Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone
You are correct - it is Globalstar and they did have problems with the first generation satellites. This phone works with the second generation satellites that were launched about two years ago. I have one and it's excellent. It starts up and locks on satellites faster than I can start my cell phone and the voice quality is excellent. The data is slow, but that's true for any of the systems. Joel - if you want to try it, I'd be happy to let you. I have a lot of minutes left from last year that will expire, so great if we use some. Steve CC 37 Impromptu Steve Sharkey On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My understanding is that Spot Sat phone is based on Globalstar network and as I recall they had some issues with their first generation satellites. I haven't checked to see if they have fully deployed the gen2 sats... I really like my Iridium 9505 brick phone. Very simple and reliable. I've made calls from inside the cabin in heavy seas without an issue. You can pick one up on eBay for around $350. Cheers, Aaron R. Admiral Maggie, 1979 CC 30 MK1 #540 Annapolis, MD Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:09:47 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Spot sat phone From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Does anyone have experience with the Spot sat phone? Its almost affordable at $500. Joel 35/3 Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
Hey Rich Could you elaborate on your thoughts re combiners / charge relays vs. echo-chargers? I’m looking at options right now myself. For Edd, is there any benefit to having a solar controller that is dual-bank? I’m not sure which one you are proposing (have?) but I’m wondering if the ‘programming’ of the distribution of charge to each bank will conflict with the voltage sensing and resulting operation of the ACR (or perhaps think of it the other way round). For me I’m puzzling over a similar situation. My setup is proposed to be a house bank of 2 x Group 27 flooded in parallel with a small (U1?) AGM ‘start’ (I’m only starting an Atomic Four) ... but set it up so that the ‘start’ is actually a ‘reserve’ battery ... I’ll use the house bank for starting and house duties and connect my alternator to the house bank. So my 1-2-Both switch becomes a battery ‘use’ switch ... normally just used between Off and 1. But my battery charger is a ProMariner ProSport 20amp 3-bank charger, that distributes charge to each bank depending on SOC (so for example, connected to 3 batteries it could provide 2amps, 2amps and 16amps) and also has multi-charging stages. It also wants to have one set of leads connected to at most one battery ... even if they are in a bank. So in my setup, 2 sets of leads to the house, one to each battery, and one set to the reserve. ProMariner tech support says that a combiner or ACR will not cause any issues but I’m not so sure this would be the case. Blue Sea recommends setting up to turn off the ACR when multiple bank chargers / multi-stage chargers are used. So I probably will install a switch on the ground, like Edd plans, and/or a relay to trigger on energizing the AC circuit to the battery charger and break the ground to turn off the Blue Sea ACR. I’ve also been looking at a Yandina Combiner 100 ... it has similar capability to be turned off (although with it, it has a ground connection but a separate ‘remote’ connection that is used to trigger the combiner off by closing to ground). Now I may in the future put in a solar panel. I actually have a good controller with single bank connection ... would certainly work through the combiner or ACR but probably wouldn’t be used at the same time as the charger (solar alongside / underway during summer months and charger only during the winter when I’m running cabin heater / dehumidifier anyway). I don’ think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned ‘off’? Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:19 PM To: Edd Schillay ; cnc-list Cnc-List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft No major problems that I can see. I’m not a big fan of battery combiners for charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in its place. Check out http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx Rich Knowles Nanaimo BC. INDIGO LF38 For sale and buried in snow in Halifax, NS. On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say “Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack.” Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log PastedGraphic-1.tiff ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
The echo-charger is great for mixed chemistry battery setups such as your planning. AGM for start and Flooded for house. Each type of battery requires different charge profiles. With the same chemisty the ACR allows for a higher current charge to switched bank. The echos are limited to 20Amps...IIRC. I too am eager to hear why Rich is partial to the echo. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 27, 2015 2:39 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hey Rich Could you elaborate on your thoughts re combiners / charge relays vs. echo-chargers? I'm looking at options right now myself. For Edd, is there any benefit to having a solar controller that is dual-bank? I'm not sure which one you are proposing (have?) but I'm wondering if the 'programming' of the distribution of charge to each bank will conflict with the voltage sensing and resulting operation of the ACR (or perhaps think of it the other way round). For me I'm puzzling over a similar situation. My setup is proposed to be a house bank of 2 x Group 27 flooded in parallel with a small (U1?) AGM 'start' (I'm only starting an Atomic Four) ... but set it up so that the 'start' is actually a 'reserve' battery ... I'll use the house bank for starting and house duties and connect my alternator to the house bank. So my 1-2-Both switch becomes a battery 'use' switch ... normally just used between Off and 1. But my battery charger is a ProMariner ProSport 20amp 3-bank charger, that distributes charge to each bank depending on SOC (so for example, connected to 3 batteries it could provide 2amps, 2amps and 16amps) and also has multi-charging stages. It also wants to have one set of leads connected to at most one battery ... even if they are in a bank. So in my setup, 2 sets of leads to the house, one to each battery, and one set to the reserve. ProMariner tech support says that a combiner or ACR will not cause any issues but I'm not so sure this would be the case. Blue Sea recommends setting up to turn off the ACR when multiple bank chargers / multi-stage chargers are used. So I probably will install a switch on the ground, like Edd plans, and/or a relay to trigger on energizing the AC circuit to the battery charger and break the ground to turn off the Blue Sea ACR. I've also been looking at a Yandina Combiner 100 ... it has similar capability to be turned off (although with it, it has a ground connection but a separate 'remote' connection that is used to trigger the combiner off by closing to ground). Now I may in the future put in a solar panel. I actually have a good controller with single bank connection ... would certainly work through the combiner or ACR but probably wouldn't be used at the same time as the charger (solar alongside / underway during summer months and charger only during the winter when I'm running cabin heater / dehumidifier anyway). I don' think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned 'off'? Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII *From:* Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:19 PM *To:* Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com ; cnc-list Cnc-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft No major problems that I can see. I'm not a big fan of battery combiners for charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in its place. Check out http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx Rich Knowles Nanaimo BC. INDIGO LF38 For sale and buried in snow in Halifax, NS. On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack. Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ PastedGraphic-1.tiff ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stern tube
1 3/4 From: Robert Gallagher via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: Stus-List Stern tube hi - quick question, my boat is a bit of a drive and I'm on my way to the Defender sale. I need a pss dripless shaft seal rebuild kit. Boat is an 88 30 MKII with a 1 inch shaft. Anyone know off hand what the stern tube diameter size is? Rob ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List New foredeck hatch
The hatch repair shop (Hatchmasters) suggested that in my case I might be better of replacing my Bomar foredeck hatch instead of sending to him to rebuild. It was a good conversation and I appreciated his product knowledge shared honestly. So I purchased the closest Bomar model from the 1039 series. My issue is the old hatch sits on top of the deck, but the new one has a flange. To fit the flange plus Bomar's trim ring I need to enlarge the hole by 3/4 inch (3/8 each side). I decided to use a router and made a template. Tried that yesterday and found the deck is tough, with solid epoxy between the skins. The router basically bounced off. I did it from underneath because the hatch sits in a recess topside. I probably won't try that again as I couldn't the router. Before I hack up my deck and any body parts, checking with this group for comments or ideas? Thanks. Tom O'KeeffeBridie Mae 1984 CC 29-2Douglaston, NY ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Was able to complete the job yesterday as suggested a few months ago. Thanks. Tom O'KeeffeBridie Mae1984 CC 29-2Douglaston, NY On Monday, January 5, 2015 12:35 AM, Ted Drossos via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Torquing the keel nuts on a CC 29-2 is a one person job if you use a shorter extension than the one you describe. I assume you have the standard 5'-3 draft model which has a larger and deeper bilge than the 4'-0 shoal draft version. The extension doesn't have to be so long as to raise the torque wrench above the settee. Just get a long enough extension so that the wrench clears the top of the cabin sole. Sit on the sole with the end of wrench handle facing aft. Brace your legs against the vertical face of the settee and your back against the settee on the opposite side. This will give you enough leverage to reach the 350 ft. lb. torque on the largest bolts. You'll need a 12 long extension for those nuts. Don't forget the nut hidden under the mast. That's the one that makes the smile if you neglect to torque it on a regular basis. Ted DrossosCC 29-2H2OTBay Shore, Long Island, NY Sent from AOL Mobile Mail ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List First aid kit
Looks like the Adventure kit 1000 from Defender is my best option, and it's on sale. The larger kit has stuff even the Admiral would not use. Thanks all! On Thursday, March 26, 2015, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote: I suppose, Joel, it depends on what you mean by “offshore”. If offshore means the South Pacific, and when in New Guinea you might run into (inset whatever nasty bug or predator trips your trigger here) a $450 kit might be a bargain. Even a necessitiy. For me, offshore means the islands in the Bahamas, or maybe some place in the Caribbean. My kit is pretty big. I can splint, suture, heat, cool, rehydrate, relieve pain, treat burns. Heck, the kit even has a scalpel and tubing, but if you need a tracheotomy you are probably SOL, buddy. The kit takes up 3 waterproof boxes – four if you count the one marked “analgesics” that has the scopolamine, Dramamine, aspirin, Tylenol, sunburn cream, etc. in it – and it cost somewhere around $200 to put together. Look on a couple of cruiser sites and you should be able to come up with a list of contents appropriate for the area where you will be going. Or ask the wife. Then buy what you need. Rick Brass *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com');] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:50 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *Subject:* Stus-List First aid kit I'd like to buy an offshore first aid kit. The large ones, even on sale at Defender, are $450. There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops. Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical training beyond basic first aid. (She's a nurse.) Any recommendations other than ask her? -- Joel 301 541 8551 -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone
Steve, thanks for the offer. You'll need the time for Newport. Looking at Ebay and Craigslist too. Joel On Friday, March 27, 2015, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You are correct - it is Globalstar and they did have problems with the first generation satellites. This phone works with the second generation satellites that were launched about two years ago. I have one and it's excellent. It starts up and locks on satellites faster than I can start my cell phone and the voice quality is excellent. The data is slow, but that's true for any of the systems. Joel - if you want to try it, I'd be happy to let you. I have a lot of minutes left from last year that will expire, so great if we use some. Steve CC 37 Impromptu Steve Sharkey On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: My understanding is that Spot Sat phone is based on Globalstar network and as I recall they had some issues with their first generation satellites. I haven't checked to see if they have fully deployed the gen2 sats... I really like my Iridium 9505 brick phone. Very simple and reliable. I've made calls from inside the cabin in heavy seas without an issue. You can pick one up on eBay for around $350. Cheers, Aaron R. Admiral Maggie, 1979 CC 30 MK1 #540 Annapolis, MD -- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:09:47 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); Subject: Stus-List Spot sat phone From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); Does anyone have experience with the Spot sat phone? Its almost affordable at $500. Joel 35/3 Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Reply to David Kelly re instruments
I would definitely appreciate it if you could look for your NX1 wind unit. And pay I replied this way because your domain rejected me oops. Gary___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up
YouTube. Search CC 35 rigging. On Friday, March 27, 2015, Ron Casciato via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I should know this stuffthe videos are where? Ron C. -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com');] *On Behalf Of *Chuck S via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:49 PM *To:* Aronson, Joel; CNC boat owners, cnc-list *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up Like your videos. Always meant to do that for my boat and crew. Chuck *Resolute* 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:02:54 PM *Subject: *Stus-List Rigging set-up All, In order to help my race crew adjust to my boat, I made 2 short videos showing the running rigging and electronics that are on YouTube under CC 35 Rigging. If you are bored, take a look. What I've done may not be right for anyone else, but it might give you ideas of what to do or not do, and if you have a 35/3, you can see how different our boats are. I know some have a different mast, some have hydraulic vangs, some lack a second jib track and reaching strut, etc. Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
The ProSport doesn’t have the capability of running multiple charging profiles for different banks. But I think the basic difference here is what type of AGM battery you are using. The charger has a Flooded / AGM setting, using the same profile / rates for both and then a “HP AGM” setting, which one would use on batteries such as Optima Sprial Wound, Odyssey, etc. It also has a Gel setting. I think it’s pretty easy to identify the difference in batteries when shopping. Example of a Group 24 AGM ... the standard marine “dual purpose” AGM might run $200. A HP or a “thin plate pure lead” AGM would typically run over $300. But yes, I do have the capability of running the charger (and all other charging sources) only to the house bank and then using an echo-charger or other device. The echo charger will follow the charging profile of the charger that is connected but will limit the amperage passed to the 2nd bank depending on the voltage difference sensed between the two banks ... which isn’t a huge feature as I understand a battery will consume only the amps it needs. It’s 15 amp maximum for the echo-charger. Also voltage passed is limited to 14.4. I don’t know if there is any benefit or not to using the “reserve” as a conventional “start” but I’d have to remember to switch banks after running the engine. From: Josh Muckley Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 3:35 AM To: Peter Fell ; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft The echo-charger is great for mixed chemistry battery setups such as your planning. AGM for start and Flooded for house. Each type of battery requires different charge profiles. With the same chemisty the ACR allows for a higher current charge to switched bank. The echos are limited to 20Amps...IIRC. I too am eager to hear why Rich is partial to the echo. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
Uh oh — no word from Fred Street. He may be too polite to say the “amateur hack” stuff . . . . All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say “Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack.” Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ PastedGraphic-1.tiff ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up
CC 35 rigging: http://youtu.be/EC5ONyLGxvU Cc 35 rigging pt 2: http://youtu.be/IgAGb6pGmAM On Mar 27, 2015 11:18 AM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I should know this stuffthe videos are where? Ron C. -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck S via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:49 PM *To:* Aronson, Joel; CNC boat owners, cnc-list *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up Like your videos. Always meant to do that for my boat and crew. Chuck *Resolute* 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:02:54 PM *Subject: *Stus-List Rigging set-up All, In order to help my race crew adjust to my boat, I made 2 short videos showing the running rigging and electronics that are on YouTube under CC 35 Rigging. If you are bored, take a look. What I've done may not be right for anyone else, but it might give you ideas of what to do or not do, and if you have a 35/3, you can see how different our boats are. I know some have a different mast, some have hydraulic vangs, some lack a second jib track and reaching strut, etc. Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Another hatch question - Soft close?
The catch riveted to the frame of the forward hatch on my 30-2 came loose at the end of last year, I think from being slammed shut with the handle in the closed position. I pop riveted it back on and it is tight for the time being, but I am concerned that it won’t hold if the handle gets slammed down on it again. Has anyone mounted a gas shock or other soft close mechanism on theirs? I see that Lewmar sells an add-on accessory to lock the hatch open, but I don’t think it soft closes. It also becomes a safety issue with my 9 year old and her friends, as the hinges don’t hold very well anymore, in addition to my fears about a major rebuild if this continues. Thanks for any advice! Jim Reinardy 1988 CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone
FYI, I buy my minutes from this company in Manassas, VA. They are very accommodating and close enough where you can drive up and get a SIM card if need be... http://www.cytechcommunications.com/ Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:59:10 -0400 To: stevebshar...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Steve, thanks for the offer. You'll need the time for Newport.Looking at Ebay and Craigslist too. Joel On Friday, March 27, 2015, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You are correct - it is Globalstar and they did have problems with the first generation satellites. This phone works with the second generation satellites that were launched about two years ago. I have one and it's excellent. It starts up and locks on satellites faster than I can start my cell phone and the voice quality is excellent. The data is slow, but that's true for any of the systems. Joel - if you want to try it, I'd be happy to let you. I have a lot of minutes left from last year that will expire, so great if we use some. SteveCC 37Impromptu Steve Sharkey On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My understanding is that Spot Sat phone is based on Globalstar network and as I recall they had some issues with their first generation satellites. I haven't checked to see if they have fully deployed the gen2 sats... I really like my Iridium 9505 brick phone. Very simple and reliable. I've made calls from inside the cabin in heavy seas without an issue. You can pick one up on eBay for around $350. Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:09:47 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Spot sat phone From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Does anyone have experience with the Spot sat phone? Its almost affordable at $500. Joel35/3Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up
I should know this stuffthe videos are where? Ron C. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:49 PM To: Aronson, Joel; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up Like your videos. Always meant to do that for my boat and crew. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:02:54 PM Subject: Stus-List Rigging set-up All, In order to help my race crew adjust to my boat, I made 2 short videos showing the running rigging and electronics that are on YouTube under CC 35 Rigging. If you are bored, take a look. What I've done may not be right for anyone else, but it might give you ideas of what to do or not do, and if you have a 35/3, you can see how different our boats are. I know some have a different mast, some have hydraulic vangs, some lack a second jib track and reaching strut, etc. Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List - Was New Wiring Diagram Draft - Now Battery Combiners
Thanks Josh This is getting long-winded and delving more into my specific situation, so I’m renaming it. Running directly from battery to starter wouldn’t allow for discrete selection of the house bank to allow for starting, should for some reason the start battery be dead ... but I suppose another switch could be used to direct starter to the start or the house bank but then again the 1-ALL-2 switch does that anyway. But that does bring up a point regarding the Echo-charger vs the Blue Sea ACR, vs the Yandina Combiner 100 (the 2 latter being the one’s I’ve been looking at). The Echo-charger does not, AFAIK, allow you to combine banks to start. Neither does the Blue Sea. You can set-up to force the Yandina to combine. Now of course if the start battery is severely discharged (or perhaps even failed completely) then you don’t want to combine ... but you do want to be able to select the house bank discretely for feed to the starter. With the alternator connected directly to the house bank, other than perhaps some power ‘blips’ occurring when switching from 2 to 1 (and the ‘make before break’ is supposed to handle that) there is no issue with turning the 1-ALL-2 to OFF with the engine running. Alternator will always see a load from the house bank (other than there should be an ON-OFF switch in the alternator feed to the house, for when performing maintenance on the engine and I might add if the starter is directly connected to the start battery there should be an ON-OFF for it as well). Here’s another interesting point. Blue Sea ACR and Yandina are ignition protected. The Echo-charger is not. They also recommend placing the Echo-charger a maximum of 2-feet to the house bank and 2-feet to the start bank, although you can apparently extend them. This limits where one can place the device ... especially in a gas-powered boat like mine with minimal space to fit batteries. Also between the Yandina and the Blue Sea I understand that the Blue Sea is recommended to be directly connected to the +ve battery terminals. The Yandina I am told is perfectly happy “jumpered” between the 1 and 2 of the 1-ALL-2 switch (it also comes with 2-foot cables that can be lengthened ... but not shortened). In my ‘small boat’ application, the plan is to shoe-horn the house bank under the aft dinette seat and the ‘start’ aft of the main bulkhead in the port cockpit locker, I can keep the 1-ALL-2 switch on the bulkhead and also use the bulkhead space for the combiner, battery charger, alternator disconnect and galvanic isolator. All are ignition protected. And the AGM battery is not supposed to vent. The house bank of course I do have to vent. For the rest of the electrical installation I’m working on placing it on the port side above the dinette. That gets all the AC and DC panels and other associated electrical components off of the bulkhead and away from the fuel tank, fuel lines and carb (and for that matter the sink!) There is access from the dinette seat up to this area and can run battery cables from the cockpit locker to the seat area between the cabinet face and the icebox on the port side (probably put in a piece of conduit to keep them dry). Also if I keep the windlass power directly connected to the house bank, it will shorten up those cables. The downside of the house placement is longer battery cables / alternator feed ... and I may have to extend the battery charger cables. I’ll enclose the space on the port side adjacent to the engine where the batteries used to be to reclaim it for storage (tools? spares?). I also am going to eliminate the alternator feed back to the engine panel ... and take the ammeter out. I have a tach to install in its place.I haven’t decided on an exact model yet, but a battery monitor is on the wish list. I also have a Blue Sea weatherproof fuse/switch panel to go into the cockpit where I’ll relocate the nav light, autopilot and chartplotter switches. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII From: Josh Muckley Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:19 AM To: Peter Fell ; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft Peter I take back everything I stated about the echo-charge. For some reason I was under the impression that it was the equivalent of a DC-DC charger and could be programmed/selected for different battery chemistries. After re-reading the owners manual I can not understand any advantage/difference compared to an ACR and am even more eager for Rich to tell us why he so strongly prefers the echo. As for using the reserve as a start, the idea would be to run new cables from the reserve battery to the starter. The 1-ALL-2 switch would always stay on 1. The auxiliary loads would come off the house battery (#1) and the alternator would only be connected to the house battery. The echo-charge/ACR provides charge current to the starting battery when the house bank is full...ish ( ~12.7v). When you go
Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone
Unless they changed it, the way that Globalstar packages them the minutes are only good for one year, so I need to buy more for Newport and the current ones dissappear. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, thanks for the offer. You'll need the time for Newport. Looking at Ebay and Craigslist too. Joel On Friday, March 27, 2015, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You are correct - it is Globalstar and they did have problems with the first generation satellites. This phone works with the second generation satellites that were launched about two years ago. I have one and it's excellent. It starts up and locks on satellites faster than I can start my cell phone and the voice quality is excellent. The data is slow, but that's true for any of the systems. Joel - if you want to try it, I'd be happy to let you. I have a lot of minutes left from last year that will expire, so great if we use some. Steve CC 37 Impromptu Steve Sharkey On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My understanding is that Spot Sat phone is based on Globalstar network and as I recall they had some issues with their first generation satellites. I haven't checked to see if they have fully deployed the gen2 sats... I really like my Iridium 9505 brick phone. Very simple and reliable. I've made calls from inside the cabin in heavy seas without an issue. You can pick one up on eBay for around $350. Cheers, Aaron R. Admiral Maggie, 1979 CC 30 MK1 #540 Annapolis, MD -- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:09:47 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Spot sat phone From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Does anyone have experience with the Spot sat phone? Its almost affordable at $500. Joel 35/3 Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
Peter I take back everything I stated about the echo-charge. For some reason I was under the impression that it was the equivalent of a DC-DC charger and could be programmed/selected for different battery chemistries. After re-reading the owners manual I can not understand any advantage/difference compared to an ACR and am even more eager for Rich to tell us why he so strongly prefers the echo. As for using the reserve as a start, the idea would be to run new cables from the reserve battery to the starter. The 1-ALL-2 switch would always stay on 1. The auxiliary loads would come off the house battery (#1) and the alternator would only be connected to the house battery. The echo-charge/ACR provides charge current to the starting battery when the house bank is full...ish ( ~12.7v). When you go to start, the starting battery is the only one providing power since the echo-charge opened the connection when the charger/alternator was disconnected/shutdown. Remember this is all so that you don't ever have to switch the 1-ALL-2 switch. Even more so that there isn't any temptation to do it while the engine is running. Josh On Mar 27, 2015 1:38 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The ProSport doesn't have the capability of running multiple charging profiles for different banks. But I think the basic difference here is what type of AGM battery you are using. The charger has a Flooded / AGM setting, using the same profile / rates for both and then a HP AGM setting, which one would use on batteries such as Optima Sprial Wound, Odyssey, etc. It also has a Gel setting. I think it's pretty easy to identify the difference in batteries when shopping. Example of a Group 24 AGM ... the standard marine dual purpose AGM might run $200. A HP or a thin plate pure lead AGM would typically run over $300. But yes, I do have the capability of running the charger (and all other charging sources) only to the house bank and then using an echo-charger or other device. The echo charger will follow the charging profile of the charger that is connected but will limit the amperage passed to the 2nd bank depending on the voltage difference sensed between the two banks ... which isn't a huge feature as I understand a battery will consume only the amps it needs. It's 15 amp maximum for the echo-charger. Also voltage passed is limited to 14.4. I don't know if there is any benefit or not to using the reserve as a conventional start but I'd have to remember to switch banks after running the engine. *From:* Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 3:35 AM *To:* Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com ; CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft The echo-charger is great for mixed chemistry battery setups such as your planning. AGM for start and Flooded for house. Each type of battery requires different charge profiles. With the same chemisty the ACR allows for a higher current charge to switched bank. The echos are limited to 20Amps...IIRC. I too am eager to hear why Rich is partial to the echo. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)
Tom, Depending on the height, I’m pretty sure I can get 4 Trojan T-105s and one Trojan Group 24 under the starboard settee. I’ve had three very large 12Vs in there before, an I think there’s enough space. 4 t-105s in a 12V configuration (6v at 225aH each) should give me 12v at 450aH. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Edd What 6v batteries are you planning on using, with will be the total AH, and where will you house them. I'll be damned if I can find enough space to add two more batteries on Alera, Enterprise's sistership. thx Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com http://www.sv-alera.com/t 08:15 AM 3/27/2015, you wrote: On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say ?Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack.? Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)
Tom, I have 6 agm's on their side under the floor boards of my 44. It might work for your 40. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland Or On Mar 27, 2015 10:18 AM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Edd What 6v batteries are you planning on using, with will be the total AH, and where will you house them. I'll be damned if I can find enough space to add two more batteries on Alera, Enterprise's sistership. thx Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com t 08:15 AM 3/27/2015, you wrote: On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say ?Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack.? Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Rebuilt Atomic 4 $2500
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Stus-List New Instruments
When I bought Pegathy, I got a Garmin 421s chartplotter. It was small enough to be unobtrusive and had as many (maybe more) pixels than the larger screens. It will display any combination of up to 4 (I think) instruments on the NMEA 2000 bus on a ribbon on the chart screen. The next year, I bought a gmi10 package with a masthead anemometer, temperature and pressure sensor and a depth and water temp sensor. The gmi 10 will display up to 4 instruments at once in user defined formats with user defined alarm limits for each. It also allows you to create a bunch of custom combinations which can be stored and accessed with the push of a button, or maybe a few pushes if you define a bunch of screens. There are other good features as well. Replaced four instrument heads with one. Works for me, except that I had to cover the holes. It's backed up by the chart plotter, so I'm more comfortable with having a single head. Just bought a Lowrance NMEA 2000 VHF/AIS receiver which is supposed to communicate with the chartplotter. Haven't tried it yet. Still waiting for warm enough weather to pain the bottom. Dan SheerPegathy LF 38Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)
Tom, Do you have height in your battery compartment?I do and installed 2 400 amp sweeper batterys. Same or smaller, footprint, inexpensive and robust. David F. Risch. 1981 40 Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device. div Original message /divdivFrom: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:03/27/2015 2:39 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Tom Buscaglia t...@sv-alera.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) /divdiv /div Tom, I have 6 agm's on their side under the floor boards of my 44. It might work for your 40. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland Or On Mar 27, 2015 10:18 AM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Edd What 6v batteries are you planning on using, with will be the total AH, and where will you house them. I'll be damned if I can find enough space to add two more batteries on Alera, Enterprise's sistership. thx Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com t 08:15 AM 3/27/2015, you wrote: On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the Enterprise. Here is link to my draft setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to say ?Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our CC List, you amateur hack.? Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my CC. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
