Re: [c-nsp] pppoe server

2011-06-28 Thread Juergen Marenda
 
On the lower-price end,
the 3845 has 1200 as maximum recommended number of l2tp tunnels or sessions;
(cisco application note l2tp support for the cisco 800, 1800, 2800, 3800
integrated service routers )
or a 7206VXR with NPEg1
or the 1HE NPEg2 called 7201 will terminate 8000 sessions
(mircom report and datasheet at cisco.com)

But they have 2/3/4 GE Interfaces, resp., not 10GE,
and second source Memeory to max the NPE-G1 out is now rare.

Juergen.

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Bruce 
 D. Sidlinger
 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:51 AM
 To: K bharathan
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] pppoe server
 
 ASR1000 is the current preferred solution, or so my 
 salesperson tells me.
 
 For various telcos I currently use Cisco 1s for PPPoE but 
 in the future will change to the new little ASR.
 
 -Bruce
 
 
 On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:36 AM, K bharathan kbhara...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  hi all
  which cisco router can be used for pppoe server (about 1200 
 customers)
  
  -bharathan
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[c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Nikolay Shopik

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is 
this new policy for new platforms?


I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 12:55 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
 We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is 
 this new policy for new platforms?
 
 I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

Hm... I seem to remember that cables are included with the 3560X-24P
switches we purches regularly. I'm not certain, but I'll try to verify
it and post back.

They still have a regular console port (RJ45 connector, serial) so the
cables used for all other recent Cisco devices can be re-used.

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Nikolay Shopik

On 28/06/11 13:26, Peter Rathlev wrote:

They still have a regular console port (RJ45 connector, serial) so the
cables used for all other recent Cisco devices can be re-used.


Yeah that's not problem, we have spare cables from old device. Rarely 
but sometimes you need cable/per device. When you have installed only 
one device on site, so I'm wondering is this just our package or new 
policy not to include even RJ45 console cables.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Tim Franklin
 Yeah that's not problem, we have spare cables from old device. Rarely
 but sometimes you need cable/per device. When you have installed only
 one device on site, so I'm wondering is this just our package or new
 policy not to include even RJ45 console cables.

I believe it's now a zero-cost option, along with things like the pack of 
documentation.  SPs were complaining in the other direction that they had 
cupboards full of cables, DB9 adapters, and how to set up your first Cisco 
router / why plugging mains into the Ethernet port is Bad booklets in 20 
languages...

At one point, green and regular part numbers were mooted, but I think 
that's now gone.

Just checked the latest delivery of boxes next to me (2911s), and I do indeed 
have power cables, read me first, and rack ears, but no console.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Nikolay Shopik

On 28/06/11 14:05, Tim Franklin wrote:

I believe it's now a zero-cost option, along with things like the pack of 
documentation.


So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your 
order and this cost you 0$.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Tim Franklin
 So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your
 order and this cost you 0$.

CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 (RJ45 - DB9F)
CAB-CONSOLE-USB

Also CAB-AUX-RJ45 (RJ45-DB25M) if you want to hook up a modem.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Holemans Wim
Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest copy 
of the GPL in feb) :

CAB-CONSOLE-USB=Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$
CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F  30,00$
CAB-CONSOLE-USB Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$

Wim Holemans
Netwerkdienst Universiteit Antwerpen
Network Services University of Antwerp


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tim Franklin
Sent: dinsdag 28 juni 2011 13:02
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

 So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your
 order and this cost you 0$.

CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 (RJ45 - DB9F)
CAB-CONSOLE-USB

Also CAB-AUX-RJ45 (RJ45-DB25M) if you want to hook up a modem.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +, Holemans Wim wrote:
 Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest 
 copy of the GPL in feb) :
 
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB=  Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45  Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F  30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB   Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$

But that's as free as it gets, given that the lowest price for anything
used to be 50$...

gert
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[c-nsp] PPPoE pass through over router

2011-06-28 Thread Tseveendorj

Hello,

I have configured NAS on my network but I need to configure network 
PPPoE over Routed network. Topology looks like below.



PC1Cisco 871 router1  NAS  Cisco 871 router2  PC2

Is there anyway to configure PC1 and PC2 make PPPoE connection over 
Cisco 871 router1 and router2 to NAS ?


How to configure Cisco 871 routers for PPPoE pass through.

Sincerely
Tseveen.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Jim McBurnett
They are now a $30 list price option.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nikolay Shopik
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:56 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new 
policy for new platforms?

I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway

2011-06-28 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
Yes, without full feeds, and allowing the provider to filter their routes, and 
you route statically to your provider. For Metro optical Ethernet, it is a 
deployable solution. Current BGP routes, roughly 350,000+, in addition to 
internal routes and what have you... that said, a BGP speaker used only for a 
network with a single point of entry to the Internet may have a much smaller 
routing table size--thus the modest requirements needed for RAM and CPU--than a 
multi-homed network. Even simple multi-homing can have modest routing table 
size.

~Jay Murphy 
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-Original Message-
From: far...@gmail.com [mailto:far...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:24 PM
To: Jay Hennigan; cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net; Murphy, Jay, DOH
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway

Dear Jay,
As far as I know, IPv4 BGP entry is more than 300k entry, I don't think it will 
suite with a 3750.
Please refer to routing handling from its datasheet. 
I'm agree with the other, if you would run default gateway for multihomed 
upstream, 3750 will do.
Hope it help.


Rgrds,
-farisy-

-Original Message-
From: Jay Hennigan j...@west.net
Sender: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:44:07 
To: Murphy, Jay, DOHjay.mur...@state.nm.us
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netcisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway

On 6/27/11 1:30 PM, Murphy, Jay, DOH wrote:
 How about when you stack them as a logical switch. Couldn't one leverage the 
 memory and processing of the stacking?

If you're taking just a default eBGP route from each external neighbor
and using multi-homing as a primary/failover, you can get away with it.
 Multi-homed BGP gateway in your original post implies taking at least
a partial table from a diversity of transit providers and/or peers, and
these switches just aren't capable of dealing with anywhere near that
many routes.


 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:11 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway
 
 On 6/27/11 11:59 AM, Jason Greenberg wrote:
 Can someone advise me as to why a 3750 L3 Switch (Metro Model) wouldn't 
 outperform a 7300 series router as a multi-homed BGP gateway?  ISRs and 
 Enterprise class routers are still quite a bit more expensive than the L3 
 Switches, but I'm starting to not understand why.   I understand that L3 
 switches are less feature rich on the routing end, but suppose that our ASAs 
 are doing most of the complicated filtering.I know it doesn't sound 
 right to have a 3750G used in this manner, but I am having a hard time 
 finding any real reason why not to do it.
 
 The memory and number of routes are far too small to use these as a
 border router.  Generally adequate for iBGP to inject customer routes
 into your network but way too little for an Internet-facing border.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Jim McBurnett
I remember a console cable kit back in the day that was $100. 
Now I feel old


Jim

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:24 AM
To: Holemans Wim
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hi,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +, Holemans Wim wrote:
 Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest 
 copy of the GPL in feb) :
 
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB=  Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45  Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F  30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB   Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$

But that's as free as it gets, given that the lowest price for anything used to 
be 50$...

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] VSS - Horror stories, show-stoppers, other personal experience?

2011-06-28 Thread Bradley Williamson
My understanding of an LTL is a path map for traffic through the switch.

In the VSS environment, every multicast stream consumes 3 multicast LTL
resources for each VLAN on the switch and another 3 LTL's for each IGMP
snooping entry. We had 300+ multicast channels coming in from encoders,
then being joined by encryption servers and ICC/error correcting servers.
The encryption servers were sending an encrypted multicast stream back
into the VSS. We also had another set of servers joining the encrypted
streams and generating a PIP stream.

In a stand alone 6509 there are ~30K multicast LTL's available. In the VSS
this number drops to ~20 for the two combined 6509's. Our 300+ channels
with all of the extra stream for PIP, encryption and ICC etc.. Were using
over 19,800 multicast LTL's.

There is an LTL threshold of 200 free LTL's. Once you have less than 200
free multicast LTL's available, the switch will disable IGMP snooping and
begin to flood multicast out of all ports. This obviously crashes the
switch processor. 

Some commands to see LTL usage:

show platform hardware capacity multicast
remote command switch show mmls mltl

I hope this information helps.

Regards, 

Brad

On 6/17/11 2:50 PM, Youssef El Fathi youssef.el.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Bradley,

I would like to have more details about the performance issue you ran with
IP mcast traffic? Can you give me more details.

Thanks and regards

Youssef


 Message: 8
 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:15:28 -0500
 From: Bradley Williamson bwilliam...@eatel.com
 To: Mike G gee...@gmail.com
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VSS - Horror stories, show-stoppers, other
personal experience?
 Message-ID: bb407316-be74-4e7f-856b-8cb6b53bd...@eatel.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 I just spent the better part of my day splitting a vss.

 I think it works well for the most part. Fail over works well. It Is
easy
 to manage. MEC is nice too.

 We tried it in an Multicast environment, and it was too resource limited
 for what we were doing. If you are not doing much multicast (300+
channels)
 then it should work well for you.

 Sent from my iPad


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[c-nsp] High CPU issues on 6513 with LACP

2011-06-28 Thread Christopher J. Wargaski
Greetings--

   I recently installed a stack of HP (H3C) switches in a closet and
connected them with an LACP link to a 6513 running 12.2(17d)SXB11a. (Yes,
that is circa 2006, don't ask. At least the beast wasn't running in hybrid
mode!) The 6513 physical LAG ports were configured with mode active.

   When using static LAG on the HP switches the 6513's CPU utilization
climbed so high that packets were dropping and a sh run int po2 would not
complete. When I moved to using dynamic LAG on the HP switches, the uplink
worked just fine. Anyone heard of such an issue specific to static LAG, or
perhaps an issues with a sub-optimal version of IOS.

cjw
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Re: [c-nsp] High CPU issues on 6513 with LACP

2011-06-28 Thread Chris Evans
Upgrade code. That will fix it. Known bug from olden days.
On Jun 28, 2011 3:54 PM, Christopher J. Wargaski war...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings--

 I recently installed a stack of HP (H3C) switches in a closet and
 connected them with an LACP link to a 6513 running 12.2(17d)SXB11a. (Yes,
 that is circa 2006, don't ask. At least the beast wasn't running in hybrid
 mode!) The 6513 physical LAG ports were configured with mode active.

 When using static LAG on the HP switches the 6513's CPU utilization
 climbed so high that packets were dropping and a sh run int po2 would
not
 complete. When I moved to using dynamic LAG on the HP switches, the uplink
 worked just fine. Anyone heard of such an issue specific to static LAG, or
 perhaps an issues with a sub-optimal version of IOS.

 cjw
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Tony Varriale

On 6/28/2011 3:55 AM, Nikolay Shopik wrote:

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is 
this new policy for new platforms?


I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.



Yes.  That is an orderable part number now.  And, it's not free.

I'm glad because the last thing I need to do it throw out one more cable.

tv
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