Re: Stus-List boat names

[Patrick Wesley via CnC-List]

Make sure the name makes sense when calling on VHF. Ask me how I know!

Patrick Wesley
The Boat

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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
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> Take your last boat name and throw a 2 after it ...
> 
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> Subject: Stus-List boat names
> 
> OK coming up with a new name for our new boat is proving very difficult.
> 
> I thought I would throw it out to you guys for some ideas!
> 
> Maybe you came across something sometime and thought wow what a great name 
> for a boat!
> 
> I can't believe this is so difficult... Lol
> 
> Danny
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Re: Stus-List Looking at a C&C 33-2.... known issues?

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

It's a deathtrap, run away.

Seriously, all that sounds normal. It was designed as a RACER/cruiser, some
systems are hard to reach.
Maybe the rig has been cranked down for a while. The old adage was to grind
in the backstay until the head door doesn't work, then back it off a turn.
The windows sound normal, there are a million threads on fixing them. Check
the mast step. That is really the only weak spot on those boats. They
tended to decompose over time.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 18 September 2015 at 17:20, Bruce via CnC-List 
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> I'm looking at a mid-80s C&C 33-2. Overall, boat looks great, but would
> love to know if there are known issues with these boats that I should pay
> attention to. I know about the potential for wet core, and will be getting
> a full survey if I go forward, I'm more wondering about items peculiar to
> this model
>
> I'd be especially interested, for example, in knowing if there are
> patterns of things that need attention: things like sealing or rebedding
> hatches, replacing leaky windows, wobbly stanchion bases, hard-to-get-to
> thru-hulls, etc.
>
> Things that caught my attention in the first inspection:
>
> -- I noticed that there isn't great access to the engine - removing the
> stairs/forward cover provides access to the front, but it looks like it
> would be tough to get to the sides if needed. It looks like the only way to
> get to the shaft coupling and packing gland, for example, is through the
> cockpit lazarette. Has this proven to be an issue, or is it okay?
>
> -- it looks like there has been repair to [at least] the gelcoat at the
> forward end of the fixed plexi windows, both port and starboard. I've read
> several threads about having to replace leaking windows, is this a common
> problem? And would it have required gelcoat repair, or is it possible there
> was some other kind of issue?
>
> -- there are some stress cracks in the gelcoat at either end of the teak
> trim at the top of the transom. Is this normal (eg, just an artifact of a
> "hard corner" in the mold), or does it indicate something potentially more
> serious?
>
> -- the top of the door to the forward v-berth looks like it has been
> shaved. In other boats, that can be a sign that the interior structure has
> "racked". but all the other doors and drawers seem to be fine. Might be
> nothing, or... not. Anyone ever heard of structural issues in these boats?
> Is there access to inspect the tabbing where the bulkheads are joined to
> the hull?
>
> -- the various sections of the cabin sole are screwed down. Is this
> normal, or an owner-add? I'm generally a big fan of being able to easily
> check the bilge (and inspect the keelbolts) without tools, unless there's a
> good reason to secure those sections.
>
> Thx,
> bruce
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Stus-List Looking at a C&C 33-2.... known issues?

[Bruce via CnC-List]

I'm looking at a mid-80s C&C 33-2. Overall, boat looks great, but would love to know if there are known issues with these boats that I should pay attention to. I know about the potential for wet core, and will be getting a full survey if I go forward, I'm more wondering about items peculiar to this modelI'd be especially interested, for example, in knowing if there are patterns of things that need attention: things like sealing or rebedding hatches, replacing leaky windows, wobbly stanchion bases, hard-to-get-to thru-hulls, etc.Things that caught my attention in the first inspection:-- I noticed that there isn't great access to the engine - removing the stairs/forward cover provides access to the front, but it looks like it would be tough to get to the sides if needed. It looks like the only way to get to the shaft coupling and packing gland, for example, is through the cockpit lazarette. Has this proven to be an issue, or is it okay?-- it looks like there has been repair to [at least] the gelcoat at the forward end of the fixed plexi windows, both port and starboard. I've read several threads about having to replace leaking windows, is this a common problem? And would it have required gelcoat repair, or is it possible there was some other kind of issue?-- there are some stress cracks in the gelcoat at either end of the teak trim at the top of the transom. Is this normal (eg, just an artifact of a "hard corner" in the mold), or does it indicate something potentially more serious?-- the top of the door to the forward v-berth looks like it has been shaved. In other boats, that can be a sign that the interior structure has "racked". but all the other doors and drawers seem to be fine. Might be nothing, or... not. Anyone ever heard of structural issues in these boats? Is there access to inspect the tabbing where the bulkheads are joined to the hull?-- the various sections of the cabin sole are screwed down. Is this normal, or an owner-add? I'm generally a big fan of being able to easily check the bilge (and inspect the keelbolts) without tools, unless there's a good reason to secure those sections.Thx,bruce

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Re: Stus-List Recovering MOB

[Chris Price via CnC-List]

Or a bowline. 

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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You would need a sling or bridle.
> 
> Paul. :)
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Admiral and I have mastered the art of hoisting the inflatable 9+ foot 
>> dinghy and putting it on the foredeck for transits.  We use a halyard and a 
>> cabin top winch.  It's fairly simple.  I've even done it by myself.  Unless 
>> the wind is really honking, it's a simple matter to attach a halyard to the 
>> dinghy's bridle and hoist it high enough to clear the lifelines.  We then 
>> lower it to the deck and strap it down.
>> 
>> We also use a halyard and cabin top winch to put on or take off the dinghy's 
>> outboard.  It's an early 80's 7 hp so it isn't exactly a lightweight.
>> 
>> Don't see why you couldn't recover a MOB the same way.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List boat names

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

I saw that boat at a Chi-Mac race; it was beautiful.  Red hull with black 
letters that looked asian sticklike.  Floated on the water like a cork; must 
have been really light for its length.Frers 50 I think.RonWild CheriC&C30-1STL

  From: David via CnC-List 
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Cc: David  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names
   
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FUJIMO.

The story  goes an active racer on the Great Lakes wanted a new boat.   His 
wife, Jane, said no.  "You buy a new boat and I'm outta here".

FUJIMO. 

_ _ _K You Jane Im Moving Out

Apocryphal?  Perhaps.  


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)




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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:52:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names
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CC: gnylan...@atlanticbb.net

#yiv6402665164 #yiv6402665164 We named our 30-1 "Penniless" for obvious reasons 
22 years ago. I thought one of the most unique names was on a race boat - 
WOFTAM - used to be owned by Wendy Mittman Clarke, who was editor of Chesapeake 
Bay magazine for a while (may still be?). Waste of F.. Time and Money. Gary
 - Original Message -  From: Patrick Davin via CnC-List  To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com  Cc: Patrick Davin  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 
12:45 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names 
  When we were choosing our boat name recently we had a few guidelines:  - No 
puns, silly names, or motor boat names ("Master Baiter") - Relatively easy to 
pronounce, spell, and understand over the VHF - Uniqueness - some names are 
very common (Amazing Grace, Second Wind, etc) and it'd be unfortunate to have 
the same name as someone else in the marina or sailing region. Ideally it'd 
even be unique in the US Coast Guard database (which you can check online), in 
case you ever want to become a documented vessel. 
 If you're into music, a lot of our ideas revolved around song names - High 
Hopes (Pink Floyd), An Awesome Wave (Alt-J), Tessellate (Alt-J).  
 Although some names - like An Awesome Wave - can seem like they're tempting 
the fates / sea gods. I wouldn't pick a name like Rogue Wave because for one it 
might be bad luck, and if you ever do get into trouble, people will say "I told 
you so." 
 -Patrick S/V Violet Hour, LF38 Seattle, WA 
 On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:49 PM,  wrote:
 
 From: djhaug...@juno.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: 
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:53:59 -0400
Subject: Stus-List boat names
OK coming up with a new name for our new boat is proving very difficult.

I thought I would throw it out to you guys for some ideas!

Maybe you came across something sometime and thought wow what a great name for 
a boat!

I can't believe this is so difficult... Lol

Danny


 
 
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Re: Stus-List Recovering MOB

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

You would need a sling or bridle.

Paul. :)


> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The Admiral and I have mastered the art of hoisting the inflatable 9+ foot 
> dinghy and putting it on the foredeck for transits.  We use a halyard and a 
> cabin top winch.  It's fairly simple.  I've even done it by myself.  Unless 
> the wind is really honking, it's a simple matter to attach a halyard to the 
> dinghy's bridle and hoist it high enough to clear the lifelines.  We then 
> lower it to the deck and strap it down.
> 
> We also use a halyard and cabin top winch to put on or take off the dinghy's 
> outboard.  It's an early 80's 7 hp so it isn't exactly a lightweight.
> 
> Don't see why you couldn't recover a MOB the same way.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Recovering MOB

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The Admiral and I have mastered the art of hoisting the inflatable 9+ foot
dinghy and putting it on the foredeck for transits.  We use a halyard and a
cabin top winch.  It's fairly simple.  I've even done it by myself.  Unless
the wind is really honking, it's a simple matter to attach a halyard to the
dinghy's bridle and hoist it high enough to clear the lifelines.  We then
lower it to the deck and strap it down.

We also use a halyard and cabin top winch to put on or take off the
dinghy's outboard.  It's an early 80's 7 hp so it isn't exactly a
lightweight.

Don't see why you couldn't recover a MOB the same way.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List boat names

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

David — not apocryphal; the owner died last year:

http://sailinganarchy.com/2014/05/12/fujimo/

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 1:45 PM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> FUJIMO.
> 
> The story  goes an active racer on the Great Lakes wanted a new boat.   His 
> wife, Jane, said no.  "You buy a new boat and I'm outta here".
> 
> FUJIMO. 
> 
> _ _ _K You Jane Im Moving Out
> 
> Apocryphal?  Perhaps.  
> 
> 
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)

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Re: Stus-List boat names

[David via CnC-List]

FUJIMO.

The story  goes an active racer on the Great Lakes wanted a new boat.   His 
wife, Jane, said no.  "You buy a new boat and I'm outta here".

FUJIMO. 

_ _ _K You Jane Im Moving Out

Apocryphal?  Perhaps.  


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:52:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names
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CC: gnylan...@atlanticbb.net








We named our 30-1 "Penniless" for obvious reasons 22 years 
ago.
 
I thought one of the most unique names was on a race boat 
- WOFTAM - used to be owned by Wendy Mittman Clarke, who was editor of 
Chesapeake Bay magazine for a while (may still be?). Waste of F.. Time and 
Money.
 
Gary

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Patrick 
  Davin via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Patrick Davin 
  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:45 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names
  

  
  When we were choosing our boat name recently we had a 
  few guidelines: 
  - No puns, silly names, or motor boat names ("Master 
  Baiter")
  - Relatively easy to pronounce, spell, and understand 
  over the VHF
  - Uniqueness - some names are very common (Amazing 
  Grace, Second Wind, etc) and it'd be unfortunate to have the same name as 
  someone else in the marina or sailing region. Ideally it'd even be unique in 
  the US Coast Guard database (which you can check online), in case you ever 
  want to become a documented vessel.
  

  If you're into music, a lot of our ideas revolved 
  around song names - High Hopes (Pink Floyd), An Awesome Wave (Alt-J), 
  Tessellate (Alt-J). 
  

  Although some names - like An Awesome Wave - can seem 
  like they're tempting the fates / sea gods. I wouldn't pick a name like Rogue 
  Wave because for one it might be bad luck, and if you ever do get into 
  trouble, people will say "I told you so."
  

  -Patrick
  S/V Violet Hour, LF38
  Seattle, WA
  

  On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:49 PM,  wrote:

  
From: djhaug...@juno.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: 
Date: Wed, 
16 Sep 2015 21:53:59 -0400
Subject: Stus-List boat names
OK 
coming up with a new name for our new boat is proving very 
difficult.

I thought I would throw it out to you guys for some 
ideas!

Maybe you came across something sometime and thought wow what 
a great name for a boat!

I can't believe this is so difficult... 
Lol

Danny


  
  


  
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Re: Stus-List boat names

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I guess I was looking at an older IFC book; I found another dated 1917 
(“International Code of Signals, American Edition”), in which “AMF” means a 
compass bearing of 88° West.

Of course, in this one, “MGF” means “an equal number of” and “MIT” means 
“every”; so there must be a newer code now, where the “M”s are for “Medical”.

Frederick G Street
13925 277th Ave
Zimmerman MN   55398

f...@postaudio.net
612.839.6565 cell

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I looked through the codes and didn’t find ANY that started with Alpha; all 
> the three-letter codes started with Bravo (the first one is “BCD”, abandon).
> 
> The Alpha flag by itself means “diver down.”  Maybe “AMF” means “diver down, 
> M^%$*& F%$#@!”   :^)
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> not to spoil the fun, but the International Flag Code is hardly ever used to 
>> spell anything. Each combination of flags has its own meaning (very seldom 
>> in any way related to the letters used).
>>  
>> I don’t have handy the full IFC manual to decode “AMF”, but I bet it has a 
>> meaning and it is different from the one used in the Morse code. 
>>  
>> E.g. all three letter codes starting with M are reserved for medical 
>> messages (MIT – patient has persistent hiccoughs, or MTD32 – You should give 
>> aspirin tablets, or (an interesting one) MGF – patient has cut throat).
>>  
>> Marek
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Re: Stus-List boat names

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I looked through the codes and didn’t find ANY that started with Alpha; all the 
three-letter codes started with Bravo (the first one is “BCD”, abandon).

The Alpha flag by itself means “diver down.”  Maybe “AMF” means “diver down, 
M^%$*& F%$#@!”   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> not to spoil the fun, but the International Flag Code is hardly ever used to 
> spell anything. Each combination of flags has its own meaning (very seldom in 
> any way related to the letters used).
>  
> I don’t have handy the full IFC manual to decode “AMF”, but I bet it has a 
> meaning and it is different from the one used in the Morse code. 
>  
> E.g. all three letter codes starting with M are reserved for medical messages 
> (MIT – patient has persistent hiccoughs, or MTD32 – You should give aspirin 
> tablets, or (an interesting one) MGF – patient has cut throat).
>  
> Marek

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Re: Stus-List boat names

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

not to spoil the fun, but the International Flag Code is hardly ever used to 
spell anything. Each combination of flags has its own meaning (very seldom in 
any way related to the letters used).

I don’t have handy the full IFC manual to decode “AMF”, but I bet it has a 
meaning and it is different from the one used in the Morse code. 

E.g. all three letter codes starting with M are reserved for medical messages 
(MIT – patient has persistent hiccoughs, or MTD32 – You should give aspirin 
tablets, or (an interesting one) MGF – patient has cut throat).

Marek


From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 11:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names

Funny: 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Alpha+Mike+Foxtrot


Joel

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  If I were going to use signal flags, it would be on the stern of a racing 
sailboat: Alpha Mike Foxtrot (Look it up)


  All the best,

  Edd


  Edd M. Schillay
  Starship Enterprise
  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
  City Island, NY 
  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log














On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Saw that name on a power boat in Annapolis a couple weeks ago on vacation.  
Had the signal flags; looked kinda cool.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL




From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names


Local Boat:  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot  
WTF?

Joel




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Re: Stus-List Reboarding

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I guess all these discussions point out that the best (and, more than 
likely, only) solution is to make sure that you never leave the deck. This 
means that you have to be attached with short enough tether that it won't 
let you go overboard. As usual (and regardless of the environment) security 
is the opposite of convenience.


Marek

-Original Message- 
From: Janko Puls via CnC-List

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Janko Puls
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reboarding - was Re: - Inflable life jacket - 
inflation


Hi,

I was looking into the reboarding solution as described earlier: Lifesling 
2, attached to the snapshackled main sheet blocks on the boom, which can 
swing out over to the victim. We tested this on our 30' MKI and found that 
this construction doesn't lift the POB high enough over the life lines. 
Especially if the POB doesn't wear a harness where you could shackle in but 
you have to use the Lifesling itself. For this reason I put an extra 
carabine hook onto the lifesling loop and hope it never hits someone's head 
in the water. Another small problem with the boom solution is that you need 
to rig another line quickly (like a reef line) to keep the boom under 
control in and inboards again. Unfortunately people seem to have the 
tendency to go overboard when you have your hands full anyway.


At this point it seems to be easier and faster to use an unused halyard and 
run it over the main winch - make sure that this halyard is long enough in 
the first place though. I don't have the Lifesling tackle set since it seems 
no big improvement over the halyard/winch solution except a swiveled block. 
The halyard solution has the additional advantage that the swinging of the 
POB is much less violent in choppy seas when the upper block/sheave is as 
high as possible (swinging circle segment is much bigger). That speaks 
against the boom solution as well. First I had deemed that more elegant and 
safer since you don't have to leave the cockpit, but the opeartion is indeed 
much easier with the halyard.


I agree that a standard swim ladder is too hard to climb for exhausted POBs, 
especially with PFDs inflated. We tested that with fit young folks in a 
summerly Long Island Sound at and were surprised about the quick exhaustion 
and hypothermia of or "victims".


These are my two cents. Cheers, and stay safe

Janko
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Re: Stus-List Reboarding - was Re: - Inflable life jacket - inflation

[Janko Puls via CnC-List]

Hi,

I was looking into the reboarding solution as described earlier: Lifesling 2, 
attached to the snapshackled main sheet blocks on the boom, which can swing out 
over to the victim. We tested this on our 30' MKI and found that this 
construction doesn't lift the POB high enough over the life lines. Especially 
if the POB doesn't wear a harness where you could shackle in but you have to 
use the Lifesling itself. For this reason I put an extra carabine hook onto the 
lifesling loop and hope it never hits someone's head in the water. Another 
small problem with the boom solution is that you need to rig another line 
quickly (like a reef line) to keep the boom under control in and inboards 
again. Unfortunately people seem to have the tendency to go overboard when you 
have your hands full anyway. 

At this point it seems to be easier and faster to use an unused halyard and run 
it over the main winch - make sure that this halyard is long enough in the 
first place though. I don't have the Lifesling tackle set since it seems no big 
improvement over the halyard/winch solution except a swiveled block. The 
halyard solution has the additional advantage that the swinging of the POB is 
much less violent in choppy seas when the upper block/sheave is as high as 
possible (swinging circle segment is much bigger). That speaks against the boom 
solution as well. First I had deemed that more elegant and safer since you 
don't have to leave the cockpit, but the opeartion is indeed much easier with 
the halyard.

I agree that a standard swim ladder is too hard to climb for exhausted POBs, 
especially with PFDs inflated. We tested that with fit young folks in a 
summerly Long Island Sound at and were surprised about the quick exhaustion and 
hypothermia of or "victims".

These are my two cents. Cheers, and stay safe

Janko
C&C 30 MKI 'Messing About'
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A photo book by Janko Puls.

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Re: Stus-List Signal Flags

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Someone once advised me never to rely on the loops in the signal flags to 
recover the halyard. I always use a messenger line attached directly to the 
shackle "just in case". 

For years I used two halyards - one for bow and one for stern - then saw some 
folks at Stamford YC use a single halyard - boy it's so much easier



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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 12:15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Stu,
> 
> No pictures, sorry. One of the loops on a signal flag came apart in the 
> overnight blow, dropping a few to the deck and the others streaming off the 
> halyard. We loosened the halyard completely in hopes that the breeze and 
> movement would work the flags some of the way down, inch by inch. Which it 
> did — a little. 
> 
> The next day, between Clinton and Black Rock, we had a lull in the breeze and 
> took the opportunity to do some turns to tangle some of the flags in the rig. 
> The lowest flag was now wrapped in the shroud under the lowest spreader. 
> 
> Once at dock in Black Rock, we used the extending boat hook to twist around 
> and grab the lowest flag, using the shroud to keep pressure on it — then 
> slowly pulled downwards. We finally got our hands on it and pulled the rest 
> down, got to the halyard shackle and then untangled the halyard. 
> 
> All back to normal now. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Edd
>>  
>> Did you get your signal flags down after the blow?  Any pictures?  Tell the 
>> world what happened.
>>  
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Re: Stus-List boat names

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

If I were going to use signal flags, it would be on the stern of a racing 
sailboat: Alpha Mike Foxtrot (Look it up)

All the best,

Edd


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City Island, NY 
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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Saw that name on a power boat in Annapolis a couple weeks ago on vacation.  
> Had the signal flags; looked kinda cool.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
> 
> 
> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
> Cc: Joel Aronson  
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names
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> Local Boat:  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot 
> WTF?
> 
> Joel
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Re: Stus-List Signal Flags

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Stu,

No pictures, sorry. One of the loops on a signal flag came apart in the 
overnight blow, dropping a few to the deck and the others streaming off the 
halyard. We loosened the halyard completely in hopes that the breeze and 
movement would work the flags some of the way down, inch by inch. Which it did 
— a little. 

The next day, between Clinton and Black Rock, we had a lull in the breeze and 
took the opportunity to do some turns to tangle some of the flags in the rig. 
The lowest flag was now wrapped in the shroud under the lowest spreader. 

Once at dock in Black Rock, we used the extending boat hook to twist around and 
grab the lowest flag, using the shroud to keep pressure on it — then slowly 
pulled downwards. We finally got our hands on it and pulled the rest down, got 
to the halyard shackle and then untangled the halyard. 

All back to normal now. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 












> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Edd
>  
> Did you get your signal flags down after the blow?  Any pictures?  Tell the 
> world what happened.
>  
> Stu
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> 

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Stus-List Signal Flags

[Stu via CnC-List]

Edd

Did you get your signal flags down after the blow?  Any pictures?  Tell the 
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Re: Stus-List boat names

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Funny:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Alpha+Mike+Foxtrot

Joel

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If I were going to use signal flags, it would be on the stern of a racing
> sailboat: Alpha Mike Foxtrot (Look it up)
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Saw that name on a power boat in Annapolis a couple weeks ago on
> vacation.  Had the signal flags; looked kinda cool.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
>
>
> --
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 9:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List boat names
>
> Local Boat:  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
> WTF?
>
> Joel
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Re: Stus-List boat names

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Saw that name on a power boat in Annapolis a couple weeks ago on vacation.  Had 
the signal flags; looked kinda cool.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL

  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Joel Aronson  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List boat names
   
Local Boat:  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot WTF?
Joel
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
 wrote:



My favorite boat name story comes from a situation I would not recommend for 
anyone.  A fried of ours bought a boat and arranged for a mooring.  When he got 
to the mooring ball, he noticed that the line on the ball was pretty worn, but 
didn't think much of it.  Of course, with the next big wind, the boat broke 
loose with nobody aboard.  She was at one end of a large mooring field and the 
wind pushed the boat away from the field, but toward the seawall at the end of 
the marina.  The owner got a call from the marina, rushed down and found the 
boat aground on a sand bar between two rock outcroppings undamaged.  The boat 
was immediately named "Field Goal". 

Jim ReinardyC&C 30-2 "Firewater"Milwaukee, WI 


Sent from my iPad
On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Michael Cotton via CnC-List 
 wrote:


A follow up on TBD, "Tango Delta Bravo""Mike Cotton 


 On Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:00 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
 wrote:
   

 A fellow here couldn't think of a name, so he called it TDB (to be 
determined).RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
 
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Stus-List MOB - Lifesling

[Alan Bergen via CnC-List]

Practice with it, before you need it. You might discover it would take too long 
doing it the way you described. Or you might think of a better way. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

We have a lifesling, that if the person in the water can get into it, 
he/she can be lifted aboard..the line from the lifesling will run 
through a block attached to the end of the boom and from there to 
another block on the toe rail, then to a winch. The boom can be 
positioned so that the end is out over the water and the MOB can be 
lifted over the lifelines or brought in through either the stbd/port gate. 

Sounds like it would work however I have never tried it and hope not to 
do so in a real situation. 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 



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Re: Stus-List boat names

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Local Boat:  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
WTF?

Joel

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List <
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> My favorite boat name story comes from a situation I would not recommend
> for anyone.  A fried of ours bought a boat and arranged for a mooring.
> When he got to the mooring ball, he noticed that the line on the ball was
> pretty worn, but didn't think much of it.  Of course, with the next big
> wind, the boat broke loose with nobody aboard.  She was at one end of a
> large mooring field and the wind pushed the boat away from the field, but
> toward the seawall at the end of the marina.  The owner got a call from the
> marina, rushed down and found the boat aground on a sand bar between two
> rock outcroppings undamaged.  The boat was immediately named "Field Goal".
>
> Jim Reinardy
> C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
> Milwaukee, WI
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Michael Cotton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> A follow up on TBD, "Tango Delta Bravo""
> Mike Cotton
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:00 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> A fellow here couldn't think of a name, so he called it TDB (to be
> determined).
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
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Re: Stus-List boat names we don't like

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

My boat was named "Sea Swan", I couldn't handle it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd1Byw98JRc

don't ask me about the renaming ceremony, we almost sunk the boat!
Also, seems like great news when your girlfriend is willing to help out but
it seems like whenever she's around we get a lot more "stop and talks"
which equals less work done.

We've removed the red boot stripe and repainted the other two since this
was taken.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Did Black Magic come from Lake Michigan?  I seem to recall a boat in the
> Chi-Mac race years ago with that name.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
>
>
> --
> *From:* Mike Fulmor via CnC-List 
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> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:40 PM
> *Subject:* Stus-List boat names we don't like
>
>   When my new boat came to me the original name "E-Z Rockin'" had just been
> changed to "Black Magic".  Now I like Santana as much as anyone, but I was
> afraid Neptune might not know that tune, and would take it as an affront,
> (bad juju?) so am immediately changing it to "Mahalo" which is Hawaiian for
> Thank You, Gratitude, Respect, etc.  The boat was such a good deal this
> only
> seemed appropriate.
>
> Mike Fulmor
> C&C 37 "Mahalo"
> Newport, Oregon
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Stus-List MOB - Lifesling

[robert via CnC-List]

We have a lifesling, that if the person in the water can get into it, 
he/she can be lifted aboard..the line from the lifesling will run 
through a block attached to the end of the boom and from there to 
another block on the toe rail, then to a winch.The boom can be 
positioned so that the end is out over the water and the MOB can be 
lifted over the lifelines or brought in through either the stbd/port gate.


Sounds like it would work however I have never tried it and hope not to 
do so in a real situation.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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