date:20181104

This topic is about 2 years old. I finally got a chance to play with the
polars for the 37+.

I use an Android app called SailGrib WR. It downloads grib files and then
performs routing based on expected wind and boat performance. It requires
the boat's polar data to be provided in order to be accurate. Some popular
boats are already provided but the 37+ is not. I finally broke down and
figured it all out. Once I made a .pol file, I was able to add it to the
SailGrib folder and then have the app draw the polar graph. I took a
screenshot and then overlayed the polar from the owner's manual. It seems
like a pretty close match.

All the files and pictures are available here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1mSEt5gP5gauUTnAeS_UILmcaMPhcxxGe


All the best,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
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Stus-List digest ejection!?!

2018-11-04 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

Might be.  I had that happen to me after a inadvertent “digest post” a week or 
so ago.

After I posted I started getting a peach email.  It took mere  a while to find 
the digest delivery button on the last web site.  It had got turned off.  I 
turned it back on and it’s been all good since then.

Guess it does seem like an appropriate punishment... :D

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660

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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

Obviously, if you have a gin-pole, it is a different story.

Marek

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I unstep and step the mast on my 24 with 2 people and my homemade a-frame gin 
pole. We use the same gin pole to step and unstep my friend's Morgan 25.
Ed

On Nov 4, 2018, at 9:56 PM, Marek Dziedzic 
mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

...Btw. On my old 24 the mast was like a tree trunk. I would not attempt to 
step it or unstep it with 3 people (I am not that strong); I’d rather climb it. 
But again, YMMV.

Marek
Ex. 1974 C 24
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

 ALAN wrote:
If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to your 
climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard. Don't let 
anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at the top, just 
in case you drop something. A friend of  mine ;loaned me his half inch drill, 
and a bit that fit in the winch. It didn't take me long to hoist one of my crew 
to the top of the mast, electrically.

Also, always use a halyard that passes through a sheave in the masthead. Don't 
trust a block held onto a tang with a shackle.

Jim Hesketh
Whisper
Coconut Grove, FL

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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Ed dooley via CnC-List

I unstep and step the mast on my 24 with 2 people and my homemade a-frame gin 
pole. We use the same gin pole to step and unstep my friend's Morgan 25.
Ed

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 9:56 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:
>  
> ...Btw. On my old 24 the mast was like a tree trunk. I would not attempt to 
> step it or unstep it with 3 people (I am not that strong); I’d rather climb 
> it. But again, YMMV.
>  
> Marek
> Ex. 1974 C 24
> 1994 C270 Legato
> Ottawa, ON
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of James Hesketh via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:30:52 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: James Hesketh
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  ALAN wrote:
>> If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to 
>> your climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard. 
>> Don't let anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at 
>> the top, just in case you drop something. A friend of  mine ;loaned me his 
>> half inch drill, and a bit that fit in the winch. It didn't take me long to 
>> hoist one of my crew to the top of the mast, electrically.
> 
>  
> Also, always use a halyard that passes through a sheave in the masthead. 
> Don't trust a block held onto a tang with a shackle.  
> 
> Jim Hesketh
> Whisper
> Coconut Grove, FL
> 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I’ll try them! Thank you Marek!C


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kits and I think have better prices.

  
 
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Ottawa, ON

  
 
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Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:41:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease Looks like the binnacle site crashed :/


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:21 PM, Chris Graham  wrote:

Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked 
about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to 
break it down and clean it all. 


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 wrote:

Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.
For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Try The Ottawa Chandlery or Marine Outfitters (Kingston). They both sell the 
kits and I think have better prices.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chris Graham via 
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Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:41:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Looks like the binnacle site crashed :/


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iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:21 PM, Chris Graham  wrote:

Thanks Dennis!!!
I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked about as well as 
the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to break it down and 
clean it all.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for 
iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:01 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.

For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List


 I'll second the ATN mast climber. It works well enough once you get the hang 
of it but unless you are fairly athletic, be prepared to make rest stops. It is 
more of an upper body workout than it appears in the video. 

Steve Thomas 

 "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List"  wrote: 
If you plan to routinely climb solo, you may want to invest in an ATN mast 
climbing bosun’s chair.

From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Irvin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

That boat - easier to take the mast down.


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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

I was never a fan of either being hoisted or hoisting some up the mast. This is 
really hard work for the person on the winch. I like the electric winch 
hoisting even less, but YMMV.

I also believe that any “climbing” gear is much better than similar “sailing” 
gear, so I would prefer a climbing harness with ascenders over the ATN mast 
climbing solution. But I may be biased by personal experience.

Potentially, a climbing solution requires that one knows how to use it (it is a 
“do it yourself” kit vs. a ready to use kit (like ATN)).

Btw. On my old 24 the mast was like a tree trunk. I would not attempt to step 
it or unstep it with 3 people (I am not that strong); I’d rather climb it. But 
again, YMMV.

Marek
Ex. 1974 C 24
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast




 ALAN wrote:
If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to your 
climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard. Don't let 
anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at the top, just 
in case you drop something. A friend of  mine ;loaned me his half inch drill, 
and a bit that fit in the winch. It didn't take me long to hoist one of my crew 
to the top of the mast, electrically.


Also, always use a halyard that passes through a sheave in the masthead. Don't 
trust a block held onto a tang with a shackle.

Jim Hesketh
Whisper
Coconut Grove, FL

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Looks like the binnacle site crashed :/


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:21 PM, Chris Graham  wrote:

Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked 
about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to 
break it down and clean it all. 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:01 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.
For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, 
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Stus-List Interior

2018-11-04 Thread Pat via CnC-List

Hello,

 New owner here of a C 34 with my husband Rob, in Dartmouth, Massachusetts.


Does anyone have suggestions for replacing and/or recovering the interior 
cushions?  Where to get it done, prices, fabric preferences, color preferences, 
any Photos?  Not do it yourself, thank you.

Pat



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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread James Hesketh via CnC-List

 ALAN wrote:

> If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to
> your climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard.
> Don't let anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at
> the top, just in case you drop something. A friend of  mine ;loaned me his
> half inch drill, and a bit that fit in the winch. It didn't take me long to
> hoist one of my crew to the top of the mast, electrically.
>

Also, always use a halyard that passes through a sheave in the masthead.
Don't trust a block held onto a tang with a shackle.

Jim Hesketh
Whisper
Coconut Grove, FL
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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List

I had a 24 years ago . Three men can drop and raise the mast by hand . I also 
have a ladder called a Mast Mate . It’s made from webbing and has sail slugs to 
help raise it up . I have used that to go aloft on my 24 several times 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness.
>  
> If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing it 
> solo you need the third.
>  
> Make sure that your halyards are in good shape. This step is CRITICAL.
>  
> Climb on one halyard; preferably, tied very tight to the bottom of the mast. 
> Pre-stretch it as much as you can (winch). Have the helper belay you (keep 
> the line almost tight) on another halyard. If you do it solo, use the 3rd 
> ascender to secure you to the second halyard.
>  
> Take a few loops of some good webbing or even some line with you. You want to 
> be able to secure yourself to the top of the mast. Also, you can use a loop 
> to make “stirrups” for your feet, for when you work at the top.
>  
> I would not recommend doing it alone.
>  
> Never use a single or unknown line to climb the mast!!!
>  
> Btw. The weight limitation is only for you (not the mast). If you can do it, 
> the mast would take it.
>  
> Make sure that you have ALL tools you might need up there.
>  
> Take a length of cord (30’) to use to get you any tool you forgot or dropped.
>  
> Make sure that you don't drop anything (short cords attached to each tool)
>  
> Good luck
>  
> Marek
> Ottawa, ON
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Sidney King via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:27:28 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Sidney King
> Subject: Stus-List Climbing the mast
>  
> Hello
> 
> I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio.
> 
> Looking for advice on how to accomplish this.
> 
> I have a 1980 c 24ft sailboat.
> 
> Is there a weight limit to climb the mast?
> 
> What kind climbing gear to use?
> 
> Thank you
> 
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2018-11-04 Thread rick bushie via CnC-List

For the last few days I’ve been receiving individual messages instead of the 
digest.  Is this possibly a result of forgetting to change out a subject line?  
I did apologize as soon as I realized what I had done.  I’ll apologize again if 
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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List

If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to
your climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard.
Don't let anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at
the top, just in case you drop something. A friend of  mine ;loaned me his
half inch drill, and a bit that fit in the winch. It didn't take me long to
hoist one of my crew to the top of the mast, electrically.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
>
> Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness.
>
>
>
> If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing
> it solo you need the third.
>
>
>
> Make sure that your halyards are in good shape. This step is CRITICAL.
>
>
>
> Climb on one halyard; preferably, tied very tight to the bottom of the
> mast. Pre-stretch it as much as you can (winch). Have the helper belay you
> (keep the line almost tight) on another halyard. If you do it solo, use the
> 3rd ascender to secure you to the second halyard.
>
>
>
> Take a few loops of some good webbing or even some line with you. You want
> to be able to secure yourself to the top of the mast. Also, you can use a
> loop to make “stirrups” for your feet, for when you work at the top.
>
>
>
> I would not recommend doing it alone.
>
>
>
> Never use a single or unknown line to climb the mast!!!
>
>
>
> Btw. The weight limitation is only for you (not the mast). If you can do
> it, the mast would take it.
>
>
>
> Make sure that you have ALL tools you might need up there.
>
>
>
> Take a length of cord (30’) to use to get you any tool you forgot or
> dropped.
>
>
>
> Make sure that you don't drop anything (short cords attached to each tool)
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail
> 
> for Windows 10
>
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Sidney King
> via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:27:28 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Sidney King
> *Subject:* Stus-List Climbing the mast
>
> Hello
>
> I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio.
>
> Looking for advice on how to accomplish this.
>
> I have a 1980 c 24ft sailboat.
>
> Is there a weight limit to climb the mast?
>
> What kind climbing gear to use?
>
> Thank you
>
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Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked 
about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to 
break it down and clean it all. 


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Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.
For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I’ll look for some 


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 wrote:

I think I got some at Home Depot.  I use it for turnbuckles. From: Chris Graham 
via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:00 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease Wow Josh, that’s 
ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you find it?


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 wrote:

   I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try 
to get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the standout 
results.    13 greases tested.   Between the official winch greases, Andersen, 
Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar was the given the "best choice" star.    Using 
Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green Grease 
was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and static 
corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared only with 
Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one else).  Green 
grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.   
https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html
   Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk  1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD     On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 
PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List"  wrote:
 
  I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive 
and I’d have to order it.    Chris 

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This is awesome! Thanks :)


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This is the home page.  It says you can buy it online or at PepBoys, NAPA, 
AutoZone... And a few others.
https://www.greengrease.net
Josh 

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This is great information thanks so much Josh!Chris


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As promised. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List

Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing
out of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.

For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff,
mineral spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease
and oil.  Never had any complaints.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List

Thanks Chuck.  How about we just have a beer - or a rum drink :)

I think I’ll go the tent route, not the shrink wrap / canvas cover route.

Cheers,
Randy

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>  wrote:
> 
> Shrink wrap to the toe rail and no lower.  Found out the hard way with my 
> first boat painted Mauritius Blue Perfection.  Lots of blistering under the 
> shrink wrap.  Especially if Grenadine was recently painted and is still out 
> gassing.  I’ll be out in Colorado over Thanksgiving and maybe can break away 
> from family to give you a hand..
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V Half Magic 
> 1983 LF 35
> Padanaram MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers-
>> 
>> Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
>> shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to shrink-wrap 
>> Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to damage her paint job.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C 30-1 #7
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2018-11-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List

I think I got some at Home Depot.  I use it for turnbuckles.

From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Wow Josh, that’s ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you 
find it?

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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:44 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try to 
get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the standout 
results.  

  13 greases tested.

  Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar was 
the given the "best choice" star. 

  Using Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green 
Grease was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and static 
corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared only with 
Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one else).  Green 
grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.

  https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk 
  1989 C 37+
  Solomons, MD 

  On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List"  
wrote:

I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive 
and I’d have to order it.  

Chris 

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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List

If you plan to routinely climb solo, you may want to invest in an ATN mast 
climbing bosun’s chair.

From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Irvin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

That boat - easier to take the mast down.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  
wrote:

  Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness.

  If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing it 
solo you need the third. 

  Make sure that your halyards are in good shape. This step is CRITICAL.

  Climb on one halyard; preferably, tied very tight to the bottom of the mast. 
Pre-stretch it as much as you can (winch). Have the helper belay you (keep the 
line almost tight) on another halyard. If you do it solo, use the 3rd ascender 
to secure you to the second halyard.

  Take a few loops of some good webbing or even some line with you. You want to 
be able to secure yourself to the top of the mast. Also, you can use a loop to 
make “stirrups” for your feet, for when you work at the top.

  I would not recommend doing it alone.

  Never use a single or unknown line to climb the mast!!!

  Btw. The weight limitation is only for you (not the mast). If you can do it, 
the mast would take it.

  Make sure that you have ALL tools you might need up there.

  Take a length of cord (30’) to use to get you any tool you forgot or dropped.

  Make sure that you don't drop anything (short cords attached to each tool)

  Good luck

  Marek

  Ottawa, ON

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  Cc: Sidney King
  Subject: Stus-List Climbing the mast 

  Hello

  I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio.

  Looking for advice on how to accomplish this.

  I have a 1980 c 24ft sailboat.

  Is there a weight limit to climb the mast?

  What kind climbing gear to use?

  Thank you

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List


 
  
   SuperLube is what the Anderson which company uses...it's synthetic, temperature stable and safe with plastic.
   
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread schiller via CnC-List

I think a lot depends on a salt water or fresh water environment.  We 
are in fresh water.  I cleaned and lubed my primaries (Barlow 26) on 
Corsair (1970 Redwing 35) after about 30 years of service.  The aft 
winches were a little dry, the forwards were just fine.  Our new boat 
will get winches done this spring (Barient 18, 22 and 27), .  One of the 
cabin top winches is toast, the rest seem to be servicable.


 Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 11/4/2018 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:


I am with Dwight on this. Maybe 15 years is a bit of a stretch, but I 
did my winches last spring and I bet this was their first time in 24 
years, maybe second. They still were working fine (before cleaning and 
greasing). My winches are Lewmar.


I don’t believe that the winches run in such a demanding environment.

I am not saying that we should not do the maintenance, but I think 
that we have a few systems on our boats that require more love and 
care more regularly.


Did anyone notice any deterioration in performance or grease condition 
after 6-12 months of use?


Marek (doubting Thomas)

1994 c270 “Legato”

Ottawa, ON

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*From:* CnC-List  on behalf of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List 

*Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:04:28 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* dwight veinot
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease
You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not 
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 
years and they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I 
used Harken white winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin 
smooth and sounding good. Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches


On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.

I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me
back. After
a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended
looking
at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got
the Extreme
version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized
grease
gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.

After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I
have previously
tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I
would rebuild the
primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to
check and maybe
add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it
looked good, better
than they usually would look mid season.

There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is
a specific version.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
From: Chris Graham mailto:sabre28...@yahoo.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
Message-ID: <63525769.358141.1541295913...@mail.yahoo.com
>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was
wondering if there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The
Lewmar grease seems expensive and I?d have to order it.?
Chris?

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2018-11-04 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List

That boat - easier to take the mast down.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:




Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness.



If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing it 
solo you need the third.



Make sure that your halyards are in good shape. This step is CRITICAL.



Climb on one halyard; preferably, tied very tight to the bottom of the mast. 
Pre-stretch it as much as you can (winch). Have the helper belay you (keep the 
line almost tight) on another halyard. If you do it solo, use the 3rd ascender 
to secure you to the second halyard.



Take a few loops of some good webbing or even some line with you. You want to 
be able to secure yourself to the top of the mast. Also, you can use a loop to 
make “stirrups” for your feet, for when you work at the top.



I would not recommend doing it alone.



Never use a single or unknown line to climb the mast!!!



Btw. The weight limitation is only for you (not the mast). If you can do it, 
the mast would take it.



Make sure that you have ALL tools you might need up there.



Take a length of cord (30’) to use to get you any tool you forgot or dropped.



Make sure that you don't drop anything (short cords attached to each tool)



Good luck



Marek

Ottawa, ON



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Cc: Sidney King
Subject: Stus-List Climbing the mast

Hello

I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio.

Looking for advice on how to accomplish this.

I have a 1980 c 24ft sailboat.

Is there a weight limit to climb the mast?

What kind climbing gear to use?

Thank you

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This is the home page.  It says you can buy it online or at PepBoys, NAPA,
AutoZone... And a few others.

https://www.greengrease.net

Josh


On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 4:03 PM Chris Graham via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This is great information thanks so much Josh!
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 12:02 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> As promised.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Josh
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 9:46 PM Chris Graham via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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This is great information thanks so much Josh!Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


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As promised. 
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Great, thank you Michael; I appreciate it!Chris 


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 wrote:

A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.At low 
speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.
I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. Aftera 
discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended lookingat the 
Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extremeversion 
which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized greasegun tube. I 
would expect it to be a lifetime supply.
After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have 
previouslytried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would 
rebuild theprimary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check 
and maybeadd some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked 
good, betterthan they usually would look mid season.
There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a specific 
version.
Michael BrownWindburnC 30-1


Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
From: Chris Graham 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
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I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I?d have to order it.?
Chris?

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Wow Josh, that’s ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you 
find it?


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:44 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
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I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try to 
get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the standout 
results. 
13 greases tested.
Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar was 
the given the "best choice" star. 
Using Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green 
Grease was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and static 
corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared only with 
Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one else).  Green 
grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.
https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html

Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD 
On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List"  
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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 
Chris 

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Too late for those who already did it, but a good tip is to use an old shoe box 
with a hole through which the witch can go. This way any small parts (e.g. 
pawls) cannot jump into the water (they do have that propensity).

Marek


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I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I 
keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

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From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!

Chris


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
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There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.



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Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.



A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.



Marek

Ottawa, ON



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I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.



Bill Bruce
Landfall 38

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Acetone works, as well. Be careful where you do it, it does dissolve various 
things (e.g. garnish on any wood).

Marek

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I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I 
keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

 Original message 
From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!

Chris


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.



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Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.



A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.



Marek

Ottawa, ON



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I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.



Bill Bruce
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I am with Dwight on this. Maybe 15 years is a bit of a stretch, but I did my 
winches last spring and I bet this was their first time in 24 years, maybe 
second. They still were working fine (before cleaning and greasing). My winches 
are Lewmar.

I don’t believe that the winches run in such a demanding environment.

I am not saying that we should not do the maintenance, but I think that we have 
a few systems on our boats that require more love and care more regularly.

Did anyone notice any deterioration in performance or grease condition after 
6-12 months of use?

Marek (doubting Thomas)
1994 c270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON



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You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not 
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 years and 
they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I used Harken white 
winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin smooth and sounding good. 
Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.

I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. After
a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking
at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extreme
version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized grease
gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.

After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have previously
tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would rebuild the
primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check and maybe
add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked good, 
better
than they usually would look mid season.

There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a specific 
version.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
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I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I?d have to order it.?
Chris?
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Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast



Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness.



If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing it 
solo you need the third.



Make sure that your halyards are in good shape. This step is CRITICAL.



Climb on one halyard; preferably, tied very tight to the bottom of the mast. 
Pre-stretch it as much as you can (winch). Have the helper belay you (keep the 
line almost tight) on another halyard. If you do it solo, use the 3rd ascender 
to secure you to the second halyard.



Take a few loops of some good webbing or even some line with you. You want to 
be able to secure yourself to the top of the mast. Also, you can use a loop to 
make “stirrups” for your feet, for when you work at the top.



I would not recommend doing it alone.



Never use a single or unknown line to climb the mast!!!



Btw. The weight limitation is only for you (not the mast). If you can do it, 
the mast would take it.



Make sure that you have ALL tools you might need up there.



Take a length of cord (30’) to use to get you any tool you forgot or dropped.



Make sure that you don't drop anything (short cords attached to each tool)



Good luck



Marek

Ottawa, ON



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Subject: Stus-List Climbing the mast

Hello

I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio.

Looking for advice on how to accomplish this.

I have a 1980 c 24ft sailboat.

Is there a weight limit to climb the mast?

What kind climbing gear to use?

Thank you

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List

You da Man Josh
i have yet to open / service a winch since i have owned Halcyon, and by the
shape of many unused items on the boat doubt they have been touched in last 3
years. Will add it to my spring to do list.
i pay to sail all winter when weather allows :)

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
www.flirtingwithfire.net

On Nov 4, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

As promised.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and
I’d have to order it.

Chris

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Re: Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List

Shrink wrap to the toe rail and no lower.  Found out the hard way with my first 
boat painted Mauritius Blue Perfection.  Lots of blistering under the shrink 
wrap.  Especially if Grenadine was recently painted and is still out gassing.  
I’ll be out in Colorado over Thanksgiving and maybe can break away from family 
to give you a hand..
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic 
1983 LF 35
Padanaram MA

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
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> 
> Listers-
> 
> Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
> shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to shrink-wrap 
> Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to damage her paint job.
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List

Superlube for grease as it isn’t petroleum based and won’t damage nylon caged 
needle bearings.  I like Dri-Slide for lubricating pawls etc since it won’t 
attract dirt.
Chuck Gilchrest 
Half Magic
1983 LF 35
Padanaram MA

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
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> Lubriplate, maybe mixed with a little marvel mystery oil.
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI 
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> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 21:45, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
>> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems 
>> expensive and I’d have to order it. 
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
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Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Sidney King via CnC-List

Hello

I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio.

Looking for advice on how to accomplish this.

I have a 1980 c 24ft sailboat.

Is there a weight limit to climb the mast?

What kind climbing gear to use?

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2018-11-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List

You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 years
and they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I used
Harken white winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin smooth and
sounding good. Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
> At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.
>
> I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back.
> After
> a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking
> at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extreme
> version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized grease
> gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.
>
> After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have
> previously
> tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would
> rebuild the
> primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check and
> maybe
> add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked
> good, better
> than they usually would look mid season.
>
> There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a
> specific version.
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
>
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
> From: Chris Graham 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
> Message-ID: <63525769.358141.1541295913...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I?d have to order it.?
> Chris?
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

As promised.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List


A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.


I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. After
a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking
at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extreme
version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized grease
gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.


After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have previously
tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would rebuild the
primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check and maybe
add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked good, 
better
than they usually would look mid season.


There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a specific 
version.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC) 
From: Chris Graham  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease 
Message-ID: <63525769.358141.1541295913...@mail.yahoo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
 
I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I?d have to order it.? 
Chris? 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try
to get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the
standout results.

13 greases tested.

Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar
was the given the "best choice" star.

Using Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green
Grease was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and
static corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared
only with Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one
else).  Green grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.

https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
expensive and I’d have to order it.

Chris

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Brakekleen is awesome.  As I understand it the non-chlorinated version is
to ensure that the chemicals don't destroy the plastic and rubber
partschoose wisely.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



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> I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak
> time. I keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> LH39
> Port Orchard YC wa.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Chris Graham 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
>
> Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8
> anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing.
> Took me almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had
> developed!! What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if
> you have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably
> cheaper.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
>
> Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for
> lubricating the head pump, as well.
>
>
>
> A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily
> available in any h/w store S of the border.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Graham via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chris Graham 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease
>
>
>
> I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size
> cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch
> company uses at the factory.
>
>
>
> Bill Bruce
> Landfall 38
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread svrebeccaleah via CnC-List

I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I 
keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.


Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LH39Port Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18  05:49  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now! 
Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:There is a very similar teflon based grease used 
for pool valves, and if you have a pool store near you it will be easier to 
find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18  8:35 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well. 
   
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border. 
   
Marek 
Ottawa, ON 
   


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On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List

Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Chris Graham 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease 


   
I’ve never heard of it! Good price! 

Chris





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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote: 




I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.
 


   


Bill Bruce 

Landfall 38  




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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread schiller via CnC-List

It might be a good time to remind what grease is.  It is a lubricating 
oil, a thickener and additives.  The oils will be petroleum based or 
synthetic.  The thickeners range from soaps (aluminum, lithium or 
calcium based), clay (think kitty litter), or polyureas.  The additives 
are for rust/oxidation, extreme pressure, friction/lubricity, etc.


The most common grease we used in precision guided weapons was synthetic 
oil based with clay thickeners (Mobil 28, Aeroshell 22, MIL-PRF-81322).  
This grease had a storage life of 10 years before the oil would migrate 
out and leave the clay sludge.  For 30 year storage life requirements, 
we used perfluourinated greases (Braycote 601EF).


It appears that the Lewmar Winch grease is a calcium soap based 
synthetic.  I have used several tubes of it through the years and it is 
good grease.  $60/pound for Lewmar vs. $3,200/lb for Braycote makes the 
decision on winches an easier decision.


The best advice is to make sure your winches get used to keep the oil 
mixed in.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 11/4/2018 9:09 AM, Don Wagner via CnC-List wrote:
I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based 
grease since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while.

Don Wagner
Der Baron
C 41 CB
*From:* Chris Graham via CnC-List
*Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Chris Graham
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease
Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 
8 anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly 
servicing. Took me almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard 
varnish that had developed!! What a mess. They look and feel brand new 
now!

Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 

On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:


There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves,
and if you have a pool store near you it will be easier to find
and probably cheaper.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message 
From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for
lubricating the head pump, as well.

A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order).
Readily available in any h/w store S of the border.

Marek

Ottawa, ON

*From:*CnC-List  *On Behalf Of
*Chris Graham via CnC-List
*Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Chris Graham 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone



On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List
 wrote:

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn
full size cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is
what the Anderson winch company uses at the factory.

Bill Bruce
Landfall 38

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Thanks Don!


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 9:09 AM, Don Wagner via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based grease 
since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while. Don Wagner Der BaronC 
41 CB  From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 
AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch 
grease Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!   Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

   There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.      
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone      Original message 
 From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List   Date: 
11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease     
Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
 
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
 
 
Marek
 
Ottawa, ON
 
 
   
From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
 
 
 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
  
Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
 
On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory. 
  

  
Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 
  
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

They wanted $18 for shipping for the kit!! So, I think I’m just going to order 
them separately online


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:49 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now! 
Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
  
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
  
 
Marek
 
Ottawa, ON
 
  
 
From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
 
  
 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
 
Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
 
On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.
 
  
 
Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 
 
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

2018-11-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List

FYI, I posted earlier, even though I worked for the parent company that
made Fram filters, I wouldn't buy them.  However, just for clarity, like
many filter manufacturers, Fram makes a couple lines of filters.  The
standard line, which is found in many big box stores, isn't highly rated.

Fram's premium lines, have more respect.  Their Extra Guard line is well
regarded by some.

This is true of most filter lines.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Don Wagner via CnC-List

I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based grease 
since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while.

Don Wagner 
Der Baron
C 41 CB


From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!  

Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.



  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   Original message 
  From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  
  Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Marek Dziedzic  
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease 

  Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.



  A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.



  Marek

  Ottawa, ON



  From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Chris Graham 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease



  I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

  Chris


  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

  On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size 
cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch 
company uses at the factory. 


Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now! 
Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
  
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
  
 
Marek
 
Ottawa, ON
 
  
 
From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
 
  
 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
 
Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
 
On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.
 
  
 
Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 
 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List

There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18  8:35 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
Marek
Ottawa, ON
 


From: CnC-List 
On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List

Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Chris Graham 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease


 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris





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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:




I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.



  


Bill Bruce 

Landfall 38 




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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.

A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
Chris


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iPhone

On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.

Bill Bruce
Landfall 38
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Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread robert via CnC-List


FYI.http://www.awlgrip.com/support-and-advice/topcoat-maintenance.aspx

Do not shrink wrap awlgrip!
Rob Abbott


On 2018-11-04 9:10 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote:
I think I read that boats that have been painted with Awlgrip should 
not have shrink wrap around the topsides.bring the plastic down to 
the toe rail.  I think the Awlgrip site addresses this.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-11-03 4:52 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:

Listers-

Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to 
shrink-wrap Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to 
damage her paint job.


Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread robert via CnC-List

I think I read that boats that have been painted with Awlgrip should not 
have shrink wrap around the topsides.bring the plastic down to the 
toe rail.  I think the Awlgrip site addresses this.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-11-03 4:52 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:

Listers-

Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to shrink-wrap 
Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to damage her paint job.

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

2018-11-04 Thread robert via CnC-List

I use NAPA's 1064 Gold Oil Filter on my Yanmar..any comments on the 
quality of this filter?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-11-03 2:19 PM, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List wrote:

I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.


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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List


 
  
   I use synthetic motor oil on pawls. Synthetics are more temperature stable
   
   Bill Bruce
   Landfall 38.  
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List

Ditto – I use 10-30W oil sparingly on pawls.  I find the grease only 
occasionally needs more added each year

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

 

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I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my boat 
every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.  




Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 

 

Chris 

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