31% 16.49% 14.22%   0 IP Input
 14642276796   9771758   4326  8.24%  8.66%  7.46%   0 Crypto Support
 16938417520   7286822   5272  5.22%  4.94%  5.12%   0 Crypto PAS Proc
   621018268   2714504   7742  4.05%  4.99%  4.24%   0 Pool Manager
  54   65680  2206  29773  2.20%  0.71%  1.20%  66 SSH Process
 190 5281352   6682003790  0.48%  0.47%  0.45%   0 IP-EIGRP: HELLO
 121 1163120   7759419149  0.24%  0.16%  0.13%   0 RBSCP Background
  95  709328   1161174610  0.16%  0.07%  0.06%   0 CEF process
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Re: [c-nsp] High CPU Usage

2009-07-14 Thread Roland Dobbins


On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote:

CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/61%; one minute: 99%; five  
minutes: 98%


It's the 61%, which indicates interrupt-driven CPU (corresponds with  
the high IP Input process %).


Packets being punted at a relatively high pps rate; do you have  
NetFlow enabled in order to characterize your traffic?  Is the AIM in  
fact handling your GRE tunnels, or is the GRE traffic being handed in  
software on the CPU?


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 05:03:44PM +0200, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
  I just wish more vendors would see the light and implement rapid-PVSTP.
 
 Rapid per VLAN spanning tree has scaling limitations in many environments.
 Which is why some people go with MST instead.

Usually they claim it's Cisco proprietary, MST is a proper standard
instead.

We have lots of customer setups with ~ 3-4 VLANs each, two of these connecting
to our gear (management network and external/production network) and the 
rest spread across a wild mix of different switch vendors, some of them 
not even getting MST right.  Fun to debug.  NOT.

MST seems too complex for an average coder to get right...  (it's definitely
too complex for your average network admin).

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Re: [c-nsp] High CPU Usage

2009-07-14 Thread Rodney Dunn
'sh ip traffic' and look for fragmentation issues.

The #1 cause of high ip input CPU in tunnel environments.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk827/tk369/technologies_white_paper09186a00800d6979.shtml

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:42:51AM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote:
 I have a 2600 doing some GRE tunnel aggregation with IPSEC and a
 AIM-VPN. The CPU is consistently at 95%+, but none of the running
 processes are using nearly that much CPU. Is there some other place I
 should be looking?
 
 #sh processes cpu sorted
 CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/61%; one minute: 99%; five minutes: 98%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked  uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   70   163085876  24727077   6595 15.31% 16.49% 14.22%   0 IP Input
  14642276796   9771758   4326  8.24%  8.66%  7.46%   0 Crypto Support
  16938417520   7286822   5272  5.22%  4.94%  5.12%   0 Crypto PAS Proc
621018268   2714504   7742  4.05%  4.99%  4.24%   0 Pool Manager
   54   65680  2206  29773  2.20%  0.71%  1.20%  66 SSH Process
  190 5281352   6682003790  0.48%  0.47%  0.45%   0 IP-EIGRP: HELLO
  121 1163120   7759419149  0.24%  0.16%  0.13%   0 RBSCP 
 Background
   95  709328   1161174610  0.16%  0.07%  0.06%   0 CEF process
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote:


On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:26:13AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:

But isn't that the whole point of MST?


We have found MST to be mostly pointless...

Too much hassle, too little gain


So do you just do rapid-pvst and limit which VLANs are allowed on all 
trunk ports?  I know you're not a fan of VTP, and I suppose this may be 
another reason.  Even with the trunks limiting which VLANs get through, 
VTP still creates all the vlans on all the switches, and in a PVST setup, 
they run a spanning tree instance for each VLAN, even if they aren't 
really participating in the VLAN.



two VLANs that share the same topology - which maps very poorly to MST
instances.  At the same time, there is a fairly high dynamic in adding
and removing VLANs, which is *quite* painful with MST instance
mappings...


I've wondered about that...if we were to move to MST, we're going to have 
to assign every VLAN to an MST instance, which could get messy.


Maybe it is time to just turn off VTP and manually create VLANs only where 
they're needed, in which case we'll only have to worry about the number of 
PVST instances on the central 6509s, as there's no way we'd run up to 128 
VLANs on a 3550.  We've actually never done VTP on the 6500s...only on the 
3550s.  I figured if VTP ever did blow up, I didn't want it blowing on the 
central switches...just the edges.



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Re: [c-nsp] High CPU Usage

2009-07-14 Thread masood
because it's interrupt level work the CPU is doing. you can try
profiling the CPU and see what it says.

can u get a couple of sh stacks and look at the interrupt level calls and
see which one is going up the most.

Regards,
Masood

 I have a 2600 doing some GRE tunnel aggregation with IPSEC and a
 AIM-VPN. The CPU is consistently at 95%+, but none of the running
 processes are using nearly that much CPU. Is there some other place I
 should be looking?

 #sh processes cpu sorted
 CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/61%; one minute: 99%; five minutes:
 98%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked  uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   70   163085876  24727077   6595 15.31% 16.49% 14.22%   0 IP Input
  14642276796   9771758   4326  8.24%  8.66%  7.46%   0 Crypto
 Support
  16938417520   7286822   5272  5.22%  4.94%  5.12%   0 Crypto PAS
 Proc
621018268   2714504   7742  4.05%  4.99%  4.24%   0 Pool
 Manager
   54   65680  2206  29773  2.20%  0.71%  1.20%  66 SSH Process
  190 5281352   6682003790  0.48%  0.47%  0.45%   0 IP-EIGRP:
 HELLO
  121 1163120   7759419149  0.24%  0.16%  0.13%   0 RBSCP
 Background
   95  709328   1161174610  0.16%  0.07%  0.06%   0 CEF process
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Geoffrey Pendery
Like Gert, I much prefer to have the system running un-needed
instances as the tradeoff for not having to design and manage instance
topology, and couple VLANs together, causing TCNs/blocking on VLANs
which haven't experienced any disruption.

I've wondered about that...if we were to move to MST, we're going to
have to assign every VLAN to an MST instance, which could get messy.

That's exactly why I was warning about the 16/64 instance limit.  This
was my mindset when moving from PVST to MST, and I suspect there are
many others out there thinking this way.  But if you have more than 64
VLANs, you can't do that.  You'll have to look at their topology and
try to map them into a limited number of instances.  Most of the IOS
docs I've found say 16, not 64, but I have yet to test that out in the
lab.

Gert,

I think we mostly agree, and my sarcasm about the scary proprietary
bit didn't come across.
It's our management/architects here who are vehemently against the
Cisco Proprietary stuff; I just live with their edicts.
But then again, your statement that RPVST isn't proprietary is wrong,
and the statement that it's not scary tells me you've never tried to
plug it into an Enterasys core...
; )



-Geoff



On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jon Lewisjle...@lewis.org wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:26:13AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:

 But isn't that the whole point of MST?

 We have found MST to be mostly pointless...

 Too much hassle, too little gain

 So do you just do rapid-pvst and limit which VLANs are allowed on all trunk
 ports?  I know you're not a fan of VTP, and I suppose this may be another
 reason.  Even with the trunks limiting which VLANs get through, VTP still
 creates all the vlans on all the switches, and in a PVST setup, they run a
 spanning tree instance for each VLAN, even if they aren't really
 participating in the VLAN.

 two VLANs that share the same topology - which maps very poorly to MST
 instances.  At the same time, there is a fairly high dynamic in adding
 and removing VLANs, which is *quite* painful with MST instance
 mappings...

 I've wondered about that...if we were to move to MST, we're going to have to
 assign every VLAN to an MST instance, which could get messy.

 Maybe it is time to just turn off VTP and manually create VLANs only where
 they're needed, in which case we'll only have to worry about the number of
 PVST instances on the central 6509s, as there's no way we'd run up to 128
 VLANs on a 3550.  We've actually never done VTP on the 6500s...only on the
 3550s.  I figured if VTP ever did blow up, I didn't want it blowing on the
 central switches...just the edges.


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Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Tillinger, Steve
Have you tried 'pix' as the username?


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Griffin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:16 AM
To: Jonathan Brashear
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

sorry, location = local :)

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Nick Griffin
nick.jon.grif...@gmail.comwrote:

 Make sure ssh is setup for location authentication and possibly 
 regenerate your ssh keys:
 this is what I usually do:

 crypto key generate rsa general modul 2048

 aaa authentication telnet console LOCAL

 aaa authentication ssh console LOCAL

 aaa authentication http console LOCAL

 aaa authentication serial console LOCAL



 Nick Griffin, CCIE #17381
 Systems Consultant Alexander Open Systems Direct 479.899.6830 ext 2609

 AOS Scheduling - 417.888.2675

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Brashear  
 jonathan.brash...@hq.speakeasy.net wrote:

 I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.
  Originally it was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot 
 it began to allow access via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not 
 working.  I've verified that the username/pass is correct(it works 
 through the ASDM) and that SSH access is allowed from the relevant IP

 range(I get to a password prompt), but it refuses to accept known 
 good passwords from multiple accounts.  It thinks the password is 
 bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into this issue with 
 other ASAs that are configured identically and I can login to the 
 other ASAs from the same terminal window so it shouldn't be something

 to do with my terminal emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be
happening?

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread sthaug
 MST is what comes out if vendor committees get together, and agree to
 implement the least common determinator in the most complicated way.

Which is part of the attraction of something like EAPS: It may have its
warts, but compared to MST it's extremely simple. I assume REP would
offer the same simplicity...

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:


I've wondered about that...if we were to move to MST, we're going to
have to assign every VLAN to an MST instance, which could get messy.

That's exactly why I was warning about the 16/64 instance limit.  This
was my mindset when moving from PVST to MST, and I suspect there are
many others out there thinking this way.  But if you have more than 64
VLANs, you can't do that.  You'll have to look at their topology and


That's not what I meant.  I just meant we'd have to decide which instance 
(of likely just a few of them) to assign every VLAN to...as every VLAN has 
to be assigned to some instance.  I should setup a lab of switches again 
and play around with MST.  IIRC, the docs I've read about MST on cisco.com 
generally split up the VLANs between MST instances 2 and 3.


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:16:57AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:26:13AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
 But isn't that the whole point of MST?
 
 We have found MST to be mostly pointless...
 
 Too much hassle, too little gain
 
 So do you just do rapid-pvst and limit which VLANs are allowed on all 
 trunk ports?  

Yes.

Most of our VLANs are actually quite short reach, that is, they
are distributed like this

 ISP Router A (6500) == ISP Switch A (6500) -- CustomerX Switch A -- Hosts
 |||| |
 ISP Router B (6500) == ISP Switch B (3550) -- CustomerX Switch B -- Hosts

(leave off row B for non-VRRP customers.  Double lines are trunks,
single lines are single-VLAN access ports)

There's an insane amount of switches and trunks, but most VLANs really
span only 3 (standard case) or 6 (HSRP/VRRP) devices.


The trunks between ISP Router and ISP Switch are pre-configured,
the links between ISP Switch and customer switch get configured
on-demand (from the VLAN range designated to ISP Switch A)


 I know you're not a fan of VTP, and I suppose this may be 
 another reason.  Even with the trunks limiting which VLANs get through, 
 VTP still creates all the vlans on all the switches, and in a PVST setup, 
 they run a spanning tree instance for each VLAN, even if they aren't 
 really participating in the VLAN.

Yes, this would kill us immediately.  ISP Switch A could, theoretically,
have about 350 active VLANs (one VLAN per port, 7 blades x 48 ports),
while ISP Switch B would choke on more than 64...

ISP Router A is linked to 4 different 6500 distribution switches, and
could end up with more than 1000 active VLANs (in reality it doesn't, 
due to physical space constraints in this building :) ).


 two VLANs that share the same topology - which maps very poorly to MST
 instances.  At the same time, there is a fairly high dynamic in adding
 and removing VLANs, which is *quite* painful with MST instance
 mappings...
 
 I've wondered about that...if we were to move to MST, we're going to have 
 to assign every VLAN to an MST instance, which could get messy.
 
 Maybe it is time to just turn off VTP and manually create VLANs only where 
 they're needed, in which case we'll only have to worry about the number of 
 PVST instances on the central 6509s, as there's no way we'd run up to 128 
 VLANs on a 3550.  

Yep, this is what we do.  VLANs are really only created where they are
needed (some ranges are pre-created, others on-demand).

switchport trunk allowed vlan *ADD* 1234

is one of our favourites, tho... :-)

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote:


Yep, this is what we do.  VLANs are really only created where they are
needed (some ranges are pre-created, others on-demand).

switchport trunk allowed vlan *ADD* 1234

is one of our favourites, tho... :-)


I've been reluctant to roll that out on all the trunks due to the damage 
that could be caused if someone got careless and dropped the 'add' while 
adding a new VLAN to a trunk.


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Re: [c-nsp] High CPU Usage

2009-07-14 Thread Andrea Montefusco

Jeremy Parr wrote:

I have a 2600 doing some GRE tunnel aggregation with IPSEC and a
AIM-VPN. The CPU is consistently at 95%+, but none of the running
processes are using nearly that much CPU. Is there some other place I
should be looking?


If you have ethernet interface(s) in trunk, check that (on the switch side)
only the right VLAN are enabled on switch ports.
In Catalyst you should have, under the trunk port, an instruction like

switchport trunk allowed vlan x,y,z

where x,y,z are the VLAN id defined/usefule in the router side.
Otherwise all the broadcast traffic of every VLAN
hits anyway the router and the CPU climbs.

  *am*

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:51:26AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote:
 
 Yep, this is what we do.  VLANs are really only created where they are
 needed (some ranges are pre-created, others on-demand).
 
 switchport trunk allowed vlan *ADD* 1234
 
 is one of our favourites, tho... :-)
 
 I've been reluctant to roll that out on all the trunks due to the damage 
 that could be caused if someone got careless and dropped the 'add' while 
 adding a new VLAN to a trunk.

Yes :(

For most trunks, we use pre-configured ranges (vlan 100-999 go to 
dist switch 1, 1000-1499 to dist switch 2, 1500-1999 to dist switch 3),
but occasionally we need to do an odd one - and indeed, mistakes happen.

Mmmmh.  If one does TACACS command authentication, one could investigate
whether disallowing the without-add/-delete form of the command via
TACACS works...

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

 Rapid per VLAN spanning tree has scaling limitations in many environments.
 Which is why some people go with MST instead.

we hit the PVST limits so moved to RPVST..once we
hit those limits we're sure to be going to MST ;-)

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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,
 There's not as of yet.  OSPF, RIP, EIGRP, yes, BGP no. 

ISIS  ? stares blankly at the development team.

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[c-nsp] c877 and ntp oddness

2009-07-14 Thread David Freedman
Have a bizarre NTP issue with 877 routers running 12.4(T) train.

Have a simple network setup such:


   [HUB]---[S2 NTPD]--[S1 NTPD]
  /  |  \
[S] [S] [S]


A private hub/spoke network where hub is 7200 and spokes are the 877
routers in question.

Connected to the hub router is a freebsd box running latest build ntpd
(recently upgraded) which is happily serving other clients as a stratum
2 box.

A large percentage of the 87x routers will sync happily with the S2 box
and stay in sync with it for their lifetimes.

a small percentage sync initially but then lose sync after 10 minutes.

On the happy boxes:


#sh ntp assoc

address ref clock st  when  poll reach  delay  offset   disp
*~S2   S1 228   512  377 8.50.13 7.5


on the sad boxes:

#sh ntp assoc

addressref clock   st   when   poll reach  delay  offset   disp
~S2   S12 43 64   377  0.000 134559. 1938.5


#sh ntp assoc det
S2 configured, insane, invalid, stratum 2
ref ID S1  , time CE071C7B.D722D2EE (16:02:19.840 BST Tue Jul 14 2009)
our mode client, peer mode server, our poll intvl 64, peer poll intvl 64
root delay 0.00 msec, root disp 15.53, reach 377, sync dist 2.38
delay 0.00 msec, offset 134559.7237 msec, dispersion 1938.59
precision 2**18, version 4
org time CE071F24.C3B751E7 (16:13:40.764 BST Tue Jul 14 2009)
rec time CE071E9D.B07AD5A3 (16:11:25.689 BST Tue Jul 14 2009)
xmt time CE071E9D.A8FD405C (16:11:25.660 BST Tue Jul 14 2009)
filtdelay = 0.020.050.020.000.000.000.000.00
filtoffset =  135.08  134.81  134.550.000.000.000.000.00
filterror = 0.000.000.00   16.00   16.00   16.00   16.00   16.00
minpoll = 6, maxpoll = 10


*Jul 14 15:45:47.737: NTP recv pkt on v4 socket, pak = 0x83E79C78.
*Jul 14 15:45:47.737: NTP message received from S2 on interface 'Dialer0':
*Jul 14 15:45:47.737:
 NTP Header:
   Leap = 00, Version = 4, Mode = 4,
   Stratum = 2,
   Poll Interval = 6,
   Precision = -18,
   Root Delay = 0.82,
   Root Dispersion = 0.1755,
   refid = S1,
   Last update reftime = 3456574670.3602360983,
   Originated time = 3456575147.3064944142,
   Received time = 3456575152.3162200771,
   Transmit time = 3456575152.3162396127.



To get it back, I simply remove the clock-period and reconfigure the
ntp server and I get another 10 mins of working ntp.


This is only happening to a very small percentage of routers from a new
batch recently purchased, I'm wondering if the clock-period
calculation is wrong?

Stuff that is the same between working/nonworking routers

- clock/timezone config
- latency and network quality between router and S2 server
- receipt of NTP packets (debug ntp pack shows *all* are being received
and processed so not an acl/filtering issue)

bugtool seems to be broken when searching for keyword NTP in all
12.4(T) train, I've reported this (just gives me blank screen in
multiple browsers), release notes do not show anything of interest.

Anybody with good NTP foo able to look at this and immediately
spot something obvious? or could it be there is a hardware problem in
this batch?

Footnotes:

- Upgraded to 12.4(22)T where clock-period is no longer configurable by
operator, same problem occurs.

- Only seems to affect a small percentage of 877 routers,
878s, 1800s , 2800s seem to be fine


Dave.

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[c-nsp] CE routes

2009-07-14 Thread harbor235
I was just reading best practices for MPLS implementations regarding CE to
CE connectivity issues,
specifically, CE to CE pings. The document stated that redistributing
connected PE routes into BGP was
the preferred method to ensure CE to CE ping success as well as other
connectivity issues. This will inject
the route for the PE to CE interface into BGP.I am not sure I agree,  why
not explicitly define which networks to advertise
in the IGP, an IGP in MPLS networks is supposed to hold all infrastructure
routes anyway. Are these interfaces considered
infrstructure or customer interfaces? One reason may be to reduce the number
of infrastructure routes in the IGP because of the
potential for many CE to PE interfaces, let BGP handle the large number of
routes?

I am curious which method is employed in the wild, also I am not sure all
connected routes
should be advertised from the PE, e.g. management/infrastructure interfaces
etc ...

What are your thoughts and how is it being done?

mike
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[c-nsp] WAAS and minimum latency

2009-07-14 Thread Tim Durack
Anyone got figures on the *minimum* latency the various WAN accelerators can
improve on?

I ask as I have a customer with a couple of sites connected via GigE. RTT
for SiteA - SiteB is around 3ms. Migrating services between sites has
reduced performance for some users (appears that SMB/CIFS is most affected.)

I'm looking to see if I can fix things with WAAS, just not sure they are
really designed for this scenario (I'm not a fan of WAAS, but if it fixes a
problem...)

Thanks,

Tim:
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

2009-07-14 Thread Jonathan Brashear
Nick nailed it, thanks. :)  The tech that built this firewall missed this line:
aaa authentication ssh console LOCAL 


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-Original Message-
From: Nick Griffin [mailto:nick.jon.grif...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:16 AM
To: Jonathan Brashear
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA ssh difficulties

Make sure ssh is setup for location authentication and possibly regenerate your 
ssh keys:

this is what I usually do:


crypto key generate rsa general modul 2048

aaa authentication telnet console LOCAL

aaa authentication ssh console LOCAL

aaa authentication http console LOCAL

aaa authentication serial console LOCAL






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Direct 479.899.6830 ext 2609 
AOS Scheduling - 417.888.2675

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Brashear 
jonathan.brash...@hq.speakeasy.net wrote:


I'm a bit stumped on an issue I'm having with a particular 5505.  
Originally it was inaccessible via ASDM or SSH, but after a reboot it began to 
allow access via ASDM.  However, SSH is still not working.  I've verified that 
the username/pass is correct(it works through the ASDM) and that SSH access is 
allowed from the relevant IP range(I get to a password prompt), but it refuses 
to accept known good passwords from multiple accounts.  It thinks the password 
is bad, but only when done via SSH.  I haven't run into this issue with other 
ASAs that are configured identically and I can login to the other ASAs from the 
same terminal window so it shouldn't be something to do with my terminal 
emulation.  Any thoughts on why this may be happening?

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:

 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:

  I've wondered about that...if we were to move to MST, we're going to
 have to assign every VLAN to an MST instance, which could get messy.

 That's exactly why I was warning about the 16/64 instance limit.  This
 was my mindset when moving from PVST to MST, and I suspect there are
 many others out there thinking this way.  But if you have more than 64
 VLANs, you can't do that.  You'll have to look at their topology and


 That's not what I meant.  I just meant we'd have to decide which instance
 (of likely just a few of them) to assign every VLAN to...as every VLAN has
 to be assigned to some instance.  I should setup a lab of switches again and
 play around with MST.  IIRC, the docs I've read about MST on 
 cisco.comgenerally split up the VLANs between MST instances 2 and 3.


We left everything in MST0, and pull a few VLANs into MST2 for
load-balancing reasons. Core-1 is root for MST0, Core-2 is root for MST2.
Works for a simple topology, where every switch has redundant links back to
a couple of core switches. Not sure it would be so great for the kind of
topologies being discussed here.

However, as soon as I want to add another VLAN to MST2, I have touch *every*
switch in the MST region. And during the process MST is inconsistent -
either I adjust the two core switches first, and every edge switch flips
over to MST0, or I do every edge switch first, core last. Either way it's a
lot of STP fun.

I'm going to guess the standards body that came up with MST doesn't do too
much network configuration work...

Tim:
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Re: [c-nsp] VSS out-of-band mgmt

2009-07-14 Thread Alasdair McWilliam
We have VSS deployed and it's management interface is on a mgmt-vrf.  
So far everything that needs a source interface seems to work,  
although I've not actually configured syslog yet, TACACS is now vrf  
aware. You have to define a specific AAA server group. Eg:


tacacs-server host 1.1.1.1 key myacskey
tacacs-server directed-broadcast
ip tacacs source-interface VlanXYZ

Then:

aaa group server tacacs+ ACS-GROUP-NAME
  server 1.1.1.1
  ip vrf forwarding mgmt-vrf
!

aaa authentication login default group ACS-GROUP-NAME local-case

I will note that you have to define each server with the tacacs-server  
command before you add it to the group otherwise it throws an error.



Al


On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:47, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:


Yes, a management VRF will do exactly what you want :-)


Perhaps things have improved, but at one time for the 6500
platform certain functions could only be performed in the
native(? is that the right word) context, and you needed
to place all the rest of your traffic/interfaces in a VRF
leaving the native context for management (sort of the
reverse of your proposal, instead have a Internet VRF
for everything except for management).

Have the latest IOS versions eliminated those challenges
on the 6500?

Gary


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread sthaug
  switchport trunk allowed vlan *ADD* 1234
 
  is one of our favourites, tho... :-)
 
 I've been reluctant to roll that out on all the trunks due to the damage 
 that could be caused if someone got careless and dropped the 'add' while 
 adding a new VLAN to a trunk.

With suitable TACACS verification of commands you can make *only*
the following available:

switchport trunk allowed vlan none
switchport trunk allowed vlan add ...
switchport trunk allowed vlan remove ...

which takes care of forgetting the add keyword. Done at the company
we're in the process of merging with, works great.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [c-nsp] VSS out-of-band mgmt

2009-07-14 Thread Holemans Wim
Just implemented it based on an example I received yesterday ; we don't
deploy tacacs, so no problem there. Syslog doesn't work anymore for the
moment but I didn't check yet if it is vrf aware. 

Thanks for everyone who answered my question. If I tried out the syslog
config, I'll share the result on this list.

Wim Holemans


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From: Alasdair McWilliam [mailto:alasda...@gmail.com] 
Sent: dinsdag 14 juli 2009 19:33
To: Buhrmaster, Gary
Cc: Holemans Wim; Cisco NSP
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VSS out-of-band mgmt

We have VSS deployed and it's management interface is on a mgmt-vrf.  
So far everything that needs a source interface seems to work,  
although I've not actually configured syslog yet, TACACS is now vrf  
aware. You have to define a specific AAA server group. Eg:

tacacs-server host 1.1.1.1 key myacskey
tacacs-server directed-broadcast
ip tacacs source-interface VlanXYZ

Then:

aaa group server tacacs+ ACS-GROUP-NAME
   server 1.1.1.1
   ip vrf forwarding mgmt-vrf
!

aaa authentication login default group ACS-GROUP-NAME local-case

I will note that you have to define each server with the tacacs-server  
command before you add it to the group otherwise it throws an error.


Al


On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:47, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:

 Yes, a management VRF will do exactly what you want :-)

 Perhaps things have improved, but at one time for the 6500
 platform certain functions could only be performed in the
 native(? is that the right word) context, and you needed
 to place all the rest of your traffic/interfaces in a VRF
 leaving the native context for management (sort of the
 reverse of your proposal, instead have a Internet VRF
 for everything except for management).

 Have the latest IOS versions eliminated those challenges
 on the 6500?

 Gary

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Re: [c-nsp] VSS out-of-band mgmt

2009-07-14 Thread Holemans Wim
Tried syslog vrf awareness and yes :
logging host 143.169.x.y vrf management
did the trick

we are running 122-33.SXI1  on this VSS cluster.

Wim Holemans


-Original Message-
From: Alasdair McWilliam [mailto:alasda...@gmail.com] 
Sent: dinsdag 14 juli 2009 19:33
To: Buhrmaster, Gary
Cc: Holemans Wim; Cisco NSP
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VSS out-of-band mgmt

We have VSS deployed and it's management interface is on a mgmt-vrf.  
So far everything that needs a source interface seems to work,  
although I've not actually configured syslog yet, TACACS is now vrf  
aware. You have to define a specific AAA server group. Eg:

tacacs-server host 1.1.1.1 key myacskey
tacacs-server directed-broadcast
ip tacacs source-interface VlanXYZ

Then:

aaa group server tacacs+ ACS-GROUP-NAME
   server 1.1.1.1
   ip vrf forwarding mgmt-vrf
!

aaa authentication login default group ACS-GROUP-NAME local-case

I will note that you have to define each server with the tacacs-server  
command before you add it to the group otherwise it throws an error.


Al


On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:47, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:

 Yes, a management VRF will do exactly what you want :-)

 Perhaps things have improved, but at one time for the 6500
 platform certain functions could only be performed in the
 native(? is that the right word) context, and you needed
 to place all the rest of your traffic/interfaces in a VRF
 leaving the native context for management (sort of the
 reverse of your proposal, instead have a Internet VRF
 for everything except for management).

 Have the latest IOS versions eliminated those challenges
 on the 6500?

 Gary

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Tim Durack wrote:


We left everything in MST0, and pull a few VLANs into MST2 for
load-balancing reasons. Core-1 is root for MST0, Core-2 is root for MST2.
Works for a simple topology, where every switch has redundant links back to
a couple of core switches. Not sure it would be so great for the kind of
topologies being discussed here.


The cisco examples I saw say to leave MST0 empty and use MST1 and MST2 for 
VLANs.


This concerns me though:

 Complete any MST configuration involving a large number of either
 existing or new logical VLAN ports during a maintenance window because
 the complete MST database gets reinitialized for any incremental change
 (such as adding new VLANs to instances or moving VLANs across instances).

Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for other 
VLANs in that MST instance?


The topology I have is actually 2 core switches with a bunch of edge 
switches redundantly uplinked to both cores.



However, as soon as I want to add another VLAN to MST2, I have touch *every*
switch in the MST region. And during the process MST is inconsistent -
either I adjust the two core switches first, and every edge switch flips
over to MST0, or I do every edge switch first, core last. Either way it's a
lot of STP fun.


That sounds like another argument for rPVST and turning off VTP to avoid 
hitting the PVST instance limit on the less capable switches.


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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread Nick Griffin
Do you have any routers/layer 3 devices on the inside of the firewalls, the
weighted GRE tunnels always work well for this.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Munoz, Jeff jeff.mu...@swinc.com wrote:

 Hey guys, I have two main sites (site A and site B) and one remote site
 (site C).  Sites A and B have a metroethernet connection between them.
  Remote site C has an IPsec tunnel back to site A.  I'd like to setup
 failover so in case site A's ASA is down the remote site C ASA sends the
 interesting traffic down the site B IPsec tunnel.  Unfortunately, it will
 always match the tunnel to site A since the phase 2 access lists have the
 same source/destinations.  Any ideas on how I can do this?

 Thanks!

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Geoffrey Pendery
 Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for other
 VLANs in that MST instance?

Yes.  We've verified this.
A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
only VLAN 30.
VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning, forwarding.


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 17:56 +0200, Thomas Habets wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Peter Rathlev wrote:
  My bold guess would be that the system limit for number of STP
  instances is 1/13000 total virtual ports (RPVST/PVST).
 
 10'000 is what the documentation said, yes
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/ns340/ns394/ns50/net_design_guidance0900aecd806fe4bb.pdf
 
  Whether having 1800+ STP instances on the same switch is a good idea
  i something completely different. :-)
 
 Not STP instances. 48 ports of aggregation with 50 VLANs will get you
 well over the virtual port limit. It's not STP on 1800+ VLANs, and
 not unheard of.

That's for virtual ports yes. But that's not the same as STP instances.

As my lab test shows you can easily exceed 1800 RSTP instances. I kept
each of two modules on 1799 virtual ports, but with different VLANs on
each. Having more STP instances than VLANs would of course be difficuly,
so i guess the limit is around 4000 instances.

That's for RSTP. I'm afraid I don't know much about MST.

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net wrote:

  Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for other
  VLANs in that MST instance?

 Yes.  We've verified this.
 A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
 only VLAN 30.
 VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
 instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
 The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning, forwarding.


...and if that doesn't make you nervous, you probably shouldn't be running
spanning-tree...

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[c-nsp] Disallowing sw tru all vlan X w/o add or remove (was: Maximum spannig tree instances)

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 18:05 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
 Mmmmh.  If one does TACACS command authentication, one could
 investigate whether disallowing the without-add/-delete form of the
 command via TACACS works...

It does indeed. We use something similar to the configuration below for
operators who can do simple maintenance chores.

group = operator {
default service = deny
login = PAM
service = exec {
priv-lvl = 15
}
...
cmd = switchport {
permit ^trunk allowed vlan add 1[0-9][0-9] cr$
permit ^trunk allowed vlan remove 1[0-9][0-9] cr$
...
}
...
}

Regards,
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Clinton Work


You need to enable MAC reduction (extended vlan range) if you want to 
support all 4096 STP instances on a 6500.  I have personally seen over 
3000+ STP instances running using PVST+ with MAC reduction enabled.  MAC 
reduction will steal bits from the bridge priority in order create 4096 
unique bridge IDs.  The CPU load with PVST+ compared with MST is  vary 
dramatic.  As long as you stay away from the older 10/100 Ethernet cards 
PVST/ RPVST should scale fairly well.  I have seen PVST+ start to fail 
when you reach 75,000 virtual ports and MST can easily handle over 
100,000 virtual ports.


Clinton. 


a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:

regarding maximum STP instances... I believe theres a platform limit
of 1024 because of the MAC to VLAN bridge mapping on the platform -
but, from the values above, you can see that virtual ports would
hit you quite quickly without appropriate control of the VLANs

alan
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Tim Durack wrote:
 I'm going to guess the standards body that came up with MST doesn't do too
 much network configuration work...

Real Networks[tm] have Maintenance Windows[tm].

Dunno whether anybody else remembers bay networks routers that had to
be rebooted(!) to accept configuration changes.  At my university, monday
morning was network maintenance, that is apply all config changes that
have piled up during the week, reboot, pray...

(Did I mention that I don't like MST? :) )

gert

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:


Yes.  We've verified this.
A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
only VLAN 30.
VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning, forwarding.


Well...screw that.  That would mean only making MST changes during 
maintenance windows.  I guess it's time to turn off VTP and stick with 
pvst.


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[c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience at tacwebsur...@cisco.com (was: several heart-felt flames regarding the mess that is the Cisco.com download experience)

2009-07-14 Thread Justin Shore
I received this message from Cisco yesterday.  I found the timing to be 
rather ironic.  I've munged the survey URL; I'm going to fill that out. 
 I would encourage EVERYONE to participate in this process by sending a 
letter to tacwebsur...@cisco.com to let them know how they really feel 
about the quality of download experience that can be had on cisco.com.


Justin



Dear Justin,

Last Friday, you visited Cisco Systems' on-line Technical Support  
Documentation Website. Our records show that you accessed the following:


tools.cisco.com/support/downloads/go/DownloadImage.x

Customer loyalty is Cisco's top priority. To ensure that we continually 
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Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience at tacwebsur...@cisco.com (was: several heart-felt flames regarding the mess that is the Cisco.com download experience)

2009-07-14 Thread Jared Mauch
I'm having a call with some people in a few minutes, I will share what  
is feasible to share once it's completed.


- Jared

On Jul 14, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Justin Shore wrote:

I received this message from Cisco yesterday.  I found the timing to  
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that out.  I would encourage EVERYONE to participate in this process  
by sending a letter to tacwebsur...@cisco.com to let them know how  
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote:


Real Networks[tm] have Maintenance Windows[tm].


Yeah...but those should be for actual maintenance...software upgrades, 
major config changes, cable grooming, etc.  Not for basic tasks like 
turning up a new customer.  Sorry, we can't provision your connection 
until next Tuesday's scheduled maintenance window.


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Re: [c-nsp] CE routes

2009-07-14 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
CE-PE subnets are part of VRF and thus cannot be inserted into the core IGP,
only in MP-BGP. It's way easier (and more scalable) to redistribute them
than to list them in the per-VRF BGP configuration.

Ivan
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: harbor235 [mailto:harbor...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] CE routes
 
 I was just reading best practices for MPLS implementations 
 regarding CE to CE connectivity issues, specifically, CE to 
 CE pings. The document stated that redistributing connected 
 PE routes into BGP was the preferred method to ensure CE to 
 CE ping success as well as other connectivity issues. This 
 will inject the route for the PE to CE interface into BGP.I 
 am not sure I agree,  why not explicitly define which 
 networks to advertise in the IGP, an IGP in MPLS networks is 
 supposed to hold all infrastructure routes anyway. Are these 
 interfaces considered infrstructure or customer interfaces? 
 One reason may be to reduce the number of infrastructure 
 routes in the IGP because of the potential for many CE to PE 
 interfaces, let BGP handle the large number of routes?
 
 I am curious which method is employed in the wild, also I am 
 not sure all connected routes should be advertised from the 
 PE, e.g. management/infrastructure interfaces etc ...
 
 What are your thoughts and how is it being done?
 
 mike
 
 

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Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience at tacwebsur...@cisco.com

2009-07-14 Thread Justin Shore
You might Google for a list of negative adjectives to keep on hand for 
the call.  If you can't find a list online I'm sure you know some people 
who can help contribute to one just for this occasion.


Justin


Jared Mauch wrote:
I'm having a call with some people in a few minutes, I will share what 
is feasible to share once it's completed.


- Jared


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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread David Prall
IKE Keepalives and Reverse Route Injection are typical solutions for routers
with IPSec tunnels. I see that both are supported on the ASA. With RRI, the
route is installed only when the IPSec tunnel is up. I think IKE Keepalives
and using two peer's within a single crypto-map will handle this correctly.
When the first peer fails, the second peer will be established and the route
will be installed to use the second peer address via RRI.

David

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 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Griffin
 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:21 PM
 To: Munoz, Jeff
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover
 
 Do you have any routers/layer 3 devices on the inside of the firewalls,
 the
 weighted GRE tunnels always work well for this.
 
 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Munoz, Jeff jeff.mu...@swinc.com
 wrote:
 
  Hey guys, I have two main sites (site A and site B) and one remote
 site
  (site C).  Sites A and B have a metroethernet connection between
 them.
   Remote site C has an IPsec tunnel back to site A.  I'd like to setup
  failover so in case site A's ASA is down the remote site C ASA sends
 the
  interesting traffic down the site B IPsec tunnel.  Unfortunately, it
 will
  always match the tunnel to site A since the phase 2 access lists have
 the
  same source/destinations.  Any ideas on how I can do this?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Jeff
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Re: [c-nsp] Disallowing sw tru all vlan X w/o add or remove (was: Maximum spannig tree instances)

2009-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:40:17PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 18:05 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
  Mmmmh.  If one does TACACS command authentication, one could
  investigate whether disallowing the without-add/-delete form of the
  command via TACACS works...
 
 It does indeed. We use something similar to the configuration below for
 operators who can do simple maintenance chores.

Cool.

We're currently not doing TACACS command authorization, but I might
be tempted to introduce that :-)

Now: what happens if the TACACS server is unavailable?  The way we 
currently run the shop is there is a local username configured as 
fallback if TACACS doesn't respond - and people know that they get 
slapped if they use this user without good reason.

How would command authorization work in that case?

... it's not unheard-of that router configuration is direly needed to
repair a broken network connection *to* the TACACS Server, so this
problem must be known to other folks as well :-)

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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread david raistrick

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Jon Lewis wrote:


Real Networks[tm] have Maintenance Windows[tm].


new customer.  Sorry, we can't provision your connection until next 
Tuesday's scheduled maintenance window.



Not to mention that customers even of Real Networks don't like facility 
wide traffic blips every single week.   What would happen is that my 
(former) bosses would put the contract on the table and say you WILL 
postpone your maintenance until it fits into our schedule 6 weeks from 
now.




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Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experienceat tacwebsur...@cisco.com

2009-07-14 Thread Scott Granados

Right now we need a special character that shows someone flipping the bird!


:)

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Shore jus...@justinshore.com

To: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net
Cc: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de; christ...@automatick.net; 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download 
experienceat tacwebsur...@cisco.com



You might Google for a list of negative adjectives to keep on hand for the 
call.  If you can't find a list online I'm sure you know some people who 
can help contribute to one just for this occasion.


Justin


Jared Mauch wrote:
I'm having a call with some people in a few minutes, I will share what is 
feasible to share once it's completed.


- Jared


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[c-nsp] AIR-LAP1131AG-E-K9 and AIR-WLC2106-K9

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Yerofyeyev
Hello,

We have a difficulties connecting AIR-LAP1131AG-E-K9 to AIR-WLC2106-K9 ,
probably becouse of  ETSI CNFG of AP. What do you think , is it possible
to configure AP in the way to behave as FCC CNFG ?

Some debug capwap error from controller and AP

controller:
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 36
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 40
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 44
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 48
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 52
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 56
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 60
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 64
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 100
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 104
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 108
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 112
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.497: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 116
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.500: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 132
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.500: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 136
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90
*Jul 14 21:28:15.500: 00:1d:71:e1:76:90 Received an unsupported channel 140
for slot 1 from AP 00:1D:71:E1:76:90


ap:
*Jul 14 21:28:28.789: %CAPWAP-5-CHANGED: CAPWAP changed state to DISCOVERY
*Jul 14 21:28:28.790: %CAPWAP-5-CHANGED: CAPWAP changed state to DISCOVERY
*Jul 14 21:28:28.802: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state
to administratively down
*Jul 14 21:28:28.814: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state
to up
*Jul 14 21:28:28.814: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio1, changed state
to up
*Jul 14 21:28:28.815: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state
to down
*Jul 14 21:28:28.816: CAPWAP_DETAIL: Vendor specific payload validated.
*Jul 14 21:28:28.816: CAPWAP_DETAIL: Vendor specific payload validated.
*Jul 14 21:28:28.848: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state
to up
*Jul 14 21:28:28.876: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio1, changed state
to up
*Jul 14 21:28:28.907: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state
to up
*Jul 14 21:28:38.830: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Go join a capwap controller
*Jul 14 21:28:39.000: %CAPWAP-5-DTLSREQSEND: DTLS connection request sent
peer_ip: 172.16.3.2 peer_port: 5246
*Jul 14 21:28:39.001: %CAPWAP-5-CHANGED: CAPWAP changed state to
*Jul 14 21:28:40.650: CAPWAP_DETAIL: Dtls Event = 39 Capwap State = 3.
*Jul 14 21:28:40.650: %CAPWAP-5-DTLSREQSUCC: DTLS connection created
sucessfully peer_ip: 172.16.3.2 peer_port: 5246
*Jul 14 21:28:40.652: %CAPWAP-5-SENDJOIN: sending Join Request to 172.16.3.2
*Jul 14 21:28:40.652: %CAPWAP-5-CHANGED: CAPWAP changed state to JOIN
*Jul 14 21:28:40.658: CAPWAP_DETAIL: Vendor specific payload validated.
*Jul 14 21:28:40.734: %CAPWAP-5-CHANGED: CAPWAP changed state to CFG
*Jul 14 21:28:40.734: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Starting config timer
*Jul 14 21:28:40.741: %DTLS-5-ALERT: Received WARNING : Close notify alert
from 172.16.3.2
*Jul 14 21:28:40.741: %DTLS-5-PEER_DISCONNECT: Peer 172.16.3.2 has closed
connection.
*Jul 14 21:28:40.742: %DTLS-5-SEND_ALERT: Send WARNING : Close notify Alert
to 172.16.3.2:5246
*Jul 14 21:28:40.742: CAPWAP_DETAIL: Dtls Event = 38 Capwap State = 8.



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[c-nsp] Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-14 Thread James M. Wininger
Is anyone on the list running the Cisco 12000 Series routers with XR? We
have a couple of these in our network and are having a few issues with them.

Specifically the line cards will reboot for some unknown reason
(12000-SIP-501). We recently replaced one of the cards and the new hardware
(6mo old) is doing the same thing.

Anyone have issues with these routers?
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Re: [c-nsp] CE routes

2009-07-14 Thread David Freedman
CE-PE subnets are part of VRF and thus cannot be inserted into the core IGP,
only in MP-BGP. It's way easier (and more scalable) to redistribute them
than to list them in the per-VRF BGP configuration.

On this note, does a MP-BGP redist [static|connected] instruction incur an 
extra RIB walk 
as you scale in terms of VRFs on a PE? or is there a single walk and RDs are 
included/excluded
based on the redist commands?

Dave.


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Phil Mayers

Jon Lewis wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:


Yes.  We've verified this.
A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
only VLAN 30.
VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning, forwarding.


Well...screw that.  That would mean only making MST changes during 
maintenance windows.  I guess it's time to turn off VTP and stick with 
pvst.


Good choice.

MST is a junk standard. They missed a serious opportunity with it. But 
then it's the IEEE - frankly I'm amazed it didn't have a whacking great 
security hole in it.


R-PVST + manual VLAN management works like a charm here.
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Re: [c-nsp] Disallowing sw tru all vlan X w/o add or remove (was: Maximum spannig tree instances)

2009-07-14 Thread Justin Shore

Gert Doering wrote:
Now: what happens if the TACACS server is unavailable?  The way we 
currently run the shop is there is a local username configured as 
fallback if TACACS doesn't respond - and people know that they get 
slapped if they use this user without good reason.


How would command authorization work in that case?


I think it would once again require the mighty hand of the Gert to slap 
his underling back into line.


I believe you can create an authorization list locally that simply 
permits all commands.  Then set that list as the backup to tacacs in the 
AAA config.  Like you said before, this is the backup plan in case the 
world is coming to an end.


I don't do AAA authorization yet but I do use TACACS and I fall back to 
a local user for authentication.  It's very handy.  That userid  passwd 
don't stray far from my hands.  I wouldn't make it something that's 
known to everyone though.  It would be a very select list.


Justin

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[c-nsp] 7206VXR BGP Sessions

2009-07-14 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi there.

 

I need to move several hundred BGP sessions (low traffic peers, about 500
Mb/s combined) over to another box - have a 7206VXR with NPE1G and a 7206VXR
with NPE2G sitting spare at moment.  

 

How many sessions/traffic should the 1G and the 2G be able to handle
approximately?

 

Thanks,

 

Paul

 

 

 

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Re: [c-nsp] Disallowing sw tru all vlan X w/o add or remove (was: Maximum spannig tree instances)

2009-07-14 Thread Phil Mayers

Justin Shore wrote:

Gert Doering wrote:
Now: what happens if the TACACS server is unavailable?  The way we 
currently run the shop is there is a local username configured as 
fallback if TACACS doesn't respond - and people know that they get 
slapped if they use this user without good reason.


How would command authorization work in that case?


I think it would once again require the mighty hand of the Gert to slap 
his underling back into line.


I believe you can create an authorization list locally that simply 
permits all commands.  Then set that list as the backup to tacacs in the 
AAA config.  Like you said before, this is the backup plan in case the 
world is coming to an end.


I don't do AAA authorization yet but I do use TACACS and I fall back to 
a local user for authentication.  It's very handy.  That userid  passwd 
don't stray far from my hands.  I wouldn't make it something that's 
known to everyone though.  It would be a very select list.


That might work in some places, and our auditors certainly seem to think 
there should only be 1 person with the router enable password (wtf?!) 
but we adopted a slightly more low-tech solution. It's not as sexy as 
running a TACACS server:


alias interface tagvlan switchport trunk allowed vlan add
alias interface detagvlan switchport trunk allowed vlan remove

...then:

conf t
int g1/1
  tagvlan 100,101
  detagvlan 200

...and just don't use the more dangerous commands.

I imagine something even more sophisticated could be done with the new 
EEM cli commands interface.


Does anyone know if this can be done without TACACS? Using CLI views or 
similar?

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[c-nsp] Ethernet Loopback plug on an ME3400

2009-07-14 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Is there anything special one needs to do in order to get an ethernet  
loopback plug to bring a port on an ME3400 up/up?  In a 3550 it works  
fine, but on an ME, no joy.  Does the port need to be in any specific  
mode (UNI/NNI) or some other voodoo?  I can't imagine that the MEs  
would just detect it and kill it.

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Re: [c-nsp] Disallowing sw tru all vlan X w/o add or remove

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 22:33 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
 Now: what happens if the TACACS server is unavailable?  The way we 
 currently run the shop is there is a local username configured as 
 fallback if TACACS doesn't respond - and people know that they get 
 slapped if they use this user without good reason.
 
 How would command authorization work in that case?

You can have if-authenticated as fall back mechanism. Kind of like a
local permit any authorization list.

aaa authorization exec METHOD group tacacs+ if-authenticated 
aaa authorization commands 0 METHOD group tacacs+ if-authenticated 
aaa authorization commands 15 METHOD group tacacs+ if-authenticated 

Currently we only allow if-authenticated on the console port. After a
few funny situations the past year I'm seriously considering just
enabling it for VTYs also. I'm not exactly sure why I haven't done this
yet, but there's something inside my head telling me that there's some
security aspect here. I just can think of it. :-)

Regards,
Peter


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[c-nsp] ISIS Mesh group question

2009-07-14 Thread Ibrahim Abo Zaid
Hi All

I have a question about ISIS mesh groups which is used to reduce LSP
flooding in full-mesh p2p enviroments , that means we lose redudacny for
sake of LSP flooding reducation hence it affects forwarding and traffic is
forced to inactive or interfaces in different groups only .

is that right ?

best regards
--Ibrahim
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[c-nsp] SA-VAM NPE-200

2009-07-14 Thread Kris Amy
Hi,

Just wondering if this combination works. The documentation says a NPE225 is 
required however i'm wondering if that is just a warning or an actual 
requirement...

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Re: [c-nsp] Ethernet Loopback plug on an ME3400

2009-07-14 Thread Clinton Work


Maybe you need to disable MDX on the FastE port which is preventing the 
port from coming up.  
*http://tinyurl.com/npuuwt


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Jason Lixfeld wrote:
Is there anything special one needs to do in order to get an ethernet 
loopback plug to bring a port on an ME3400 up/up?  In a 3550 it works 
fine, but on an ME, no joy.  Does the port need to be in any specific 
mode (UNI/NNI) or some other voodoo?  I can't imagine that the MEs 
would just detect it and kill it.

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Re: [c-nsp] ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover

2009-07-14 Thread Prabhu Gurumurthy
Oh I mean use BGP over IPsec, with BGP behind the ASA firewalls and  
yes, ASA supports OSPF and RIP only AFAIK.



On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Munoz, Jeff wrote:

Hey guys, I have two main sites (site A and site B) and one remote  
site (site C).  Sites A and B have a metroethernet connection  
between them.  Remote site C has an IPsec tunnel back to site A.   
I'd like to setup failover so in case site A's ASA is down the  
remote site C ASA sends the interesting traffic down the site B  
IPsec tunnel.  Unfortunately, it will always match the tunnel to  
site A since the phase 2 access lists have the same source/ 
destinations.  Any ideas on how I can do this?


Thanks!

Jeff
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-14 Thread Christopher E. Brown
Tim Durack wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net wrote:
 
 Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for other
 VLANs in that MST instance?
 Yes.  We've verified this.
 A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
 only VLAN 30.
 VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
 instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
 The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning, forwarding.

 
 ...and if that doesn't make you nervous, you probably shouldn't be running
 spanning-tree...
 
 Tim:
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Come on guys, study the proto a little before going off.



In order for MST to work all members of an MST domain *MUST* agree on
the VLAN - MST group mapping.


If you change the mapping it must update across all members of the domain.

YOU ARE REDEFINING THE STP TOPOLOGY


_Pick a topology_


MST group pre-assign...


0   VLAN 1
1   VLAN 2-999
2   VLAN 1000-1999
3   VLAN 2000-2999
4   VLAN 3000-3999
5   VLAN 4000-4094


Or whatever grouping youl want, even/odd, by hundreds, whatever.



You are now free to pick a different root and set link costs for each of
the groups independent of the others, just like pvst but by group.


If you *cannot* manage vlans by group, then stick with a rapid per vlan
variant.


If you need to move vlans in bulk across the core, and can afford to
pre-assign membership in the group then MST can be lower overhead.


The only real rules here

Leave group zero for vlan one *only*

If you have to change the base MST config more than once a year you are
not planning correctly, or you should not be using MST.



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