Re: Stus-List set screws

[sender via CnC-List]

If the coupling is still easily removable, I'd say take it out of the boat
and clean the threads on it thoroughly with brake cleaner, the jack bolts
too, and then re-assemble them with lots of blue Locktite 242. Then torque
them to the correct spec for the type of bolt.

Since the brake cleaning spray makes a lot of flammable vapor, you'd need
to think of another way to remove grease film from the coupler if it has to
stay in the boat.  The new coupling will almost certainly have oil residue
left over from manufacturing when the tap threaded the hole.

When used on clean, clean, clean threads blue Locktite will be stronger
than the wire method.   Don't use red Locktite, it's considered permanent
and you may break the bolt trying to take it off.

Look at the head of the bolt.  if it's plain, it's a grade 2, if it has 3
dashes, it's grade 5. if it has 6 dashes, it's a grade 8.  Go online and
get the maximum "lubricated" torque value for your size bolt and torque
them to the exact value.

Eric


On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 1:30 PM, William Walker via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All,
>   I replaced prop shaft and coupler this spring.  Shaft is seated in
> coupler and two square head, drilled, cup pointed bolts go into dimples in
> shaft..i know that proper technique is to properly safety wire the bolts
> through drilled heads so can't come loose.  But, when seated the drilled
> holes in bolt heads are perpendicular to coupler and there is absolutely no
> room to properly safety wire these..
> I could remove bolts, drill opposite faces of bolt, reinstall and safety
> wire, BUT, I was thinking of getting proper size cup head set screws
> instead and stacking two in the coupler to lock them instead.
> Thoughts..
>
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Re: Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2

[RANDY via CnC-List]

On my 30-1 I've got a jam cleat on the starboard side of the mast for the 
cunningham. It runs down from the cunningham cringle in the sail, through a 
cheek block at the base of the mast, then back up to the jam cleat. So the jam 
cleat prevents the tail from being pulled down. 

I've got two reef points each rigged for single-line slab reefing. The reefing 
lines run from boom port side D-rings up through the reef point clews, down 
through boom starboard-side cheek blocks, then forward to a mast-mounted double 
swivel block below the gooseneck, then up the starboard side through the reef 
point tacks, then down the port side to small cam cleats on the mast. I don't 
currently have reef hooks, so I have to "move" the tack shackle to the reef 
point tack when reefing, and back to the normal tack when unreefing. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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To: "C List"  
Cc: "Doug Welch"  
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:28:48 AM 
Subject: Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2 

I cant seem to figure it out. I have a jam cleat on the starboard side of the 
mast the stops a line from being pulled towards the deck (is this part of it?). 
I'm stumped 


Thanks in advance 

Doug Welch 
Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b 
Frenchman's Bay 

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Re: Stus-List Job and spinnaker sheets

[Dave via CnC-List]

Brad, search on this thread, from May.

RE: Stus-List 33-2 secondary winches and t-track - worth considering?

Dave, 33-2

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Bradley Lumgair  wrote:
> 
> We have 2 sets of jib track on Pulse, a short set inboard and a standard set, 
> both ending abut the same place. The long set lines up nicely with the 
> turning blocks, and the sheets feed nicely to either set of winches. The 
> inboard set wrap  badly when grinding and don't feed well to the turning 
> blocks. Does anyone have a second set and how do you rig? They may work 
> better with a smaller jib?
> Do you use lazyguys when flying your spinnaker? Where do you rig 
> snatchblocks?  Does anyone have a rigging diagram? Dont see anything in my 
> C owners manual, and the gentleman we bought from wasn't a wealth of 
> knowledge.
> Thanks
> Brad
> Pulse
> C 33 MkII
> Lake Huron
> 
> Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~
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Stus-List Job and spinnaker sheets

[Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List]

We have 2 sets of jib track on Pulse, a short set inboard and a standard set, 
both ending abut the same place. The long set lines up nicely with the turning 
blocks, and the sheets feed nicely to either set of winches. The inboard set 
wrap  badly when grinding and don't feed well to the turning blocks. Does 
anyone have a second set and how do you rig? They may work better with a 
smaller jib?
Do you use lazyguys when flying your spinnaker? Where do you rig snatchblocks?  
Does anyone have a rigging diagram? Dont see anything in my C owners manual, 
and the gentleman we bought from wasn't a wealth of knowledge.
Thanks
Brad
Pulse
C 33 MkII
Lake Huron

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

[Dave via CnC-List]

Good thing the brackets are still there.   You know, I will need to look at the 
boat to determine what the valves are for, I really don't know though I would 
assume to isolate the hot water tank.
I hope you got out for a sail today - fantastic conditions a few miles out, 
windstar was flying.
Dave.

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> On Jun 11, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Doug Welch  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dave. I have the hose coming from the ice box and the clamps where the 
> pump was affixed to the side, so I suspect my was plumbed the same way and I 
> just have to replace the pump. 
> 
> I notice your intake set up is the same as mine with a tee, two valves with 
> one running through a filter. What is the purpose of this set up? Do the 
> different valves draw from differnt locations? 
> 
> Thanks
> Doug
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:56 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> All, I have posted some photos - of interest may be the factory location of 
> the Beckson Siphonmate pump, (in windstar, 1985 33-2)  as well as Lee's dual 
> footpump repurpose..
> 
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/06/how-to-drain-ice-box.html
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

Thanks Dave. I have the hose coming from the ice box and the clamps where the 
pump was affixed to the side, so I suspect my was plumbed the same way and I 
just have to replace the pump. 
I notice your intake set up is the same as mine with a tee, two valves with one 
running through a filter. What is the purpose of this set up? Do the different 
valves draw from differnt locations? 
ThanksDoug 

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:56 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 All, I have posted some photos - of interest may be the factory location of 
the Beckson Siphonmate pump, (in windstar, 1985 33-2)  as well as Lee's dual 
footpump repurpose..
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/06/how-to-drain-ice-box.html

Dave

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Re: Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

Thanks. When I looked closer this afternoon is saw the ram's horn :) so I 
captured the cringle on the rams horn and used the in boom lines to bring down 
the clew. A friend suggested the jam cleat might be to secure the baby stay 
adjuster which looked as though it might be correct or perhaps for a cunningham.

Thanks all 

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:31 PM, G Collins  
wrote:
 

 A jam cleat on the mast may be for temporarily parking a halyard if you are at 
the mast pulling it up.  I use one for my main when I'm sailing by myself.  Or 
maybe for a cunningham?My reefing lines come out the underside of the boom, 
down to the mast collar, and back along the deck to clutches near the 
companionway.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11On 2017-06-11 12:28 PM, Doug Welch via CnC-List wrote:

I cant seem to figure it out. I have a jam cleat on the starboard side of the 
mast the stops a line from being pulled towards the deck (is this part of it?). 
I'm stumped

Thanks in advance
Doug WelchCeltic Knot 33-2 c/bFrenchman's Bay
 
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Re: Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2

[G Collins via CnC-List]

A jam cleat on the mast may be for temporarily parking a halyard if you are at 
the mast pulling it up.  I use one for my main when I'm sailing by myself.  Or 
maybe for a cunningham?

My reefing lines come out the underside of the boom, down to the mast collar, 
and back along the deck to clutches near the companionway.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2017-06-11 12:28 PM, Doug Welch via CnC-List wrote:
I cant seem to figure it out. I have a jam cleat on the starboard side of the 
mast the stops a line from being pulled towards the deck (is this part of it?). 
I'm stumped


Thanks in advance

Doug Welch
Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
Frenchman's Bay



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Stus-List set screws

[William Walker via CnC-List]

All,
  I replaced prop shaft and coupler this spring.  Shaft is seated in coupler 
and two square head, drilled, cup pointed bolts go into dimples in shaft..i 
know that proper technique is to properly safety wire the bolts through drilled 
heads so can't come loose.  But, when seated the drilled holes in bolt heads 
are perpendicular to coupler and there is absolutely no room to properly safety 
wire these..
I could remove bolts, drill opposite faces of bolt, reinstall and safety wire, 
BUT, I was thinking of getting proper size cup head set screws instead and 
stacking two in the coupler to lock them instead.
Thoughts..

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Re: Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2

[Dave S via CnC-List]

And from the mast end at the boom, up through the cringle, and back down to 
the boom where it is secured with a bowline.  Loose footed main facilitates 
this.

Dave

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> On Jun 11, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Charlie Normand  wrote:
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Mine each run from mast end of boom, down to a single block at base of mast, 
> to deck organizer, to locking cleat to winch or cleat.  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Charlie
> 
> Shadow Dancer
> 1987 33-2
> Jamestown, RI
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Doug Welch via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I cant seem to figure it out. I have a jam cleat on the starboard side of 
>> the mast the stops a line from being pulled towards the deck (is this part 
>> of it?). I'm stumped
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Doug Welch
>> Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
>> Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2

[Charlie Normand via CnC-List]

Doug,

Mine each run from mast end of boom, down to a single block at base of mast, to 
deck organizer, to locking cleat to winch or cleat.  

Cheers,

Charlie

Shadow Dancer
1987 33-2
Jamestown, RI

On Jun 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Doug Welch via CnC-List  
wrote:

> I cant seem to figure it out. I have a jam cleat on the starboard side of the 
> mast the stops a line from being pulled towards the deck (is this part of 
> it?). I'm stumped
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Doug Welch
> Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
> Frenchman's Bay
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Stus-List How are the reefing lines run on a 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

I cant seem to figure it out. I have a jam cleat on the starboard side of the 
mast the stops a line from being pulled towards the deck (is this part of it?). 
I'm stumped

Thanks in advance
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

All, I have posted some photos - of interest may be the factory location of
the Beckson Siphonmate pump, (in windstar, 1985 33-2)  as well as Lee's
dual footpump repurpose..

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2017/06/how-to-drain-ice-box.html

Dave
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