Re: Stus-List 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- A "Movie Teaser"

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Nice video. 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 
 Original message From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/15/17  12:10  (GMT-08:00) To: Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List  Cc: Edd Schillay  Subject: 
Stus-List 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- A "Movie Teaser" 
Listers,
Not to steal too much thunder from Josh Muckley’s planning of the 2018 
Mid-Atlantic Rendezvous, you may want to watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOu2Ciucy0
Yeah — Turn that sound up! And enjoy! 
Details coming soon! 


All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log










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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C Rendezvous

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Ok guys here's a compilation of all the survey responses.

Drive radius map

-
As long as we keep it in the Chesapeake Bay between Annapolis and the
Potomac river we can pretty well assure all 27 respondents can attend
either by car or boat.  27

Boat Radius Map

-
It looks like any Chesapeake bay location between Annapolis and Solomons
will maximize the available attendees by boat.  Somewhere close to 13 boats!


Here are some formatted screen shots
map screen shots
 with
proposed range limits

I'll put together a list of locations, your suggestions will be included.
It still sounds like the 2018 Annapolis Fall boat show is capturing the
most attention.  The problem is that dockage and moorings are limited
during an event of that magnitude.  I'm open to your thoughts and solutions.


Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Josh Muckley  wrote:

> Ok guys I got 23 responses for the survey.  It looks like most of the
> people who are going to respond already have.  I figure I'll give one last
> day for any stragglers to get the word and take the survey.
>
> *Here's my push* - If anyone else is interested in attending a 2018
> Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous, please complete the survey at the link below.
> Your response is being used to evaluate the level of interest and the best
> compromise of location.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MFT2GLY
>
> So far I'm getting a lot of interest in Annapolis and Solomons and some
> interest in doing it in conjunction with the sailboat show.
>
>
> Thanks everybody,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2017 11:57 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Having just completed the 6 hour drive home from the 2017 Northeast C&C
> Rendezvous in Greenport, NY, I'm pumped about the poss

Re: Stus-List Cradle measurments

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

When we made mine, we hung the boat in a travelift for a couple days while the 
fabricator built the cradle around the boat.

From: T power via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: T power 
Subject: Stus-List Cradle measurments

Hello,

I have a C&C 30 that will require a cradle in a couple of weeks. I have made 
the base and the keel rest. I'm struggling with the length of the stands and 
wondering if I could get some insight.

My cradle is 14' long by 77" wide, I have a 10" wide "C" channel keel bed that 
is 62 1/2" long. The keel bed is 69" from the front of the cradle and 37" from 
the rear of the cradle. I would like to put 8 stands plus a bow roller. 

Here is what I'm thinking for the stands:

front two will be 1' 8" from center line 
Front aft two will be 2'7" from center line, in line with the front of the keel 
plate
Rear two will be 3'2" from center line, in line with the rear of the keel plate
Last two will be 2'4" from center line.

I would appreciate any help, this will be a first for me having my boat craned 
onto a cradle and I'm queasy just thinking about it.

Cheers

Tom Power
Invictus
C&C 30 MK1 (Hull 501)
Fredericton, NB



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Re: Stus-List teak cubbyhole trim - removing teak frames

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Not sure what you mean by cubby hole trim.

I took a lot of trim pieces home to varnish.

On the early C&C's there is a secret to removing the frames around the
storages with the slides. Three of the 4 pieces are "C" moulding.  The top
piece has had one leg cut off so it's an "L" moulding.  The top piece is
the "key" piece.  It must be removed first.  Small brads are in the slide
grooves,  Remove with needle nose pliers.  Pull the piece straight out.
After removing brads from the sides, they will "fold" inwards.  The bottom
lifts up.

The frames around all the cabinet doors are fastened from behind with
square drive wood screws.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Sep 15, 2017 6:29 PM, "Bev Parslow via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Is there an easy way to get them out? They need varnishing and I would
prefer to varnish them at home. Stuck in with the gee stuff. Dental floss?

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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Call Guido. These things are pretty much guaranteed forever. Used to have 
“Guaranteed to ” etched right on the block. Wouldn’t surprise me if they 
gave you a new one.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

 

Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while approaching 
Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a bang. That metal on 
metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The 60-13UB block blew out. Body 
is there but sheave and all associated bearings and what not gone. Gunna buy a 
new one. 

J

Hideaway



Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer except 
the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling line. On 
my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is Garhauer.

 

I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our good 
comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer service, and 
low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting value when folks 
switch away from Harken and Lewmar.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
To: C&C List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

 

+1 on Garhauer. 

I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give them 
all the kudos, they would raise the prices.

 

Marek 

 

 

 Original message 

From: John Irvin via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00) 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Cc: John Irvin mailto:skis...@outlook.com> > 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars 

 

Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C&C 27-III.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball bearing 
jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've found this 
not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings, you can talk 
to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They prefer to sell the 
plastic ones because many customers have had trouble installing or removing the 
cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He said there's not a significant 
performance difference between ball bearing and plastic, but conceded that the 
ball bearings were slightly better.  I ordered the ball bearing version and am 
very happy with them.  If your are careful installing them, they are easy to 
install and work very well.  Garhauer makes bullet proof stuff at a very 
reasonable price.  I have no affiliation with Garhauer Marine or any of their 
employees.  I'm just a happy customer that has purchased many products from 
them. 

 

Gary

S/V Kaylarah

'90 C&C 37+

East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~

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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Sucks... Anything to save a few boat bucks.

Josh

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 7:00 PM JP Mail via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Called but I didn't purchase the blocks, they came with the boat. No
> worries.
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Did you call Guido?  No warranty coverage?
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 15, 2017 12:22 PM, "JP Mail via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while
>> approaching Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a
>> bang. That metal on metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The
>> 60-13UB block blew out. Body is there but sheave and all associated
>> bearings and what not gone. Gunna buy a new one.
>> J
>> Hideaway
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer
>> except the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling
>> line. On my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is
>> Garhauer.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our
>> good comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer
>> service, and low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting
>> value when folks switch away from Harken and Lewmar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
>>
>> la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Marek Dziedzic via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
>> *To:* C&C List 
>> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 on Garhauer.
>>
>> I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give
>> them all the kudos, they would raise the prices.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>>
>> From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
>>
>> Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00)
>>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> Cc: John Irvin 
>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>>
>>
>>
>> Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C&C
>> 27-III.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball
>> bearing jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've
>> found this not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings,
>> you can talk to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They
>> prefer to sell the plastic ones because many customers have had trouble
>> installing or removing the cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He
>> said there's not a significant performance difference between ball bearing
>> and plastic, but conceded that the ball bearings were slightly better.  I
>> ordered the ball bearing version and am very happy with them.  If your are
>> careful installing them, they are easy to install and work very well.
>> Garhauer makes bullet proof stuff at a very reasonable price.  I have no
>> affiliation with Garhauer Marine or any of their employees.  I'm just a
>> happy customer that has purchased many products from them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> S/V Kaylarah
>>
>> '90 C&C 37+
>>
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
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Re: Stus-List Southern Nova Scotia

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would like to thank all of you who provided advice for the trip. We used a 
lot of it. We managed to visit Chester, Mahone Bay, and even Shelburne.

You guys have a great area for sailing. We like it so much that we even thought 
about buying a property there to retire.

Thanks again

Marek Dziedzic
Ottawa, ON
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Stus-List teak cubbyhole trim

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

Is there an easy way to get them out? They need varnishing and I would prefer 
to varnish them at home. Stuck in with the gee stuff. Dental floss?___

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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Called but I didn't purchase the blocks, they came with the boat. No worries. 
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you call Guido?  No warranty coverage?
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2017 12:22 PM, "JP Mail via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while approaching 
>> Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a bang. That metal 
>> on metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The 60-13UB block blew out. 
>> Body is there but sheave and all associated bearings and what not gone. 
>> Gunna buy a new one. 
>> J
>> Hideaway
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer 
>>> except the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling 
>>> line. On my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is 
>>> Garhauer.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our 
>>> good comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer 
>>> service, and low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting 
>>> value when folks switch away from Harken and Lewmar.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rick Brass
>>> 
>>> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
>>> 
>>> la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
>>> 
>>> Washington, NC
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
>>> Dziedzic via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
>>> To: C&C List 
>>> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> +1 on Garhauer.
>>> 
>>> I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give 
>>> them all the kudos, they would raise the prices.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Marek 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> 
>>> From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
>>> 
>>> Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00)
>>> 
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> 
>>> Cc: John Irvin 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C&C 
>>> 27-III.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball 
>>> bearing jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've 
>>> found this not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings, 
>>> you can talk to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They 
>>> prefer to sell the plastic ones because many customers have had trouble 
>>> installing or removing the cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He 
>>> said there's not a significant performance difference between ball bearing 
>>> and plastic, but conceded that the ball bearings were slightly better.  I 
>>> ordered the ball bearing version and am very happy with them.  If your are 
>>> careful installing them, they are easy to install and work very well.  
>>> Garhauer makes bullet proof stuff at a very reasonable price.  I have no 
>>> affiliation with Garhauer Marine or any of their employees.  I'm just a 
>>> happy customer that has purchased many products from them.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> S/V Kaylarah
>>> 
>>> '90 C&C 37+
>>> 
>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>> 
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> 
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>>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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>>> 
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Stus-List Cradle measurments

[T power via CnC-List]

Hello,

I have a C&C 30 that will require a cradle in a couple of weeks. I have made 
the base and the keel rest. I'm struggling with the length of the stands and 
wondering if I could get some insight.

My cradle is 14' long by 77" wide, I have a 10" wide "C" channel keel bed that 
is 62 1/2" long. The keel bed is 69" from the front of the cradle and 37" from 
the rear of the cradle. I would like to put 8 stands plus a bow roller.

Here is what I'm thinking for the stands:

front two will be 1' 8" from center line
Front aft two will be 2'7" from center line, in line with the front of the keel 
plate
Rear two will be 3'2" from center line, in line with the rear of the keel plate
Last two will be 2'4" from center line.

I would appreciate any help, this will be a first for me having my boat craned 
onto a cradle and I'm queasy just thinking about it.

Cheers

Tom Power
Invictus
C&C 30 MK1 (Hull 501)
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Replacement

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I used a small electric rotary pump which the boatyard mechanic uses. Five
gallons at a time, and the boatyard crane which is an old diesel unit will
take anything..

 

Gary

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:12 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert 
Subject: Stus-List Fuel Tank Replacement

 

Bill:

Just curioushow did you remove the diesel from the old tank?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-09-14 1:43 PM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:

Moving ahead on the project. Old tank out.  New ordered and delivered by
Amazon in 2 days..Moeller 19 gallon, 16 x 12 x 26.  90 degree hose and
straight hose connector as I think Dennis mentioned.
Two questions:
First, if I leave at least 2 inches of the 1.5 inch fuel line inlet
connector, can I trim its height if I need to?  It is going to be really
tight to get the 90 degree elbow on.  need to keep the plastic "sawdust" out
of tank somehow.
Second, the old aluminum tank was bonded to the deck filler and the to the
engine block.  Since this is plastic tank should I skip tank and bond deck
filler directly to engine?  What about  the sending unit.
Thanks
Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Pentwater, Michigan

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Re: Stus-List 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- A "Movie Teaser"

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

No, no, Edd it is I who was stealing the thunder from you!  You have
videos, I can't even compete!

That being said, selection of a date for the Mid-Atlantic Rendezvous will
be selected so as to not conflict with the NE rendezvous.  I certainly
don't want people to have to pick and choose.

Still looking for last minute takers on the survey!

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 15, 2017 3:11 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Not to steal too much thunder from Josh Muckley’s planning of the 2018
> Mid-Atlantic Rendezvous, you may want to watch this:
>
> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOu2Ciucy0
> *
>
> Yeah — Turn that sound up! And enjoy!
>
> Details coming soon!
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
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Stus-List 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- A "Movie Teaser"

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Not to steal too much thunder from Josh Muckley’s planning of the 2018 
Mid-Atlantic Rendezvous, you may want to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOu2Ciucy0

Yeah — Turn that sound up! And enjoy! 

Details coming soon! 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C Rendezvous

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Ok guys I got 23 responses for the survey.  It looks like most of the
people who are going to respond already have.  I figure I'll give one last
day for any stragglers to get the word and take the survey.

*Here's my push* - If anyone else is interested in attending a 2018
Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous, please complete the survey at the link below.
Your response is being used to evaluate the level of interest and the best
compromise of location.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MFT2GLY

So far I'm getting a lot of interest in Annapolis and Solomons and some
interest in doing it in conjunction with the sailboat show.


Thanks everybody,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD





On Sep 13, 2017 11:57 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Having just completed the 6 hour drive home from the 2017 Northeast C&C
Rendezvous in Greenport, NY, I'm pumped about the possibility of meeting
and greeting other C&C owners next year.  Edd is already taking about
having the 2018 Northeast C&C Rendezvous in Port Jefferson, NY.  I strongly
urge everyone to consider attending!  It was great to finally put faces to
names/email addressed.  It was cool to see each other's boats and the
innovative things each of us have done.  We would have loved to have met
more people and seen more boats.  We would have loved to have brought Sea
Hawk but the 6 hour drive would have been more like a 6 day sail and then 6
days back again!

In that same spirit I'm considering organizing a 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C
Rendezvous.  As the organizer I want to reinforce that this isn't MY
rendezvous, it is OUR rendezvous.  I want as many people to come together
by boat, car, plane, or train to share the experience.  Owners past,
present, and future are all welcome.  I could probably use help in many
ways and would be happy to take input, feedback and suggestions.  In its
incipient stage I'm trying to narrow down level of interest and a location
that will attract the most people.  After that we can narrow down a
date/time.  And then after that we can iron out to the finer points.  To
start with here is a survey.  I'll take the survey results and develop a
location.  If you are at all interested in attending a 2018 Mid-Atlantic
C&C Rendezvous please take a moment to answer these few questions.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MFT2GLY


Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons,MD

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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Did you call Guido?  No warranty coverage?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 15, 2017 12:22 PM, "JP Mail via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while
> approaching Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a
> bang. That metal on metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The
> 60-13UB block blew out. Body is there but sheave and all associated
> bearings and what not gone. Gunna buy a new one.
> J
> Hideaway
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer
> except the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling
> line. On my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is
> Garhauer.
>
>
>
> I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our
> good comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer
> service, and low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting
> value when folks switch away from Harken and Lewmar.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
>
> la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Marek Dziedzic via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
> *To:* C&C List 
> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>
>
>
> +1 on Garhauer.
>
> I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give
> them all the kudos, they would raise the prices.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
>
> Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Cc: John Irvin 
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>
>
>
> Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C&C
> 27-III.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball
> bearing jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've
> found this not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings,
> you can talk to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They
> prefer to sell the plastic ones because many customers have had trouble
> installing or removing the cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He
> said there's not a significant performance difference between ball bearing
> and plastic, but conceded that the ball bearings were slightly better.  I
> ordered the ball bearing version and am very happy with them.  If your are
> careful installing them, they are easy to install and work very well.
> Garhauer makes bullet proof stuff at a very reasonable price.  I have no
> affiliation with Garhauer Marine or any of their employees.  I'm just a
> happy customer that has purchased many products from them.
>
>
>
> Gary
>
> S/V Kaylarah
>
> '90 C&C 37+
>
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while approaching 
Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a bang. That metal on 
metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The 60-13UB block blew out. Body 
is there but sheave and all associated bearings and what not gone. Gunna buy a 
new one. 
J
Hideaway


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer except 
> the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling line. On 
> my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is Garhauer.
>  
> I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our good 
> comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer service, and 
> low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting value when folks 
> switch away from Harken and Lewmar.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
> la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>  
> +1 on Garhauer.
> I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give them 
> all the kudos, they would raise the prices.
>  
> Marek 
>  
>  
>  Original message 
> From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
> Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: John Irvin 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>  
> Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C&C 
> 27-III.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball bearing 
> jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've found this 
> not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings, you can talk 
> to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They prefer to sell the 
> plastic ones because many customers have had trouble installing or removing 
> the cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He said there's not a 
> significant performance difference between ball bearing and plastic, but 
> conceded that the ball bearings were slightly better.  I ordered the ball 
> bearing version and am very happy with them.  If your are careful installing 
> them, they are easy to install and work very well.  Garhauer makes bullet 
> proof stuff at a very reasonable price.  I have no affiliation with Garhauer 
> Marine or any of their employees.  I'm just a happy customer that has 
> purchased many products from them.
>  
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Replacement

[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

I used the brass Jabsco hand pump used for oil changes, exchanging the
small tube for the dipstick with a piece of tubing that fit the input of
the pump. Took about 20 minutes to empty 12 gallons.

Ed Levert
C&C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans, La.

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:11 AM, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Bill:
>
> Just curioushow did you remove the diesel from the old tank?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2017-09-14 1:43 PM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Moving ahead on the project. Old tank out.  New ordered and delivered by
> Amazon in 2 days..Moeller 19 gallon, 16 x 12 x 26.  90 degree hose and
> straight hose connector as I think Dennis mentioned.
> Two questions:
> First, if I leave at least 2 inches of the 1.5 inch fuel line inlet
> connector, can I trim its height if I need to?  It is going to be really
> tight to get the 90 degree elbow on.  need to keep the plastic "sawdust"
> out of tank somehow.
> Second, the old aluminum tank was bonded to the deck filler and the to the
> engine block.  Since this is plastic tank should I skip tank and bond deck
> filler directly to engine?  What about  the sending unit.
> Thanks
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Pentwater, Michigan
>
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Stus-List Fuel Tank Replacement

[robert via CnC-List]

Bill:

Just curioushow did you remove the diesel from the old tank?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-09-14 1:43 PM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:


Moving ahead on the project. Old tank out.  New ordered and delivered 
by Amazon in 2 days..Moeller 19 gallon, 16 x 12 x 26.  90 degree hose 
and straight hose connector as I think Dennis mentioned.

Two questions:
First, if I leave at least 2 inches of the 1.5 inch fuel line inlet 
connector, can I trim its height if I need to?  It is going to be 
really tight to get the 90 degree elbow on.  need to keep the plastic 
"sawdust" out of tank somehow.
Second, the old aluminum tank was bonded to the deck filler and the to 
the engine block.  Since this is plastic tank should I skip tank and 
bond deck filler directly to engine?  What about the sending unit.

Thanks
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Michigan

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Re: Stus-List Depth Sounder

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

The wind transducer. This is a low budget project to get his boat more fun for 
him to use.

Get Outlook for iOS

From: CnC-List  on behalf of schiller via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:27:34 PM
To: Steven A. Demore; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller
Subject: Re: Stus-List Depth Sounder

I'm confused.  Does your friend need the transducer (wind vane and cups) or the 
display.  The transducer is available from several sources (Defender, for one). 
 If you need the display, I have one.  Let me know.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

On 9/14/2017 6:11 PM, Steven A. Demore wrote:
I have the ST60 wind instruments on top of my mast.  I reached out to Raymarine 
and was told to throw them away, as you can’t buy an analog display them 
anymore, and they rarely work now.  I’d love to make it work, but know nothing 
about it.

Steve

SV Doin’ It Right
1973 C&C 30 MK1
Pasadena, MD

From: schiller [mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Depth Sounder

Paul,

No.  The transducer is at the bottom of Lake Michigan.  It went when the mast 
broke.  You can still get new transducers and cables.  I think it is $469 for 
the transducer and cable.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan
On 9/14/2017 8:36 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List wrote:
Neil,

Did you keep the wind transducer? I have a friend who needs one from an ST60 
(with cable if possible) …

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:33 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Depth Sounder

Alan,

I have an ST60 display unit available from the old Redwing 35 (as well as Speed 
and Wind).  I didn't try to remove any transducers.  The new boat came with 
i50/i60 instruments.

Make me an offer.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan
On 9/13/2017 10:41 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote:
I'm looking for a new (used) display.  I tried a new transducer, and that 
didn't cure the problem.  I also checked all wiring from the transducer to the 
display.
Alan

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Alan,

What exactly are you looking for? The thru-hull depth sounder? Display? 
Something else?

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue 
Refit

On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:27 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Does anyone have a Depth sounder they want to sell or give away? I'm looking 
for a Raymarine
ST50, ST60 or ST60+

--
Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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