[c-nsp] Certificate Update and Resource of CCIE

2011-10-04 Thread Fourpros it
Hello Cisco -nsp group,

My CCNP certificate is about to expire and want to renew it with CCIE SP
written exam, can someone help me to find CCIE SP V3 (350-02) book?  From
where i can get this book  or someone please mail me the soft copy if you
have, it will be great help.

Thank You

Regards
Four Pros
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum traffic on Gigabit Ethernet

2011-10-04 Thread Manaf Al Oqlah

Normal Configuration:

interface GigabitEthernet5/2
ip address x.x.x.x
no ip redirects
no ip proxy-arp
media-type rj45

MTU is default 1500

-Original Message- 
From: Scott Granados

Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:25 PM
To: Manaf Al Oqlah ; Group Study ; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Maximum traffic on Gigabit Ethernet

Depends on the traffic type, packet sizes and what features you have
enabled.  Can you detail the port configurationa bit more?


-Original Message- 
From: Manaf Al Oqlah

Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:47 AM
To: Group Study ; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Maximum traffic on Gigabit Ethernet

Hi,

What is the maximum traffic that a gigabit Ethernet interface can handle on
Cisco 7600 router RSP720-3C-GE before dropping packets . we are able to
reach 750 mbps / 125 mbps input/out rate!

thank you
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[c-nsp] download IOS for EOL/EOS hardware

2011-10-04 Thread Nikolay Shopik

Hey,

I'm wonder what's up with access to IOS software for EOL/EOS hardware 
for example 3600 router serises EOL is 31 dec 2008. Downdload section 
still saying I need contract to download, while it's been EOS for years.


Maybe I miss something and it not completely EOS?

Yes we still using these old boxes as ISDN to IP gateways in some remote 
sites. Some of them running 12.2 just fine, but some experience crashes, 
so we though maybe we could upgrade to latest stable release.

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Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

2011-10-04 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2011-10-04 00:26 -0400), Jason Lixfeld wrote:

  The ASR line cards resemble the ES series on the 7600.

 Where?  If one is using an ES port on a 7600, I'd assume one is likely using 
 EVCs on said port.  The ES ports on the 7600s do not support SPAN on a 
 physical interface that is configured with EVCs.  The ASR9k thankfully 
 supports this extremely basic feature.  The 7600 ES port's lack of SPAN on an 
 EVC would lead me to believe that the ASIC controlling the ES is very 
 different than the ASIC controlling the ASR linecards.

ASR9k does not have any PFC engines, like 7600 must have. But indeed ES+ EZchip
is same chip ASR9k uses exclusively (there are no PFCs in ASR9k). Also IIRC the
fabric ASR9k uses is from 'cat' BU, same fabric nexus7k uses (i.e. next-gen
cat6k fabric).

(In this sense 7600 with ES+ is lot more complex than ASR9k, as you need to
have both ES+ and PFC chips)

-- 
  ++ytti
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Re: [c-nsp] Certificate Update and Resource of CCIE

2011-10-04 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
Suggested Cisco Press titles for written and lab exams v3.0

MPLS Fundamentals (Luc De Ghein, ISBN-10:  1-58705-197-4 ,ISBN-13: 
978-1-58705-197-5)
MPLS and Next-Generation Networks: Foundations for NGN and Enterprise 
Virtualization (Azhar Sayeed, Monique J. Morrow, ISBN-10: 1-58720-120-8, 
ISBN-13: 978-1-58720-120-2) 
Comparing, Designing, and Deploying VPNs(Mark Lewis, ISBN-10: 1-58705-179-6, 
ISBN-13: 978-1-58705-179-1) 
Selecting MPLS VPN Services (Chris Lewis, Steve Pickavance, ISBN-10: 
1-58705-191-5, ISBN-13: 978-1-58705-191-3) 
Advanced MPLS Design and Implementation (Alwayn, ISBN# 158705020X) 
Building  MPLS-Based Broadband Access VPNs (Reddy, ISBN# 1587051362) 
Definitive MPLS Network Designs (Guichard, Le Faucheur, Vasseur, ISBN# 
1587051869) 
Layer 2 VPN  Architectures (Luo, Pignataro, Chan, Bokotey, ISBN# 1587051680) 
MPLS and VPN Architectures (Pepelnjak, Guichard, ISBN#   1587050021)
MPLS and VPN Architectures, Volume II (Pepelnjak, Guichard, Apcar,   ISBN# 
1587051125)
Traffic Engineering with MPLS (Osborne, Simha, ISBN# 1587050315) 
BGP Design and Implementation (Bartell, Zhang, ISBN# 1587051095) 
Cisco Self-Study: Building Cisco Metro Optical Networks (METRO) (Hartmann, 
Warren, ISBN#   1587050706) 
Definitive MPLS Network Designs (Guichard, Le Faucheur, Vasseur, ISBN# 
1587051869) 
End-to-End Qos Network Design: Quality of Service in LANs, WANs, and VPNs 
(Hattingh, Szigeti, ISBN#   1587051761) 
High Availability Network Fundamentals (Oggerino, ISBN# 1587130173) 
Interdomain Multicast Solutions Guide (Cisco Systems, Inc., ISBN# 1587050838) 
IP Quality of Service (Vegesna, ISBN# 1578701163) 
IS-IS Network Design Solutions (Martey, ISBN# 1578702208) 
Layer 2 VPN Architectures (Bokotey, Chan, Luo, Pignataro, ISBN# 1587051680) 
Metro Ethernet (Halabi, ISBN# 158705096X) 
MPLS Configuration on Cisco IOS Software (Lakshman, Lobo, ISBN#   
1587051990) 
MPLS VPN Security (Behringer, Morrow, ISBN# 1587051834) 
QoS for IP/MPLS Networks (Santiago Alvarez) 
Next-Generation Network Services (Wood, ISBN# 1587051591) 
Traffic Engineering with MPLS (Osborne, Simha, ISBN# 1587050315) 
Troubleshooting Virtual Private Networks (VPN) (Lewis, ISBN# 1587051044) 
Cisco IOS XR Fundamentals (Mobeen Tahir, Mark Ghattas, Dawit Birhanu, Syed 
Natif Nawaz, ISBN-10: 1-58705-271-7, ISBN-13: 978-1-58705-271-2) 
Global IPv6 Strategies: From Business Analysis to Operational Planning (Patrick 
Grossetete, Ciprian P. Popoviciu, Fred Wettling, Fred Wettling) 
Deploying IPv6 Networks (Ciprian Popoviciu, Eric Levy-Abegnoli, Patrick 
Grossetete)
Other Publications
MPLS: Next Steps (Bruce S. Davie; Adrian Farrel) 
MPLS and Label Switching Networks (2nd Edition) (Uyless D. Black) 
Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An 
Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (zhuo Xu) 
The Complete IS-IS Routing Protocol (Hannes Gredler and Walter Goralski) 
MPLS-Enabled Applications: Emerging Developments and New Technologies (Ina 
Minei; Julian Lucek) 
ATM Resource Library, Volumes 1, 2 And 3 (Black, Prentice Hall, ISBN# 
0137937792) 
Implementing ADSL (Ginsburg, Addison Wesley, ISBN #0201657600) 
Routing In the Internet, Second Edition (Huitema, Prentice Hall, ISBN# 
0130226475 )
TCP/IP Illustrated : Volumes 1, 2  and 3 (Stevens/Wright, Addison Wesley, ISBN# 
0201633469)


adam

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Fourpros it
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:02 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Certificate Update and Resource of CCIE

Hello Cisco -nsp group,

My CCNP certificate is about to expire and want to renew it with CCIE SP
written exam, can someone help me to find CCIE SP V3 (350-02) book?  From
where i can get this book  or someone please mail me the soft copy if you
have, it will be great help.

Thank You

Regards
Four Pros
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Re: [c-nsp] Certificate Update and Resource of CCIE

2011-10-04 Thread Tim Franklin
 Suggested Cisco Press titles for written and lab exams v3.0

[snip list]

And a big stack of CRS docs.  Because obviously you *can't* run a Service 
Provider without CRSen.  Just saying... ;)

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum traffic on Gigabit Ethernet

2011-10-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 04/10/2011 07:38, Manaf Al Oqlah wrote:
 Normal Configuration:
 
 interface GigabitEthernet5/2
 ip address x.x.x.x
 no ip redirects
 no ip proxy-arp
 media-type rj45
 
 MTU is default 1500

The GE ports on a VS-S720-10G-3C supervisor are each provisioned with 9.6MB
RX and 8.1MB TX buffers.  This is quite a respectable amount of buffer
space for a GE port, although if you have mls qos enabled, the default TX
configuration is 1p3q4t, configured as:

SP: 1.2MB
Q3: 1.2MB
Q2: 1.6MB
Q1: 4.1MB

This may not suit your traffic profile if everything is in a default
priority class, as you'll end up putting everything into q1.

reference paper:

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/prod_white_paper09186a0080131086.html

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] Certificate Update and Resource of CCIE

2011-10-04 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
Speaking of CRSes :) have anyone seen the XR compiled for AIX somewhere on the 
net?


adam

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tim Franklin
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:01 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Certificate Update and Resource of CCIE

 Suggested Cisco Press titles for written and lab exams v3.0

[snip list]

And a big stack of CRS docs.  Because obviously you *can't* run a Service 
Provider without CRSen.  Just saying... ;)

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum traffic on Gigabit Ethernet

2011-10-04 Thread John Gill

Manaf,
Your rate may be fine depending on packet size, for example 65 byte 
frames are less efficient in the hardware path and buffers than 64 
bytes.  You wouldn't expect more than about 760Mb/s in the best case 
with that size frame.  With no congestion and one continuous input, 
9000B frames can achieve about 990Mb/s.


So, the question here: is this a problem or an observation?  What rate 
do you expect?  Has anything changed?  Let's see if you have drops, also 
if you have CPU-switched flows, that will cause noticeable latency and 
will limit throughput.  Sniffing the traffic may show retransmissions, 
which would mean drops occur somewhere in the path.


The only thing you can do at this point, without changing the traffic 
flows (or can you?) is to look at drops and adjust buffer settings if 
desired.


For dropping traffic, you can look at show int gi 5/2 and see if Total 
output drops is increasing.


Also look at show queueing interface gi 5/2 and at the bottom you 
should see packets dropped on transmit and dropped on receive.  See if 
these are incrementing.


Finally, if you are getting software drops somewhere on input, you need 
to look at all other L3 interfaces that could possibly send traffic here 
(including this one) for input queue drops in software:

sh int | inc is up|queue

Interesting output would look like this:
...
TenGigabitEthernet2/3 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
 Input queue: 3/2000/189/15 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops:0
...
TenGigabitEthernet2/3 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
 Input queue: 18/2000/264/16 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output 
drops: 0


Notice how drops and flushes have incremented here, indicating 
congestion to the software path (CPU punt).  There are many reasons 
traffic might be punted, but let's see if that's the case first.


Regards,
John Gill
cisco

On 10/4/11 5:49 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:

On 04/10/2011 07:38, Manaf Al Oqlah wrote:

Normal Configuration:

interface GigabitEthernet5/2
ip address x.x.x.x
no ip redirects
no ip proxy-arp
media-type rj45

MTU is default 1500


The GE ports on a VS-S720-10G-3C supervisor are each provisioned with 9.6MB
RX and 8.1MB TX buffers.  This is quite a respectable amount of buffer
space for a GE port, although if you have mls qos enabled, the default TX
configuration is 1p3q4t, configured as:

SP: 1.2MB
Q3: 1.2MB
Q2: 1.6MB
Q1: 4.1MB

This may not suit your traffic profile if everything is in a default
priority class, as you'll end up putting everything into q1.

reference paper:


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/prod_white_paper09186a0080131086.html


Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] Max IPv6 route entries for Cisco 4948E

2011-10-04 Thread Lobo

Thanks for the info!

Jose

On 10/1/2011 6:07 PM, Tóth András wrote:

Hi Jose,

The 57000 is shared between IPv4 and IPv6.

Best regards,
Andras

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Loboloboti...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hey everyone.  We're looking at the 4948E as a possible replacement for our
aging 3550-12Ts and we were wondering if anyone has any information with
regards to the maximum number of ipv6 routes that it will be able to hold.
  The only information I've found is that the device has 57,000 routes
maximum but it doesn't say if that number also applies for ipv6.  Based on
other platforms, I'm thinking that maybe it will be half of that?

Thanks for any info you guys can provide.

Jose
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Re: [c-nsp] GBIC requires restart after link loss

2011-10-04 Thread John Kougoulos



On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Martin T wrote:


WS-C2960G-24TC-L[Gi0/22] - [Gi3/4]WS-C4506

SFP in WS-C2960G-24TC-L is a noname 1000BASE-LX10 transceiver working
thanks to service unsupported-transceiver. GBIC in WS-C4506 is an
Avago AFCT-5611Z 1000BASE-LX10. Linecard model in WS-C4506 is
WS-X4306-GB.

I had a situation where WS-C2960G-24TC-L reloaded, but link between
WS-C2960G-24TC-L and WS-C4506 did not came up until I did shutdown
and no shutdown to port Gi3/4 in WS-C4506. I have seen similar
behaviour with GBIC transceivers on WS-X4306 linecard as well(in
another WS-C4506) and for example in case there is a fibre cut between
the switches, once the cable is repaired, sometimes one needs to make
shutdown and no shutdow to GBIC port in order for line protocol to
come up.



Martin,

check this bugid: CSCsq54639

Regards,
John
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Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

2011-10-04 Thread Mack McBride
The 9K uses a crossbar fabric evolved from the 6500/7600 (not the same as the 
GSR - CRS evolved fabric)
The port interface chips are the same.
The NPU chip is the same as used in the ES cards.
Primary difference is in the way the FIB is run on the 9K vs DFC on the 7600.
Basically they 9K uses the NPU to do more than the 7600 so it is in a lot of 
ways more efficient
but it is also more 'software' based (not necessarily a bad thing as it is more 
flexible).

Being evolved from the 7600 should give users confidence that it is solid.
That is a good thing.  But it isn't so revolutionary that the 7600 is 
completely obsolete.
After discounts the 9K still cost more but has a longer life expectancy.

Mack

-Original Message-
From: Jason Lixfeld [mailto:ja...@lixfeld.ca] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:27 PM
To: Mack McBride
Cc: mti...@globaltransit.net; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

On 2011-10-03, at 11:37 PM, Mack McBride wrote:

 The 7600 and ASR9000 use a lot of similar hardware (Cisco didn't reinvent the 
 wheel they just added rims).

Where?

 The ASR line cards resemble the ES series on the 7600.

Where?  If one is using an ES port on a 7600, I'd assume one is likely using 
EVCs on said port.  The ES ports on the 7600s do not support SPAN on a physical 
interface that is configured with EVCs.  The ASR9k thankfully supports this 
extremely basic feature.  The 7600 ES port's lack of SPAN on an EVC would lead 
me to believe that the ASIC controlling the ES is very different than the ASIC 
controlling the ASR linecards.



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Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

2011-10-04 Thread guru6111
7600 is 80G per slot
ASR9K is 180G per slot (with both RP working) in future with new RP you can get 
more density per slot, so more salable.


Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

-Original Message-
From: Mack McBride mack.mcbr...@viawest.com
Sender: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:49:22 
To: Jason Lixfeldja...@lixfeld.ca
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netcisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

The 9K uses a crossbar fabric evolved from the 6500/7600 (not the same as the 
GSR - CRS evolved fabric)
The port interface chips are the same.
The NPU chip is the same as used in the ES cards.
Primary difference is in the way the FIB is run on the 9K vs DFC on the 7600.
Basically they 9K uses the NPU to do more than the 7600 so it is in a lot of 
ways more efficient
but it is also more 'software' based (not necessarily a bad thing as it is more 
flexible).

Being evolved from the 7600 should give users confidence that it is solid.
That is a good thing.  But it isn't so revolutionary that the 7600 is 
completely obsolete.
After discounts the 9K still cost more but has a longer life expectancy.

Mack

-Original Message-
From: Jason Lixfeld [mailto:ja...@lixfeld.ca] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:27 PM
To: Mack McBride
Cc: mti...@globaltransit.net; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

On 2011-10-03, at 11:37 PM, Mack McBride wrote:

 The 7600 and ASR9000 use a lot of similar hardware (Cisco didn't reinvent the 
 wheel they just added rims).

Where?

 The ASR line cards resemble the ES series on the 7600.

Where?  If one is using an ES port on a 7600, I'd assume one is likely using 
EVCs on said port.  The ES ports on the 7600s do not support SPAN on a physical 
interface that is configured with EVCs.  The ASR9k thankfully supports this 
extremely basic feature.  The 7600 ES port's lack of SPAN on an EVC would lead 
me to believe that the ASIC controlling the ES is very different than the ASIC 
controlling the ASR linecards.



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Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

2011-10-04 Thread Mack McBride
It is an improvement but not much (with current gen RP).
The primary improvement is using both fabric channels as active/active.

Mack

-Original Message-
From: guru6...@gmail.com [mailto:guru6...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:06 PM
To: Mack McBride; cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net; Jason Lixfeld
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

7600 is 80G per slot
ASR9K is 180G per slot (with both RP working) in future with new RP you can get 
more density per slot, so more salable.


Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

-Original Message-
From: Mack McBride mack.mcbr...@viawest.com
Sender: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:49:22 
To: Jason Lixfeldja...@lixfeld.ca
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netcisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

The 9K uses a crossbar fabric evolved from the 6500/7600 (not the same as the 
GSR - CRS evolved fabric)
The port interface chips are the same.
The NPU chip is the same as used in the ES cards.
Primary difference is in the way the FIB is run on the 9K vs DFC on the 7600.
Basically they 9K uses the NPU to do more than the 7600 so it is in a lot of 
ways more efficient
but it is also more 'software' based (not necessarily a bad thing as it is more 
flexible).

Being evolved from the 7600 should give users confidence that it is solid.
That is a good thing.  But it isn't so revolutionary that the 7600 is 
completely obsolete.
After discounts the 9K still cost more but has a longer life expectancy.

Mack

-Original Message-
From: Jason Lixfeld [mailto:ja...@lixfeld.ca] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:27 PM
To: Mack McBride
Cc: mti...@globaltransit.net; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

On 2011-10-03, at 11:37 PM, Mack McBride wrote:

 The 7600 and ASR9000 use a lot of similar hardware (Cisco didn't reinvent the 
 wheel they just added rims).

Where?

 The ASR line cards resemble the ES series on the 7600.

Where?  If one is using an ES port on a 7600, I'd assume one is likely using 
EVCs on said port.  The ES ports on the 7600s do not support SPAN on a physical 
interface that is configured with EVCs.  The ASR9k thankfully supports this 
extremely basic feature.  The 7600 ES port's lack of SPAN on an EVC would lead 
me to believe that the ASIC controlling the ES is very different than the ASIC 
controlling the ASR linecards.



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Re: [c-nsp] GBIC requires restart after link loss

2011-10-04 Thread Martin T
John,
thank you for this bug ID! In case I'll have an opportunity to test
those Avago AFCT-5611Z GBIC's further, I'll let you all know about the
results.


regards,
martin


2011/10/4 John Kougoulos k...@intracom.gr:


 On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Martin T wrote:

 WS-C2960G-24TC-L[Gi0/22] - [Gi3/4]WS-C4506

 SFP in WS-C2960G-24TC-L is a noname 1000BASE-LX10 transceiver working
 thanks to service unsupported-transceiver. GBIC in WS-C4506 is an
 Avago AFCT-5611Z 1000BASE-LX10. Linecard model in WS-C4506 is
 WS-X4306-GB.

 I had a situation where WS-C2960G-24TC-L reloaded, but link between
 WS-C2960G-24TC-L and WS-C4506 did not came up until I did shutdown
 and no shutdown to port Gi3/4 in WS-C4506. I have seen similar
 behaviour with GBIC transceivers on WS-X4306 linecard as well(in
 another WS-C4506) and for example in case there is a fibre cut between
 the switches, once the cable is repaired, sometimes one needs to make
 shutdown and no shutdow to GBIC port in order for line protocol to
 come up.


 Martin,

 check this bugid: CSCsq54639

 Regards,
 John

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[c-nsp] 2800 series IOS versions.

2011-10-04 Thread Keith

Have a 2811 and a 2801.

The 2801 runs this:

c2801-ipbase-mz.124-1c.bin

The 2811 runs:

c2800nm-ipbase-mz.123-8.T5.bin

What does the nm part of the version mean on the 2811?

These are just routers we bought as we had some budget and have used them
for lab stuff off and on.

THanks.


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Re: [c-nsp] 2800 series IOS versions.

2011-10-04 Thread Ryan West
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 19:00:37, Keith wrote:
 Subject: [c-nsp] 2800 series IOS versions.
 
 
 Have a 2811 and a 2801.
 
 The 2801 runs this:
 
 c2801-ipbase-mz.124-1c.bin
 
 The 2811 runs:
 
 c2800nm-ipbase-mz.123-8.T5.bin
 
 What does the nm part of the version mean on the 2811?
 

Network module.  And that's just the naming convention of the 2801 vs the rest 
of the 2800 line.

-ryan

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Re: [c-nsp] 2800 series IOS versions.

2011-10-04 Thread Keith
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Jay Hennigan wrote:

|-On 10/4/11 4:00 PM, Keith wrote:
|-
|- Have a 2811 and a 2801.
|-
|- The 2801 runs this:
|-
|- c2801-ipbase-mz.124-1c.bin
|-
|- The 2811 runs:
|-
|- c2800nm-ipbase-mz.123-8.T5.bin
|-
|- What does the nm part of the version mean on the 2811?
|-
|-The nm means that it supports network modules (the trapezoidal plug-ins
|-for expansion).  All of the 28xx series except the 2801 support these.
|-
|-I've never tried it but suspect that IOS between the two is not going to
|-be interchangeable.

Thanks Jay. Not looking to upgrade them at the moment, we just bang on
them in our little lab room. Been looking over Cisco's website but could
not find what the nm acutally stood for and what it meant.

Thanks again.
Keith.
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Re: [c-nsp] 2800 series IOS versions.

2011-10-04 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 10/4/11 4:00 PM, Keith wrote:
 
 Have a 2811 and a 2801.
 
 The 2801 runs this:
 
 c2801-ipbase-mz.124-1c.bin
 
 The 2811 runs:
 
 c2800nm-ipbase-mz.123-8.T5.bin
 
 What does the nm part of the version mean on the 2811?

The nm means that it supports network modules (the trapezoidal plug-ins
for expansion).  All of the 28xx series except the 2801 support these.

I've never tried it but suspect that IOS between the two is not going to
be interchangeable.

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K - Multicast Question

2011-10-04 Thread Antonio Soares
You’re right, it works if the N7K is the DR is that segment. Now the mroute
table shows what I was expecting:

 

N7K12(config-if)# sh ip mroute

IP Multicast Routing Table for VRF default

 

(*, 232.0.0.0/8), uptime: 00:13:29, pim ip 

  Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr: 0.0.0.0

  Outgoing interface list: (count: 0)

 

(*, 239.1.2.3/32), uptime: 00:04:55, pim ip igmp 

  Incoming interface: Ethernet1/27, RPF nbr: 10.12.2.2

  Outgoing interface list: (count: 1)

Ethernet1/27, uptime: 00:00:30, igmp, (RPF)

 

(10.12.1.1/32, 239.1.2.3/32), uptime: 00:04:53, ip mrib pim 

  Incoming interface: Ethernet1/27, RPF nbr: 10.12.2.2

  Outgoing interface list: (count: 1)

Ethernet1/27, uptime: 00:00:30, mrib, (RPF)

 

N7K12(config-if)#

 

 

Thank you for clarifying this difference between IOS and NXOS.

 

 

Regards,

 

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
 mailto:amsoa...@netcabo.pt amsoa...@netcabo.pt

 http://www.ccie18473.net http://www.ccie18473.net

 

 

From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com] 
Sent: domingo, 2 de Outubro de 2011 01:35
To: Antonio Soares; Phil Mayers; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K - Multicast Question

 

Interface e1/27 on n7k12 appears to be connected to g2/2 on the 6500. I rest
my case. ;)

Tim

At 12:40 PM 10/1/2011, Antonio Soares contended:



Hello Tim,
 
Very simple setup:
 
N7K11===CAT6500===N7K12
 
The RP is the CAT6500. The relevant configs bellow:
 
CAT6500 (The RP):
 
ip multicast-routing
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.255
ip pim sparse-mode
!
interface GigabitEthernet2/1
ip address 10.12.1.2 255.255.255.0
ip pim sparse-mode
!
interface GigabitEthernet2/2
ip address 10.12.2.2 255.255.255.0
ip pim sparse-mode
no ip mroute-cache
!
ip pim rp-address 3.3.3.3
!
 
N7K11 (The source):
 
feature ospf
feature pim
 
interface Ethernet1/27
  ip address 10.12.1.1/24
  ip router ospf 1 area 0.0.0.0
  ip pim sparse-mode
  no shutdown
 
ip pim rp-address 3.3.3.3 group-list 224.0.0.0/4
ip pim ssm range 232.0.0.0/8
 
N7K12 (The destination)
 
feature ospf
feature pim
 
interface Ethernet1/27
  ip address 10.12.2.1/24
  ip router ospf 1 area 0.0.0.0
  ip pim sparse-mode
  ip igmp join-group 239.1.2.3
  no shutdown
 
ip pim rp-address 3.3.3.3 group-list 224.0.0.0/4
ip pim ssm range 232.0.0.0/8
 
It works if the ip igmp join is moved to the loopback interface on the
N7K12.
 
 
Thanks.
 
Regards,
 
Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net http://www.ccie18473.net/ 
 
 
From: Tim Stevenson [ mailto:tstev...@cisco.com mailto:tstev...@cisco.com
] 
Sent: sábado, 1 de Outubro de 2011 16:06
To: Antonio Soares; Phil Mayers; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K - Multicast Question
 
Hi Antonio, 

Can you please describe the exact topology here? Which interfaces you're
using, what they're connected to, and where is the RP?

One thing to be aware of with NXOS is that things only show up in sh ip
mroute if the client protocol/process (eg IGMP in this case) has reason to
feed them there. sh ip mroute is basically looking at the MRIB view of the
world and nothing else. 

WRT the ip igmp join-group command, it does two things: one is it causes
that interface to send IGMP joins for that group out that interface as if it
were a host. The other is that, if the router is PIM DR on that interface,
it feeds the *G  the OIF to the MRIB. It's only at that point you'll see
the entry in sh ip mroute. Otherwise, you'll only see it in the IGMP group
membership table, ie, sh ip igmp group.

My guess here is you're not DR on this interface, so I assume there's
another router on the segment that IS the DR. If you check the mrouting
there I suspect you'll see the *G entry joined to the RPT (driven by the
IGMP joins sent on that segment from the router w/the join-group command).

WRT the loopback working, what you're seeing is that this router is now
the only means by which to reach that 'network segment' (ie, it's obviously
going to be DR on its own loopback) so it will report the *G  OIF to the
MRIB and then you'll see the entry in sh ip mroute.

Hope that helps,
Tim


At 03:24 AM 10/1/2011, Antonio Soares contended:


This is lab environment, I'm just testing basic multicast features with
nexus.

The command reference says the following:

When you enter this command, the traffic generated is handled by the device
CPU, not the hardware.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/multicast/c

ommand/reference/mcr_cmds_i.html#wp1230243

The ip igmp static-group was replaced by the command:

ip igmp static-oif

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/multicast/c

ommand/reference/mcr_cmds_i.html#wp1034808

When I have the igmp joing on the physical interface, the (*,G) entry is
created then it disappears. But I see the (*,G) entry on the RP and I
verified that the traffic is actually sent to the nexus.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K - Multicast Question

2011-10-04 Thread Tim Stevenson

Hi Antonio,

Just would like to be perfectly clear what's 
going on here: sh ip mroute on NXOS shows the 
MRIB. The MRIB is specifically for multicast *routing* information.


In the original scenario you described, where the 
join-group is configured on the upstream (RPF) 
interface and the 7k is not the PIM DR, no 
*mrouting* is required or being performed - the 
7k is behaving as a host, ie, sending IGMP joins 
to pull the traffic. So you'll only see that 
state in sh ip igmp groups, not sh ip mroute. 
Note that you should still see the multicast 
traffic arriving on the n7k RPF interface (thru sh int).


In the case of the loopback, mrouting *is* 
required, ie, in order to multicast route the 
multicast from the RPF interface to the loopback 
- so IGMP feeds the group information and OIF to 
the MRIB to enable the mrouting.


This is all just a side effect of the modular 
architecture of the NXOS software - IGMP, the 
MRIB, PIM, MSDP etc etc are all independent 
processes and each maintains its own state based 
on what it needs to know; and each only tells 
other process(es) about that state when its actually necessary.



Hope that helps,
Tim


At 04:56 PM 10/4/2011, Antonio Soares contended:
You’re right, it works if the N7K is the DR is 
that segment. Now the mroute table shows what I was expecting:


N7K12(config-if)# sh ip mroute
IP Multicast Routing Table for VRF default

(*, 232.0.0.0/8), uptime: 00:13:29, pim ip
  Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr: 0.0.0.0
  Outgoing interface list: (count: 0)

(*, 239.1.2.3/32), uptime: 00:04:55, pim ip igmp
  Incoming interface: Ethernet1/27, RPF nbr: 10.12.2.2
  Outgoing interface list: (count: 1)
Ethernet1/27, uptime: 00:00:30, igmp, (RPF)

(10.12.1.1/32, 239.1.2.3/32), uptime: 00:04:53, ip mrib pim
  Incoming interface: Ethernet1/27, RPF nbr: 10.12.2.2
  Outgoing interface list: (count: 1)
Ethernet1/27, uptime: 00:00:30, mrib, (RPF)

N7K12(config-if)#


Thank you for clarifying this difference between IOS and NXOS.


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
mailto:amsoa...@netcabo.ptamsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: domingo, 2 de Outubro de 2011 01:35
To: Antonio Soares; Phil Mayers; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K - Multicast Question

Interface e1/27 on n7k12 appears to be connected 
to g2/2 on the 6500. I rest my case. ;)


Tim

At 12:40 PM 10/1/2011, Antonio Soares contended:

Hello Tim,

Very simple setup:

N7K11===CAT6500===N7K12

The RP is the CAT6500. The relevant configs bellow:

CAT6500 (The RP):

ip multicast-routing
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.255
ip pim sparse-mode
!
interface GigabitEthernet2/1
ip address 10.12.1.2 255.255.255.0
ip pim sparse-mode
!
interface GigabitEthernet2/2
ip address 10.12.2.2 255.255.255.0
ip pim sparse-mode
no ip mroute-cache
!
ip pim rp-address 3.3.3.3
!

N7K11 (The source):

feature ospf
feature pim

interface Ethernet1/27
  ip address 10.12.1.1/24
  ip router ospf 1 area 0.0.0.0
  ip pim sparse-mode
  no shutdown

ip pim rp-address 3.3.3.3 group-list 224.0.0.0/4
ip pim ssm range 232.0.0.0/8

N7K12 (The destination)

feature ospf
feature pim

interface Ethernet1/27
  ip address 10.12.2.1/24
  ip router ospf 1 area 0.0.0.0
  ip pim sparse-mode
  ip igmp join-group 239.1.2.3
  no shutdown

ip pim rp-address 3.3.3.3 group-list 224.0.0.0/4
ip pim ssm range 232.0.0.0/8

It works if the ip igmp join is moved to the loopback interface on the N7K12.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
mailto:amsoa...@netcabo.ptamsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


From: Tim Stevenson [ mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: sábado, 1 de Outubro de 2011 16:06
To: Antonio Soares; Phil Mayers; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K - Multicast Question

Hi Antonio,

Can you please describe the exact topology here? 
Which interfaces you're using, what they're connected to, and where is the RP?


One thing to be aware of with NXOS is that 
things only show up in sh ip mroute if the 
client protocol/process (eg IGMP in this case) 
has reason to feed them there. sh ip mroute is 
basically looking at the MRIB view of the world and nothing else.


WRT the ip igmp join-group command, it does two 
things: one is it causes that interface to send 
IGMP joins for that group out that interface as 
if it were a host. The other is that, if the 
router is PIM DR on that interface, it feeds the 
*G  the OIF to the MRIB. It's only at that 
point you'll see the entry in sh ip mroute. 
Otherwise, you'll only see it in the IGMP group 
membership table, ie, sh ip igmp group.


My guess here is you're not DR on this 
interface, so I assume there's another router on 
the segment that IS the DR. If you check the 
mrouting there I suspect you'll see the *G entry 
joined to the RPT (driven by the IGMP joins sent 
on that segment from the router w/the join-group command).


WRT the loopback working, 

Re: [c-nsp] C7600 vs. ASR 9000

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 02:12:53 AM Mack McBride 
wrote:

 It is an improvement but not much (with current gen RP).
 The primary improvement is using both fabric channels as
 active/active.

On the software side, one thing I would say is that before 
you buy an ASR9000, make sure RPL does what you want. If it 
doesn't, that's not an excuse not to buy it either, but just 
one to ask your SE to get the features you want implemented.

As I've said on this list before, the RPL model, while much 
improved from the route-map one, is less intuitive and not 
on par with what we've known from classic IOS.

A number of features I requested are in the works, but your 
environment might be a little more different.

Simple installations should not have an issue, as RPL covers 
pretty much everything for your basic routing policy.

Mark.


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