Re: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

If an external strainer then make sure it’s one that hinges open so it can be 
cleaned out ... either with a dive or during haul-out. 

Without an external strainer and a straight-run from internal strainer to 
seacock you can rod-out the intake if needed.

I upgraded our raw water intake from 1/2 to 3/4 inch when I redid through-hulls 
last year. I didn’t install the external strainer since the old intake didn’t 
have one and I figured if I had problems it wouldn’t be hard to install during 
the next haul-out. 

We have a Vetus strainer.

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

From: John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

Hi Rob

 

Good to see you the other day in Noank.  We have the Yanmar 3GM with Sendur 
fresh water conversion.  Raw water inlet is ½ inch opening with no strainer 
using proper barrel type seacock, straight hose connection to a screw on 
plastic strainer then hose to engine.  The strainer is forward of the engine 
with clear plastic barrel so easy to see each time we move the stairs.  I make 
it a habit to unscrew and clean every few weeks as it does catch eel grass and 
gets crudded up.   I also listen for healthy water flow from the exhaust every 
time I start the engine.  No problems for 16 years now

 

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
Gallagher via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Gallagher
Subject: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

 

I went from a 30-1 with an A-4 to a 30-2 with a Yanmar 2gm20F.

 

My AF had no 90 elbow from the seacock.  No internal strainer, just the little 
colander screwed to the outside of the hull.

 

My Yanmar has the 90 degree elbow, internal strainer, no pasta strainer on the 
outside.

 

Well, last week I started motoring and the Temp alarm went off.  I shut it down 
and checked the internal strainer and it was clean enough.  Started the engine, 
no temp alarm but I could see straight away no water coming through the exhaust.

 

Pulled off the hose and opened the seacock...barely a dribble.

 

Pulled off the elbow and I could see seaweed jammed up in there.  The top of 
the 90 deg. elbow has a threaded plug so I removed that.  Still had a job 
getting the jammed up weed out with needle nose and a screwdriver.

 

Thinking of putting an external strainer on the intake this winter

Good idea or NOT so good?

 

Rob

C&C 30 MKII

Hanuman

Noank, CT





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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

in fresh water your boat sits lower.   ;-)

Leslie.


On Wed, 8/19/15, William Hall via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners
 To: "cnc-list" 
 Cc: "William Hall" 
 Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 7:33 AM
 
 My C&C
 37 has the house batteries in about that same place.  Easy
 to get to.  The only issue is that between batteries,
 inverter, radome etc, the boat sits a little low in the
 stern, leading to growth on the gel coat just above the
 bottom paint.  My solution was to move to
 freshwater!
 BillStarfire1985
 C&C 37Now in Ludington, MI
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at
 10:20 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 I put two extra batteries on a
 shelf I build in the starboard cockpit locker against the
 forward bulkhead.  I used sealed batteries throughout so
 those two that are a bitch to get to won't need much
 attention.
 Bob
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Rick
 Brass via CnC-List wrote:
 I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to
 NC, and along the way we are making up a project list. The
 boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
 
 The current setup has one new
 start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries in parallel
 as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be
 replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to
 maximize the AHR capacity and try to increase the number of
 batteries in the house bank. 
 
 The start battery is in the locker under the
 front half of the quarter berth. The house batteries are on
 a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment (and are
 a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on
 the shelf.
 
 So where have
 you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size
 of you house bank?
 
 Rick
 Brass
 Jim Schwartz
 s/v Sea
 Ya
 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
 
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Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Hi all, I'm throwing a line here and I'm looking for local knowledge of the 
Newport area.

Me and my girlfriend are looking to go at the Newport boat show and are looking 
for accommodation. We are open to camping (tent) but is it a good idea? We 
found the Melville pounds campground in Porthsmouth. Will the drive be like 
really bad? Any comments please.

airbnb has some closer options but nothing under 150$ a night for a room in an 
apartment closer to the show... Higher price but maybe it's the way to go to 
enjoy our stay?

Thanks for your help local "cncciers"

Bruno Lachance
87 c&c 33 mkII
Bécassine
new Richmond, Qc

Envoyé de mon iPad
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Re: Stus-List Baby Stay on 30-2

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Nor does mine otherwise I wouldn't be looking at the vang tension solution.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:09 AM allen via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Not my model.  The 30XL and 30R models did.
>
> Allen Miles
> s/v Septima
> Hampton, VA
>
> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:51 PM
> *To:* C&C List 
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Baby Stay on 30-2
>
> Does the C&C 30 have a deck track which provides more or less tension on
> the baby stay?
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Aug 18, 2015 7:16 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Snap shackle on mine
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I too would like to do something with my 30-2 baby stay. I actually saw
>>> a 30-1 near by with a 3 or 4 to 1 purchase with a cam cleat (like a
>>> traditional boom vang) for his baby stay. I very much like this idea in
>>> that it is a) removable and b) could be tension-ed for mid section mast
>>> bend in blowy conditions. I hope to do away with the cable and replace with
>>> Dyneema or eq, and then connect the purchase to the bottom of that.
>>>
>>> It's not high on my project list right now however.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> Portland
>>> 30-2
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Yep, pelican hook, same here.

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 C&C 37+
 Solomons, MD
 On Aug 18, 2015 5:36 PM, "Bill Bina via CnC-List" <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I terminated mine with a pelican hook. Works great.
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 8/18/2015 5:29 PM, allen via CnC-List wrote:
>
>> Readying Septima for some fall cruising. Given the milder winds here,
>> I
>> would like to have a quick disconnect on the base of the baby stay so
>> I
>> can tie it off to the mast freeing space to bring the dink up on the
>> foredeck.
>> What hardware is best in this application?
>> Allen Miles
>> s/v Septima
>> Hampton, VA
>>
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Fred:

You know, I was on board a LF38 with your layout just recently and I never 
opened the starboard cockpit locker.  I'm glad you have more space there than I 
imagined!

Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob — the starboard cockpit locker on my boat (the dual quarterberth version) 
> is MUCH larger than the silly little port locker.  The berth itself only runs 
> partway aft in that space, and outboard; the locker accesses the water heater 
> (forward), the entire starboard side of the engine, and back to the fuel tank 
> and steering.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the port quarter berth/starboard nav station layout and the biggest 
>> advantage I see is the increased size of the starboard cockpit locker.  If 
>> you are changing things around, I would look into better access to this 
>> space (which I assume is like my port locker now--very shallow and not very 
>> usable).
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bob — the starboard cockpit locker on my boat (the dual quarterberth version) 
is MUCH larger than the silly little port locker.  The berth itself only runs 
partway aft in that space, and outboard; the locker accesses the water heater 
(forward), the entire starboard side of the engine, and back to the fuel tank 
and steering.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the port quarter berth/starboard nav station layout and the biggest 
> advantage I see is the increased size of the starboard cockpit locker.  If 
> you are changing things around, I would look into better access to this space 
> (which I assume is like my port locker now--very shallow and not very usable).

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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Doug:

You really don't need two batteries for starting--one Group 24 should do it.  
The old YANMAR starters are dinosaurs in terms of their energy usage but you 
should still be OK with one battery.  Last summer I changed my starter to a 
newer type of starter (not YANMAR brand) and greatly reduced the energy 
consumption during starting.  By the way, I think the newer YANMAR replacement 
starters are the same as my new starter in terms of energy consumption.

4D's are a bear to lift!  When you look at how much space is used per unit of 
energy storage, there is little to be saved by using a 4D as opposed to a 
number of smaller batteries.  However, you can significantly increase energy 
storage by changing your Group 24's or 27's to Group 31's with more amp-hours 
in essentially the same footprint as the smaller batteries.

I have the port quarter berth/starboard nav station layout and the biggest 
advantage I see is the increased size of the starboard cockpit locker.  If you 
are changing things around, I would look into better access to this space 
(which I assume is like my port locker now--very shallow and not very usable).

I looked into 6-volt golf cart batteries pretty extensively and the only real 
advantage you get is possible a longer service life on the batteries.  They 
take up the same space per unit of energy stored as 12-volt batteries.  I have 
a boat neighbor who is replacing his 6-volt (wet cell) batteries after 12 years 
of service on a boat that was not used very much, which is outstanding, but I 
don't think you can expect this kind of service life on a boat that is used a 
lot.

Even though I like my nav station, electronics have evolved into helm-mounted 
units and a nav station (for navigation) is really no longer needed.  The 
waterproof VHF units can be mounted at the helm too.

Bob


On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote:

> On Pegasus I have the hot water heater under the port q-berth but soon to be 
> mover further aft, I will add a bulkhead to keep the heat away from the 
> battery and I will put a house battery there. either a pair of 6 volts or a 
> 4d. had one next to the heater and cooked it. I also have a pair of 6vots on 
> the shelf just aft of the companion way steps. The starting batteries are on 
> the port shelf by the engine ( a pair of group 24's). I built a temporary 
> shelf under the stbd q-berth for a second house battery (4d). Plans are in 
> the works to convert the stbd q-berth into a nav station. battery and holding 
> tank will get moved again. One other thing I am doing is having a friend 
> build drawers that go full length in the cabinets, like the ones in the 
> galley do. Should almost double my drawer storage. I have my windlass powered 
> off of the engine batteries. 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Pegasus
> LF38 hull #4
> somewhere west of Ballard, WA
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up 
> a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
> 
> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries 
> in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced 
> in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity 
> and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank.
> 
> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter berth. 
> The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment 
> (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on the shelf.
> 
> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size of 
> you house bank?
> 
> Rick Brass
> Jim Schwartz
> s/v Sea Ya
> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
> 
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List]

On Pegasus I have the hot water heater under the port q-berth but soon to
be mover further aft, I will add a bulkhead to keep the heat away from the
battery and I will put a house battery there. either a pair of 6 volts or a
4d. had one next to the heater and cooked it. I also have a pair of 6vots
on the shelf just aft of the companion way steps. The starting batteries
are on the port shelf by the engine ( a pair of group 24's). I built a
temporary shelf under the stbd q-berth for a second house battery (4d).
Plans are in the works to convert the stbd q-berth into a nav station.
battery and holding tank will get moved again. One other thing I am doing
is having a friend build drawers that go full length in the cabinets, like
the ones in the galley do. Should almost double my drawer storage. I have
my windlass powered off of the engine batteries.

Doug Mountjoy
sv Pegasus
LF38 hull #4
somewhere west of Ballard, WA

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making
> up a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
>
> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old
> batteries in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to
> be replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the
> AHR capacity and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank.
>
> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter
> berth. The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine
> compartment (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more
> batteries on the shelf.
>
> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size
> of you house bank?
>
> Rick Brass
> Jim Schwartz
> s/v Sea Ya
> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
>
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

If this LF38 is being setup for a cruising livaboard situation, things like 
refrigeration, solar panels, and a big battery bank will be important.  Even 
more fuel capacity than the original tank in the stern will be helpful.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

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messing about in boats."  --Kenneth Grahame

> On Aug 19, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Dave Godwin  wrote:
> 
> Not sure about space underneath the quarter-berth on a LF38 but like Bill on 
> “Starfire”, the 37’ has a similar setup.
> 
> I’ve rebuilt my starter battery area underneath the quarter-berth and 
> although I only have a single starting battery per the original 
> configuration, I made sure that the new shelf would allow for a second 
> battery should I go that route.
> 
> That said, I yanked the old Raritan hot-water heater and replaced it with a 
> new Isotherm unit thereby freeing up more space.
> 
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There are two different layouts for LF38's--one has a starboard nav station 
>> (like mine) and I think Fred's has two quarter berths--one on port and the 
>> other on starboard.  The layout will affect where you will have available 
>> storage for more batteries...
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rick — I have a single start battery in a box on the shelf to port of the 
>>> engine; then two Trojan T105 golf-cart batteries in series in a Blue Sea 
>>> dual battery box under the forward inboard part of the port quarterberth.  
>>> If I do a little carpentry, I’ll be able to put one more Blue Sea box with 
>>> two more T105’s in that same spot, adjacent to and just aft of the first.  
>>> I also have my Xantrex charger and a small (600W) inverter under that berth.
>>> 
>>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>>> 
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making 
 up a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
 
 The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old 
 batteries in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to 
 be replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the 
 AHR capacity and try to increase the number of batteries in the house 
 bank. 
 
 The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter 
 berth. The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine 
 compartment (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more 
 batteries on the shelf.
 
 So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size 
 of you house bank?
 
 Rick Brass
 Jim Schwartz
 s/v Sea Ya
 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
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Re: Stus-List 37 icebox rebuild

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Pete,

No, I haven't started in on that but plan to this winter in the shed. Of 
course, my project plan called for it to get done last year. And the year 
before that. Sound familiar? 

I will post on the blog and let you know what I find when I get started in on 
it. Seems a daunting project to me. 

Okay, back to sanding the decks.

Best,
Dave

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> On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Pete Shelquist  
> wrote:
> 
> Dave –
> .   I also have a 37 (’84) and just did a quick review of your Ronin refit 
> site.  Have you tackled the re-insulation of the ice box?  It’s been on my 
> list for a couple years and I’m thinking about putting it on the list this 
> winter.
>  
> Thanks,
> Pete
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave 
> Godwin via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:34 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Dave Godwin
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners
>  
> Not sure about space underneath the quarter-berth on a LF38 but like Bill on 
> “Starfire”, the 37’ has a similar setup.
>  
> I’ve rebuilt my starter battery area underneath the quarter-berth and 
> although I only have a single starting battery per the original 
> configuration, I made sure that the new shelf would allow for a second 
> battery should I go that route.
>  
> That said, I yanked the old Raritan hot-water heater and replaced it with a 
> new Isotherm unit thereby freeing up more space.
>  
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
>  
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Re: Stus-List 37 icebox rebuild

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

Hi 
I want to replace the seal on my ice box.  “Paikea” is a 37+.  Anyone know 
where to source that seal material?  Thanks

Rick
Blake Island (today)

> On Aug 19, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dave – 
> .   I also have a 37 (’84) and just did a quick review of your Ronin refit 
> site.  Have you tackled the re-insulation of the ice box?  It’s been on my 
> list for a couple years and I’m thinking about putting it on the list this 
> winter.
>  
> Thanks,
> Pete
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:34 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Dave Godwin
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners
>  
> Not sure about space underneath the quarter-berth on a LF38 but like Bill on 
> “Starfire”, the 37’ has a similar setup.
>  
> I’ve rebuilt 
> 
>  my starter battery area underneath the quarter-berth and although I only 
> have a single starting battery per the original configuration, I made sure 
> that the new shelf would allow for a second battery should I go that route.
>  
> That said, I yanked the old Raritan hot-water heater and replaced it with a 
> new Isotherm unit thereby freeing up more space.
>  
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
>  
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Stus-List 37 icebox rebuild

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dave - 

.   I also have a 37 ('84) and just did a quick review of your Ronin refit
site.  Have you tackled the re-insulation of the ice box?  It's been on my
list for a couple years and I'm thinking about putting it on the list this
winter.

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

 

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Godwin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Godwin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

 

Not sure about space underneath the quarter-berth on a LF38 but like Bill on
"Starfire", the 37' has a similar setup.

 

I've rebuilt
  my starter battery area underneath the quarter-berth and although I
only have a single starting battery per the original configuration, I made
sure that the new shelf would allow for a second battery should I go that
route.

 

That said, I yanked the old Raritan hot-water heater and replaced it with a
new Isotherm unit thereby freeing up more space.

 

Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay

Ronin  's Overdue Refit

 

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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Not sure about space underneath the quarter-berth on a LF38 but like Bill on 
“Starfire”, the 37’ has a similar setup.

I’ve rebuilt 

 my starter battery area underneath the quarter-berth and although I only have 
a single starting battery per the original configuration, I made sure that the 
new shelf would allow for a second battery should I go that route.

That said, I yanked the old Raritan hot-water heater and replaced it with a new 
Isotherm unit thereby freeing up more space.

Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are two different layouts for LF38's--one has a starboard nav station 
> (like mine) and I think Fred's has two quarter berths--one on port and the 
> other on starboard.  The layout will affect where you will have available 
> storage for more batteries...
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
> 
>> Rick — I have a single start battery in a box on the shelf to port of the 
>> engine; then two Trojan T105 golf-cart batteries in series in a Blue Sea 
>> dual battery box under the forward inboard part of the port quarterberth.  
>> If I do a little carpentry, I’ll be able to put one more Blue Sea box with 
>> two more T105’s in that same spot, adjacent to and just aft of the first.  I 
>> also have my Xantrex charger and a small (600W) inverter under that berth.
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making 
>>> up a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
>>> 
>>> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old 
>>> batteries in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to 
>>> be replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the 
>>> AHR capacity and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank. 
>>> 
>>> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter 
>>> berth. The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine 
>>> compartment (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more 
>>> batteries on the shelf.
>>> 
>>> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size 
>>> of you house bank?
>>> 
>>> Rick Brass
>>> Jim Schwartz
>>> s/v Sea Ya
>>> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
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> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com 
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Re: Stus-List Practical Sailor C&C 33

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

paywall

On 8/19/2015 10:55 AM, PME via CnC-List wrote:
There is a nice article in Practical Sailor's September issue 
(available online) on the C&C 33 mark II.

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL






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Stus-List Practical Sailor C&C 33

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There is a nice article in Practical Sailor's September issue (available 
online) on the C&C 33 mark II.
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S/V Johanna Rose
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

There are two different layouts for LF38's--one has a starboard nav station 
(like mine) and I think Fred's has two quarter berths--one on port and the 
other on starboard.  The layout will affect where you will have available 
storage for more batteries...

Bob

On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:

> Rick — I have a single start battery in a box on the shelf to port of the 
> engine; then two Trojan T105 golf-cart batteries in series in a Blue Sea dual 
> battery box under the forward inboard part of the port quarterberth.  If I do 
> a little carpentry, I’ll be able to put one more Blue Sea box with two more 
> T105’s in that same spot, adjacent to and just aft of the first.  I also have 
> my Xantrex charger and a small (600W) inverter under that berth.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up 
>> a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
>> 
>> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries 
>> in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced 
>> in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity 
>> and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank. 
>> 
>> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter 
>> berth. The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine 
>> compartment (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries 
>> on the shelf.
>> 
>> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size 
>> of you house bank?
>> 
>> Rick Brass
>> Jim Schwartz
>> s/v Sea Ya
>> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
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blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Rick — I have a single start battery in a box on the shelf to port of the 
engine; then two Trojan T105 golf-cart batteries in series in a Blue Sea dual 
battery box under the forward inboard part of the port quarterberth.  If I do a 
little carpentry, I’ll be able to put one more Blue Sea box with two more 
T105’s in that same spot, adjacent to and just aft of the first.  I also have 
my Xantrex charger and a small (600W) inverter under that berth.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 19, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up 
> a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
> 
> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries 
> in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced 
> in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity 
> and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank. 
> 
> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter berth. 
> The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment 
> (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on the shelf.
> 
> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size of 
> you house bank?
> 
> Rick Brass
> Jim Schwartz
> s/v Sea Ya
> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Here are some pics of my installation for the extra 2 batteries:

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag50/RainyDays99/Platforminstallation_zpsd2585075.jpg

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag50/RainyDays99/Completedbatteryinstallation_zpsd03c7fa3.jpg

Bob

On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:

> I put two extra batteries on a shelf I build in the starboard cockpit locker 
> against the forward bulkhead.  I used sealed batteries throughout so those 
> two that are a bitch to get to won't need much attention.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
> 
>> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up 
>> a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
>> 
>> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries 
>> in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced 
>> in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity 
>> and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank. 
>> 
>> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter 
>> berth. The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine 
>> compartment (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries 
>> on the shelf.
>> 
>> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size 
>> of you house bank?
>> 
>> Rick Brass
>> Jim Schwartz
>> s/v Sea Ya
>> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> 
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blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[William Hall via CnC-List]

My C&C 37 has the house batteries in about that same place.  Easy to get
to.  The only issue is that between batteries, inverter, radome etc, the
boat sits a little low in the stern, leading to growth on the gel coat just
above the bottom paint.  My solution was to move to freshwater!

Bill
Starfire
1985 C&C 37
Now in Ludington, MI

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I put two extra batteries on a shelf I build in the starboard cockpit
> locker against the forward bulkhead.  I used sealed batteries throughout so
> those two that are a bitch to get to won't need much attention.
>
> Bob
>
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making
> up a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
>
> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old
> batteries in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to
> be replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the
> AHR capacity and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank.
>
> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter
> berth. The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine
> compartment (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more
> batteries on the shelf.
>
> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size
> of you house bank?
>
> Rick Brass
> Jim Schwartz
> s/v Sea Ya
> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
> messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame
>
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I put two extra batteries on a shelf I build in the starboard cockpit locker 
against the forward bulkhead.  I used sealed batteries throughout so those two 
that are a bitch to get to won't need much attention.

Bob

On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:

> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up 
> a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
> 
> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries 
> in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced 
> in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity 
> and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank. 
> 
> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter berth. 
> The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment 
> (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on the shelf.
> 
> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size of 
> you house bank?
> 
> Rick Brass
> Jim Schwartz
> s/v Sea Ya
> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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email: dainyr...@icloud.com
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
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Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up a 
project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.

The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries in 
parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced in 
the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity and 
try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank. 

The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter berth. 
The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment 
(and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on the shelf.

So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size of 
you house bank?

Rick Brass
Jim Schwartz
s/v Sea Ya
1983 LF38 Hull # 105

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Re: Stus-List Anchor roller

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Here is a pic of what I call "anchor keepers"--I don't know what their correct 
name is but I bought them and added them to my boat a long time ago.  Right now 
I only have one anchor in place.

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag50/RainyDays99/Anchor%20Keepers%20w%20border_zpsz8chw4mg.jpg

Bob

On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:

> I have bronze keepers for both anchor stems.  A stainless pin goes thru the 
> keeper--not the anchor.
> 
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> 
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
> messing about in boats."  --Kenneth Grahame
> 
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:28 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I have chain connected to the anchor so I am all chain at the point we are 
>> talking about.  How do you attach a line to the chain at that point to be 
>> able to tie it off?  I can see having a chain hook with a line that I leave 
>> in the anchor locker, but it seems like it would be challenging to tie a 
>> line to the chain one handed while supporting the anchor.  Doing all of this 
>> in rough weather with the anchor swinging from the bow sounds like a recipe 
>> for disaster.
>> Is a windlass powerful enough to pull the stem over the roller?  
>> One additional question: how to people secure the anchor to the roller once 
>> it is in place?  I used to use a pin, but after that got bent and the anchor 
>> could not be deployed, I stopped using one on the recommendation of this 
>> list.  I now run a small high tech line from the stem through a deck eye and 
>> back to the bow cleat, but I wonder if a chain hook would be a better idea.
>> Dave
>> 
>> Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was using the windless to pull the chain to the point where the shank of 
>>> the anchor cleared the water. I have also pulled the chain by hand (before 
>>> the battery was hooked up) and tied the chain off when the anchor broke the 
>>> water. Once the chain is tied off (rolling hitch  with a rope or a chain 
>>> hook) I reach over the bow with the gaff and pull the anchor home. 
>>> Cheers
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:11 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I am not sure I understand what you are doing.  How do you support the 
 anchor/chain while you get forward to get a gaff hooked onto it?  Dave
 
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
> I have a Rocna 20kg anchor and although I have a windlass I don't use it 
> to pull the anchor over the roller. I use a gaff over the pulpit to hook 
> on the roller of the anchor. Pull it home with no problem and can hold in 
> place while I tighten it up. Works like a charm and a lot less stress on 
> the equipment. 
> Bill
> Mithrandir
> C&C 35 MKII
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:17 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>> And now for something completely different- I have only used my anchor a 
>> few times, but I have found it really hard to recover by hand- much 
>> harder than the one I had on my C&C34.  The anchor is heavier- Rocna 27 
>> lb, and the chain is heavier.  I can pull it up by hand, but when it 
>> gets to the roller, there is no way to get the long stem of the anchor 
>> around the 90° turn of the roller.  I am usually sitting in the anchor 
>> well with my feet braced to pull the chain up.  At that point, I have to 
>> stand up and grab the chain so I can pull vertically to get the stem 
>> over the roller.  There must be an easier way (other than a electric 
>> windlass).  Does anyone have any tricks?  Dave
>> 
>> Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List anchor roller

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kurt
Heckert via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Kurt Heckert
Subject: Re: Stus-List anchor roller

 


I also would like to see those pictures, my 35 mkII does not have a bow
roller or a chain locker.

My email address is kurt_heck...@att.net

 

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From: Rick Brass via CnC-List ; 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; 
Cc: Rick Brass ; 
Subject: Re: Stus-List anchor roller 
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 12:43:37 AM 

 


Ditto

 

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 17, 2015, at 19:53, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
 > wrote:

 

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Re: Stus-List Baby Stay on 30-2

[allen via CnC-List]

Not my model.  The 30XL and 30R models did.

Allen Miles
s/v Septima
Hampton, VA


From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:51 PM
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby Stay on 30-2


Does the C&C 30 have a deck track which provides more or less tension on the 
baby stay?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Aug 18, 2015 7:16 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"  
wrote:

  Snap shackle on mine 


  Joel

  On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I too would like to do something with my 30-2 baby stay. I actually saw a 
30-1 near by with a 3 or 4 to 1 purchase with a cam cleat (like a traditional 
boom vang) for his baby stay. I very much like this idea in that it is a) 
removable and b) could be tension-ed for mid section mast bend in blowy 
conditions. I hope to do away with the cable and replace with Dyneema or eq, 
and then connect the purchase to the bottom of that.  


It's not high on my project list right now however.


Kevin
Portland
30-2


On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Yep, pelican hook, same here.

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD 

  On Aug 18, 2015 5:36 PM, "Bill Bina via CnC-List"  
wrote:

I terminated mine with a pelican hook. Works great.

Bill Bina

On 8/18/2015 5:29 PM, allen via CnC-List wrote:

  Readying Septima for some fall cruising. Given the milder winds here, 
I
  would like to have a quick disconnect on the base of the baby stay so 
I
  can tie it off to the mast freeing space to bring the dink up on the
  foredeck.
  What hardware is best in this application?
  Allen Miles
  s/v Septima
  Hampton, VA





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Re: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Hi Rob



Good to see you the other day in Noank.  We have the Yanmar 3GM with Sendur 
fresh water conversion.  Raw water inlet is ½ inch opening with no strainer 
using proper barrel type seacock, straight hose connection to a screw on 
plastic strainer then hose to engine.  The strainer is forward of the engine 
with clear plastic barrel so easy to see each time we move the stairs.  I make 
it a habit to unscrew and clean every few weeks as it does catch eel grass and 
gets crudded up.   I also listen for healthy water flow from the exhaust every 
time I start the engine.  No problems for 16 years now





John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT





From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
Gallagher via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Gallagher
Subject: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4



I went from a 30-1 with an A-4 to a 30-2 with a Yanmar 2gm20F.



My AF had no 90 elbow from the seacock.  No internal strainer, just the little 
colander screwed to the outside of the hull.



My Yanmar has the 90 degree elbow, internal strainer, no pasta strainer on the 
outside.



Well, last week I started motoring and the Temp alarm went off.  I shut it down 
and checked the internal strainer and it was clean enough.  Started the engine, 
no temp alarm but I could see straight away no water coming through the exhaust.



Pulled off the hose and opened the seacock...barely a dribble.



Pulled off the elbow and I could see seaweed jammed up in there.  The top of 
the 90 deg. elbow has a threaded plug so I removed that.  Still had a job 
getting the jammed up weed out with needle nose and a screwdriver.



Thinking of putting an external strainer on the intake this winter

Good idea or NOT so good?



Rob

C&C 30 MKII

Hanuman

Noank, CT



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