Re: [c-nsp] pppoe server
On the lower-price end, the 3845 has 1200 as maximum recommended number of l2tp tunnels or sessions; (cisco application note l2tp support for the cisco 800, 1800, 2800, 3800 integrated service routers ) or a 7206VXR with NPEg1 or the 1HE NPEg2 called 7201 will terminate 8000 sessions (mircom report and datasheet at cisco.com) But they have 2/3/4 GE Interfaces, resp., not 10GE, and second source Memeory to max the NPE-G1 out is now rare. Juergen. -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Bruce D. Sidlinger Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:51 AM To: K bharathan Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] pppoe server ASR1000 is the current preferred solution, or so my salesperson tells me. For various telcos I currently use Cisco 1s for PPPoE but in the future will change to the new little ASR. -Bruce On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:36 AM, K bharathan kbhara...@gmail.com wrote: hi all which cisco router can be used for pppoe server (about 1200 customers) -bharathan ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
Hey everyone, We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new policy for new platforms? I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 12:55 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote: We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new policy for new platforms? I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all. Hm... I seem to remember that cables are included with the 3560X-24P switches we purches regularly. I'm not certain, but I'll try to verify it and post back. They still have a regular console port (RJ45 connector, serial) so the cables used for all other recent Cisco devices can be re-used. -- Peter ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
On 28/06/11 13:26, Peter Rathlev wrote: They still have a regular console port (RJ45 connector, serial) so the cables used for all other recent Cisco devices can be re-used. Yeah that's not problem, we have spare cables from old device. Rarely but sometimes you need cable/per device. When you have installed only one device on site, so I'm wondering is this just our package or new policy not to include even RJ45 console cables. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
Yeah that's not problem, we have spare cables from old device. Rarely but sometimes you need cable/per device. When you have installed only one device on site, so I'm wondering is this just our package or new policy not to include even RJ45 console cables. I believe it's now a zero-cost option, along with things like the pack of documentation. SPs were complaining in the other direction that they had cupboards full of cables, DB9 adapters, and how to set up your first Cisco router / why plugging mains into the Ethernet port is Bad booklets in 20 languages... At one point, green and regular part numbers were mooted, but I think that's now gone. Just checked the latest delivery of boxes next to me (2911s), and I do indeed have power cables, read me first, and rack ears, but no console. Regards, Tim. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
On 28/06/11 14:05, Tim Franklin wrote: I believe it's now a zero-cost option, along with things like the pack of documentation. So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your order and this cost you 0$. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your order and this cost you 0$. CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 (RJ45 - DB9F) CAB-CONSOLE-USB Also CAB-AUX-RJ45 (RJ45-DB25M) if you want to hook up a modem. Regards, Tim. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest copy of the GPL in feb) : CAB-CONSOLE-USB=Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B 30,00$ CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F 30,00$ CAB-CONSOLE-USB Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B 30,00$ Wim Holemans Netwerkdienst Universiteit Antwerpen Network Services University of Antwerp -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tim Franklin Sent: dinsdag 28 juni 2011 13:02 To: cisco-nsp Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your order and this cost you 0$. CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 (RJ45 - DB9F) CAB-CONSOLE-USB Also CAB-AUX-RJ45 (RJ45-DB25M) if you want to hook up a modem. Regards, Tim. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +, Holemans Wim wrote: Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest copy of the GPL in feb) : CAB-CONSOLE-USB= Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B 30,00$ CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F 30,00$ CAB-CONSOLE-USB Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B 30,00$ But that's as free as it gets, given that the lowest price for anything used to be 50$... gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pgpbSrabBuH2W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] PPPoE pass through over router
Hello, I have configured NAS on my network but I need to configure network PPPoE over Routed network. Topology looks like below. PC1Cisco 871 router1 NAS Cisco 871 router2 PC2 Is there anyway to configure PC1 and PC2 make PPPoE connection over Cisco 871 router1 and router2 to NAS ? How to configure Cisco 871 routers for PPPoE pass through. Sincerely Tseveen. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
They are now a $30 list price option. Jim -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nikolay Shopik Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:56 AM To: cisco-nsp Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms Hey everyone, We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new policy for new platforms? I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway
Yes, without full feeds, and allowing the provider to filter their routes, and you route statically to your provider. For Metro optical Ethernet, it is a deployable solution. Current BGP routes, roughly 350,000+, in addition to internal routes and what have you... that said, a BGP speaker used only for a network with a single point of entry to the Internet may have a much smaller routing table size--thus the modest requirements needed for RAM and CPU--than a multi-homed network. Even simple multi-homing can have modest routing table size. ~Jay Murphy Sr. IP Network Specialist NM State Government IT Services Division PSB – IP Network Management Center Santa Fé, New México 87505 We move the information that moves your world. “Engineering is about finding the sweet spot between what's solvable and what isn't. “Good engineering demands that we understand what we’re doing and why, keep an open mind, and learn from experience.” Radia Perlman If human beings are perceived as potentials rather than problems, as possessing strengths instead of weaknesses, as unlimited rather than dull and unresponsive, then they thrive and grow to their capabilities. Please consider the environment before printing e-mail -Original Message- From: far...@gmail.com [mailto:far...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:24 PM To: Jay Hennigan; cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net; Murphy, Jay, DOH Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway Dear Jay, As far as I know, IPv4 BGP entry is more than 300k entry, I don't think it will suite with a 3750. Please refer to routing handling from its datasheet. I'm agree with the other, if you would run default gateway for multihomed upstream, 3750 will do. Hope it help. Rgrds, -farisy- -Original Message- From: Jay Hennigan j...@west.net Sender: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:44:07 To: Murphy, Jay, DOHjay.mur...@state.nm.us Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netcisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway On 6/27/11 1:30 PM, Murphy, Jay, DOH wrote: How about when you stack them as a logical switch. Couldn't one leverage the memory and processing of the stacking? If you're taking just a default eBGP route from each external neighbor and using multi-homing as a primary/failover, you can get away with it. Multi-homed BGP gateway in your original post implies taking at least a partial table from a diversity of transit providers and/or peers, and these switches just aren't capable of dealing with anywhere near that many routes. -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:11 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3 Switch as a BGP Gateway On 6/27/11 11:59 AM, Jason Greenberg wrote: Can someone advise me as to why a 3750 L3 Switch (Metro Model) wouldn't outperform a 7300 series router as a multi-homed BGP gateway? ISRs and Enterprise class routers are still quite a bit more expensive than the L3 Switches, but I'm starting to not understand why. I understand that L3 switches are less feature rich on the routing end, but suppose that our ASAs are doing most of the complicated filtering.I know it doesn't sound right to have a 3750G used in this manner, but I am having a hard time finding any real reason why not to do it. The memory and number of routes are far too small to use these as a border router. Generally adequate for iBGP to inject customer routes into your network but way too little for an Internet-facing border. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
I remember a console cable kit back in the day that was $100. Now I feel old Jim -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:24 AM To: Holemans Wim Cc: 'cisco-nsp' Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +, Holemans Wim wrote: Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest copy of the GPL in feb) : CAB-CONSOLE-USB= Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B 30,00$ CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F 30,00$ CAB-CONSOLE-USB Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B 30,00$ But that's as free as it gets, given that the lowest price for anything used to be 50$... gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] VSS - Horror stories, show-stoppers, other personal experience?
My understanding of an LTL is a path map for traffic through the switch. In the VSS environment, every multicast stream consumes 3 multicast LTL resources for each VLAN on the switch and another 3 LTL's for each IGMP snooping entry. We had 300+ multicast channels coming in from encoders, then being joined by encryption servers and ICC/error correcting servers. The encryption servers were sending an encrypted multicast stream back into the VSS. We also had another set of servers joining the encrypted streams and generating a PIP stream. In a stand alone 6509 there are ~30K multicast LTL's available. In the VSS this number drops to ~20 for the two combined 6509's. Our 300+ channels with all of the extra stream for PIP, encryption and ICC etc.. Were using over 19,800 multicast LTL's. There is an LTL threshold of 200 free LTL's. Once you have less than 200 free multicast LTL's available, the switch will disable IGMP snooping and begin to flood multicast out of all ports. This obviously crashes the switch processor. Some commands to see LTL usage: show platform hardware capacity multicast remote command switch show mmls mltl I hope this information helps. Regards, Brad On 6/17/11 2:50 PM, Youssef El Fathi youssef.el.fa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bradley, I would like to have more details about the performance issue you ran with IP mcast traffic? Can you give me more details. Thanks and regards Youssef Message: 8 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:15:28 -0500 From: Bradley Williamson bwilliam...@eatel.com To: Mike G gee...@gmail.com Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VSS - Horror stories, show-stoppers, other personal experience? Message-ID: bb407316-be74-4e7f-856b-8cb6b53bd...@eatel.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just spent the better part of my day splitting a vss. I think it works well for the most part. Fail over works well. It Is easy to manage. MEC is nice too. We tried it in an Multicast environment, and it was too resource limited for what we were doing. If you are not doing much multicast (300+ channels) then it should work well for you. Sent from my iPad ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] High CPU issues on 6513 with LACP
Greetings-- I recently installed a stack of HP (H3C) switches in a closet and connected them with an LACP link to a 6513 running 12.2(17d)SXB11a. (Yes, that is circa 2006, don't ask. At least the beast wasn't running in hybrid mode!) The 6513 physical LAG ports were configured with mode active. When using static LAG on the HP switches the 6513's CPU utilization climbed so high that packets were dropping and a sh run int po2 would not complete. When I moved to using dynamic LAG on the HP switches, the uplink worked just fine. Anyone heard of such an issue specific to static LAG, or perhaps an issues with a sub-optimal version of IOS. cjw ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] High CPU issues on 6513 with LACP
Upgrade code. That will fix it. Known bug from olden days. On Jun 28, 2011 3:54 PM, Christopher J. Wargaski war...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings-- I recently installed a stack of HP (H3C) switches in a closet and connected them with an LACP link to a 6513 running 12.2(17d)SXB11a. (Yes, that is circa 2006, don't ask. At least the beast wasn't running in hybrid mode!) The 6513 physical LAG ports were configured with mode active. When using static LAG on the HP switches the 6513's CPU utilization climbed so high that packets were dropping and a sh run int po2 would not complete. When I moved to using dynamic LAG on the HP switches, the uplink worked just fine. Anyone heard of such an issue specific to static LAG, or perhaps an issues with a sub-optimal version of IOS. cjw ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms
On 6/28/2011 3:55 AM, Nikolay Shopik wrote: Hey everyone, We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new policy for new platforms? I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all. Yes. That is an orderable part number now. And, it's not free. I'm glad because the last thing I need to do it throw out one more cable. tv ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/