Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:03:44PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
 Also, if you got the Walker Survey, make sure your sales rep  
 understands the impact this has on your responses.  Their bonus is  
 impacted based on this response.

Now I understand why our sales rep is changing at least once per year...

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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread Jens Link
Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net writes:

 I talked to Oscar, while I do agree with the image that you paint, he
 also claimed that there was testing on more than 1 platform/OS. 

Well Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7 are different operating systems. And
testing isn't any good if you ignore the results. ;-)

On the bright side: Download worked for me using Debian Testing +
Firefox. 

cheers,

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[c-nsp] 720x VXR -12V Sensor

2009-09-22 Thread roy
Does anyone know which IC is being used by the 720x VXR router for 
monitoring the voltage readings (specially the one for -12V)?


I've looked around and seems the DS1620 on I/O card is only for 
temperature. I could be wrong though.


Would appreciate if anyone can point me into the right docs. Trying to 
troubleshoot an internal -12V issue which shuts down my 7206VXR upon 
reaching the threshold within 5 minutes of power-up.


This happens on C7206VXR chassis, NPE-400, I/O-2FE/E controller. I have 
only been looking into the I/O controller. All tray fans working; input 
voltage good and clean on either/both PSU's. Inlet/outlet temps within 
range.


Thanks,

roy
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[c-nsp] HWIC-1ADSL-M

2009-09-22 Thread Richard Brady
Hi Alex

This is an interesting one. I've used 877-M and 1801-M with Be/O2 and
don't have a problem on Annex M.

On Friday I tried both with a Tiscali (via Griffin) service and
couldn't get it to sync at Annex M. When they re-graded it to remove
the Annex M it suddenly synced, but now we are seeing pretty bad QoS,
mostly packet loss. Doesn't seem to be line (SNR) or bandwidth
related, but there is significant error correction activity on the
downstream link which I find strange.

I have heard rumours about Cisco kit not liking the Tiscali DSLAMs but
can't find anything to back this up.

Richard


 On Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 07:16:27PM +0100, Alex Pimperton wrote:
  Reading through the specs for the above card Cisco mentions not
 supporting
  UK Mask.
 
  Does this mean the card doesn't work for ADSL-M (Seemingly often
 branded as
  SDSL-M) in the UK?

 ADSL and SDSL are two very different things. HWIC-1ADSL-M will do
 ADSL2+, but
 probably not SDSL.

I'm aware that it's ADSL 2+ underneath but some providers (Spitfire,
Nildram) are marketing their ADSL Annex-M products as SDSL (M), presumably
because of the symmetrical upload/download, and the fact that it sounds like
SDSL, which business are already familiar with.


  We're looking at getting some SDSL-M circuits to see what they're
 like, from
  Spitfire and Nildram (Tiscali), anybody using either HWIC-1ADSL-M or
 C877-M
  with those providers Annex M services?

 We sell ADSL2+ services in the UK using Be/O2 LLU tails, and they have
 approved bother the HWIC-1ADSL-M and the C877-M for their service.
 I'm using
 a C877-M right now.

Thanks Simon, I saw mention of the C877-M on the BE UserGroup website but no
specific mention of Annex-M products on the (colourful) BE website.

Anybody else using Cisco kit at the end of an Annex-M tail from another
provider?

Cheers,

Alex
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[c-nsp] Doubt about dynamic MS-PW (MultiSegment-PseudoWire)

2009-09-22 Thread asnoka zhung
  Recently I have an opportunity to study the dynamic MS-PW draft,can anyone
tell me
whether it is supported on cisco 7200 platform?
  Thank you.

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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 22 September 2009 02:53:29 pm Gert Doering wrote:

 Now I understand why our sales rep is changing at least
 once per year...

Oh yes - if your Sales rep. doesn't meet their quota (with 
you), they will, very likely, be rotated at the end of the 
fiscal year.

I've always been fascinated by this, as it's a very results-
oriented system (which, in all fairness, I suppose I can 
appreciate), i.e., if they can't up-sell you, they may not 
be doing their job.

However, they may be doing other things that you find 
useful, e.g., co-ordinating your TAC case when all else 
fails, getting you that RMA in record time, ensuring that 
feature is incorporated into the code base even when the 
DE's are reluctant, sending you off to their workshops and 
conferences, engaging you as part of their RD, including 
you in that PoC for the newly released kit, e.t.c.

But I guess the bottom line is, if they haven't up-sold you, 
they are out. What's worse is that you may not have a need 
to make a new purchase in a single year, perhaps because 
you've laced your entire network with CRS-1's, and it's 
going to be years before you need to buy another unit, line 
card, e.t.c.

Results-oriented - I think they may need to consider more 
than that. Re-bonding is not easy... but that's just me.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] 720x VXR -12V Sensor

2009-09-22 Thread Matthew White
Roy,

I encountered a similar issue with a 7204VXR + I/O-2FE/E + NPE-225.

I worked with TAC and started by replacing both power supplies; no good. This 
router was due for an NPE-G1 upgrade so I installed the replacement and kept 
the I/O controller installed; no good. I finally pulled out the I/O controller 
and that solved the problem.

-mtw

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Behalf Of roy [bandwidth.u...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 03:52
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] 720x VXR -12V Sensor

Does anyone know which IC is being used by the 720x VXR router for
monitoring the voltage readings (specially the one for -12V)?

I've looked around and seems the DS1620 on I/O card is only for
temperature. I could be wrong though.

Would appreciate if anyone can point me into the right docs. Trying to
troubleshoot an internal -12V issue which shuts down my 7206VXR upon
reaching the threshold within 5 minutes of power-up.

This happens on C7206VXR chassis, NPE-400, I/O-2FE/E controller. I have
only been looking into the I/O controller. All tray fans working; input
voltage good and clean on either/both PSU's. Inlet/outlet temps within
range.

Thanks,

roy
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-22 Thread William S. Duncanson
I specifically mentioned the musical sales rep problem as a problem in the
survey.  We'll see if they listen.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:47 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Gert Doering; Jared Mauch
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

On Tuesday 22 September 2009 02:53:29 pm Gert Doering wrote:

 Now I understand why our sales rep is changing at least once per 
 year...

Oh yes - if your Sales rep. doesn't meet their quota (with you), they will,
very likely, be rotated at the end of the fiscal year.

I've always been fascinated by this, as it's a very results- oriented system
(which, in all fairness, I suppose I can appreciate), i.e., if they can't
up-sell you, they may not be doing their job.

However, they may be doing other things that you find useful, e.g.,
co-ordinating your TAC case when all else fails, getting you that RMA in
record time, ensuring that feature is incorporated into the code base even
when the DE's are reluctant, sending you off to their workshops and
conferences, engaging you as part of their RD, including you in that PoC
for the newly released kit, e.t.c.

But I guess the bottom line is, if they haven't up-sold you, they are out.
What's worse is that you may not have a need to make a new purchase in a
single year, perhaps because you've laced your entire network with CRS-1's,
and it's going to be years before you need to buy another unit, line card,
e.t.c.

Results-oriented - I think they may need to consider more than that.
Re-bonding is not easy... but that's just me.

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: [c-nsp] 7600-ES20 L2 and L3 Multiplexing

2009-09-22 Thread Antonio Soares
Hello group,

I received some off-line help and now i have a workaround:

+
 !
 service instance 200 ethernet
  encapsulation dot1q 200 second-dot1q 100
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain 200
 !
!
interface Vlan200
 ip address 20.20.20.254 255.255.255.0
 ipv6 address 2001:20::2/64
!
+

Now there is a document about the ES20 that says the following:

Flexible QinQ Mapping and Service Awareness on 7600-ESM-2X10GE and 
7600-ESM-20X1GE is supported only through Ethernet Virtual
Connection Services (EVCS) service instances.

The Flexible QinQ Mapping and Service Awareness on 7600-ESM-2X10GE and 
7600-ESM-20X1GE feature allows service providers to offer
triple-play services, residential internet access from a DSLAM, and business 
Layer 2 and Layer 3 VPN by providing for termination of
double-tagged dot1q frames onto a Layer 3 subinterface at the access node.

Source:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps368/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00807f3f97.html#wp1433597


I still do not understand if L3 sub-interfaces are supported or not and if they 
are, why IPv6 commands are not accepted.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: segunda-feira, 21 de Setembro de 2009 17:29
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] 7600-ES20 L2 and L3 Multiplexing

Hello group,

I have a ES20 interface configured with L2 services via the service instance 
command. Now i would like to add L3 services to the
same physical interface but i noticed a problem with IPv6:

7600#
7600#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
7600(config)#!
7600(config)#interface GigabitEthernet3/0/0.200100
7600(config-subif)# encapsulation dot1Q 200 second-dot1q 100
7600(config-subif)# ip address 20.20.20.254 255.255.255.0
7600(config-subif)# ipv6 address 2001:20::2/64
   ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
 
7600(config-subif)#ipv6 ?
% Unrecognized command
7600(config-subif)#

After removing all the service instance entries, the IPv6 command was accepted. 
Is this a known limitation ? I saw the same problem
with 12.2(33)SRC2 and 122-33.SRD2a.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt


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Re: [c-nsp] 720x VXR -12V Sensor

2009-09-22 Thread Brian DuRoss
 Does anyone know which IC is being used by the 720x VXR router for 
 monitoring the voltage readings (specially the one for -12V)?

 I've looked around and seems the DS1620 on I/O card is only for 
 temperature. I could be wrong though.


Roy, 

It looks like the TL7705BC or TL7702BC are the components you are looking for.

These appear to be designed to monitor voltages from 0-18V. 

http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/177129/TI/TL7705BC.html

http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/177128/TI/TL7702BC.html

They are labeled as U33 and I believe U32 on this card. (The U32 is not clearly 
readable on the pcb). 

These are located above the SIMM slot on the IO card. 

http://www.bsd.am/IMG_4312.JPG (warning, hi-res)

HTH, 

B


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[c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

2009-09-22 Thread Drew Weaver
Is there any way to get more information about what caused a fail-over between 
two supervisors in a 6500?

All I can appear to get is Active crashed. from show redundancy switchover 
and my syslog doesn't have any information either.

Also, is it normal that during switchover you will lose protocols (OSPF) and 
that you will see messages like these in the log?

Sep 22 08:41:17.651 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 1 turned on.
Sep 22 08:41:17.699 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 2 turned on.

The log messages sort of confuse me because show version indicates:

uptime is 10 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes

So it's been up 10 weeks but the power supplies were just turned on  12 hours 
ago? I assume that is just random log-spew from the hot-supervisor taking over, 
though?

-Drew

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

2009-09-22 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
Drew,

You should have a crashinfo file on the used-to-be-primary SUP
bootflash.
The right thing would be to open a TAC case, and give the engineer the
crashinfo file and the show tech for the device.

Arie

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 21:38
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

Is there any way to get more information about what caused a fail-over
between two supervisors in a 6500?

All I can appear to get is Active crashed. from show redundancy
switchover and my syslog doesn't have any information either.

Also, is it normal that during switchover you will lose protocols (OSPF)
and that you will see messages like these in the log?

Sep 22 08:41:17.651 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 1 turned on.
Sep 22 08:41:17.699 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 2 turned on.

The log messages sort of confuse me because show version indicates:

uptime is 10 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes

So it's been up 10 weeks but the power supplies were just turned on  12
hours ago? I assume that is just random log-spew from the hot-supervisor
taking over, though?

-Drew

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

2009-09-22 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 02:37:41PM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote:
 Is there any way to get more information about what caused a fail-over 
 between two supervisors in a 6500?
 
 All I can appear to get is Active crashed. from show redundancy switchover 
 and my syslog doesn't have any information either.

If it actually crashed, you may want to investigate whether a crashinfo file
was left behind.

 
 Also, is it normal that during switchover you will lose protocols (OSPF) and 
 that you will see messages like these in the log?
 

This is normal -- the new processor has to rebuild all routing protocols
when it comes online from RPR or RPR+ mode.  Even with SSO mode, if NSF is
not configured with all peers on all protocols, the sessions are broken down
and rebuilt.

 Sep 22 08:41:17.651 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 1 turned on.
 Sep 22 08:41:17.699 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 2 turned on.
 

This is normal, as part of the standby supervisor finishing initialization

 The log messages sort of confuse me because show version indicates:
 
 uptime is 10 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes
 
 So it's been up 10 weeks but the power supplies were just turned on  12 
 hours ago? I assume that is just random log-spew from the hot-supervisor 
 taking over, though?

For more information about uptime for given processors, try 
show redundancy -- it should give total chassis uptime, last switchover
time, number of switchovers, and time on active processor.

 
 -Drew
 

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

2009-09-22 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 01:07:47PM -0700, Bill Blackford wrote:
 snip
 This is normal -- the new processor has to rebuild all routing protocols when 
 it comes online from RPR or RPR+ mode.  Even with SSO mode, if NSF is not 
 configured with all peers on all protocols, the sessions are broken down and 
 rebuilt.
 /snip
 
 I recently had event very much like this. In my case, even SSO/NSF dropped 
 some adjacencies during this switchover.
 
 -b
 

Did you confirm that NSF (Graceful restart, etc) has been negotiated with
all adjacencies, and that all adjacent routers are NSF-aware?  

Also, there is an upper bound to the time alloted to
perform the switchover, and the new RP has to signal an NSF event prior to
current hold/dead/etc timers expiring -- if you have your OSPF timer set to
1/3, and it takes more than 3 seconds for the standby RP to see the failure,
take over, and send the NSF message, the adjacency will already have been
dropped.

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

2009-09-22 Thread Bill Blackford
snip
This is normal -- the new processor has to rebuild all routing protocols when 
it comes online from RPR or RPR+ mode.  Even with SSO mode, if NSF is not 
configured with all peers on all protocols, the sessions are broken down and 
rebuilt.
/snip

I recently had event very much like this. In my case, even SSO/NSF dropped some 
adjacencies during this switchover.

-b


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Brandon Ewing
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:07 PM
To: Drew Weaver
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 - stateful failover, reason?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 02:37:41PM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote:
 Is there any way to get more information about what caused a fail-over 
 between two supervisors in a 6500?
 
 All I can appear to get is Active crashed. from show redundancy switchover 
 and my syslog doesn't have any information either.

If it actually crashed, you may want to investigate whether a crashinfo file 
was left behind.

 
 Also, is it normal that during switchover you will lose protocols (OSPF) and 
 that you will see messages like these in the log?
 

This is normal -- the new processor has to rebuild all routing protocols when 
it comes online from RPR or RPR+ mode.  Even with SSO mode, if NSF is not 
configured with all peers on all protocols, the sessions are broken down and 
rebuilt.

 Sep 22 08:41:17.651 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 1 turned on.
 Sep 22 08:41:17.699 EDT: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 2 turned on.
 

This is normal, as part of the standby supervisor finishing initialization

 The log messages sort of confuse me because show version indicates:
 
 uptime is 10 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes
 
 So it's been up 10 weeks but the power supplies were just turned on  12 
 hours ago? I assume that is just random log-spew from the hot-supervisor 
 taking over, though?

For more information about uptime for given processors, try show redundancy -- 
it should give total chassis uptime, last switchover time, number of 
switchovers, and time on active processor.

 
 -Drew
 

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[c-nsp] Cisco SCE OIDs

2009-09-22 Thread Mohammad Khalil

hey all 
i have cisco sce with the below version

System version: Version 3.5.0 Build 407
Build time: Dec 22 2008, 18:28:53 (Change-list 414717)
Software version is: Version 3.5.0 Build 407
Cryptography class: K9
Hardware information is:

-
Firmware
-
kernel  : [kernel] 2.0.0/6 (inactive: [kernel] 1.1.0/8)
u-boot  : [uboot] 1.2.0/4 (field: [uboot] 0.8.1/18)
select  : [ubs-cf1] 1.1.0/8 (secondary: [ubs-cf1] 1.1.0/8)

Platform: SCE8000 - 2x10GBE
Management agent interface version: SCE Agent 3.5.0 Build 469
Software package file: Not available

i am trying to graph some parameters such as the concurrent sessions and per 
package download



[fails...@core ~]$ snmpwalk -v2c -c  community x.x.x.x
.1.3.6.1.4.1.5655.4.1.8.1.1.9.1

SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.5655.4.1.8.1.1.9.1 = No Such Object
available on this agent at this OID


any ideas?

thanks

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Re: [c-nsp] 720x VXR -12V Sensor

2009-09-22 Thread roy

Thanks Matt and Brian.

This indeed seem to be an I/O controller issue (although the CCO docs 
say the sensors are on the PSU and the engine was supposed to process 
them). I've tried swapping I/O controllers keeping the rest of the 
hardware configuration intact; router up and running for more than 12hrs.


Might need to track down what's giving an increase in resistance which 
results to overshooting the -12V thresholds.


Regards,

Roy
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[c-nsp] NBAR + QoS - policing kills class-default traffic

2009-09-22 Thread Matthew White
Greetings,

I've got the following kit:

  Cisco 7204VXR (NPE-G1) processor
  Cisco IOS Software, 7200 Software (C7200-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 
12.4(24)T1

and the following NBAR + QoS config:

class-map match-any HULU
 match protocol http host t2.hulu.com
 match protocol http host t.hulu.com
 match protocol http host hulu.com
class-map match-any YOUTUBE
 match protocol http host youtube.com
class-map match-all PANDORA
 match access-group name PANDORA_SERVERS
class-map match-any WEB_ENTERTAINMENT
 match class-map PANDORA
 match class-map HULU
 match class-map YOUTUBE

policy-map LIMIT_INTERNET_TRAFFIC
 class WEB_ENTERTAINMENT
police 8000 conform-action transmit  exceed-action drop

interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 ip address x.x.x.x 255.255.255.192
 ip access-group 100 in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nbar protocol-discovery
 no ip mroute-cache
 duplex full
 speed 100
 media-type rj45
 no negotiation auto
 service-policy output LIMIT_INTERNET_TRAFFIC

The policy polices HULU and PANDORA, counters don't increment for YOUTUBE (and 
doesn't get policed) and after 3 or 4 minutes ALL web traffic is policed. Has 
anyone seen this behavior before?

Yours Sincerely,

Matthew White
Sr. Network Engineer
Group IT, Operations, Network

Vestas Wind Systems A/S
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[c-nsp] Limiting b/w per IP?

2009-09-22 Thread Hank Nussbacher
I haven't followed all the new bells and whistles in IOS so maybe 
something new is there that can handle this age old problem for me.


I want to be able to rate limit all IPs so that no single IP on an 
interface can eat more than say 20% of the available b/w (inbound and 
outbound).  I do not want to define every single IP of the segment in an 
ACL but can if the solution is clean.  Not interested in protocol 
rate-control - just IP b/w.


Cisco snippets or URLs welcome.

Thanks,
Hank
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