Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:24:00 +0300, Saku Ytti wrote 3. Topologies used c) anritsu --darkfibre-- ten7/1:7600:ten7/2 --darkfibre-- anritsu 4. Pure IP performance 4.1 no features configured, plain IP routing c) 64bytes does 87.5% of linerate, rate appraoches 100% as size grows, This is expected result - it's the 26 Mpps limit in Janus ASIC. but is both bps and pps bound, so no configuration of packet size and interval got 100%. That is strange. There is no bandwidth limitation between the ports and Janus, so it looks like something was broken in older IOS versions. M. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 10:58:56PM -0400, Lee wrote: On 3/31/09, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704 with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704 in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference. It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is those things have no buffers, buy a 6708. We had a TAC case for input queue drops on a 6704 port - they told us it's a hardware limitation. When traffic is switched between two ports leading to the same asic you're limited to about 8Gb per port. ??? This is definitely possible with 6704 and SXI: TenGigabitEthernet2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Last clearing of show interface counters 00:04:57 Input queue: 0/2000/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue: 0/40 (size/max) 30 second input rate 9900042000 bits/sec, 137227 packets/sec 30 second output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec TenGigabitEthernet2/2 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Last clearing of show interface counters 00:04:55 Input queue: 0/2000/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue: 0/40 (size/max) 30 second input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 30 second output rate 9900041000 bits/sec, 137226 packets/sec No single packet drop in 5 minutes, and the traffic is switched locally in the ASIC - not going out to fabric: #show fabric utilization slotchannel speedIngress % Egress % 2 020G00 2 120G00 This is on WS-SUP720-3B system with WS-X6704-10GE + WS-F6700-CFC. With kind regards, M. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On (2009-04-06 18:11 +0200), Marian Ďurkovič wrote: We had a TAC case for input queue drops on a 6704 port - they told us it's a hardware limitation. When traffic is switched between two ports leading to the same asic you're limited to about 8Gb per port. This is definitely possible with 6704 and SXI: TenGigabitEthernet2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) 30 second input rate 9900042000 bits/sec, 137227 packets/sec TenGigabitEthernet2/2 is up, line protocol is up (connected) 30 second output rate 9900041000 bits/sec, 137226 packets/sec When I tested it traffic inside single channel was worst alternative. 3. Topologies used I used four different topologies: a) anritsu --darkfibre-- ten7/1:7600:ten7/3 --darkfibre-- anritsu b) anritsu --darkfibre-- ten7/1:7600:ten4/1 --darkfibre-- anritsu c) anritsu --darkfibre-- ten7/1:7600:ten7/2 --darkfibre-- anritsu d) anr -dark- ten9/3:7600:ten9/2 -dwdm- ten4/1:7600:ten7/1 -dark- anr 4. Pure IP performance 4.1 no features configured, plain IP routing a) 67bytes and above is linerate in both directions b) 65bytes and above is linerate in both directions c) 64bytes does 87.5% of linerate, rate appraoches 100% as size grows, but is both bps and pps bound, so no configuration of packet size and interval got 100%. d) 67bytes and above is linerate in boh directions This was in mid 2006 with 6704 and CFC running SRA. ACL's and Policers didn't affect forwarding, uRPF did affect slightly. -- ++ytti ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On 3/31/09, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704 with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704 in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference. It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is those things have no buffers, buy a 6708. We had a TAC case for input queue drops on a 6704 port - they told us it's a hardware limitation. When traffic is switched between two ports leading to the same asic you're limited to about 8Gb per port. Regards, Lee ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Geoffrey Pendery schrieb: The stuff we've been reading (look at Supervisor Engines Supported on the data sheets for Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet Interface Modules, or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or X6708 10 Gig LAN cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES WAN type cards. I don't mean to kick off a big 6500 vs 7600 storm again, but does anyone know if this is incorrect? Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work? X6708-10G-3C works definitly. X6704 also. You have to check the release notes or software advisor for the suitable IOS. Jan -Geoff On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Jan Sandmaier Network Engineer 1und1 Internet AG Mail: jan.sandma...@1und1.de Brauerstrasse 48 Tel.: +49 721/91374-4213 D-76135 Karlsruhe Fax : +49 721/91374-212 http://www.1und1.de (AS8560) Handelsregister Amtsgericht Montabaur, HRB 6484 USt-IdNr. DE811247114 Vorstand: Henning Ahlert, Ralph Dommermuth, Matthias Ehrlich, Thomas Gottschlich, Matthias Greve, Robert Hoffmann, Markus Huhn, Oliver Mauss, Achim Weiss Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Michael Scheeren ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
RSP720 supervisor is supported from 12.2(33)SRB and supports X6704 from the beginning. X6708 is supported from 12.2(33)SRC for both SUP720 and RSP720 in the SR train. Regards, Gabor -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jan Sandmaier Sent: 2009. április 1. 8:45 To: Geoffrey Pendery Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 Geoffrey Pendery schrieb: The stuff we've been reading (look at Supervisor Engines Supported on the data sheets for Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet Interface Modules, or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or X6708 10 Gig LAN cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES WAN type cards. I don't mean to kick off a big 6500 vs 7600 storm again, but does anyone know if this is incorrect? Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work? X6708-10G-3C works definitly. X6704 also. You have to check the release notes or software advisor for the suitable IOS. Jan -Geoff On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Jan Sandmaier Network Engineer 1und1 Internet AG Mail: jan.sandma...@1und1.de Brauerstrasse 48 Tel.: +49 721/91374-4213 D-76135 Karlsruhe Fax : +49 721/91374-212 http://www.1und1.de (AS8560) Handelsregister Amtsgericht Montabaur, HRB 6484 USt-IdNr. DE811247114 Vorstand: Henning Ahlert, Ralph Dommermuth, Matthias Ehrlich, Thomas Gottschlich, Matthias Greve, Robert Hoffmann, Markus Huhn, Oliver Mauss, Achim Weiss Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Michael Scheeren ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
And also keep in mind that WS-X6708-10GE is a true line-rate card... Eric Gauthier wrote: Mark, I'm not sure if you have other 10g links, but keep in mind that Cisco has (at least) two 10g optics - Xenpak and X2 - that are not intercompatible. I believe that the 6704-10ge uses Xenpak and the 6708-10gE, which is the same card but with 8 ports, uses X2. If everything else you do is X2, it might make sense to jump up to the 8 port card to prevent yourself from having to buy/spare two types of optics. Eric :) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:41:12AM -0700, Mark Tech wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
I don't have the spec sheets handy but I do believe though that the 6708 is 1:2 oversubscribed though correct? The 6704 is 1:1 if that's important to the application Paul -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gergely Antal Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: Eric Gauthier Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 And also keep in mind that WS-X6708-10GE is a true line-rate card... Eric Gauthier wrote: Mark, I'm not sure if you have other 10g links, but keep in mind that Cisco has (at least) two 10g optics - Xenpak and X2 - that are not intercompatible. I believe that the 6704-10ge uses Xenpak and the 6708-10gE, which is the same card but with 8 ports, uses X2. If everything else you do is X2, it might make sense to jump up to the 8 port card to prevent yourself from having to buy/spare two types of optics. Eric :) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:41:12AM -0700, Mark Tech wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:54:47AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: And also keep in mind that WS-X6708-10GE is a true line-rate card... Hardly. gert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Why is that? Small (16MB) buffers? We are at about 32G without any problem until now. -- Tassos Gergely Antal wrote on 31/03/2009 11:01: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:54:47AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: And also keep in mind that WS-X6708-10GE is a true line-rate card... Hardly. gert ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
6704 is just said to be 1:1 with dfc. What we experienced, is that if you need the full 4G use the 6708, regardless if it's oversubscribed 2:1. Tamas On Mar 31, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: I don't have the spec sheets handy but I do believe though that the 6708 is 1:2 oversubscribed though correct? The 6704 is 1:1 if that's important to the application Paul -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gergely Antal Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: Eric Gauthier Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 And also keep in mind that WS-X6708-10GE is a true line-rate card... Eric Gauthier wrote: Mark, I'm not sure if you have other 10g links, but keep in mind that Cisco has (at least) two 10g optics - Xenpak and X2 - that are not intercompatible. I believe that the 6704-10ge uses Xenpak and the 6708-10gE, which is the same card but with 8 ports, uses X2. If everything else you do is X2, it might make sense to jump up to the 8 port card to prevent yourself from having to buy/spare two types of optics. Eric :) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:41:12AM -0700, Mark Tech wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Hi Mark, Mark Tech a écrit : Hi ... I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. We've re-used WS-X6704-10GE (from our 6500 without DFC3CXL daughter card) My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate 10G = yes IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future We're implementing all of these features without (as from now) any issue except VPLS which needs ES20/ES40 or ES(combo) We're also using IPv4 (sparse mode with anycast RP ) /IPv6 multicast with embedded RP, pseudowire, L3VPN with MPLS. As far as it goes 6VPE is also supported... (We also tested in lab, traffic-engineering with CRS1 in the tunnel path and it has worked at 10Gb rate) For whatever reason CISCO recommended a 4gb RAM RSP memory upgrade if the 7600 need but I'm not convinced about this recommendation. (Note that if you need to upgrade you need to purchase 2x4Gb in case of redundant RSP) With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Yes. WS-F6700-DFC3CXL becomes handy if you're planning to use netflow as the NDE(we extensively use it at full flow) is handle by the Forwarding card. (So the RSP7203CXL won't handle NDE burden) Again, more RAM would help to have more room for NETFLOW cache. But maybe this RAM is useful for another feature that I'm not awre of. Netflow is useful and the only way (we found) to monitor IPv6 traffic on this platform as IPv6 MIBs are not available on this architecture. Regards Mark Cheers/Fred ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On (2009-03-31 03:02 -0400), Paul Stewart wrote: I don't have the spec sheets handy but I do believe though that the 6708 is 1:2 oversubscribed though correct? The 6704 is 1:1 if that's important to the application 6704 is not exactly 1:1, while 6708 is exactly 1:2. So if you stick play-doh on 4 ports in 6708 you have wire-speed card (FSVO wire-speed, I really hate the term though, I mean wire-speed surely has to mean overspeed of maxports-1 * maxportspeed?) Also as an interesting curiosity LAN cards prior to 6708 are slow to detect linedown, so if you're venturing inside the subsecond convergency world, it is relevant. Paul -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gergely Antal Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: Eric Gauthier Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 And also keep in mind that WS-X6708-10GE is a true line-rate card... Eric Gauthier wrote: Mark, I'm not sure if you have other 10g links, but keep in mind that Cisco has (at least) two 10g optics - Xenpak and X2 - that are not intercompatible. I believe that the 6704-10ge uses Xenpak and the 6708-10gE, which is the same card but with 8 ports, uses X2. If everything else you do is X2, it might make sense to jump up to the 8 port card to prevent yourself from having to buy/spare two types of optics. Eric :) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:41:12AM -0700, Mark Tech wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- ++ytti ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
The stuff we've been reading (look at Supervisor Engines Supported on the data sheets for Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet Interface Modules, or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or X6708 10 Gig LAN cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES WAN type cards. I don't mean to kick off a big 6500 vs 7600 storm again, but does anyone know if this is incorrect? Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work? -Geoff On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-...@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704 with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704 in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference. It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is those things have no buffers, buy a 6708. The problem can usually be worked around by changing the way traffic is being mapped between the ports. For example, the one that seems to be the absolute worst case is in one port and out the other on the same fabric channel, i.e. in port 1 and out port 2 or the same thing on 3/4. -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Looks like the 6708 isn't as bad as we think. On 2009-03-31, at 4:12 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704 with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704 in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference. It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is those things have no buffers, buy a 6708. The problem can usually be worked around by changing the way traffic is being mapped between the ports. For example, the one that seems to be the absolute worst case is in one port and out the other on the same fabric channel, i.e. in port 1 and out port 2 or the same thing on 3/4. -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Keith Tokash has a pretty good writeup on the 6704 vs 6708 buffer issue: http://www.cciecandidate.com/?p=505 -Steve -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:38 PM To: Richard A Steenbergen Cc: Gert Doering; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 Looks like the 6708 isn't as bad as we think. On 2009-03-31, at 4:12 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704 with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704 in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference. It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is those things have no buffers, buy a 6708. The problem can usually be worked around by changing the way traffic is being mapped between the ports. For example, the one that seems to be the absolute worst case is in one port and out the other on the same fabric channel, i.e. in port 1 and out port 2 or the same thing on 3/4. -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
This got me curious, so I did a bit of digging. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/product_data_sheet09186a00801dce34.html WS-X6704-10GE - 16MB port buffers WS-X6708-10G-3CXL - 200 MB port buffers http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/data_sheet_c78-49152.html 7600-ES+4TG3CXL - 512MB port buffers On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote: Looks like the 6708 isn't as bad as we think. On 2009-03-31, at 4:12 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote: I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704 even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708 with 1:1 subscription. Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704 with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704 in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference. It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is those things have no buffers, buy a 6708. The problem can usually be worked around by changing the way traffic is being mapped between the ports. For example, the one that seems to be the absolute worst case is in one port and out the other on the same fabric channel, i.e. in port 1 and out port 2 or the same thing on 3/4. -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-...@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-...@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Yes you can use the WS-670x in the 7600 with an RSP, I have a couple of chassis with this at the moment, given they are the 6704(one with DFC) 10GE's but I can't see a 6708 not working either... 7600#sh mod Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. --- - -- -- --- 14 CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet WS-X6704-10GE SERIAL 24 CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet WS-X6704-10GE SERIAL 3 48 CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet WS-X6748-GE-TX SERIAL 52 Route Switch Processor 720 (Active)RSP720-3CXL-GE SERIAL On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net wrote: The stuff we've been reading (look at Supervisor Engines Supported on the data sheets for Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet Interface Modules, or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or X6708 10 Gig LAN cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES WAN type cards. I don't mean to kick off a big 6500 vs 7600 storm again, but does anyone know if this is incorrect? Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work? -Geoff On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
How much RAM do you have in your 6704? I have some too running in a RSP without issues and just got a new one. It refused to push the FIB to the DFC and blew up due to low memory. Our vendor only put a 256MB stick of RAM in this card when they usually have 1GB. Other than that, I haven't had any issues. Jon Wolberg Operations Manager PowerVPS / Defender Hosting Defender Technologies Group, LLC. - Original Message - From: Ben Steele illcrit...@gmail.com To: Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:53:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 Yes you can use the WS-670x in the 7600 with an RSP, I have a couple of chassis with this at the moment, given they are the 6704(one with DFC) 10GE's but I can't see a 6708 not working either... 7600#sh mod Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. --- - -- -- --- 14 CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet WS-X6704-10GE SERIAL 24 CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet WS-X6704-10GE SERIAL 3 48 CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet WS-X6748-GE-TX SERIAL 52 Route Switch Processor 720 (Active)RSP720-3CXL-GE SERIAL On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net wrote: The stuff we've been reading (look at Supervisor Engines Supported on the data sheets for Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet Interface Modules, or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or X6708 10 Gig LAN cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES WAN type cards. I don't mean to kick off a big 6500 vs 7600 storm again, but does anyone know if this is incorrect? Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work? -Geoff On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
1GB on the DFC, 256MB definitely wouldn't cut it for us. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jon Wolberg j...@defenderhosting.comwrote: How much RAM do you have in your 6704? I have some too running in a RSP without issues and just got a new one. It refused to push the FIB to the DFC and blew up due to low memory. Our vendor only put a 256MB stick of RAM in this card when they usually have 1GB. Other than that, I haven't had any issues. Jon Wolberg Operations Manager PowerVPS / Defender Hosting Defender Technologies Group, LLC. - Original Message - From: Ben Steele illcrit...@gmail.com To: Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:53:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 Yes you can use the WS-670x in the 7600 with an RSP, I have a couple of chassis with this at the moment, given they are the 6704(one with DFC) 10GE's but I can't see a 6708 not working either... 7600#sh mod Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. --- - -- -- --- 14 CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet WS-X6704-10GE SERIAL 24 CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet WS-X6704-10GE SERIAL 3 48 CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet WS-X6748-GE-TX SERIAL 52 Route Switch Processor 720 (Active)RSP720-3CXL-GE SERIAL On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net wrote: The stuff we've been reading (look at Supervisor Engines Supported on the data sheets for Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet Interface Modules, or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or X6708 10 Gig LAN cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES WAN type cards. I don't mean to kick off a big 6500 vs 7600 storm again, but does anyone know if this is incorrect? Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work? -Geoff On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Hi thanks fot that. I was looking at the ES card until the licence pricing was introduced. Then it suddenly went away very quicky!! Cheers Mark - Original Message From: Mark Tinka mti...@globaltransit.net To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Cc: Mark Tech techcon...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:13:51 AM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609 On Monday 30 March 2009 05:41:12 pm Mark Tech wrote: I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. We typically order our WS-X67xx-based 10Gbps line cards like so, for a complete set: * WS-X6704-10GE * WS-F6700-DFC3CXL * XENPAK-10GB-SR (depends on your distance needs) * MEM-XCEF720-1GB (part of this bundle) Since you're running a 7600, you may also consider an ES+20 or ES+40 line card, if the price is right, of course (watch out for that v6 license). Cheers, Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
On Monday 30 March 2009 05:41:12 pm Mark Tech wrote: I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. We typically order our WS-X67xx-based 10Gbps line cards like so, for a complete set: * WS-X6704-10GE * WS-F6700-DFC3CXL * XENPAK-10GB-SR (depends on your distance needs) * MEM-XCEF720-1GB (part of this bundle) Since you're running a 7600, you may also consider an ES+20 or ES+40 line card, if the price is right, of course (watch out for that v6 license). Cheers, Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
Mark, I'm not sure if you have other 10g links, but keep in mind that Cisco has (at least) two 10g optics - Xenpak and X2 - that are not intercompatible. I believe that the 6704-10ge uses Xenpak and the 6708-10gE, which is the same card but with 8 ports, uses X2. If everything else you do is X2, it might make sense to jump up to the 8 port card to prevent yourself from having to buy/spare two types of optics. Eric :) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:41:12AM -0700, Mark Tech wrote: Hi I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable. My technical requirements are: 10Gbps line rate IPv4 Able to handle full Internet routing table Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e. Memory Option: MEM-XCEF720-256M Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A) MEM-XCEF720-512M Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B) MEM-XCEF720-1GB Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL) Distributed Forwarding Card Option WS-F6700-CFC Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3B Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3A Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3BXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx WS-F6700-DFC3C Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules WS-F6700-DFC3CXL Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL? Regards Mark ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
