Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the stern pulpit.

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I sent some phots and information to John in response to this request, but
the email was rejected by gmail with an indication the johnrogerswright
address was invalid. 

John, if you are still on the list and interested in the photos and
information, email me off list and give me your current email address.


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:04 PM
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Cc: John 
Subject: Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the
stern pulpit.

Yes Rick I would appreciate a picture. 

johnrogerswri...@gmail.com

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> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> John;
> 
> You can use any boarding ladder you chose to purchase, but longer is 
> better for getting up out of the water. And the gate in the pushpit is 
> a length of covered stainless wire with a shackle swaged to one end 
> and a pelican hook on the other.
> 
> I can send you a photo of what is on my 38, if you would like.
> 
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> John via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: John 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with 
> the stern pulpit.
> 
> Hello everyone
> 
> I need to find a boarding ladder and section of the stern pulpit, it 
> was removed by previous owner. See picture.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Solar panels and LED light bulbs.

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I can't help you with the alternator issues.

Regarding LED replacement bulbs, they don't have to be expensive to be good. 
But you have to do some searching around. Since you are on this side of the 
border, you may like to check the marineledscanada.ca. I had good success with 
his solutions (they do work and they were competitively priced, especially 
compared to some US prices). A caveat: I am not sure if he is still in 
business. 

Regardless where you get them from, do it. The current draw is so much lower 
that you would never look back.

The fully flexible solar panels might be too big for what you need. I have a 24 
W panel that I carry on the bimini and it is 35 cm x 200 cm. It is almost as 
long as it can be without dropping on either side. The nice thing is that I can 
leave it on the bimini, when I fold it down and it can stay there. It is not 
the best way to do it, but it does work when you want to do it quickly. 
However, this would not help you at all, because you need about 200 W for the 
fridge.

The semi-flexible panels have higher wattage, but are much less flexible and 
you would have to take them down.

Marek

1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON



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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 13:42
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: DON JONSSON 
Subject: Stus-List Solar panels and LED light bulbs.

Hi All

Last year after putting in a new Beta engine with a larger alternator (110 amp) 
we added an additional battery, a battery monitor, and to use all that power, a 
fridge.  (Of interest, and not the point of this email, is we went through two 
alternators on the boat last summer both on warranty.  Doesn't bode well.  We 
did not put in a smart regulator as it would void the warranty.  Guess that was 
a good thing.  Two mechanics have gone through the boat and all wiring is good. 
 They claim manufacturing default in both alternators.   Hmmm.)

The fridge is a fantastic addition especially when you are up north with no 
stores to buy ice, or much food for that matter.   BUT, as you all know it 
takes a lot of power.  Which gets me to the questions.  Easy one first.

1.  We have added some new LED reading light fixtures but still have a few more 
old incandescent lights where we would like to keep the fixtures.  You can get 
replacement LED bulbs that range in price from a couple of dollars to $15.   I 
read that cheaper ones don't deal with variations in voltage very well and you 
should spend more money.  Does anyone have experience and recommendations.

2. The real solution, we think, is solar panels.  But how much do they really 
help and where to put them on a 34 foot sailboat.  It seems all locations come 
with a compromise.   We are considering:

A: On top of the dodger, but the boom will always be an issue.  Especially 
since we don't have a bimini we use the boom for supporting our awning that we 
put up on hot sunny days.  Yes we occasionally get them up on the BC coast and 
blocking the sun is mandatory.

B: Get a bimini and mount them on it.  But this gets us back to the sunshine 
issue.  Lots of days it isn't that warm and you want the sun on you.  A Bimini 
with solar panels is not that easy to fold out of the way.  Also it isn't cheap.

C: Hang them off the life lines or rails at the back of the boat with a support 
that allows you to set them flat when at anchor.  But we occasionally carry 
bikes back there and we couldn't have both at the same time.  Also looks a 
little clunky.

D:  Leave them as portable and set them out when at anchor.  But then it is a 
pain and you don't do it unless you are sitting for a while and you have all 
the wire to deal with, etc.  And they aren't helping much under sail.

So does anyone have a recommendation as to what they have done and how it 
works.  Also how many amp hours did you get on a sunny day?  What size of 
panels did you use.

I know, that like everything on a boat it is always a compromise, we are just 
trying to figure out which one to make.

Thanks for any help.

Don Jonsson
Andante, C 34
Victoria, BC


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Re: Stus-List Solar panels and LED light bulbs.

[David via CnC-List]

Had a 80 amp Balmar for 12 years.  Buy their smart charger.  Flawless 
performance.

>From my Android


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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:46:52 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Solar panels and LED light bulbs.

No help for you on the solar panels but the ONLY LED replacement bulbs or 
fixtures to buy are marinebeam.com.

I've bought a couple of LED products from other suppliers.  I have replaced 
them with marinebeam products.

I have both entire fixtures and also replacement bulbs from them.  1st quality 
products.

Do it right the first time, go with marinebeam.com.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:42 PM DON JONSSON via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi All

Last year after putting in a new Beta engine with a larger alternator (110 amp) 
we added an additional battery, a battery monitor, and to use all that power, a 
fridge.  (Of interest, and not the point of this email, is we went through two 
alternators on the boat last summer both on warranty.  Doesn't bode well.  We 
did not put in a smart regulator as it would void the warranty.  Guess that was 
a good thing.  Two mechanics have gone through the boat and all wiring is good. 
 They claim manufacturing default in both alternators.   Hmmm.)

The fridge is a fantastic addition especially when you are up north with no 
stores to buy ice, or much food for that matter.   BUT, as you all know it 
takes a lot of power.  Which gets me to the questions.  Easy one first.

1.  We have added some new LED reading light fixtures but still have a few more 
old incandescent lights where we would like to keep the fixtures.  You can get 
replacement LED bulbs that range in price from a couple of dollars to $15.   I 
read that cheaper ones don't deal with variations in voltage very well and you 
should spend more money.  Does anyone have experience and recommendations.

2. The real solution, we think, is solar panels.  But how much do they really 
help and where to put them on a 34 foot sailboat.  It seems all locations come 
with a compromise.   We are considering:

A: On top of the dodger, but the boom will always be an issue.  Especially 
since we don't have a bimini we use the boom for supporting our awning that we 
put up on hot sunny days.  Yes we occasionally get them up on the BC coast and 
blocking the sun is mandatory.

B: Get a bimini and mount them on it.  But this gets us back to the sunshine 
issue.  Lots of days it isn't that warm and you want the sun on you.  A Bimini 
with solar panels is not that easy to fold out of the way.  Also it isn't cheap.

C: Hang them off the life lines or rails at the back of the boat with a support 
that allows you to set them flat when at anchor.  But we occasionally carry 
bikes back there and we couldn't have both at the same time.  Also looks a 
little clunky.

D:  Leave them as portable and set them out when at anchor.  But then it is a 
pain and you don't do it unless you are sitting for a while and you have all 
the wire to deal with, etc.  And they aren't helping much under sail.

So does anyone have a recommendation as to what they have done and how it 
works.  Also how many amp hours did you get on a sunny day?  What size of 
panels did you use.

I know, that like everything on a boat it is always a compromise, we are just 
trying to figure out which one to make.

Thanks for any help.

Don Jonsson
Andante, C 34
Victoria, BC


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Re: Stus-List Solar panels and LED light bulbs.

[Dave via CnC-List]

Interesting - have been contemplating exactly this for Windstar - 33-2, and  my 
needs and equipment are  similar for contemplated summer cruising in Georgian 
bay.

I have a Bimini and can barely fit 200w (iirc) of solar panel on the Bimini, 
which is the bare minimum required to keep my house battery whole.   (I could 
be misremembering the wattage)  Mounting the flexible panels will take some 
thought.   I don’t want to bother with set up and take down panels

I have converted to LED lighting - a big difference in power consumption and 
have used a variety of light sources, including some inexpensive halogen 
replacement bulbs from amazon and some dome lights from princess auto.   Am 
very happy with both despite the low cost.

IMHO Biggest remaining issue is the fridge - it needs to be better sealed and 
better insulated is to reduce the amp-hour draw.  This will take some thought 
and is a project for the winter.   

Am a bit behind on blog updates but will catch up over the next week or so.
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2015/12/hello-all-this-blog-is-intended-to.html

Am interested in the evolution of your plans!

Dave 


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> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:42 PM, DON JONSSON  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Last year after putting in a new Beta engine with a larger alternator (110 
> amp) we added an additional battery, a battery monitor, and to use all that 
> power, a fridge.  (Of interest, and not the point of this email, is we went 
> through two alternators on the boat last summer both on warranty.  Doesn't 
> bode well.  We did not put in a smart regulator as it would void the 
> warranty.  Guess that was a good thing.  Two mechanics have gone through the 
> boat and all wiring is good.  They claim manufacturing default in both 
> alternators.   Hmmm.)
> 
> The fridge is a fantastic addition especially when you are up north with no 
> stores to buy ice, or much food for that matter.   BUT, as you all know it 
> takes a lot of power.  Which gets me to the questions.  Easy one first.
> 
> 1.  We have added some new LED reading light fixtures but still have a few 
> more old incandescent lights where we would like to keep the fixtures.  You 
> can get replacement LED bulbs that range in price from a couple of dollars to 
> $15.   I read that cheaper ones don't deal with variations in voltage very 
> well and you should spend more money.  Does anyone have experience and 
> recommendations.
> 
> 2. The real solution, we think, is solar panels.  But how much do they really 
> help and where to put them on a 34 foot sailboat.  It seems all locations 
> come with a compromise.   We are considering:
> 
> A: On top of the dodger, but the boom will always be an issue.  Especially 
> since we don't have a bimini we use the boom for supporting our awning that 
> we put up on hot sunny days.  Yes we occasionally get them up on the BC coast 
> and blocking the sun is mandatory.
> 
> B: Get a bimini and mount them on it.  But this gets us back to the sunshine 
> issue.  Lots of days it isn't that warm and you want the sun on you.  A 
> Bimini with solar panels is not that easy to fold out of the way.  Also it 
> isn't cheap.
> 
> C: Hang them off the life lines or rails at the back of the boat with a 
> support that allows you to set them flat when at anchor.  But we occasionally 
> carry bikes back there and we couldn't have both at the same time.  Also 
> looks a little clunky.
> 
> D:  Leave them as portable and set them out when at anchor.  But then it is a 
> pain and you don't do it unless you are sitting for a while and you have all 
> the wire to deal with, etc.  And they aren't helping much under sail.
> 
> So does anyone have a recommendation as to what they have done and how it 
> works.  Also how many amp hours did you get on a sunny day?  What size of 
> panels did you use.
> 
> I know, that like everything on a boat it is always a compromise, we are just 
> trying to figure out which one to make.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Don Jonsson
> Andante, C 34
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Recommended 33-2 deck fill replacement

[Dave via CnC-List]

Doing some work on Windstar, and while I’m at it I will probably replace the 
sun-beaten original water deck fill.   Any recommendations as to a high-quality 
replacement?Thanks!

Dave

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Re: Stus-List C newport 41 1977 fore deck hatches

[Mark A Watson via CnC-List]

> Alan,
Thank you I was afraid of that reality 

Mark Watson
Trinity 
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Re: Stus-List Solar panels and LED light bulbs.

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

No help for you on the solar panels but the ONLY LED replacement bulbs or
fixtures to buy are marinebeam.com.

I've bought a couple of LED products from other suppliers.  I have replaced
them with marinebeam products.

I have both entire fixtures and also replacement bulbs from them.  1st
quality products.

Do it right the first time, go with marinebeam.com.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:42 PM DON JONSSON via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Last year after putting in a new Beta engine with a larger alternator (110
> amp) we added an additional battery, a battery monitor, and to use all that
> power, a fridge.  (Of interest, and not the point of this email, is we went
> through two alternators on the boat last summer both on warranty.  Doesn't
> bode well.  We did not put in a smart regulator as it would void the
> warranty.  Guess that was a good thing.  Two mechanics have gone through
> the boat and all wiring is good.  They claim manufacturing default in both
> alternators.   Hmmm.)
>
> The fridge is a fantastic addition especially when you are up north with
> no stores to buy ice, or much food for that matter.   BUT, as you all know
> it takes a lot of power.  Which gets me to the questions.  Easy one first.
>
> 1.  We have added some new LED reading light fixtures but still have a few
> more old incandescent lights where we would like to keep the fixtures.  You
> can get replacement LED bulbs that range in price from a couple of dollars
> to $15.   I read that cheaper ones don't deal with variations in voltage
> very well and you should spend more money.  Does anyone have experience and
> recommendations.
>
> 2. The real solution, we think, is solar panels.  But how much do they
> really help and where to put them on a 34 foot sailboat.  It seems all
> locations come with a compromise.   We are considering:
>
> A: On top of the dodger, but the boom will always be an issue.  Especially
> since we don't have a bimini we use the boom for supporting our awning that
> we put up on hot sunny days.  Yes we occasionally get them up on the BC
> coast and blocking the sun is mandatory.
>
> B: Get a bimini and mount them on it.  But this gets us back to the
> sunshine issue.  Lots of days it isn't that warm and you want the sun on
> you.  A Bimini with solar panels is not that easy to fold out of the way.
> Also it isn't cheap.
>
> C: Hang them off the life lines or rails at the back of the boat with a
> support that allows you to set them flat when at anchor.  But we
> occasionally carry bikes back there and we couldn't have both at the same
> time.  Also looks a little clunky.
>
> D:  Leave them as portable and set them out when at anchor.  But then it
> is a pain and you don't do it unless you are sitting for a while and you
> have all the wire to deal with, etc.  And they aren't helping much under
> sail.
>
> So does anyone have a recommendation as to what they have done and how it
> works.  Also how many amp hours did you get on a sunny day?  What size of
> panels did you use.
>
> I know, that like everything on a boat it is always a compromise, we are
> just trying to figure out which one to make.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Don Jonsson
> Andante, C 34
> Victoria, BC
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

Will do Marek!


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On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 4:52 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:

If you call Garhauer, talk to them about replicating your bolt pattern. That 
way, you could re-use all the mounting holes. 
Marek 


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 Original message From: Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 Date: 2018-10-13 10:26 (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sam Salter  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List C 26' or 27'? 
Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on 
the underside. It fits the head of the installation bolts so they can slide 
anywhere along the track. No filling and redrilling  - they can match the 
original bolt spacing - easy, quick install.
sam
On Oct 13, 2018, at 7:13 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?
Chris 


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 
Roller furling or hank on Sam?


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Chris,
I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”
I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,
When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.Both 
upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the laminate 
sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was doing it 
again.I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 
Best upgrades:New sailsFolding propSelf tailers (The folding prop might have 
given me more speed than the new sails)

sam C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thank you Sam!
This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.
Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.
Chris
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have a 1977 C 26.I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.The 26 wasn’t 
raced much; the 27 is still competitive!Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard 
and put away wet.That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition 
than all the 27’s I looked at.The 26 is a tender boat!She does move quite well 
in light air.I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.I 
lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.I’ve had 7.4 knots on 
occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.She is a roomy boat which is nice!I 
have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.I’ve done lots of upgrades: 
self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / ridged vang / etc., etc..I 
like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with the 
genoa trimmer behind on the winches.She’s a good, solid boat compared to the 
Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can 
sail away!Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.I see too many project boats 
that never get in the water.

sam C$C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 



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Re: Stus-List Garhauer traveler

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

He is excellent and his gear is even better, high quality guaranteed for 10 
years

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> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Derrick,
> Call Guido at Garhauer. He will help you with finding the best traveler. I 
> just had him help me with finding a new traveler for my LF39. Plus Garhauer 
> will modify it to fit your boat. 
> 
> Doug
> 
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Douglas Mountjoy
> Port Orchard YC, WA
> Rebecca Leah
> LF39
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If you call Garhauer, talk to them about replicating your bolt pattern. That 
way, you could re-use all the mounting holes.

Marek



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 Original message 
From: Sam Salter via CnC-List 
Date: 2018-10-13 10:26 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Salter 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on 
the underside. It fits the head of the installation bolts so they can slide 
anywhere along the track. No filling and redrilling  - they can match the 
original bolt spacing - easy, quick install.

sam

On Oct 13, 2018, at 7:13 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?

Chris


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Gotcha!

Roller furling or hank on Sam?


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Chris,

I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”

I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter 
mailto:sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Chris,

When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.
Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the 
laminate sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was 
doing it again.
I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day.
Best upgrades:
New sails
Folding prop
Self tailers
(The folding prop might have given me more speed than the new sails)

sam
C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta


On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Thank you Sam!

This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.

Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.

Chris

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I have a 1977 C 26.
I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.
The 26 wasn’t raced much; the 27 is still competitive!
Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard and put away wet.
That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition than all the 27’s 
I looked at.
The 26 is a tender boat!
She does move quite well in light air.
I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.
I lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.
I’ve had 7.4 knots on occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.
She is a roomy boat which is nice!
I have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.
I’ve done lots of upgrades: self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / 
ridged vang / etc., etc..
I like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with 
the genoa trimmer behind on the winches.
She’s a good, solid boat compared to the Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.
Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can sail away!
Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.
I see too many project boats that never get in the water.

sam
C$C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta




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Re: Stus-List C newport 41 1977 fore deck hatches

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

My previous boat was an Ericson 2-30. It had wooden framed hatches that I
replaced with aluminum framed hatches from Bomar. The deck on the Ericson
was raised, so the mounting surface of the wooden framed hatches wasn't
curved. On your boat you would have to mount the Bomar or Harken hatches on
the wooden frames, or build up the curved surface of the deck so that the
aluminum framed hatches would sit flush.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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> Ladies and gentlemen
>
> We acquired  Trinity (C newport 41 mk1 c from 1977) a little over a year
> ago and love her.
>
>
> Question has anybody have experience replacing the original wood framed
> and plexiglass  deck hatch’s with something more contemporary in aluminum. ?
>
> Here is a link to an image
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oh4ql9k5u4wt20/IMG_3869.jpg?dl=0
> 
>
>
> Best regards
> Mark Watson
>
> E: m...@watsonandson.com
> 14153092059
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[Mark A Watson via CnC-List]

Ladies and gentlemen 
We acquired  Trinity (C newport 41 mk1 c from 1977) a little over a year ago 
and love her. 

Question has anybody have experience replacing the original wood framed and 
plexiglass  deck hatch’s with something more contemporary in aluminum. ?

Here is a link to an image 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oh4ql9k5u4wt20/IMG_3869.jpg?dl=0

Best regards
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E: m...@watsonandson.com
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

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 On my 27 MkIII I installed the Lewmar size 1, it uses the existing holes. 
Happy with it ( but I customized it for single handling )

Sylvain
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On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 9:14:28 AM EDT, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a 
system that won’t break the bank?
Chris 


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 wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 
Roller furling or hank on Sam?


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Chris,
I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”
I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,
When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.Both 
upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the laminate 
sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was doing it 
again.I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 
Best upgrades:New sailsFolding propSelf tailers (The folding prop might have 
given me more speed than the new sails)

sam C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Thank you Sam!
This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.
Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.
Chris
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I have a 1977 C 26.I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.The 26 wasn’t 
raced much; the 27 is still competitive!Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard 
and put away wet.That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition 
than all the 27’s I looked at.The 26 is a tender boat!She does move quite well 
in light air.I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.I 
lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.I’ve had 7.4 knots on 
occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.She is a roomy boat which is nice!I 
have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.I’ve done lots of upgrades: 
self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / ridged vang / etc., etc..I 
like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with the 
genoa trimmer behind on the winches.She’s a good, solid boat compared to the 
Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can 
sail away!Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.I see too many project boats 
that never get in the water.

sam C$C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 



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[DON JONSSON via CnC-List]

Hi All

Last year after putting in a new Beta engine with a larger alternator (110 amp) 
we added an additional battery, a battery monitor, and to use all that power, a 
fridge.  (Of interest, and not the point of this email, is we went through two 
alternators on the boat last summer both on warranty.  Doesn't bode well.  We 
did not put in a smart regulator as it would void the warranty.  Guess that was 
a good thing.  Two mechanics have gone through the boat and all wiring is good. 
 They claim manufacturing default in both alternators.   Hmmm.)

The fridge is a fantastic addition especially when you are up north with no 
stores to buy ice, or much food for that matter.   BUT, as you all know it 
takes a lot of power.  Which gets me to the questions.  Easy one first.

1.  We have added some new LED reading light fixtures but still have a few more 
old incandescent lights where we would like to keep the fixtures.  You can get 
replacement LED bulbs that range in price from a couple of dollars to $15.   I 
read that cheaper ones don't deal with variations in voltage very well and you 
should spend more money.  Does anyone have experience and recommendations.

2. The real solution, we think, is solar panels.  But how much do they really 
help and where to put them on a 34 foot sailboat.  It seems all locations come 
with a compromise.   We are considering:

A: On top of the dodger, but the boom will always be an issue.  Especially 
since we don't have a bimini we use the boom for supporting our awning that we 
put up on hot sunny days.  Yes we occasionally get them up on the BC coast and 
blocking the sun is mandatory.

B: Get a bimini and mount them on it.  But this gets us back to the sunshine 
issue.  Lots of days it isn't that warm and you want the sun on you.  A Bimini 
with solar panels is not that easy to fold out of the way.  Also it isn't cheap.

C: Hang them off the life lines or rails at the back of the boat with a support 
that allows you to set them flat when at anchor.  But we occasionally carry 
bikes back there and we couldn't have both at the same time.  Also looks a 
little clunky.

D:  Leave them as portable and set them out when at anchor.  But then it is a 
pain and you don't do it unless you are sitting for a while and you have all 
the wire to deal with, etc.  And they aren't helping much under sail.

So does anyone have a recommendation as to what they have done and how it 
works.  Also how many amp hours did you get on a sunny day?  What size of 
panels did you use.

I know, that like everything on a boat it is always a compromise, we are just 
trying to figure out which one to make.

Thanks for any help.

Don Jonsson
Andante, C 34
Victoria, BC


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Re: Stus-List Garhauer traveler

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I’m looking for the same!!! 
So thanks for that :) 


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On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 12:54 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Oops, It was supposed to go to Derrick. 
Doug

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 9:51 AM Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Not sure if this was meant for me but I’ve worked with him before I believe. 
Love their products!
Chris 
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 wrote:

Derrick,Call Guido at Garhauer. He will help you with finding the best 
traveler. I just had him help me with finding a new traveler for my LF39. Plus 
Garhauer will modify it to fit your boat. 

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Oops, It was supposed to go to Derrick.
Doug

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> Not sure if this was meant for me but I’ve worked with him before I
> believe. Love their products!
>
> Chris
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 12:48 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Derrick,
> Call Guido at Garhauer. He will help you with finding the best traveler. I
> just had him help me with finding a new traveler for my LF39. Plus Garhauer
> will modify it to fit your boat.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Not sure if this was meant for me but I’ve worked with him before I believe. 
Love their products!
Chris 
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traveler. I just had him help me with finding a new traveler for my LF39. Plus 
Garhauer will modify it to fit your boat. 

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Derrick,
Call Guido at Garhauer. He will help you with finding the best traveler. I
just had him help me with finding a new traveler for my LF39. Plus Garhauer
will modify it to fit your boat.

Doug


>
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

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


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On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 11:36 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List 
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Go Garhauer

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On Oct 13, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:


I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?
Chris 


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 
Roller furling or hank on Sam?


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Chris,
I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”
I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,
When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.Both 
upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the laminate 
sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was doing it 
again.I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 
Best upgrades:New sailsFolding propSelf tailers (The folding prop might have 
given me more speed than the new sails)

sam C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thank you Sam!
This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.
Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.
Chris
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have a 1977 C 26.I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.The 26 wasn’t 
raced much; the 27 is still competitive!Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard 
and put away wet.That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition 
than all the 27’s I looked at.The 26 is a tender boat!She does move quite well 
in light air.I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.I 
lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.I’ve had 7.4 knots on 
occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.She is a roomy boat which is nice!I 
have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.I’ve done lots of upgrades: 
self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / ridged vang / etc., etc..I 
like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with the 
genoa trimmer behind on the winches.She’s a good, solid boat compared to the 
Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can 
sail away!Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.I see too many project boats 
that never get in the water.

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[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Go Garhauer

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On Oct 13, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?

Chris


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iPhone


On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Gotcha!

Roller furling or hank on Sam?


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Chris,

I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”

I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter 
mailto:sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Chris,

When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.
Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the 
laminate sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was 
doing it again.
I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day.
Best upgrades:
New sails
Folding prop
Self tailers
(The folding prop might have given me more speed than the new sails)

sam
C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta


On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Thank you Sam!

This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.

Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.

Chris

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I have a 1977 C 26.
I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.
The 26 wasn’t raced much; the 27 is still competitive!
Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard and put away wet.
That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition than all the 27’s 
I looked at.
The 26 is a tender boat!
She does move quite well in light air.
I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.
I lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.
I’ve had 7.4 knots on occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.
She is a roomy boat which is nice!
I have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.
I’ve done lots of upgrades: self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / 
ridged vang / etc., etc..
I like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with 
the genoa trimmer behind on the winches.
She’s a good, solid boat compared to the Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.
Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can sail away!
Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.
I see too many project boats that never get in the water.

sam
C$C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta




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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Always some on eBay.

BTW, there's  a FICO car out there now for anyone with that system.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 8:43 AM Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Look at the selection from Garhauer. Great stuff at an attractive price.
>
> Gary
>
> 30-1 with a boatload of their stuff
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Graham via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:14 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chris Graham 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?
>
>
>
> I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a
> system that won’t break the bank?
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Roller furler - Profurl
>
> sam
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Gotcha!
>
>
>
> Roller furling or hank on Sam?
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
>
>
> I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a
> 135”
>
>
>
> I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the
> laminate Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A
> laminate main would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the
> “bubble” at the luff.
>
> sam
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
>
>
> When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main.
> After a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a
> 135. Later I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails
> in Toronto.
>
> Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the
> laminate sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I
> was doing it again.
>
> I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day.
>
> Best upgrades:
>
> New sails
>
> Folding prop
>
> Self tailers
>
> (The folding prop might have given me more speed than the new sails)
>
> sam
>
> C 26  Liquorice
>
> Ghost Lake Alberta
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Sam!
>
>
>
> This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the
> exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap
> (don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I
> enjoy that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes
> good to go.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful
> for.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a 1977 C 26.
>
> I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.
>
> The 26 wasn’t raced much; the 27 is still competitive!
>
> Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard and put away wet.
>
> That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition than all the
> 27’s I looked at.
>
> The 26 is a tender boat!
>
> She does move quite well in light air.
>
> I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.
>
> I lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.
>
> I’ve had 7.4 knots on occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.
>
> She is a roomy boat which is nice!
>
> I have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.
>
> I’ve done lots of upgrades: self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa
> cars / ridged vang / etc., etc..
>
> I like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway
> with the genoa trimmer behind on the winches.
>
> She’s a good, solid boat compared to the Hunters and Catalina’s on the
> lake.
>
> Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can sail away!
>
> Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.
>
> I see too many project boats that never get in the water.
>
> sam
>
> C$C 26  Liquorice
>
> Ghost Lake Alberta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

Oh wow!
I’ll see if I can find that and take a look Chris 


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On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 10:25 AM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on 
the underside. It fits the head of the installation bolts so they can slide 
anywhere along the track. No filling and redrilling  - they can match the 
original bolt spacing - easy, quick install.
sam
On Oct 13, 2018, at 7:13 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?
Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 
Roller furling or hank on Sam?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Chris,
I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”
I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,
When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.Both 
upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the laminate 
sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was doing it 
again.I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 
Best upgrades:New sailsFolding propSelf tailers (The folding prop might have 
given me more speed than the new sails)

sam C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Thank you Sam!
This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.
Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.
Chris
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I have a 1977 C 26.I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.The 26 wasn’t 
raced much; the 27 is still competitive!Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard 
and put away wet.That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition 
than all the 27’s I looked at.The 26 is a tender boat!She does move quite well 
in light air.I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.I 
lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.I’ve had 7.4 knots on 
occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.She is a roomy boat which is nice!I 
have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.I’ve done lots of upgrades: 
self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / ridged vang / etc., etc..I 
like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with the 
genoa trimmer behind on the winches.She’s a good, solid boat compared to the 
Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can 
sail away!Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.I see too many project boats 
that never get in the water.

sam C$C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 



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Stus-List Garhauer traveler

[Derek Kennedy via CnC-List]

Hi Gary
I just read your reply to Chris.
I too have a 30-1, with the original traveller. One of its stops is jammed
and must be released with pliers. I'm looking to replace it and have looked
at the Garhauer catalog. What do you recommend?
Thanks
Derek
C 30 mk1 #553, Tortuga
Ballantynes Cove, NS


> Look at the selection from Garhauer. Great stuff at an attractive price.
>
> Gary
>
> 30-1 with a boatload of their stuff
>
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on 
the underside. It fits the head of the installation bolts so they can slide 
anywhere along the track. No filling and redrilling  - they can match the 
original bolt spacing - easy, quick install.

sam

On Oct 13, 2018, at 7:13 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?

Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 

Roller furling or hank on Sam?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Chris,

I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”

I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,

When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.
Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the 
laminate sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was 
doing it again.
I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 
Best upgrades:
New sails
Folding prop
Self tailers 
(The folding prop might have given me more speed than the new sails)

sam 
C 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 


On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thank you Sam!

This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.

Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.

Chris

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I have a 1977 C 26.
I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.
The 26 wasn’t raced much; the 27 is still competitive!
Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard and put away wet.
That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition than all the 27’s 
I looked at.
The 26 is a tender boat!
She does move quite well in light air.
I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.
I lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.
I’ve had 7.4 knots on occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.
She is a roomy boat which is nice!
I have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.
I’ve done lots of upgrades: self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / 
ridged vang / etc., etc..
I like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with 
the genoa trimmer behind on the winches.
She’s a good, solid boat compared to the Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.
Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can sail away!
Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.
I see too many project boats that never get in the water.

sam 
C$C 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 




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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

Thanks Gary!
Bought their boom bang for my 28’ and loved it!!!
Chris 


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Gary

30-1 with a boatload of their stuff

  

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

  

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?

  

Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Roller furler - Profurl

sam 


On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 

  

Roller furling or hank on Sam?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Chris,

  

I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”

  

I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam


On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,

  

When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.

Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the 
laminate sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was 
doing it again.

I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 

Best upgrades:

New sails

Folding prop

Self tailers 

(The folding prop might have given me more speed than the new sails)

sam 

C 26  Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

  


On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thank you Sam!

  

This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.

  

Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.

  

Chris

  

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

  

  

I have a 1977 C 26.

I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.

The 26 wasn’t raced much; the 27 is still competitive!

Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard and put away wet.

That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition than all the 27’s 
I looked at.

The 26 is a tender boat!

She does move quite well in light air.

I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.

I lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.

I’ve had 7.4 knots on occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.

She is a roomy boat which is nice!

I have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.

I’ve done lots of upgrades: self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / 
ridged vang / etc., etc..

I like the cockpit size and 

Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Look at the selection from Garhauer. Great stuff at an attractive price. 

Gary

30-1 with a boatload of their stuff

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

 

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?

 

Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone  

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 


On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Gotcha! 

 

Roller furling or hank on Sam?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone  

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Chris,

 

I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”

 

I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam


On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter mailto:sam.c.sal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Chris,

 

When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.

Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the 
laminate sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was 
doing it again.

I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 

Best upgrades:

New sails

Folding prop

Self tailers 

(The folding prop might have given me more speed than the new sails)

sam 

C 26  Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 


On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Thank you Sam!

 

This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.

 

Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.

 

Chris

 

On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I have a 1977 C 26.

I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.

The 26 wasn’t raced much; the 27 is still competitive!

Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard and put away wet.

That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition than all the 27’s 
I looked at.

The 26 is a tender boat!

She does move quite well in light air.

I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.

I lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.

I’ve had 7.4 knots on occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.

She is a roomy boat which is nice!

I have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.

I’ve done lots of upgrades: self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / 
ridged vang / etc., etc..

I like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with 
the genoa trimmer behind on the winches.

She’s a good, solid boat compared to the Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.

Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can sail away!

Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.

I see too many project boats that never get in the water.

sam 

C$C 26  Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system 
that won’t break the bank?
Chris 


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Roller furler - Profurl

sam 
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

Gotcha! 
Roller furling or hank on Sam?


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On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Chris,
I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135”
I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate 
Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main 
would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce the “bubble” at the luff.

sam
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

Chris,
When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After 
a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later 
I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto.Both 
upgrades improved performance (after all it is a sail boat), but the laminate 
sail was such a difference that I think I would go with a 110 if I was doing it 
again.I still have the new Dacron main but I might go with a laminate one day. 
Best upgrades:New sailsFolding propSelf tailers (The folding prop might have 
given me more speed than the new sails)

sam C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

On Oct 12, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Thank you Sam!
This 26' could be dropped in tomorrow. Most issues are cosmetic with the 
exception of one stanchion and either the water fill or septic pump out cap 
(don't want to confuse the  two) LOL So some recoring in the spring but I enjoy 
that kind of work and it really is minimal. Other than that, shes good to go.
Thanks for the input. Main sail has two reef points which I am thankful for.
Chris
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:46:20 AM EDT, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I have a 1977 C 26.I was looking for a 27 when I bought her.The 26 wasn’t 
raced much; the 27 is still competitive!Most (many?) 27’s have been raced hard 
and put away wet.That’s why I bought the 26 - it was in much better condition 
than all the 27’s I looked at.The 26 is a tender boat!She does move quite well 
in light air.I tend to reef early; but she still moves well, even when reefed.I 
lake sail, so not sure what she’d be like in a big sea.I’ve had 7.4 knots on 
occasion and high 6’s is fairly regular.She is a roomy boat which is nice!I 
have a Yanmar 2GM20F in mine with a Flexofold prop.I’ve done lots of upgrades: 
self trailers / new sails / adjustable Genoa cars / ridged vang / etc., etc..I 
like the cockpit size and tiller steering up close to the companionway with the 
genoa trimmer behind on the winches.She’s a good, solid boat compared to the 
Hunters and Catalina’s on the lake.Don’t buy a project boat - get one you can 
sail away!Upgrades are much more fun than repairs.I see too many project boats 
that never get in the water.

sam C$C 26  Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 



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