Re: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Tom, I use about 24” of extensions to reach the bottom of my bilge. I brace a couple thicknesses of 2x4 material between the extension and the side of the bilge, just below the head of the wrench. Without support, you may bend your extensions and not apply the proper torque. Having a second pair of hands to stabilize the wrench and extensions will definitely help. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of O'Keeffe Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:16 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts Torquing my boat's keel nuts, for the nuts down in the bilge sump of my 29-2 I am finding I will need to use a lot of extensions to raise the 42 long wrench high enough for swing room. The wrench handle needs to clear the top of the setee. With 350 ft lbs of torque and something like 40 in extensions, I am worried about side loading. It seems like a two-person job -- one to keep the head of the wrench lined up with the nut and another to swing the wrench. Before I try it, any suggestions on how not to do this? I spent much time researching the keel nut topic on this list and elsewhere before attacking the job. The knowledge shared by listers here is phenomenal. I never would have attempted this without that help. Thanks. Tom O'Keeffe Bridie Mae 29-2 Douglaston, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I have an older, three blade, CD feathering prop on my 29-2. The boat will motor at 6 to 6.5 knots at 2800 RPM under most conditions. I usually run at 2600 RPM with a boat speed of ~ 6 knots. Last summer when trying to re-enter Frenchmans Bay with a headwind of 25 to 35 knots and a moderate chop (offshore wind) the best that I could get was 3.5 to 4 knots. Fair Winds, Bob Hickson, P. Eng. Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club, C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours, 416-919-2297 bobhick...@rogers.com mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBA STO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting
Not off hand, but for what it is worth, I bought one a few years back from a guy in Turkey. I found a few dealers both in the UK and in the USA at the time, but the Turkish dealer was cheaper and there were no problems with shipping or quality. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBASTO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting
Give Sure Marine in Seattle (close to the Ballard Locks and Shilshole Bay) a call or contact through their web site. We used Sure Marine when installing Calypso's Webasto heating system back in 1999 and for parts and service since then. Great service and support for all things heating, cooking, and marine plumbing. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Pete Shelquist via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBASTO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting
Pete: My Wabasto exhausts thru the side just below the rail close to the transom. The pipe leading to it has a loop to prevent water from entering incase the rail should be submerged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portlandl, Or On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBASTO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting
Check out the picture at this link and consider going out the bottom not the transom. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yTDJjOGJKa2NncFk/edit?usp=docslist_api Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jan 4, 2015 1:20 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBASTO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting
Here's a video with a better shot of my discharge thru-hulls and transom. They all have internal high point loops and discharge above the normal water line. You can see the water line on the rudder and bottom paint. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ydVl2MnpxVXpHalk/edit?usp=docslist_api Josh On Jan 4, 2015 1:20 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBASTO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Jake,
Thanks, that should help keep it in line. I need the longer extensions because
the benches are too close to each other, i.e., I can't get even 1/6 of a turn
so there is not enough room to reposition the socket for the next sixth of a
turn. I need to get the wrench higher than the benches.
Tom O'Keeffe Bridie Mae29-2Douglaston, NY
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bilge. I brace a couple thicknesses of 2x4 material between the extension and
the side of the bilge, just below the head of the wrench. Without support,
you may bend your extensions and not apply the proper torque. Having a second
pair of hands to stabilize the wrench and extensions will definitely help.
Jake Jake Brodersen“Midnight Mistress”CC 35 Mk-IIIHampton VA From:
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of O'Keeffe Thomas
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:16 PM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts Torquing my boat's keel nuts, for the
nuts down in the bilge sump of my 29-2 I am finding I will need to use a lot of
extensions to raise the 42 long wrench high enough for swing room. The wrench
handle needs to clear the top of the setee. With 350 ft lbs of torque and
something like 40 in extensions, I am worried about side loading. It seems
like a two-person job -- one to keep the head of the wrench lined up with the
nut and another to swing the wrench. Before I try it, any suggestions on how
not to do this? I spent much time researching the keel nut topic on this list
and elsewhere before attacking the job. The knowledge shared by listers here
is phenomenal. I never would have attempted this without that help.
Thanks. Tom O'Keeffe Bridie Mae29-2Douglaston, NY
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Re: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Consider using a torque multiplier. A normal amount of torque can be used without bending or over torquing extensions. It will also allow using a smaller, shorter torque wrench which give a better swing radius. Using the one in the link below, I would place it in the bildge and frame it in place with wood. They are usually 5:1 so pulling 70ft/lbs should be a drastic improvement over pulling 350ft/lbs. http://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200623947_200623947 Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk On Jan 4, 2015 6:45 PM, O'Keeffe Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jake, Thanks, that should help keep it in line. I need the longer extensions because the benches are too close to each other, i.e., I can't get even 1/6 of a turn so there is not enough room to reposition the socket for the next sixth of a turn. I need to get the wrench higher than the benches. Tom O'Keeffe Bridie Mae 29-2 Douglaston, NY On Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:54 AM, Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net wrote: Tom, I use about 24 of extensions to reach the bottom of my bilge. I brace a couple thicknesses of 2x4 material between the extension and the side of the bilge, just below the head of the wrench. Without support, you may bend your extensions and not apply the proper torque. Having a second pair of hands to stabilize the wrench and extensions will definitely help. Jake *Jake Brodersen* *Midnight Mistress* *CC 35 Mk-III* *Hampton VA* *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *O'Keeffe Thomas via CnC-List *Sent:* Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:16 PM *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Torquing keel nuts Torquing my boat's keel nuts, for the nuts down in the bilge sump of my 29-2 I am finding I will need to use a lot of extensions to raise the 42 long wrench high enough for swing room. The wrench handle needs to clear the top of the setee. With 350 ft lbs of torque and something like 40 in extensions, I am worried about side loading. It seems like a two-person job -- one to keep the head of the wrench lined up with the nut and another to swing the wrench. Before I try it, any suggestions on how not to do this? I spent much time researching the keel nut topic on this list and elsewhere before attacking the job. The knowledge shared by listers here is phenomenal. I never would have attempted this without that help. Thanks. Tom O'Keeffe Bridie Mae 29-2 Douglaston, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Torquing the keel nuts on a CC 29-2 is a one person job if you use a shorter extension than the one you describe. I assume you have the standard 5'-3 draft model which has a larger and deeper bilge than the 4'-0 shoal draft version. The extension doesn't have to be so long as to raise the torque wrench above the settee. Just get a long enough extension so that the wrench clears the top of the cabin sole. Sit on the sole with the end of wrench handle facing aft. Brace your legs against the vertical face of the settee and your back against the settee on the opposite side. This will give you enough leverage to reach the 350 ft. lb. torque on the largest bolts. You'll need a 12 long extension for those nuts. Don't forget the nut hidden under the mast. That's the one that makes the smile if you neglect to torque it on a regular basis. Ted Drossos CC 29-2 H2OT Bay Shore, Long Island, NY Sent from AOL Mobile Mail___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
