Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

[sender via CnC-List]

Richard:
I recently bought a C 35 MkII in Vancouver, Fell in love with the boat.

I had a survey done on it. I knew there were some issues with it, I had
what I thought was a very close look at it. As it happens the surveyor
found a lot more problems to my surprise.  so I reluctantly let it go.  I'd
go for another one in a heartbeat.

I've never had a close look at a Mk III, but despite my bitter
disappointment I'd say go for it if the boat resonates with you.  The key
is obviously is to make sure you get a purchase survey done on it.  The
boat I looked at had a 3 year old insurance survey, and the seller
suggested it was "still good".  Ha!

Before you make an offer, check out the availability of marina slips in
your area.

Good luck,
Eric



On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 7:06 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> By the way, if you have need of a delivery captain who owns a C with
> full credentials, I have a good friend who bought my C when I left
> Chicago.  He teaches sailing classes and has done a number of Great Lakes
> deliveries.  I am sure he would be reasonably priced as well.
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> C 37/40+
> Madeira Beach, FL
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/27/17 7:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard Gotthardt 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35 MK III
>
> Doug,
>
> Nice boat, but my search area is limited to Lake Michigan. I don't want to
> even think about shipping a boat.
>
> Thanks for the offer.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:09 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>> I have my 1979 Landfall 38 for sale, if your interested. I moved up to
>> the landfall 39. At least I think it was a move up. :-)
>> Being a 2 boat owner...
>> http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?;
>> units=Feet=3098253=en=broker&=westyacht
>> s&=westyachts&
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> Doug Mountjoy
>> POYC
>> Pegasus
>> Lf38
>> Significant Other
>> LF39
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
>> Date: 7/27/17 13:22 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Richard Gotthardt 
>> Subject: Stus-List 35 MK III
>>
>> I'm looking for a boat and was wondering if there's a "boats for sale"
>> section on cncphotoalbum.com ?
>>
>> Is anyone familiar with this boat, or have any comments based on the
>> scant information that's posted?
>>
>> https://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-mk-iii-sailboat/6235586493.html
>>
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Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

By the way, if you have need of a delivery captain who owns a C with full 
credentials, I have a good friend who bought my C when I left Chicago.  He 
teaches sailing classes and has done a number of Great Lakes deliveries.  I am 
sure he would be reasonably priced as well.
Bruce WhitmoreC 37/40+Madeira Beach, FL


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/27/17  7:58 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Gotthardt  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List 35 MK III 
Doug,
Nice boat, but my search area is limited to Lake Michigan. I don't want to even 
think about shipping a boat.
Thanks for the offer.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:09 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Richard, I have my 1979 Landfall 38 for sale, if your interested. I moved up to 
the landfall 39. At least I think it was a move up. :-) Being a 2 boat 
owner...http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?=Feet=3098253=en=broker&=westyachts&=westyachts;


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 Significant 
Other LF39 
 Original message From: Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/27/17  13:22  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Gotthardt  Subject: 
Stus-List 35 MK III 
I'm looking for a boat and was wondering if there's a "boats for sale" section 
on cncphotoalbum.com ?
Is anyone familiar with this boat, or have any comments based on the scant 
information that's posted?
https://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-mk-iii-sailboat/6235586493.html



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Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Richard — there are a few other lakes connected to Lake Michigan, if I recall 
my geography correctly…   :^)

One of the the largest dealers (if not the largest) of C's throughout much of 
the 70’s and 80’s was Sailboats, Inc; they sold tons of C all over Lake 
Michigan and more on Lake Superior.  You may want to look on Superior, as well; 
not too bad a delivery.  I’ve done it a few times.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Nice boat, but my search area is limited to Lake Michigan. I don't want to 
> even think about shipping a boat.
> 
> Thanks for the offer.

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Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Richard,

 

I am among one of the many 35-III owners on the list here.  I love mine.  It is 
a bit tender, but sails to its rating and wins a lot of races.  It is 
comfortable to cruise with two, but I’ve also raced with 7 on-board in the 
Annapolis-to-Bermuda Race (on “The Office”, another35-III sistership).

 

The boat is a little tender.  You will be one of the first people to reef, but 
it points well and sails like a C should.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
Gotthardt via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 16:23
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Gotthardt 
Subject: Stus-List 35 MK III

 

I'm looking for a boat and was wondering if there's a "boats for sale" section 
on cncphotoalbum.com   ?

 

Is anyone familiar with this boat, or have any comments based on the scant 
information that's posted?

 

https://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-mk-iii-sailboat/6235586493.html

 

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Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

[Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List]

Doug,

Nice boat, but my search area is limited to Lake Michigan. I don't want to
even think about shipping a boat.

Thanks for the offer.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:09 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Richard,
> I have my 1979 Landfall 38 for sale, if your interested. I moved up to the
> landfall 39. At least I think it was a move up. :-)
> Being a 2 boat owner...
> http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.
> jsp?=Feet=3098253=en=broker&=
> westyachts&=westyachts&
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy
> POYC
> Pegasus
> Lf38
> Significant Other
> LF39
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/27/17 13:22 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard Gotthardt 
> Subject: Stus-List 35 MK III
>
> I'm looking for a boat and was wondering if there's a "boats for sale"
> section on cncphotoalbum.com ?
>
> Is anyone familiar with this boat, or have any comments based on the scant
> information that's posted?
>
> https://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-mk-iii-sailboat/6235586493.html
>
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Re: Stus-List 35 MK III

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Richard, I have my 1979 Landfall 38 for sale, if your interested. I moved up to 
the landfall 39. At least I think it was a move up. :-) Being a 2 boat 
owner...http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?=Feet=3098253=en=broker&=westyachts&=westyachts;


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 Significant 
Other LF39 
 Original message From: Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/27/17  13:22  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Gotthardt  Subject: 
Stus-List 35 MK III 
I'm looking for a boat and was wondering if there's a "boats for sale" section 
on cncphotoalbum.com ?
Is anyone familiar with this boat, or have any comments based on the scant 
information that's posted?
https://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-mk-iii-sailboat/6235586493.html


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Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

[james via CnC-List]

I did this project too, Here's a link to my photos. 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/z0mpKkzmP4T12nrn1  One hint I learned, get a 
Sterling "Glass Fab" jigsaw blade to cut the window openings. One blade 
lasted for all four window opening and cut much better than any other 
method I tried. You can get them from Jamestown distributing.


James

Delaney

1976 C 38

Oriental, NC


On 7/27/2017 2:36 PM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List wrote:

Ronald,
I'd love to see pics on that too. That is one of our biggest 
complaints with our 34' not enough airflow through the main cabin.



Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, MD

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:00 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
> wrote:


Can you share your pictures with me?

Neil
1982 C 32

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

*From:* CnC-List > on behalf of RONALD
CASCIATO via CnC-List >
*Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:54:32 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* RONALD CASCIATO
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights
Mark,
Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not
replacing 40 year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old
stuff

15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar
opening ports...with screens included
The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no
brainer go enlarge them a bit .the result is a nice clean
.modern look and functioning ports

Pictures available on request.

Ron C.

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: msmit...@columbus.rr.com 
Sent: 2017-07-26 9:06:12 PM
Subject: Stus-List I need help with portlights


Can somebody point me to a thread discussing replacement of old
style aluminum framed portlights?
I have a 1977 C 30 Mark 1.  The portlights were replaced
previously by the PO and I don't think they were
done correctly, so I don't have a reference to go by to do it
right.  Are there any diagrams showing how the plexiglas
fits into the frame, where caulk should be applied, and how the
gasketing should fit (ie, I need a cross-section drawing of the
window construction so I can do it right).
I'm not trying to be lazy,  but I can't figure out how to search
these archives.


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Re: Stus-List portlight photos

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I replaced Touche's galley port with a Lewmar opening port.  Lets the fumes
from the alcohol stove out.

Pics can be seen here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsb3lSZzZBdzJuV3c

Unfortunately, the pic size is really small.

The only challenge is making sure the cabin exterior and interior pieces
are uniformly spaced so the are no gaps in the frame.  I put dowel spacers
between them.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:52 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ron, I'd like to see those photos too!  Thanks
>
> Richard
>
> s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37; Ohio River, Mile 584.4
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255 <(502)%20584-7255>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of RONALD
> CASCIATO via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:54:32 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* RONALD CASCIATO
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights
>
> Mark,
> Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not replacing
> 40 year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old stuff
>
> 15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar opening
> ports...with screens included
> The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no brainer go
> enlarge them a bit .the result is a nice clean .modern look and
> functioning ports
>
> Pictures available on request.
>
> Ron C.
>
> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
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Stus-List 35 MK III

[Richard Gotthardt via CnC-List]

I'm looking for a boat and was wondering if there's a "boats for sale"
section on cncphotoalbum.com ?

Is anyone familiar with this boat, or have any comments based on the scant
information that's posted?

https://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-mk-iii-sailboat/6235586493.html
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Re: Stus-List portlight photos

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Ron, I'd like to see those photos too!  Thanks

 


Richard

s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37; Ohio River, Mile 584.4


Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 







From: CnC-List  on behalf of RONALD CASCIATO via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:54:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: RONALD CASCIATO
Subject: Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights
 


Mark,
Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not replacing 40 
year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old stuff

15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar opening 
ports...with screens included
The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no brainer go enlarge 
them a bit .the result is a nice clean .modern look and functioning 
ports

Pictures available on request. 

Ron C.

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Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I agree that opening ports are the way to go.  They really help getting 
fresh air down below (do not leave them open while sailing as someone will 
step through).  I made the conversion on my 34, which had the old-style oval 
windows.  I can't make the conversion on my 42, however, because the sides 
of the cabin top are too rounded.  You need a relatively flat surface for 
opening ports.


-Original Message- 
From: RONALD CASCIATO via CnC-List

Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: RONALD CASCIATO
Subject: Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

Mark,
Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not replacing 
40 year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old stuff


15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar opening 
ports...with screens included
The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no brainer go 
enlarge them a bit .the result is a nice clean .modern look and 
functioning ports


Pictures available on request.

Ron C.

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-Original Message-

From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: msmit...@columbus.rr.com
Sent: 2017-07-26 9:06:12 PM
Subject: Stus-List I need help with portlights


Can somebody point me to a thread discussing replacement of old style 
aluminum framed portlights?
I have a 1977 C 30 Mark 1.  The portlights were replaced previously by the 
PO and I don't think they were
done correctly, so I don't have a reference to go by to do it right.  Are 
there any diagrams showing how the plexiglas
fits into the frame, where caulk should be applied, and how the gasketing 
should fit (ie, I need a cross-section drawing of the

window construction so I can do it right).
I'm not trying to be lazy,  but I can't figure out how to search these 
archives.



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Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

Ronald,
I'd love to see pics on that too. That is one of our biggest complaints
with our 34' not enough airflow through the main cabin.


Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, MD

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:00 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Can you share your pictures with me?
>
> Neil
> 1982 C 32
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of RONALD
> CASCIATO via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:54:32 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* RONALD CASCIATO
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights
>
> Mark,
> Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not replacing
> 40 year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old stuff
>
> 15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar opening
> ports...with screens included
> The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no brainer go
> enlarge them a bit .the result is a nice clean .modern look and
> functioning ports
>
> Pictures available on request.
>
> Ron C.
>
> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: msmit...@columbus.rr.com
> Sent: 2017-07-26 9:06:12 PM
> Subject: Stus-List I need help with portlights
>
>
> Can somebody point me to a thread discussing replacement of old style
> aluminum framed portlights?
> I have a 1977 C 30 Mark 1.  The portlights were replaced previously by
> the PO and I don't think they were
> done correctly, so I don't have a reference to go by to do it right.  Are
> there any diagrams showing how the plexiglas
> fits into the frame, where caulk should be applied, and how the gasketing
> should fit (ie, I need a cross-section drawing of the
> window construction so I can do it right).
> I'm not trying to be lazy,  but I can't figure out how to search these
> archives.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Can you share your pictures with me?

Neil
1982 C 32

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

From: CnC-List  on behalf of RONALD CASCIATO via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:54:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: RONALD CASCIATO
Subject: Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

Mark,
Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not replacing 40 
year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old stuff

15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar opening 
ports...with screens included
The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no brainer go enlarge 
them a bit .the result is a nice clean .modern look and functioning 
ports

Pictures available on request.

Ron C.

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

-Original Message-

From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: msmit...@columbus.rr.com
Sent: 2017-07-26 9:06:12 PM
Subject: Stus-List I need help with portlights


Can somebody point me to a thread discussing replacement of old style aluminum 
framed portlights?
I have a 1977 C 30 Mark 1.  The portlights were replaced previously by the PO 
and I don't think they were
done correctly, so I don't have a reference to go by to do it right.  Are there 
any diagrams showing how the plexiglas
fits into the frame, where caulk should be applied, and how the gasketing 
should fit (ie, I need a cross-section drawing of the
window construction so I can do it right).
I'm not trying to be lazy,  but I can't figure out how to search these archives.


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Re: Stus-List I need help with portlights

[RONALD CASCIATO via CnC-List]

Mark,
Your boat is now 40 years old.you might want to consider not replacing 40 
year old parts and methods with the same 40 year old stuff

15 years ago, I replaced my 1977 ..38 ports with new Lewmar opening 
ports...with screens included
The openings on mine were about 1/8" smaller and it was a no brainer go enlarge 
them a bit .the result is a nice clean .modern look and functioning 
ports

Pictures available on request. 

Ron C.

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: msmit...@columbus.rr.com
Sent: 2017-07-26 9:06:12 PM 
Subject: Stus-List I need help with portlights


Can somebody point me to a thread discussing replacement of old style aluminum 
framed portlights?
I have a 1977 C 30 Mark 1.  The portlights were replaced previously by the PO 
and I don't think they were
done correctly, so I don't have a reference to go by to do it right.  Are there 
any diagrams showing how the plexiglas
fits into the frame, where caulk should be applied, and how the gasketing 
should fit (ie, I need a cross-section drawing of the
window construction so I can do it right).
I'm not trying to be lazy,  but I can't figure out how to search these archives.


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Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

[henry evans via CnC-List]

CG capacity on a boat that size would be about 6 or 7 people.  You just have to 
wonder if the owner who put 12 aboard has any semblance of a brain.  Perhaps he 
could find his again spending time behind bars. 
Hank Evans

On Thursday, July 27, 2017, 7:23:32 AM CDT, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Have you guys seen this?

https://wareham-ma.villagesoup.com/p/officials-bystanders-rescue-12-people-after-boat-capsizes-near-cape-cod-canal/1671817

Danny


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Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the attachment to both 
the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send them the profile 
of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates attached to the 
mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my 25 about half of the 
boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the fasteners connecting the plate 
to the spar are under primarily shear loading, not tensile.

 

For this sort of configuration, the additional cross section of the machine 
screw (or cap screw, if you use those) would seem the better choice. If, 
however, you have something like a Boomkicker, or a vang with “generic” 
mounting plates that don’t curve around the spars, rivets might be a better 
choice.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

BTW, both have Garhauer vangs.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:52 PM
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Cc: bwhitmore 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws

 

When I got my rigid vang  from Garhauer, they suggested the course threads.  
The fine threaded screws, they argued are shallower,  and therefore will strip 
or pull out easier.

 

It might be a good idea to call Garhauer for verification.

 

Good luck,

 

Bruce

 

 

 

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 Original message 

From: schiller via CnC-List  > 

Date: 7/26/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Cc: schiller  > 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws 

 

I would add that fine threads would be better than coarse for the relatively 
thin section.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35 Mark 1)
Corsair
Still waiting so see if we can be repaired in Muskegon, Michigan

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> On Jul 26, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List   > wrote:
> 
> Seems to be a difference of opinion.  I've installed several but that doesn't 
> make me an expert.  I've seen aluminum rivets, stainless rivets, machine 
> screws and hex head bolts.
> 
> My opinions on each.
> 
> Aluminum rivets - not strong enough.  Will eventually work loose or break.
> 
> Stainless rivets - my choice.  Very, very low potential to work loose or 
> break.  Coat with TefGel to minimize dissimilar metal corrosion.  Downside - 
> requires expensive rivet tool.
> 
> Machine screws - some potential to work loose.  Once they work loose, bad 
> things can happen.  I don't have a real issue with them as long as they're 
> coated with red thread locker.
> 
> Hex head bolts - some potential to  work loose but, in my opinion, a better 
> choice than machine screws.  Coat with red thread locker.  If you need to 
> remove them, easier than machine screws.  They can also be tightened more 
> than machine screws.
> 
> Bottom line - if you don't have a Big Daddy rivet tool, screws or bolts are 
> fine.  Just use red thread locker and inspect them every now and then.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 boomvang issue

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Hi Bill,

  I would lean towards SS rivets as suggested by Dennis and others. You will 
need to get the
diameter of the hole but also the combined thickness of the fitting and mast. 
Fogh has a good
assortment of the rivets. You can get the compound riveter from Princess Auto.

  On the LO300 with all the reaching not having a vang was likely a significant 
problem. Did
you rig a temporary block or anything?

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1

yes - I was docked a couple of slips away from you at PCYC.



>  
> *From: *"Dennis C. via CnC-List"  

> 
> I'm guessing they were aluminum rivets.  "Every high load" rivet I  
> installed in a mast was stainless coated with TefGel. 
> 
> However, to install larger stainless rivets, you need a BIG rivet tool  
> like a Marson Big Daddy.  They run about $150. 
> 
> If it were me, I'd punch out the old rivets and reinstall with  
> stainless.  Is there a rental shop around where you can rent a Big Daddy? 
> 
> Dennis C. 
> Touche' 35-1 #83 
> Mandeville, LA 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Bill Nickel via CnC-List  
> > wrote: 
> 
>     During my recent "race" in the Lake Ontario 300 (actually the 
>     shorter scotch bonnet race) my hydraulic boom bang broke off at 
>     the base of the mast. The rivets appear to have sheared off. 
>     I have the local boat repair company taking a look, but t I am 
>     curious if anyone has suggestions? 
> 
>     Bill Nickel 
> 
>     "adagio" 
> 
>     1977 C 30 mk 1 
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Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I was caught out in bad weather in our old 16 foot bow rider once. With just 2 
of us, we did OK, but overloaded like that we would have stuffed the bow and 
flooded the boat no doubt. Yikes!

Joe
Coquina

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

That particular area at the wrong time is treacherous even for my 40. It 
happens on a regular basis unfortunately. I hope the eight-year-old is fine.



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 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>
Date: 7/27/17 8:23 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: CnC-List >
Cc: Danny Haughey >
Subject: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal
Have you guys seen this?

https://wareham-ma.villagesoup.com/p/officials-bystanders-rescue-12-people-after-boat-capsizes-near-cape-cod-canal/1671817

Danny


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Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

[David via CnC-List]

That particular area at the wrong time is treacherous even for my 40. It 
happens on a regular basis unfortunately. I hope the eight-year-old is fine.



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 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
Date: 7/27/17 8:23 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: CnC-List 
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

Have you guys seen this?

https://wareham-ma.villagesoup.com/p/officials-bystanders-rescue-12-people-after-boat-capsizes-near-cape-cod-canal/1671817

Danny


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Re: Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Twelve people in a 18 foot bowrider?  Somebody should go to jail!
Gary

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> Have you guys seen this?
>
> https://wareham-ma.villagesoup.com/p/officials-bystanders-
> rescue-12-people-after-boat-capsizes-near-cape-cod-canal/1671817
>
> Danny
>
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Stus-List Overloaded boat overturns near Cape Cod Canal

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Have you guys seen this?

https://wareham-ma.villagesoup.com/p/officials-bystanders-rescue-12-people-after-boat-capsizes-near-cape-cod-canal/1671817

Danny


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