Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
CNG is safer than propane but burns cooler From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; rickbr...@earthlink.net; detroit...@aol.com Cc: Patrick Davin Subject: Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC Looks like a good deal. Especially if that new engine install was well done. CNG stove is a downside vs LPG in my opinion. Not sure where they store their CNG - the box that normally holds LPG tanks under the helm seat is missing. Listing says it's a 1981 but specs tab says 1979. Sometimes brokers just mess up, but would be good to confirm which is which. No windlass (unless they omitted it from specs) with a big anchor will make for a good biceps workout. Nice Manson though. Running rigging needs replacement probably, at least the genoa sheets. Boom vang is an upgrade, that's nice. Teak toerails need reconditioning. What is that in front of the stove? A 4' tall refrigerator? Gack. I would definitely check it out! With close attention to how the engine repowering was done. -Patrick CC LF 38 Seattle, WA On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.netmailto:rickbr...@earthlink.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: James Schwartz detroit...@aol.commailto:detroit...@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:25:52 -0400 Subject: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC A friend of mine is pretty impressed with a 1981 LF38 for sale at Ashley Yachts in Charleston, SC and is close to making an offer on her. Jim is interested in a strong and comfortable boat for retirement cruising on the ICW starting this coming winter. He has sailed several times on my 38 mk2 and appreciates the build quality and performance, and the amenities in a LF38 are attractive to his Admiral. He has already seen the boat, and has asked me to go back with him to take a closer look at the mechanical systems before finalizing an offer. The name of the boat is “True Love”. The listing on Yacht World is: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/CC-Landfall-2842472/Mt-Pleasant/SC/United-States#.VX9bgMtRH3g Does anyone know anything about this boat or its history. I’m a bit curious about the new rudder. I also note that the tankage listed is different from the original spec sheet on an LF38. Do any of the LF owners on here see anything in the photographs on Yacht World that require further investigation, or anything that strikes you as especially desirable? Finally, if this gets to the offer stage, Jim will need to have the boat surveyed. Does anyone have a recommendation for a surveyor in the Charleston area, especially one with CC experience? A surveyor named David Hill was recommended to my friend; does anyone have experience with him or knowledge of his past performance? Thanks for the help and advice. Rick Brass Imzadi CC 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore CC 25 mk1 Washington, NC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking
I have an 88 30MKII Long story short... I survey two 30MKII during my trek to find my boat. The first had a very stiff steering issue, the brokers yard fixed it before I had it surveyed. The would not tell me what was wrong or what they did to fix it. In the end, the boat surveyed poorly and the owner would not negotiate. The second boat had the same issue, but the price was right and the boat surveyed well. I purchased the boat and addressed the stiff steering issue myself. AFTER disassembling most of the steering and pedestal bits and lubricating the heck out of the lower bearing all to no avail... I removed the through bolts that hold the collar on emergency steering thingamabob. This got me to the white plasiticish bearing doohicky. I slid the bearing off, sanded it with fine emery cloth, gave it a bath in lots of white synthetic grease safe for plastic bits and put it all back together. Three seasons later both the steering and myself are still smooth as silk. Rob 88 MKII HANUMAN Noank, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
CNG rises, propane sinks making propane much more hazardous if boat is properly ventilated. See masquerade (movie with Rob Lowe).Jerry Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: CNG is safer than propane but burns cooler From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; rickbr...@earthlink.net; detroit...@aol.com Cc: Patrick Davin Subject: Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC Looks like a good deal. Especially if that new engine install was well done. CNG stove is a downside vs LPG in my opinion. Not sure where they store their CNG - the box that normally holds LPG tanks under the helm seat is missing. Listing says it's a 1981 but specs tab says 1979. Sometimes brokers just mess up, but would be good to confirm which is which. No windlass (unless they omitted it from specs) with a big anchor will make for a good biceps workout. Nice Manson though. Running rigging needs replacement probably, at least the genoa sheets. Boom vang is an upgrade, that's nice. Teak toerails need reconditioning. What is that in front of the stove? A 4' tall refrigerator? Gack. I would definitely check it out! With close attention to how the engine repowering was done. -Patrick CC LF 38 Seattle, WA On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: James Schwartz detroit...@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:25:52 -0400 Subject: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC A friend of mine is pretty impressed with a 1981 LF38 for sale at Ashley Yachts in Charleston, SC and is close to making an offer on her. Jim is interested in a strong and comfortable boat for retirement cruising on the ICW starting this coming winter. He has sailed several times on my 38 mk2 and appreciates the build quality and performance, and the amenities in a LF38 are attractive to his Admiral. He has already seen the boat, and has asked me to go back with him to take a closer look at the mechanical systems before finalizing an offer. The name of the boat is “True Love”. The listing on Yacht World is: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/CC-Landfall-2842472/Mt-Pleasant/SC/United-States#.VX9bgMtRH3g Does anyone know anything about this boat or its history. I’m a bit curious about the new rudder. I also note that the tankage listed is different from the original spec sheet on an LF38. Do any of the LF owners on here see anything in the photographs on Yacht World that require further investigation, or anything that strikes you as especially desirable? Finally, if this gets to the offer stage, Jim will need to have the boat surveyed. Does anyone have a recommendation for a surveyor in the Charleston area, especially one with CC experience? A surveyor named David Hill was recommended to my friend; does anyone have experience with him or knowledge of his past performance? Thanks for the help and advice. Rick Brass Imzadi CC 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore CC 25 mk1 Washington, NC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Navtec Rod Rigging
Joel, don't know where you got the notion that Navtec rod rigging must be re-headed every 10 years or 10,000 miles.below is info taken from a Navtec site.. *As a general rule, Navtec uses a figure of 40,000 sailing miles as a time when a thorough inspection should be done. This would include inspection of all the rod heads and end fittings. If any of the heads are cracked or worn, the rod should at least be reheaded ** **One item that Navtec does recommend replacing after 10 years of use or 40,000 miles (whichever comes first) is the turnbuckle screws. *Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. * * On 2015-06-15 1:22 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote: FWIW, Navtec recommends re-heading every 10 years or 10,000 miles. Joel 35/3 The Office On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Rod Rigging. Mine is also original and the boat has been freshwater for all its life except for 4 years. I discussed the rig with one of the few (And be most accounts: the best) factory certified Navtec guys in the southeast (Rick Zern) and his advice was: Have your local guy take a look at it (While it's down if possible) or you can look at it yourself. Here's what you look for: No kinks, make sure the tangs (mast attachment ball / socket joints) are not deformed, can rotate smoothly, and are free of rust. Same with the eyes / toggles / turnbuckles: free of rust, smooth turning. If that passes muster, don't worry about it. As you know, rod riggings are extremely stout and don't really stretch much at all. If it has been abused, mistreated, or over-stressed in a storm, the aluminum mast structure around the tang area will deform, same for the threads on the turnbuckles: They will get distorted long before the rods or heads get damaged. Rick told me that being a certfied Navtec rigger he decided to remove his and have it lab tested. Keep in mind his boat (J-boat) had been raced hard in salt water for 15-20+ years / his rod rigging was original. Results after the dye and destructive tests done: Nothing wrong. In his words: It was a waste of money and efforts. His words (Again) if you're about to embark on extended ocean crossing passages then by all means spend the money to get work done as insurance. For the rest of us lake and coastal cruisers: Keep sailing and taking reasonable care of your rig. Regards, -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA From:davepulaski davepula...@hotmail.com To:Jean-Francois J Rivard/Atlanta/IBM@IBMUS, cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date:06/15/2015 11:26 AM Subject:RE: Stus-List 34+ transom thru-hulls Thanks for all the info François! Yes I've come to accept that those stern thru-hulls are in fact above DWL, regardless of what the painted waterline says. I'm leaning towards not going to seacocks now, probably will at least replace the old thru-hull though with a new marelon one while I'm in there. Thanks for the tip on jacking up the fuel tank! You're correct - the 2 small lines are for draining the propane tank compartment under the quadrant panel. I like that the cockpit doesn't need scuppers! While I have you - what are your thoughts on the rod rigging on these boats? AFAIK, she has all her original standing rigging. Yes she's been only in fresh water so far, but the age still gives me pause. Have you rerigged yet? Dave 1990 34+ Faith Anne Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 Original message From: Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com mailto:jfriv...@us.ibm.com Date: 06/15/2015 10:45 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: davepula...@hotmail.com mailto:davepula...@hotmail.com Subject: Stus-List 34+ transom thru-hulls Hi David, Congrats on getting the 34+. I've owned mine for 3 years and still think I could not have possibly gotten a better boat for what we do. The promise is that is gives you plentiful room and comfort at the marina / anchor and runs like a bat out of he$$ around the cans.. It does just that. All your questions are really straightforward. Exhaust hose: I replaced mine last year, it's not that bad. Your idea of connecting the old one to the new one is excellent. I just wrestled my old one out and taped a fiberglass wiring rod to the new one to pull some / guide it. The trick is to remove all the aft stateroom cushions then remove the fuel tank access panel and
Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking
Rob, This sounds like exactly my issue, thanks for the reply. Did you loosen the steering cable before you removed the collar, or did the shaft stay in place under tension? Thanks, Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:25 AM To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Cc: Robert Gallagher I have an 88 30MKII Long story short... I survey two 30MKII during my trek to find my boat. The first had a very stiff steering issue, the brokers yard fixed it before I had it surveyed. The would not tell me what was wrong or what they did to fix it. In the end, the boat surveyed poorly and the owner would not negotiate. The second boat had the same issue, but the price was right and the boat surveyed well. I purchased the boat and addressed the stiff steering issue myself. AFTER disassembling most of the steering and pedestal bits and lubricating the heck out of the lower bearing all to no avail... I removed the through bolts that hold the collar on emergency steering thingamabob. This got me to the white plasiticish bearing doohicky. I slid the bearing off, sanded it with fine emery cloth, gave it a bath in lots of white synthetic grease safe for plastic bits and put it all back together. Three seasons later both the steering and myself are still smooth as silk. Rob 88 MKII HANUMAN Noank, CT___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I’ll second Dennis’ recommendation! Have the Makita 18v, and it is a work horse, both at home and on the boat. Paul Fountain From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:49 AM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I can understand why you would think you want a 12v drill. You think it will be cheaper, lighter, and smaller. That being said, I love my 18v Makita (white and black). Maybe a little bulkier than I'd like for the boat but it has never let me down. On Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking
Rob: Another factor that probably improved the steering was the possibility that the bearing collar that is mounted to the deck was misaligned when it was stiff and corrected when you reassembled it. I experienced this problem on my LF 38 many years ago (after I bought a new rudder believing that the rudder shaft was bent). Bob On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List wrote: I have an 88 30MKII Long story short... I survey two 30MKII during my trek to find my boat. The first had a very stiff steering issue, the brokers yard fixed it before I had it surveyed. The would not tell me what was wrong or what they did to fix it. In the end, the boat surveyed poorly and the owner would not negotiate. The second boat had the same issue, but the price was right and the boat surveyed well. I purchased the boat and addressed the stiff steering issue myself. AFTER disassembling most of the steering and pedestal bits and lubricating the heck out of the lower bearing all to no avail... I removed the through bolts that hold the collar on emergency steering thingamabob. This got me to the white plasiticish bearing doohicky. I slid the bearing off, sanded it with fine emery cloth, gave it a bath in lots of white synthetic grease safe for plastic bits and put it all back together. Three seasons later both the steering and myself are still smooth as silk. Rob 88 MKII HANUMAN Noank, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days (1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230) email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch replacement
Ocean 60 no flange. Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 Just west of Ballard *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 3:05 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Joel Aronson *Subject:* Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch replacement For those who have replaced their forward AH hatch with a Lewmar 60 series, did you use the low, medium or ocean profile hatch? With or without flange on the Ocean? Defender has the medium on closeout. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Cockpit drain/scupper screens
I don't know about your specific boat, but at least some of the older models used common sink drains. You might try looking in the plumbing section of your local hardware supplier. My boat has bronze drains, but there is no screen. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Charles Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Charles Nelson cenel...@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 20:02 Subject: Stus-List Cockpit drain/scupper screens I am trying to find replacement screens for the cockpit drains on my 1995 XL/kcb--built in the Canadian plant between 1993-1995. It is plastic, 2 5/16 in diameter and white. It is not a Forespar model and my internet searches have not turned up anything identical. Does anyone on the list know where CC may have sourced these--screen and drain? Thanks, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I use a few cordless drills. Wore out a couple of old Makita 9v units and now have a Porter Cable 18v. With a charger and two batteries. It is not lithium ion so is rather heavy. For light duty, I have a BD 9.9v unit which is handy and light but you have to plug the charging cord into the drill to charge the battery even though it is removable, so you can't do a quick switch. I second the recommendations for 18v and lithium ion. I would forget the 12v cig. lighter plug and go for a charger and two batteries, so you can swap them out. Inverter would be nice if you don't want to cart a battery back and forth and don't have shore power. Gary Nylander - Original Message - From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: CC List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I can understand why you would think you want a 12v drill. You think it will be cheaper, lighter, and smaller. That being said, I love my 18v Makita (white and black). Maybe a little bulkier than I'd like for the boat but it has never let me down. On Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
This is newer than a 79, It also has the nav station w/ no starboard Quarter berth. I am going to guess it is closer to an 82 or 83 vintage. I agree with the other comments on the stainless holding tank. and that fridge...UHK!! Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 just west of Ballard On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stainless steel is not resistant to the type of acids salt you get in a holding tank--plastic is much better. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:07 PM, detroit...@aol.com wrote: why not agood idea? jim =20 =20 -Original Message- From: Robert Boyer dainyr...@icloud.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net; James Schwartz detroit...@aol.co= m Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 7:30 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston,= SC =20 Seems like a ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking
Rob, This list is incredible! I have been researching how to deal with squeaky, groaning steering on my '89 30 MKII. I am almost certain I have the exact issue that you addressed. Questions: 1. Can I remove the emergency tiller collar while the boat is in the water? (I suspect that I can but this is a question worth asking). 2. Is it as easy as you describe? Do I simply remove the bolts, take off the collar, and pull out the plastic bearing? Are there any issues I should be aware of? 3. Do you recommend any particular brand of grease? I'm going to try to tackle this tonight. Thanks! Robert H. 1989 30 MKII Original message From: Robert Gallagher via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 06-16-2015 7:25 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Robert Gallagher trys...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking I have an 88 30MKII Long story short... I survey two 30MKII during my trek to find my boat. The first had a very stiff steering issue, the brokers yard fixed it before I had it surveyed. The would not tell me what was wrong or what they did to fix it. In the end, the boat surveyed poorly and the owner would not negotiate. The second boat had the same issue, but the price was right and the boat surveyed well. I purchased the boat and addressed the stiff steering issue myself. AFTER disassembling most of the steering and pedestal bits and lubricating the heck out of the lower bearing all to no avail... I removed the through bolts that hold the collar on emergency steering thingamabob. This got me to the white plasiticish bearing doohicky. I slid the bearing off, sanded it with fine emery cloth, gave it a bath in lots of white synthetic grease safe for plastic bits and put it all back together. Three seasons later both the steering and myself are still smooth as silk. Rob88 MKIIHANUMANNoank, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
The brushless motors do get better battery life. http://www.milwaukeetool.com/system/m12-fuel http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/batteries-and-chargers/2510-20 I have the 18V version, was on sale at the time. Great drill. One thing I like is the ability to slow start into aluminum or SS and drill with good torque at low RPM. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
If you are dead set on a 12v then consider the Majors 12v. This is the little brother to the 18v we've all been advocating. Makita FD02W 12V max Lithium-Ion Cordless 3/8-Inch Driver-Drill Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EYI18G/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_eUeGvbGDY9S6G Josh On Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote: I can understand why you would think you want a 12v drill. You think it will be cheaper, lighter, and smaller. That being said, I love my 18v Makita (white and black). Maybe a little bulkier than I'd like for the boat but it has never let me down. On Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
I'm no expert on the LF38 but I'm an expert window shopper on yachtworld ;) I doubt there's been one listed in the past three years I haven't ogled. I've seen listings with every configuration that Fred mentions and I've definitely seen the laminate doors on newer boats. I think it must have been an option. Same with the separate shower, that must have been an option too because I've seen later boats with and without it. I notice these things because I value both (separate shower and wood). I'm not sure about the wrap around galley but I'm under the impression that it's a newer boat thing. The LF 38 is on the short list .. when the time comes. Hence the interest. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Doug — all the newer than 1980/81 LF38s I’ve seen have used teak ply doors in the galley, rather than the laminate-covered ones I’ve got on my 1979; and many have the wrap-around galley, with the peninsula forward of the range, as well as a separate shower stall in place of the drawer stack forward of the head. I’m very sure this is NOT a 1982 or 1983 boat. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This is newer than a 79, It also has the nav station w/ no starboard Quarter berth. I am going to guess it is closer to an 82 or 83 vintage. I agree with the other comments on the stainless holding tank. and that fridge...UHK!! Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 just west of Ballard ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
Doug — all the newer than 1980/81 LF38s I’ve seen have used teak ply doors in the galley, rather than the laminate-covered ones I’ve got on my 1979; and many have the wrap-around galley, with the peninsula forward of the range, as well as a separate shower stall in place of the drawer stack forward of the head. I’m very sure this is NOT a 1982 or 1983 boat. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This is newer than a 79, It also has the nav station w/ no starboard Quarter berth. I am going to guess it is closer to an 82 or 83 vintage. I agree with the other comments on the stainless holding tank. and that fridge...UHK!! Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 just west of Ballard ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
Fred, maybe I am wrong but the drawers in the engine room access door make me think it is newer. But then having hull #4 every LF38 is newer. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2015 09:40To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Frederick G Street;Subject:Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SCDoug — all the newer than 1980/81 LF38s I’ve seen have used teak ply doors in the galley, rather than the laminate-covered ones I’ve got on my 1979; and many have the wrap-around galley, with the peninsula forward of the range, as well as a separate shower stall in place of the drawer stack forward of the head. I’m very sure this is NOT a 1982 or 1983 boat. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This is newer than a 79, It also has the nav station w/ no starboard Quarter berth. I am going to guess it is closer to an 82 or 83 vintage. I agree with the other comments on the stainless holding tank. and that fridge...UHK!! Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 just west of Ballard ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
Yeah, I’m hull #9… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 16, 2015, at 12:43 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But then having hull #4 every LF38 is newer. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Thanks - 12Volt cordless drill
Thanks everyone for the responses re the 12 volt Cordless drill. I do have a 18 volt Black and Decker that has served me well over the past 10 years but don't leave it on board after commissioning each spring. I do have an old manual drill on board and I will probably stick with that to save space and weight. Thanks Again! John Arpeggio 32 Norwalk CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in Charleston, SC
I have a 1983 LF38 and my cabinet doors in the galley are some some type of cream colored laminate over plywood--not teak. The galley arrangement as well as the shower arrangement were options in 1983. The separate shower (which I don't have) I understand was a popular and valued option. I have an L-shaped galley. Bob On Jun 16, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: Doug — all the newer than 1980/81 LF38s I’ve seen have used teak ply doors in the galley, rather than the laminate-covered ones I’ve got on my 1979; and many have the wrap-around galley, with the peninsula forward of the range, as well as a separate shower stall in place of the drawer stack forward of the head. I’m very sure this is NOT a 1982 or 1983 boat. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This is newer than a 79, It also has the nav station w/ no starboard Quarter berth. I am going to guess it is closer to an 82 or 83 vintage. I agree with the other comments on the stainless holding tank. and that fridge...UHK!! Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 just west of Ballard ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days (1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230) email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek *From:* Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail billbinal...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek *From:* Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail mailto:billbinal...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I swore off battery powered drills altogether for reasons of short drill life.. About 10 years ago I was on my 2nd or 3rd cordless drill needing replacement (Again) because it was cheaper than replacing the battery when a pretty beefy 120 volt powered model that was about 1/3rd the price caught my eye.. I never looked back. It's bullet proof, always ready to serve, and never runs out of power no matter how heavy the job. For the areas where I need portability or small size I still use my 35 year old Brookstone hand powered drill. That one's foolproof as well. Just an idea -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Bina - gmail Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List I need information on a LF38 for sale in
A quick search for a documented “True Love” only shows one LF38 which is a 1981 hull#105 and list a hailing port of Charleston, SC. Coast Guard Vessel Documentation Data found in current database. Vessel Name:TRUE LOVE USCG Doc. No.: 655317 Vessel Service: RECREATIONALIMO Number: * Trade Indicator:RecreationalCall Sign: * Hull Material: FRP (FIBERGLASS)Hull Number:CCY38105M81H Ship Builder: CC YACHTS INC Year Built: 1981 Length (ft.): 37.6 Hailing Port: CHARLESTON SC Hull Depth (ft.): 5.7 Owner: Hull Breadth (ft.): 12.2 Gross Tonnage: 13 Net Tonnage:11 Documentation Issuance Date:June 30, 2004 Documentation Expiration Date: * Previous Vessel Names: No Vessel Name Changes Previous Vessel Owners: FRANCIS X MCGOWAN JR. FRANCIS X. MCGOWAN, JR. FRANCIS X. MCGOWAN, JR. JOHN F CORKERY url: http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/pls/webpls/cgv_pkg.vessel_id_list?vessel_id_in=655317 - Paul E. 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek *From:* Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail billbinal...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I have been using a 18v Milwaukee right angle drill for about 8 yrs for hauling mainsail up, had to change battery once in that time. Love it. Richard Davis Skycatcher CC 38 mk3 Oxnard, CA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Right angle drills (was cordless drills)
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. Speaking of right angle drills, the Admiral gave me the Bosch cordless right angle drill for Christmas. It's a horse. I use it more often than you'd think. Current job is a complete re-wire of a Hans Christian 38. I've used it 3-4 times inside the cabinetry just on the 120 volt side. My buddy has a corded right angle drill. He has used his quite a lot also. When you need one, you need one. I tell people about my part time paid hobby of working on boats I don't make a lot of money, but I end up with some awesome tools. :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
… What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80’s?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
OK, but that is a different application than a generic drill. I should get one so my wife can hoist me up the mast to fix my windex. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 8:34 PM, Richard Davis via CnC-List wrote: I have been using a 18v Milwaukee right angle drill for about 8 yrs for hauling mainsail up, had to change battery once in that time. Love it. Richard Davis Skycatcher CC 38 mk3 Oxnard, CA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List island planet sails
Anyone have experience with Island Planet sails? More specifically the composite sails? ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List island planet sails
I asked them for a quote on a jib, was told I would get one shortly and never heard from them again. Which I interpreted as a sign, so I didn't chase them. Ended up going with the local North loft. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 9:12 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List wrote: Anyone have experience with Island Planet sails? More specifically the composite sails? ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
