Re: [c-nsp] Looping up far end smartjack

2010-06-28 Thread Paul G. Timmins
Fiber fed ones aren't - but usually the copper loop fed ones are.

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Adam Korab
 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:01 PM
 To: Richey
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Looping up far end smartjack
 
 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Richey myli...@battleop.com wrote:
 
  I was hoping to avoid having to go to the colo late at night.   We
 did
  finally hear from the customer. A breaker had tripped and they person
 on
  duty had no idea where the breakers were in the building.
 
 
 T1 duty was long ago in a galaxy far away for me...but aren't NIUs all
 line-powered?  That is, wouldn't you want to loop the remote CSU/DSU
 anyway
 to confirm power?
 
 --Adam
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ISP Essentials - Book Not For Sale

2010-05-05 Thread Paul G. Timmins
I was able to get a copy from Amazon as a used copy.

2 new from $59.99 8 used from $39.95

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 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Felix Nkansah
 Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:42 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco ISP Essentials - Book Not For Sale
 
 Hi,
 
 The book may appear dated (2002) but most of us still find it useful.
 
 I just checked the Cisco Press website with the intention of buying a
 few
 hard copies.
 
 However, the site says of the book
 http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587050412This
 publication is not for sale.
 
 Which other good books still in print would you recommend as an ISP
 operations  practices guide?
 
 Thanks. Felix
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Re: [c-nsp] DC Inverters

2010-03-29 Thread Paul G. Timmins
You mean DC rectifiers for turning AC into DC?

If you are going through the trouble, why not throw on a small chain of deep 
cycles to smooth things out and let you run a bit in a power outage?

-Paul



From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] on 
behalf of Charles Mills [w3y...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:36 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] DC Inverters

Is anyone running DC for their Cisco 6509's and just using rack mount
DC inverters in lieu of having a DC Power Plant?

And..if so, what's everyone using for their inverters?   Any to avoid
or to recommend?

Chuck
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Re: [c-nsp] Unified IOS (15.x) and feature based licensing model

2010-03-24 Thread Paul G. Timmins
I think it makes my choice to use Adtran CPE well placed. Except for their lack 
of IPv6 support *grumble*


From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] on 
behalf of Tim Franklin [...@pelican.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:43 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Unified IOS (15.x) and feature based licensing model

 What do others think of this new paradigm?

I think the enforced licensing is going to give me a whole lot of operational 
pain.  Installing CPE in volume (and not even *real* residential-type volumes, 
I'm only talking tens per week) seems like it's going to need a big manual 
addition to the process to generate license keys and get them installed on the 
*right* CPE.

I haven't even looked into the ifs and hows of revoking them or transferring 
them to another box in the event of a hardware failure / swap-out.

To me, it looks horribly similar to the entertainment industry.  We're not 
making enough money leads to someone must be taking something without paying, 
or we'd make as much money as is in our business plan, leads to let's do X to 
ensure everyone pays.  The user experience for *legitimate customers* gets 
worse, and the people who are prepared to resort to illegitimate means, or get 
their products from somewhere else still don't hand over the missing money.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] strange ipv6 problems on 3550 SVI

2010-03-19 Thread Paul G. Timmins

 Feature Navigator is wrong - as usual. 3550 does not have hw support for
 IPv6, therefore no support for it. No plan, according to BU (have this
 info via our account manager), to support
 IPv6 on these switches. Go for 3560 or 3750
 
 
 Best Regards,
Janos Mohacsi

What's worse is, the CLI supports IPv6 and it looks like it works, but it 
definitely does not.

-Paul
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Re: [c-nsp] ipv6 cheat sheet

2009-11-25 Thread Paul G. Timmins
You can subnet ipv6 with your eyeballs, just add or subtract 4 from the
prefix length for every character you move to the left or right.

1234:1234:1234:1234::/64
1234:1234:1234:123X::/60
1234:1234:1234:12XX::/56
1234:1234:1234:1XXX::/52
1234:1234:1234::/48

etc

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Good One
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:54 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] ipv6 cheat sheet



Hello guys,

Did you find any cheat sheet for IPv6 subnetting anywhere?


  
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Re: [c-nsp] IPV6 in general was Re: Large networks

2009-08-26 Thread Paul G. Timmins
We've got paying customers who came to us specifically because we
support it. Our last decision for IP transport had IPv6 as a
requirement. YMMV.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:58 PM
To: Ivan Pepelnjak; 'Gert Doering'; 'Mikael Abrahamsson'
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] IPV6 in general was Re: Large networks

I'm interested in general, how much IPV6 is actually out there?  I'm
very 
unfamiliar but at my present gig and my last few I never ran in to this 
once. Is it actually being used in production?

Thank you
Scott


- Original Message - 
From: Ivan Pepelnjak i...@ioshints.info
To: 'Gert Doering' g...@greenie.muc.de; 'Mikael Abrahamsson' 
swm...@swm.pp.se
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Large networks


  Well, I think that it's reckless to spend 4 globally routable IP
  addresses instead of 1 per customer, when all you do is save a few
  minutes of time per installation.

 As I said: our customers usually use many more IP addresses
 than just one.

 And, of course, you're welcome to join us in IPv6 land where
 this sort of last century thinking does not need to worry
 us any longer :-)

 Some of us still have to live with reality where IPv6 deployment is
 negligible :) ... And don't forget some IBM mainframes are still
forced to
 run operating systems emulating 80-column card reader :D

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

2009-07-15 Thread Paul G. Timmins
As far as I know, changing the router ID will take care of clearing the
BGP tables for you. :) It should reset all sessions.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Cartier
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:49 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

Just checking something that I haven't been able to verify online...

 

Changing the bgp router-id manually will require you to clear the bgp
sessions?  Correct?

 

Thanks!!!

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Re: [c-nsp] IPV6 to IPV4

2009-07-15 Thread Paul G. Timmins
Dual Stack.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chintan Shah
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:08 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] IPV6 to IPV4

Hi,

The IPV6 host has to communicate to some IPV4 on Internet, I can use
NAT-PT
one but I see that it is now no more recommended.

So, what is best translation mechanism achieve this when I being ISP
provide
IPV6 Internet service to my customer?

 Regards,

CS
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Re: [c-nsp] Extended demarc

2009-07-08 Thread Paul G. Timmins
If you're asking about T1s, we've extended a demarc 23 stories over
Category 0 building pair from the 70s or 80s and the circuit has run
flawlessly. You have to test the cables when they're that old due to
building sway causing shorts and things like that, but it works. T1s are
designed to go several miles without repeaters on cable you'd barely
want to run voice over.

Ethernet IIRC can only go 300 meters or something like that, regardless
of how fancy your cable is due to timing issues and the speed of light.
But I don't extend Ethernet very often so I'm not an expert in that
part.

-Paul

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of james edwards
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:41 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Extended demarc

What is a real word limit on how far you can extend the demarc ? This is
on
Cat5e cable. I get wildly different figures from Google.


Thanks,

-- 
James H. Edwards
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Judicial Information Division
jedwa...@nmcourts.gov
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Re: [c-nsp] PIX/ASA Change Control

2009-06-26 Thread Paul G. Timmins
We use subversion, and giving web access to the repository through the
normal subversion frontend, no special additions, works for us, but our
needs have been basically just to get a last known good configuration to
blow onto a customer's replacement unit prior to dispatching a
technician. Works pretty well, as you can just download the file from
the repository, put it on the unit with xmodem over the serial port as
the startup-config, reboot, and you've got an identical copy of what was
there.

We do this with Adtran Total Access 900 and Netvanta gear and our Cisco
CPE using the same config in Rancid (using cisco as the type works
just fine for Adtran AOS based gear) and it's a lifesaver.

-Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Justin Shore
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:25 AM
 To: Ryan West
 Cc: Cisco-nsp; rancid-disc...@shrubbery.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] PIX/ASA Change Control
 
 Ryan West wrote:
  I'm curious to see what others are using for a frontend to RANCID.
 Besides the emailing of the diff's that take place, what are others
 using to browse the repository?
 
 I'm not a CVS buff so I'm sure someone that falls into that category
 would have a better solution.  I currently just use the standard
cvsweb
 CGI.  It works well enough.  I keep it in a password protected
 directory
 on my servers.  Not overly elegant but it works well enough.
 
 Does anyone else have any other suggestions for a web GUI front-end to
 CVS for RANCID use?
 
 Justin
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Re: [c-nsp] Adding member to Multilink PPP during production

2009-04-24 Thread Paul G. Timmins
We do this all the time in carrier scenarios, carrying voip. I've never
seen a problem with taking out members of ppp multilink groups at
random, and re-adding them at random. It might cause a packet or two to
drop when the link goes away unexpectedly.

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Wojciechowski
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:31 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Adding member to Multilink PPP during production
 
 Hi all,
 
 We took down one of our 3 T1's in a PPP multilink group last night so
 that the LEC could replace a cable pair.
 
 Is it safe to add it back to the bundle during production hours? We've
 got mostly VoIP and Citrix traffic traversing that WAN link. Naturally
 it's the VoIP that I am mostly concerned about.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff
 

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Re: [c-nsp] Rancid and commercial config management tools

2009-02-05 Thread Paul G. Timmins
If I were you, I'd package up Rancid, call it JoeWare, and bill them a
ton for it. :) 

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Joe Loiacono
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: Cisco-NSP Mailing List
 Subject: [c-nsp] Rancid and commercial config management tools
 
 I realize RANCID is a great tool for keeping track of IOS 
 changes, etc., 
 but if a client was looking for a commercial tool that does 
 this, what 
 would you  recommend?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe Loiacono
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[c-nsp] Backing up a 15454 over TL1 - Database Is Busy

2009-01-07 Thread Paul G. Timmins
I have a ONS that I am backing up over TL1. If I run the program I wrote
to handle the TL1 manually, it works after a couple of tries. If I
connect in directly and type the commands, it runs properly almost every
time.

Running from cron, I always get an error about the database being busy.

Anyone here ever done this before? Have any pointers?

-Original Message-

WARNING

Only authorized persons may use this system for legal and proper
purposes as determined solely by Clear Rate.
By using this system, you consent to monitoring.

 ACT-USER::monitoring:A286::*;

   X-CR-ONS1 2009-01-07 19:00:01
M  A286 COMPLD
   monitoring:2009-01-07 17-00-02,0
;

   X-CR-ONS1 2009-01-07 19:00:01
A  0 REPT EVT SESSION
   XX-CR-ONS1:NO,
   /* TL1 Agent Copyright (c) 1999-2007 Cisco Systems, Inc.

WARNING

Only authorized persons may use this system for legal and proper
purposes as determined solely by Clear Rate.
By using this system, you consent to monitoring.
  User monitoring logged in from x.x.x.x */
;
End of login
COPY-RFILE::RFILE-DB:A998::TYPE=RFBU,DEST=FTP://redactedurlcontainingus
ernameandpassword/ons1-backup.pkg;
Config Downloaded
CANC-USER::monitoring:A595;

   XX-CR-ONS1 2009-01-07 19:00:01
M  A998 DENY
   SROF
   /* Database Is Busy */
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Re: [c-nsp] OK, what is a cheap and dirty hack to test a port

2008-10-15 Thread Paul G. Timmins
Most modern sonet gear does not provide clocking to individual DS1s
running it. The only reason clocking ever existed on point to point
circuits was that the older gear couldn't avoid being an active
participant in the circuit. It's possible the carrier you're using has
upgraded the equipment, and where it was once providing the clocking
(which it couldn't avoid previously), it's now on gear that can now act
indistinguishably from a straight piece of wire (of course, it has to
follow T1 line encoding and framing, but beyond that..).

I've seen this plenty over the last 5 years as carriers upgrade, and
roll DS3s onto newer gear. One night, the clocking gets funky, and you
have to enable clock, which was causing problems before, but now works
fine.

(Of course, we don't feel it as much, because we are syncing our gear
off the BITS in our CO, so we'd be in sync with the ILEC whether we
provide clocking or not, so we just provide clocking on our end of all
loops, and slave the customer sites.)
 
It's also possible for two devices set to clock off line to work for a
while, without anyone providing external clock. Since there's not really
a clock signal per se, but just a directive that says whether your
internal source is authorative, or whether you should be sending your
own frames in sync with the frames you're getting off the line, both
devices can feed off of each other (a device without line clock will
fall back to internal clock, and start sending frames. The other device
will see the clock signal on the line, and sync with it. Then the
original device sees the framing on the line, and syncs with that. The
devices then sync off whatever each other are sending. Because this
isn't precise (but can be precise enough), it's possible for the line
to work for a while like that, until power blips, line hits, or random
cosmic noise cause the whole thing to fall apart).

Anyway, the network has to actively participate in the circuit to
provide clock, and the field has been running away from this for
years. Set one side to line clock, and one to internal, and forget it.
It's a single line of config. :)

-Paul

PS: I'm using the term providing clock because that's what we're
calling it in this thread. The way you should actually think about it
though, is using your own clock reference, or using the reference coming
from the line. In the PSTN world, everyone provides clock (uses their
own clock reference) and you don't trust the line clock from anywhere.
Because your clock references are in sync with each other (because
you're syncing off a cesium reference, using GPS, or CDMA, or you have a
BITS T1 from the local LEC, or some combination of those) everything
works flawlessly (insofar as that's possible in real life). CPE aren't
expected to have their own stratum 1 reference clock, so they just trust
the line signal. If you're connecting CPE to CPE, you're going to have
to provide your own reference clock, and it doesn't have to be stratum 1
since you're not interfacing with anyone else (unless you're passing
through some real old DACS or Mux gear that actively participates in the
circuit, rather than just encapsulating it in a DS3 and sending it on
its way through the network) it doesn't have to be in sync.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luan Nguyen
 Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:51 AM
 To: 'Roy'
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OK, what is a cheap and dirty hack to test a port
 
 It's on fiber.  I asked if we could get network timing from 
 them, but they
 said no, not on this type of circuit. 
 Also, this circuit has been working for years with the same setting :)
 
 Luan Nguyen
 Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
 www.NetCraftsmen.net
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy
 Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:36 AM
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OK, what is a cheap and dirty hack to test a port
 
 Just because its a point to point circuit doesn't mean one side has to
 have internal clocking.  This is only true if the circuit is 
 copper all
 the way.   There are lots of reasons that the telco would have its own
 equipment installed on the circuit and you would need network timing.
 
 Roy
 
 Luan Nguyen wrote:
  Is it a Verizon circuit?
  We have a T1 circuit with Verizon and have the same 
 problem.  We have a
  point to point circuit, so one side has clocking set to internal to
 provide
  the clocking and the other side feeds from the line.
  I wrote the problem up at http://ccie-security.blogspot.com/
  But basically, it will be up for a some hours then down, 
 then I call them
 to
  test and it's good again.  Sometime it's good just by 
 unplug the cable and
  plug it back.  Like you, we changed everything and that 
 didn't help. 
  Finally, we talked to a knowledgeable Verizon tester and he 
 mentioned the
  rate on the line is ~17 which is 

Re: [c-nsp] PA-POS-1OC3 vs. PA-A3-OC3SMI

2008-09-18 Thread Paul G. Timmins
If you want to do 1:1 DS3, that'd work. If you want to rearrange
individual DS1s, you need a TransMux card 

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 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] PA-POS-1OC3 vs. PA-A3-OC3SMI
 
 A vendor suggested the following configuration:
 
 15454 Chassis and Fan
 Dual TCC+ cards
 Dual Cross Connect Cards
 1 DS3 card  (12 DS3s)
 1 DS3 backplane (24 DS3 Backplane)
 1 OC3 card  (4 port OC3)  1310 fiber only
 
 Seems like it is a big mux and I would still need to punch into a pa- 
 mc-t3 or some such in order manage things at the T1 level.
 
 David
 
 
 On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:06 PM, David Prall wrote:
 
  I'm pretty sure this is how it would be. You would need a frame- 
  relay switch
  in front of the POS interface, it isn't a CHOC interface. The ATM  
  would need
  an ATM switch in front of it to support ATM T1's. There is a PA- 
  MC-2T3+ that
  is channelized for the 7200. With this you could put a MUX 
 in front  
  of it.
 
  David
 
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  Subject: [c-nsp] PA-POS-1OC3 vs. PA-A3-OC3SMI
 
  We are looking for a fully channelized OC3 interface for a
  Cisco 7200
  VXR. Something that we can break individual T1's off of. In
  researching this there are two routes: PA-POS-1OC3 or PA-A3-OC3SMI.
  The first is SONET and the second is ATM.
 
  Other than price what is the difference? Which is needed?
 
  Thanks for any and all advice.
 
  David
 
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Re: [c-nsp] CBWFQ question

2008-07-29 Thread Paul G. Timmins
I just tried it on a 7206 VXR running 12.4 on an NPE-400, on a frame
relay t1 interface with a ping running, and there was no change in
packet loss or delay on addition or removal. I don't seem to ever have
had it cause any drops or resets on T1s or FastEthernet on the 7206 VXR
platform. YMMV.

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Subject: [c-nsp] CBWFQ question

Does removing or adding CBWFQ on an interface drop the link? Or does it
depend on traffic levels? Type of interface? I have had opinions both
ways.
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Re: [c-nsp] MacOS9, AS53xxx and L2TP

2008-06-26 Thread Paul G. Timmins
I'm having a similar issue where my portmasters authenticate the user,
hand the L2TP session to our 7206VXR, and then that falls apart and
states invalid username or password. Our VXR is at 12.4(16) 

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Subject: [c-nsp] MacOS9, AS53xxx and L2TP

Hi All,

We provide dialup services using Cisco AS5400 and AS5300 (in few
remote and low-use places). The ASes initiate L2TP tunnels to our
7301s, that in turn terminate the sessions.
Everything was fine until we upgraded the 7301 to a newer software
version (from 12.3.18 to 12.4.10). After that all MacOS9 users can't
get the PPP up any more if they happen to connect to a 5300.
Debugging is quite difficult due to volume of the calls that we handle
and the fact that local telco sends call down the E1s at random (i.e.
there is no guarantee, that second call made to the same number will
go down the same E1 and end up on the same NAS). It looks like the PPP
negotiation stops at certain stage and then times out. None of the
other types of customers/OSes seem to have that problem.

Has any of you encounter anything similar? I know that 5300 is not
supported any more, but due to dialup dying out it's difficult to
justify any spendings on the platform.

kind regards
Pshem
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