Re: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

At the airline I work for we wash turbine  engines in basicly the same fashion. 
A turbo is a very simple version of a turbine engine. 


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


 Original message From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/19/18  11:12  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman  Subject: Stus-List 
Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo 




I just read this in a Yanmar Manual:

 

6) Washing the Turbocharger Blower

When engine speed seems sluggish or the
exhaust color

poor, the blades of the turbocharger blower
may be dirty.

Wash the blower in the following manner.

1. Have ready blower wash (liquid detergent),
fresh

water, and a small pitcher.

Blower Wash (4L)

Parts Code:974500-00400

2. Put the clutch in neutral and run the
engine at high

speed (2500∼3000rpm).

3. Slowly pour approximately 50cc of blower
wash into

the turbocharger air intake over a period of
about 10

seconds.

4. After about 3 minutes, pour in
approximately 50cc of

fresh water in the same manner over a period
of about

10 seconds.

5. After operating the engine for about 10
minutes,

check the boost pressure and power output.

If there is no improvement after washing the
blower,

repeat the washing process several times.

If there is still no improvement consult your
local Yanmar

dealer.

 

This sounds kind of crazy, spraying soapy water and then water
into your intake – 

Has anyone ever done this or know of anyone who has?

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA



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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I put reflective tape on the main pully to read engine RPM.  I put it on
the prop shaft to verify transmission ratio and prop speed.  I put it on
the alternator to compare alternator output to rpm.

Josh



On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 8:11 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
wrote:

> So when you use a laser/optical tach to check the boat's tachometer, where
> do you put your reflective mark?  On the prop shaft?  The main pulley?
>
> Wade
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser
>> tach from the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't
>> make it better.  Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the
>> alternator either.  It is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.
>>
>> AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
>> ist  wrote:
>>
>>> The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine
>>> reads 4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.
>>>
>>> Tom Buscaglia
>>> S/V Alera
>>> 1990 C 37+/40
>>> Vashon WA
>>> P 206.463.9200
>>> C 305.409.3660
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
>>> From: Josh Muckley 
>>> To: "C List" 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot"
>>> for
>>>
>>> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>>>
>>> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>>>
>>> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>>>
>>> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>>>
>>> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>>>
>>> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after
>>> a
>>>
>>> long motor.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>>>
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Wade,
>>>
>>>
>>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>>>
>>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>>>
>>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Whitmore
>>>
>>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>>>
>>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>>
>>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>>>
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>
>>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>>>
>>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>>>
>>> accumulation?
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>>>
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>>>
>>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>>>
>>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>>
>>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Stus-List Refridge fan

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

Just brought  a camco fan for about 10 bucks. Runs over  a month on alkaline D 
cells. Also has an activated carbon filter. Could be run with rechargeable 
cells I believe. Works great. Amazon. 
Dan SheerPegathy LF 38Rock Creek off the Patapsco

  
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Re: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

If somebody tried to sell me turbo wash, I would have thought they were pulling 
my leg.

 

When I was an aviator we used to send the young lieutenants to supply to pick 
up some “jet wash” or a left-handed crescent wrench.

 

Thankfully, I don’t have a turbo either (except in my Suburban), otherwise I’d 
be stocking up on turbo wash…

 

Jake

 

 

Jake Brodersen

C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA



 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 14:45
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

 

At work I have two 5.5MW electrical generators that are made by Warsilla-Sacm.  
The generator is driven on both ends of by a mirror image 16 cylinder twin 
turbo diesel engine.  So each generator has 4 turbos in total.  There is a wash 
pot which has a capacity of 1 qt.  You fill the pot with DI water and then push 
a button to port intake vacuum to the pot.  Engine vacuum sucks the water out 
to clean the turbo.  1 pot, 1 turbo.  I can't speak for detergents, but washing 
turbos is certainly a thing. 

 

There are some crazy YouTube videos of people using a garden hose in the air 
intake of their naturally aspirated cars.  Seems crazy or stupid or dangerous 
or all three.

 

https://youtu.be/eZDISp2pdSo

 

I'm kinda glad I don't have a turbo. 

 

 

Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD 

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Main pulley.

Dennis C.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Wade Glew via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So when you use a laser/optical tach to check the boat's tachometer, where
> do you put your reflective mark?  On the prop shaft?  The main pulley?
>
> Wade
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser
>> tach from the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't
>> make it better.  Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the
>> alternator either.  It is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.
>>
>> AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
>> ist  wrote:
>>
>>> The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine
>>> reads 4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.
>>>
>>> Tom Buscaglia
>>> S/V Alera
>>> 1990 C 37+/40
>>> Vashon WA
>>> P 206.463.9200
>>> C 305.409.3660
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
>>> From: Josh Muckley 
>>> To: "C List" 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs
>>> /view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot"
>>> for
>>>
>>> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>>>
>>> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>>>
>>> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>>>
>>> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>>>
>>> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>>>
>>> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after
>>> a
>>>
>>> long motor.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>>>
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Wade,
>>>
>>>
>>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>>>
>>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>>>
>>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Whitmore
>>>
>>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>>>
>>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>>
>>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>>>
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>
>>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>>>
>>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>>>
>>> accumulation?
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>>>
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>>>
>>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>>>
>>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>>
>>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

So when you use a laser/optical tach to check the boat's tachometer, where
do you put your reflective mark?  On the prop shaft?  The main pulley?

Wade

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser tach
> from the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't make
> it better.  Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the
> alternator either.  It is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.
>
> AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
> ist  wrote:
>
>> The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine
>> reads 4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.
>>
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> S/V Alera
>> 1990 C 37+/40
>> Vashon WA
>> P 206.463.9200
>> C 305.409.3660
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
>> From: Josh Muckley 
>> To: "C List" 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/
>> view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
>>
>> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>>
>> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>>
>> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>>
>> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>>
>> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>>
>> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
>>
>> long motor.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>>
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Wade,
>>
>>
>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>>
>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>>
>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>>
>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>>
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>>
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>>
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>>
>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>>
>> accumulation?
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>>
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>>
>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>>
>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>
>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
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Stus-List Fire extinguishers

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Well the recent Kidde recall got me to checking my fire extinguishers. I have 6 
onboard. One was dated 1977 and another 1984.  I’m willing to donate them to 
anyone that wants them, you pay the shipping. LOL

Mike 
Persuasion 
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have a Universal 25XPB but tachometers are pretty much the same across
manufacturers.  I checked mine with a cheap optical tachometer.  I used an
adjustment screw on the back to get it fairly accurate.

Every now and then I check it by running the engine up to max rpm.  The
engine has a governor so there's little risk of damage.  The max rpm for my
25XPB is 2900-3000.  So when I max it out and the tach says 2900-3000 rpm,
I know it's reading OK.

Digital optical tachs are cheap.  If you have a Harbor Freight close by,
you can probably pick on up for about $35.  Cheaper on Amazon.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:28 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Mine is way off! PO said Oh I just deal with it. He had a list in Nav.
> table what to run/read Tach at and what RPM engine was actually doing.
>
>  I would love to have things match up rather than check the sheet but was
> told it was not possible?
>
>
>
> John
>
> S/V Halcyon /) ~
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Coolant change in 2QM15

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The yanmar engines have an engine block drain.  Most of the coolant should
come out by gravity.  If you have a fresh water heater that is heated by
the engine you may find it convenient to disconnect or tap one of the lines
running to it.  You have glycol coolant which "should" be captured and
disposed of properly - Even the "eco" friendly propylene glycol.

Once the majority of the coolant is out I would flush it with a fresh water
supply "garden hose".  They also make flush chemical additive which I would
use after the freshwater flush.  Then flush again with clean.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 6:27 PM Tortuga via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have a Yanmar 2QM15 with a Sen-Dure heat exchanger. I'd like to change
> the coolant. Can I pump out the old?
>
> Thanks
>
> Derek Kennedy
> SV Tortuga
> C mk1, #553
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
>
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Re: Stus-List Bilge blower

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Again Me too!  The 4”? dryer vent type of hose is crushed  closed, and there is 
NO WAY for me to get to it. Is there also a blower somewhere as well ? switch ? 
where?

 The  new Diesel tank and Batteries in Lazzarett of my 37 make it really hard 
to access, any ideas on this one?

Will grab a pic next weekend of this challenge, as there is also a thruhull 
there is completely immobile and now green! Both can be seen thru the  8” 
circular access port



Thanks

John

S/V Halcyon




From: CnC-List  on behalf of Persuasion37 via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:39:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Persuasion37
Subject: Stus-List Bilge blower

Well I’m in the process of replacing the bilge blower on Persuasion.  Does 
anyone know  what the original blower is.  And where can I find a guy small 
enough to crawl all the way to the back.  More importantly why am I seeing 
voltage (<1) when the switch is off.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Mine is way off! PO said Oh I just deal with it. He had a list in Nav. table 
what to run/read Tach at and what RPM engine was actually doing.
 I would love to have things match up rather than check the sheet but was told 
it was not possible?

John
S/V Halcyon /) ~


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Josh Muckley via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 4:25:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser tach from 
the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't make it better. 
 Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the alternator either.  It 
is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.

AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
ist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine reads 
4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, 
cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
From: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
To: "C List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
Message-ID:
   
mailto:ca+zacrbufau5rf1btanz7lf+ftbz4t03h-rhh-wxch4msm2...@mail.gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
wrote:

Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
long motor.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hello Wade,

Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


--
*From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Wade Glew mailto:wadeg...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

Hi Josh,
Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
accumulation?
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.

Josh

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley 
mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.

Josh


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 I have a Yanmar 2QM15 with a Sen-Dure heat exchanger. I'd like to change
the coolant. Can I pump out the old?

Thanks

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SV Tortuga
C mk1, #553
Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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anyone know  what the original blower is.  And where can I find a guy small 
enough to crawl all the way to the back.  More importantly why am I seeing 
voltage (<1) when the switch is off.

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PERSUASION
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

All boats are lifted by a rising tide!

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 4:43 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Having followed this C list for a few months now, I'm floored by how
> much shi##*! you guys know!!
>
> thanks for all your comments/suggestions/links etc.  It's really helpful!
>
> Wade
> Oh Boy C 33 MK II
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser
>> tach from the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't
>> make it better.  Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the
>> alternator either.  It is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.
>>
>> AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
>> ist  wrote:
>>
>>> The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine
>>> reads 4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.
>>>
>>> Tom Buscaglia
>>> S/V Alera
>>> 1990 C 37+/40
>>> Vashon WA
>>> P 206.463.9200
>>> C 305.409.3660
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
>>> From: Josh Muckley 
>>> To: "C List" 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot"
>>> for
>>>
>>> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>>>
>>> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>>>
>>> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>>>
>>> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>>>
>>> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>>>
>>> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after
>>> a
>>>
>>> long motor.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>>>
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Wade,
>>>
>>>
>>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>>>
>>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>>>
>>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Whitmore
>>>
>>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>>>
>>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>>
>>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>>>
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>
>>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>>>
>>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>>>
>>> accumulation?
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>>>
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>>>
>>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>>>
>>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>>
>>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

Having followed this C list for a few months now, I'm floored by how much
shi##*! you guys know!!

thanks for all your comments/suggestions/links etc.  It's really helpful!

Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MK II

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser tach
> from the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't make
> it better.  Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the
> alternator either.  It is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.
>
> AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
> ist  wrote:
>
>> The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine
>> reads 4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.
>>
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> S/V Alera
>> 1990 C 37+/40
>> Vashon WA
>> P 206.463.9200
>> C 305.409.3660
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
>> From: Josh Muckley 
>> To: "C List" 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/
>> view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
>>
>> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>>
>> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>>
>> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>>
>> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>>
>> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>>
>> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
>>
>> long motor.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>>
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Wade,
>>
>>
>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>>
>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>>
>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>>
>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>>
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>>
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>>
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>>
>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>>
>> accumulation?
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>>
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>>
>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>>
>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>
>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
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>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I know for a fact that mine runs about 200 rpm low.  I bought a laser tach
from the link below.  I take that into account.  Replacement doesn't make
it better.  Mine has been low since new.  It doesn't come off the
alternator either.  It is a stock unit that had a pickup off the flywheel.

AGPtek® Professional Digital Laser Photo Tachometer Non Contact RPM Tach
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-kpuBbJVJTJCK

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:09 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-L
ist  wrote:

> The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine
> reads 4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Josh
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
>
> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>
> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>
> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>
> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>
> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>
> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
>
> long motor.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Wade
>
> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Wade,
>
>
> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>
> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>
> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>
> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>
> accumulation?
>
> Wade
>
> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>
> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>
> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>
>
> Josh
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>
>
> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>
> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
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>
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Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

The accuracy of original tachs can be problematic.  I’m pretty sure mine reads 
4-500 rpm low.  Near the top of the “ replace soon” list.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:14 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:06 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/view?usp=drivesdk
> 
> Josh
> 
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
>> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
>> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
>> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
>> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
>> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
>> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
>> long motor.
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> Wade
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Wade,
>>> 
>>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>> 
>>> Bruce Whitmore
>>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>> 
>>> Hi Josh,
>>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>>> accumulation?
>>> Wade
>>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>> 
>>> Josh
>>> 
 On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>> 
>>> Josh
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

At work I have two 5.5MW electrical generators that are made by
Warsilla-Sacm.  The generator is driven on both ends of by a mirror image
16 cylinder twin turbo diesel engine.  So each generator has 4 turbos in
total.  There is a wash pot which has a capacity of 1 qt.  You fill the pot
with DI water and then push a button to port intake vacuum to the pot.
Engine vacuum sucks the water out to clean the turbo.  1 pot, 1 turbo.  I
can't speak for detergents, but washing turbos is certainly a thing.

There are some crazy YouTube videos of people using a garden hose in the
air intake of their naturally aspirated cars.  Seems crazy or stupid or
dangerous or all three.

https://youtu.be/eZDISp2pdSo

I'm kinda glad I don't have a turbo.


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 2:14 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just read this in a Yanmar Manual:
>
>
>
> *6) Washing the Turbocharger Blower*
>
> When engine speed seems sluggish or the exhaust color
>
> poor, the blades of the turbocharger blower may be dirty.
>
> Wash the blower in the following manner.
>
> 1. Have ready blower wash (liquid detergent), fresh
>
> water, and a small pitcher.
>
> *Blower Wash (4L)*
>
> *Parts Code:974500-00400*
>
> 2. Put the clutch in neutral and run the engine at high
>
> speed (2500∼3000rpm).
>
> 3. Slowly pour approximately 50cc of blower wash into
>
> the turbocharger air intake over a period of about 10
>
> seconds.
>
> 4. After about 3 minutes, pour in approximately 50cc of
>
> fresh water in the same manner over a period of about
>
> 10 seconds.
>
> 5. After operating the engine for about 10 minutes,
>
> check the boost pressure and power output.
>
> If there is no improvement after washing the blower,
>
> repeat the washing process several times.
>
> If there is still no improvement consult your local Yanmar
>
> dealer.
>
>
>
> This sounds kind of crazy, spraying soapy water and then water into your
> intake –
>
> Has anyone ever done this or know of anyone who has?
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C 39 Erie, PA
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Re: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I bought some turbo wash at the boat show last year but have not used it.
It was $20 for a couple ounces, so I hope it is more than soap.

Joel
4JHTE

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just read this in a Yanmar Manual:
>
>
>
> *6) Washing the Turbocharger Blower*
>
> When engine speed seems sluggish or the exhaust color
>
> poor, the blades of the turbocharger blower may be dirty.
>
> Wash the blower in the following manner.
>
> 1. Have ready blower wash (liquid detergent), fresh
>
> water, and a small pitcher.
>
> *Blower Wash (4L)*
>
> *Parts Code:974500-00400*
>
> 2. Put the clutch in neutral and run the engine at high
>
> speed (2500∼3000rpm).
>
> 3. Slowly pour approximately 50cc of blower wash into
>
> the turbocharger air intake over a period of about 10
>
> seconds.
>
> 4. After about 3 minutes, pour in approximately 50cc of
>
> fresh water in the same manner over a period of about
>
> 10 seconds.
>
> 5. After operating the engine for about 10 minutes,
>
> check the boost pressure and power output.
>
> If there is no improvement after washing the blower,
>
> repeat the washing process several times.
>
> If there is still no improvement consult your local Yanmar
>
> dealer.
>
>
>
> This sounds kind of crazy, spraying soapy water and then water into your
> intake –
>
> Has anyone ever done this or know of anyone who has?
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C 39 Erie, PA
>
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Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I just read this in a Yanmar Manual:

 

6) Washing the Turbocharger Blower

When engine speed seems sluggish or the exhaust color

poor, the blades of the turbocharger blower may be dirty.

Wash the blower in the following manner.

1. Have ready blower wash (liquid detergent), fresh

water, and a small pitcher.

Blower Wash (4L)

Parts Code:974500-00400

2. Put the clutch in neutral and run the engine at high

speed (2500∼3000rpm).

3. Slowly pour approximately 50cc of blower wash into

the turbocharger air intake over a period of about 10

seconds.

4. After about 3 minutes, pour in approximately 50cc of

fresh water in the same manner over a period of about

10 seconds.

5. After operating the engine for about 10 minutes,

check the boost pressure and power output.

If there is no improvement after washing the blower,

repeat the washing process several times.

If there is still no improvement consult your local Yanmar

dealer.

 

This sounds kind of crazy, spraying soapy water and then water into your intake 
– 

Has anyone ever done this or know of anyone who has?

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

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Re: Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

[David via CnC-List]

I will take it!  Have you a PayPal acct?

Get Outlook for Android


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:27:55 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

I have a spare Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus in leather case with screen protector.  
Model # GT-P6210.  $30 plus shipping.  Android 4.0.4 Not sure if the current 
Navionics will run on that version of Android.  I had Navionics on it a few 
years ago.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:04 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Need to buy a replacement.  Anybody here want to sell a surplus unit?


Rather keep the money in the "family"...


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The Yanmar manual does have some guidance on page 44.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yenJtR1BxWjhqZGs/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
> long motor.
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> Wade
> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Wade,
>>
>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>> Hi Josh,
>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>> accumulation?
>> Wade
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>
>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Josh,
>>
>> That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.
>> Standard or stainless?
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>> *Hampton VA*
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
>> Muckley via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
>> *To:* C List 
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>> I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine
>> the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts
>> which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a
>> considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
>> riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
>> broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
>> that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
>> unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
>> compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
>> decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
>> emergency repair.
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have a spare Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus in leather case with screen protector.
Model # GT-P6210.  $30 plus shipping.  Android 4.0.4 Not sure if the
current Navionics will run on that version of Android.  I had Navionics on
it a few years ago.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:04 AM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Need to buy a replacement.  Anybody here want to sell a surplus unit?
>
>
> Rather keep the money in the "family"...
>
>
> *David F. Risch, J. D.*
>
> *Gulf Stream Associates, LLC*
>
>
> *(401) 419-4650 *
>
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Re: Stus-List Gas consumption C with Atomic 4

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

At 4 - 5 knots into wind and waves a consumption of 1.8 CND gallons per hour is 
possible.
Very roughly a 4 stroke gas engine running efficiently will yield about 15 HP 
at 1 gallon CND per hour.
Subtract losses for the alternator and water pumps and 1.8 might give you 20 - 
24 HP at the prop.


One thing to check is the timing which seems to have an effect on the A4 under 
load. Pick
a flat windless day, come up to a reasonable speed and measure it by GPS. The 
best is to
adjust the distributor while running for highest speed, may not be possible or 
safe.


A guess is that some of the distributors may not be advancing well. There are 
some weights
and springs inside that should be advancing the timing as the engine revs up 
but the few
that I have looked at for people either didn't move at all or had a 
significantly reduced range.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1




From: jay hackney  
 
Hello colleagues 
Filled with gas for the Atomic 4 in Port Whitby Canada Day and sailed back to 
Toronto. Wind out of the West and tight timeline meant we had to motor against 
the wind and waves for 2.5 hr. That would be relatively ?hard? motoring at 4-5 
knots. Since then I?ve motored about another 3/4hr for a total of 3.25 hours, 
again at about 4.5 knots. Filled with gas again the other day to measure gas 
consumption and got 7.9 litres per hour, or 1.8 gal per hour. 
I?ve got a 2-blade folding prop (which, by the way, make reversing difficult - 
in the sense that there is no quick stopping). 
Does that seem normal? 
Online research seems to go from 0.5 to 2-3 gal per hour. 
Anyone with an A4 on a C with a gas consumption comparison out there? 
thanks 
Jay Hackney 
Windblown 
Toronto 
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Ya mar recommends running the engine full throttle 5 minutes every hour or 1 
hour a day.  The want you to heat things up to burn off carbon deposits.

At least what the Service Manager told a group of Island Packet owners at their 
annual rendezvous

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: 30141442600n behalf of
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Wade Glew
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for 
motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder trying to 
find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the tachometer range is 
on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the engine up to a high rpm 
before shutting it down for what reason I don't know. Lastly, I notice truckers 
never shut off their engines immediately after a highway haul. Should I idle my 
engine before shutting down after a long motor.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello Wade,

Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've seen the 
number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and avoiding 
running the engine solely to charge the batteries.

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net



From: Wade Glew via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Wade Glew mailto:wadeg...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

Hi Josh,
Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you mean by 
"keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot accumulation?
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the elbow 
was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of regulatory 
keeping the engine load as high as possible.

Josh

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley 
mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.  Replaced 
with "stainless" from ebay.

Josh



On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Josh,

That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.  Standard or 
stainless?

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”
Hampton VA
[cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]



From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
To: C List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine the 
other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts which I 
have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a 
considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the riser.  
In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had broken away. 
 Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found that the rust 
had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go unexpectedly I would have 
started blowing exhaust and water into my engine compartment.  My "what would I 
have done" thoughts started rolling and I've decided that a tube of epoxy putty 
would have been my first effort at an emergency repair.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




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Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

[David via CnC-List]

Need to buy a replacement.  Anybody here want to sell a surplus unit?


Rather keep the money in the "family"...


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
long motor.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello Wade,
>
> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've seen
> the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> --
> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>
> Hi Josh,
> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
> accumulation?
> Wade
> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>
> Josh
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>
> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
> That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.  Standard
> or stainless?
>
> Jake
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
> *Hampton VA*
> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
> *To:* C List 
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>
> I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine
> the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts
> which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a
> considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
> riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
> broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
> that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
> unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
> compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
> decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
> emergency repair.
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Whenever I'm running the engine I try to run it full-ish throttle.  The
typically recommendation is greater that 80%.  Some unwitting cruisers will
idle  to charge batteries, or motor sail at low RPM.  My max continuous RPM
is 3200.  I try to reach ~2800.  Fisherman have particular trouble since
trolling requires low rpm and sometimes idle rpm to keep the boat slow
enough at 3 or 4 knots.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:09 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi Josh,
> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
> accumulation?
> Wade
> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>
>>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Josh,



 That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.
 Standard or stainless?



 Jake



 *Jake Brodersen*

 *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*

 *Hampton VA*

 [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]







 *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
 Muckley via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
 *To:* C List 
 *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
 *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck



 I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the
 engine the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with
 parts which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on
 and a considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
 riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
 broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
 that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
 unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
 compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
 decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
 emergency repair.

 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv



 Josh Muckley

 S/V Sea Hawk

 1989 C 37+

 Solomons, MD








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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello Wade, 

Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've seen the 
number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and avoiding 
running the engine solely to charge the batteries.   Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Wade Glew via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Wade Glew 
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
   
Hi Josh,Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you 
mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot 
accumulation?WadeOh Boy C 33 MKII 
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List,  
wrote:

I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the elbow 
was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of regulatory 
keeping the engine load as high as possible.
Josh
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:

It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.  Replaced 
with "stainless" from ebay.
Josh


On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Josh, That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.  
Standard or stainless? Jake Jake BrodersenC 35 Mk-III “Midnight 
Mistress”Hampton VA   From: CnC-List  On Behalf 
Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck I found some rust 
blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine the other day.  I had a 
moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts which I have had for some 
time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a considerable amount of 
wrestling was required to separate it from the riser.  In the effort it went 
unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had broken away.  Once I finally got 
it off and had a chance to inspect I found that the rust had opened up a dime 
sized hole.  If this had let go unexpectedly I would have started blowing 
exhaust and water into my engine compartment.  My "what would I have done" 
thoughts started rolling and I've decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have 
been my first effort at an emergency 
repair.https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv 
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

Hi Josh,
Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
accumulation?
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>
> Josh
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>
>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.
>>> Standard or stainless?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>>
>>> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>>>
>>> *Hampton VA*
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
>>> Muckley via CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
>>> *To:* C List 
>>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the
>>> engine the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with
>>> parts which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on
>>> and a considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
>>> riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
>>> broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
>>> that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
>>> unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
>>> compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
>>> decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
>>> emergency repair.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Muckley
>>>
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>
>>> 1989 C 37+
>>>
>>> Solomons, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Removing old stickers

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

No-in a fleet of about 18 PHRF spin boats with ratings from -62 to 180, we were 
mid fleet!
Thanks for hair dryer tip. I definitely want to minimize Aelfric damage.

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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List  
wrote:

Charlie...did you win??? If so, leave them on, if not, start with a hair dryer 

Work slowly, resort to solvents after the main part is removed.
Don't get aggressive with buffers or eraser wheels if you can help it.
Ron C. 


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Sent: 2018-07-18 12:02:00 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Removing old stickers

I have Charleston Race Week stickers on my bow (OK, I have been busy with other 
things!) that I need to remove.
 
The boat has Awl-Grip on its hull which I would prefer to preserve.
 
Aside from plastic scrapers, soap and water, and elbow grease, does anyone have 
a magic remedy to remove this.
 
Its not a decal, just adhesive backed but they are about 18" x 18".
 
TIA,
 
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C XL/kcb 
 
cenel...@aol.com


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Re: Stus-List Removing old stickers

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

We use oven cleaner to remove everything but it’s gelcoat not paint.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Jul 18, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have Charleston Race Week stickers on my bow (OK, I have been busy with 
> other things!) that I need to remove.
>  
> The boat has Awl-Grip on its hull which I would prefer to preserve.
>  
> Aside from plastic scrapers, soap and water, and elbow grease, does anyone 
> have a magic remedy to remove this.
>  
> Its not a decal, just adhesive backed but they are about 18" x 18".
>  
> TIA,
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C XL/kcb 
>  
> cenel...@aol.com
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Re: Stus-List Removing old stickers

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Thanks Brian, 

That may be my only option – I was hoping to get to Easy Street, but sometimes  
there is no on ramp!

Easy off works fine on Gel coat, but I wouldn’t try it with paint on paint.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: Nauset Beach [mailto:nausetbe...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 4:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: 'Bill Coleman'
Subject: RE: Stus-List Removing old stickers

 

Bill,

 

A couple of suggestions made on another sailing list:  

 

Use 600 wet sandpaper with a sponge block to carefully remove old lettering.  
Then 800 wet sandpaper & compound with a polisher to restore the finish.

 

Or:

 

Easy Off Oven cleaner was used to remove painted name and hailing port from our 
transom. There was a shadow remaining from 'sun bleach' vs shaded that has 
since been decreased with subsequent surface polishing.

 

Have not tried either.  My boat had vinyl lettering on both quarters and the 
transom when I bought her and I removed it all with a hair drier and a plastic 
putty knife.  

 

Good luck.

Brian

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:13 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Removing old stickers

 

I just bought some stuff called Vinyl-Off, worked good on my buddies old decal 
hailing port.

http://www.crystaltek.us.com/crystaltek-vinyl-off.htm

 

Didn’t work so good for me, after a lot of frustrating  work between my 
daughter and I, I discovered it was paint on Awlgrip.

Does anyone know an easy way to remove paint from Awlgrip?

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

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Re: Stus-List Follow up to "The One" - Jubilee in Seattle

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I have to say that boat looks pretty sweet!  And they got a good price 
for it!  It looks clean, up to date and well maintained. Boats like that 
are pretty rare.  I've looked at probably 20 boats with interest in 
buying and it is not often you find a boat that has been well cared for.


Good luck on your continued search!  I'd say you're being choosy and you 
should be!


$21,500 for a 47 year old boat with an Atomic 4!  Of course I think the 
Atomic 4 is a great engine but a lot of people feel differently.


Danny

On 7/18/2018 10:52 PM, Geoff Winslow via CnC-List wrote:
"So we had 3 buyer bidding war, one came in with full 
asking/cash/waived survey and haul-out/signed bill of sale and closed 
today."


From the current ex-owner of Jubilee, the C 35 I asked about 
yesterday.  Sadly she will not be mine, but she has set the bar and 
given me a good direction to keep searching in.  I think I will keep 
looking within the C family for a boat.  There's a 36 up near 
Bellingham I can go look at...


Thanks for all the help, everyone.


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