Stus-List Re: windlass battery under vee-berth

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Perry

You are going through the same thought process I did a few years ago.  At the 
time I decided not to go that route for the issues you mentioned plus I didn’t 
want the weight. I had an opportunity to get welding cable and used that for 
wiring a 1500w windless.  It’s braided but not tinned. I tinned the ends before 
installing the lugs.  Wire is over 1/2” not including insulation.  Harbour 
freight or Princess auto would be a good source for the cable.

Mike

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> As I prepare to mount a new windlass on my ‘85 37, I intend to install a new 
> AGM 12v on the centerline just aft of the holding tank. There is plenty of 
> room here for a battery platform and accessibility is fair. I’ve done my 
> homework on voltage drop, cable size, etc. but if you have specific 
> experience on a 37 with a fwd-mounted battery, I’m mostly ears.
> 
> My question relates to ventilation. The under-berth space is fairly large, 
> but I know AGMs need to gas and I don’t want to create a hazard. Any 
> suggestions for adding an adequate vent to this area?
> 
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Stus-List Fwd: Broken pin in electronic connector

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Mike

I literally just did this.  My granddaughter broke off the pin for her earbuds 
in the headphone socket on her Kindle.  There are lots of videos on YouTube.  
In the end I was able to pop it out with a sharp object (map pin) and lots of 
persistence (pun intended)

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" 
> Date: June 25, 2020 at 8:21:06 AM EDT
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc: "Hoyt, Mike" 
> Subject: Stus-List Broken pin in electronic connector
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> Hoping to draw from the practical knowledge of this list.
>  
> Last evening when plugging in RAM mic for first time this season we found 
> that one of the pins on the male receptacle had broken off and is now stuck 
> in side the female end that is on the RAM mic itself.  The RAM mic works 
> perfectly (or did before this) and all that needs to be replaced is the male 
> socket that is attached to the hull.
>  
> The question is “How do I get the broken pin out of the female socket?”
>  
> I feel the male socket will be quite affordable and the RAM mic would be 
> quite expensive.  I would rather not have to replace the RAM mic itself
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Mike Hoyt
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
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Stus-List Windlass

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

For those that requested pictures of my windlass install see the link below.  
Sorry about quality and possible duplicates.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x3Kr4gCt1hJ41oOJVzwBrXTkehMLYrJ3?usp=sharing

Open to questions and/or criticism.

Mike
Persuasion
’37 K/CB


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Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Anchor Windlass - 37+

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Edd

I thought I had the windless install documented but alas I cannot find any 
pictures.  I am going to boat today or tomorrow and I’ll take some pics then.

Stand by

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Edd Schillay 
> Date: June 3, 2020 at 7:38:41 AM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Anchor Windlass - 37+
> 
> Mike,
> 
> That would be great. Thanks!
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ———-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ———-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ———-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Edd
> 
> If you want some pictures of an install of a vertical windlass with a capstan 
> let me know I’ll shoot you some pics.  Have to cut a hole in locker lid for 
> capstan.  I’ve used it to send daughters and son in-laws up the mast.
> 
> Mike
> Persuasion
> 37’ K/CB
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>> Date: June 2, 2020 at 2:49:21 PM EDT
>> To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>> Cc: Edd Schillay 
>> Subject: Stus-List Anchor Windlass - 37+
>> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> Long ago, in the beforetime, there was a posting by a C’er who installed a 
>> shelf and windless inside his anchor locker - and I think it was on a 37+, 
>> though not positive about the boat. 
>> 
>> Would love to see photos and info about installation, materials and windless 
>> used. 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> 
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>> 
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Fwd: Anchor Windlass - 37+

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Edd

If you want some pictures of an install of a vertical windlass with a capstan 
let me know I’ll shoot you some pics.  Have to cut a hole in locker lid for 
capstan.  I’ve used it to send daughters and son in-laws up the mast.

Mike
Persuasion
37’ K/CB


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date: June 2, 2020 at 2:49:21 PM EDT
> To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Stus-List Anchor Windlass - 37+
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Long ago, in the beforetime, there was a posting by a C’er who installed a 
> shelf and windless inside his anchor locker - and I think it was on a 37+, 
> though not positive about the boat. 
> 
> Would love to see photos and info about installation, materials and windless 
> used. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Fwd: Source for long stainless/brass screws

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Did you try Brafasco on TerryFox.

Mike


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> From: David Morris via CnC-List 
> Date: May 22, 2020 at 9:14:51 PM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: djmor...@djma-ltd.com
> Subject: Stus-List Source for long stainless/brass screws
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> I’m having difficulty finding a supplier of the 6” screws - preferably 
> stainless, but will settle for brass - to re-install the interior and 
> exterior handrails on our C 30 MKI. I’m not sure if they are a no. 10 or 
> 12. Recommendations would be much appreciated, preferably in Canada.
>  
> David J. Morris, MBA
> President, D.J. Morris & Associates Ltd.
> 24 St. Paul’s Place, Kingston, ON  K7M 7S3
> Tel. 613-531-4429
> email: djmor...@djma-ltd.com
> Member: Canadian Freelance Guild
> Blogging at: http://davidmorrisjourneys.wordpress.com/
>  
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Stus-List Fwd: Fuel Transfer Pump

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

I’ve been using a drill pump for over 10 years.  Works great.  Can also 
transfer while moving.  Also sucks all but about a tsp. from the jerry can.

Mike
Begin forwarded message:

> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date: May 16, 2020 at 1:59:45 PM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Stus-List Fuel Transfer Pump
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Listers,
> 
> A friend just sent me an ad for a battery-operated fuel pump for transferring 
> fuel from a jerry can to the Enterprise’s fuel tank. 
> 
> Currently, I’m pouring from the jerry can directly into the tank, but there 
> is always some spillage and cleanup. 
> 
> This looks like a nifty solution, but I wonder if it falls into the 
> too-good-to-be-true category. 
> 
> Anyone here use one of these? Pros? Cons? 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ———-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ———-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ———-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
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Stus-List Fwd: Marinas in Md, Covid-19

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Here in the Great White North our club has made the decision to delay 
everything by one month.  All buildings are off limits.  We may check our boats 
but working on them is discouraged.  That means launch will be June 5th.  
Hoping we get a week or so to prep our boats prior to launch.

Mike
Persuasion 
C 37K/CB


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> From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
> Date: March 28, 2020 at 4:49:29 PM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Shawn Wright 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Marinas in Md, Covid-19
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> Our club's latest update requests that we avoid using the foreshore workshops 
> unless it's an emergency, and the mast crane is off limits. As of last week, 
> I have been using the head on the boat exclusively, and the one time I used 
> the metal shop prior to the update, I brought my own safety gear, and touched 
> only the bench grinder; from now on I will just bring things home to work on. 
> 
> The shared washrooms likely remain the biggest risk in most facilities. I was 
> able to book a survey for early May when my insurance renews, so I now have a 
> deadline to get everything back together. The insurance company would have 
> given me an extra 6 months on the survey, but at a 10% surcharge on the 
> insurance. Since I was afraid this 10% would just become part of the rate for 
> the following years, I chose to find a surveyor who could do it sooner. 
> 
> Now I just need to stop taking things apart (it has become a bit of an 
> obsession...), and begin putting them back together again... :)
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 9:15 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hey,
>> Good news!  After seeing the earlier email from Bill Coleman, I called Bert 
>> Jabin's boatyard and they told me their yard is open to owners to work on 
>> their boats, "Come on down, just use social distancing and common sense."
>> 
>> I then called my yard in Pasadena and shared that info.  Bert Jabin's is 
>> probably the biggest yard in the area with the most expensive boats.  My 
>> marina guy said he knew about it, though I doubt it, and said they were 
>> discussing the change and would notify me after their meeting.  I expect 
>> they will free up the restriction and though I missed three really good days 
>> for epoxy work, I'll be happy to get back to finishing my projects.
>> 
>> Chuck S
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Fwd: FW: Fwd: Rain water collection

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Richard

That is correct.  If memory serves me I set the price was on a 77 cent dollar 
now our dollar is below 70 cents.

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
> Date: March 23, 2020 at 1:09:30 PM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard Bush 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List FW:  Fwd:  Rain water collection
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> Mike; thanks glad to hear you're doing OK; is the difference in prices due 
> the differing values in the currency?
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2020 12:53 pm
> Subject: Stus-List FW: Fwd: Rain water collection
> 
> Hi Richard
>  
> Yes I’m still alive and well and still lurking on this list.  Persuasion is 
> still for sale although in this current environment it will certainly be 
> difficult.  We are thinking of lowering our US asking price as the Canadian 
> dollar has tanked.
>  
> Mike
>  
> PS:  If anyone is interested in the possibly new US price please contact me 
> off list.  The Canadian price has not changed.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Richard Bush
> Sent: March 23, 2020 9:48 AM
> Cc: persuasio...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Rain water collection
>  
> Mike: I was happy to see your still on the list; have you sold your 37 yet? 
> if not what are your plans? If yes, what are your plans? thanks
>  
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
>  
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Sent: Sun, Mar 22, 2020 5:25 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Fwd: Rain water collection
> Hi Will
>  
> For my rain water collection I tied into the scupper next to the toe rail on 
> the deck.  Used a tee and two shut off valves.  One side goes to the original 
> drain and the other I put a hose barb on.  Let it rain for a few minutes 
> attach a hose and then switch valve positions.  Your deck may not have 
> scuppers like on the 37’.   In the past I’ve used the canvas between the 
> dodger and bimini.  I just unzipped it about half way and placed a bucket at 
> the end of the flap.  More work and wetter.
> 
> Mike
> C 37 K/CB
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List 
> Date: March 22, 2020 at 4:48:28 PM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Will Gerstmyer 
> Subject: Stus-List Rain water collection
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Hi
> Love all the great responses of this forum—thanks all!
> Has anybody rigged up a rainwater collector? I’m not real sure about using 
> the sails with all the crap in the air, but I’m happy to use a purpose-built 
> plastic sheet tied to boom or mast or outrigger and funneled unto one of the 
> water intakes on deck. 
> Always trying to be a little more self sufficient since I’m a live aboard. 
> Cheers, Will 
> 1986 C 41 Costume Change
> 
> Will Gerstmyer 
> 978-609-1331
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Stus-List FW: Fwd: Rain water collection

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Richard

Yes I’m still alive and well and still lurking on this list.  Persuasion is 
still for sale although in this current environment it will certainly be 
difficult.  We are thinking of lowering our US asking price as the Canadian 
dollar has tanked.

Mike

PS:  If anyone is interested in the possibly new US price please contact me off 
list.  The Canadian price has not changed.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Richard Bush
Sent: March 23, 2020 9:48 AM
Cc: persuasio...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Rain water collection

Mike: I was happy to see your still on the list; have you sold your 37 yet? if 
not what are your plans? If yes, what are your plans? thanks

Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Mike Taylor 
Sent: Sun, Mar 22, 2020 5:25 pm
Subject: Stus-List Fwd: Rain water collection
Hi Will

For my rain water collection I tied into the scupper next to the toe rail on 
the deck.  Used a tee and two shut off valves.  One side goes to the original 
drain and the other I put a hose barb on.  Let it rain for a few minutes attach 
a hose and then switch valve positions.  Your deck may not have scuppers like 
on the 37’.   In the past I’ve used the canvas between the dodger and bimini.  
I just unzipped it about half way and placed a bucket at the end of the flap.  
More work and wetter.

Mike
C 37 K/CB
Begin forwarded message:
From: Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List 
Date: March 22, 2020 at 4:48:28 PM EDT
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Will Gerstmyer 
Subject: Stus-List Rain water collection
Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Hi
Love all the great responses of this forum—thanks all!
Has anybody rigged up a rainwater collector? I’m not real sure about using the 
sails with all the crap in the air, but I’m happy to use a purpose-built 
plastic sheet tied to boom or mast or outrigger and funneled unto one of the 
water intakes on deck.
Always trying to be a little more self sufficient since I’m a live aboard.
Cheers, Will
1986 C 41 Costume Change

Will Gerstmyer
978-609-1331
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Stus-List Fwd: Rain water collection

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Will

For my rain water collection I tied into the scupper next to the toe rail on 
the deck.  Used a tee and two shut off valves.  One side goes to the original 
drain and the other I put a hose barb on.  Let it rain for a few minutes attach 
a hose and then switch valve positions.  Your deck may not have scuppers like 
on the 37’.   In the past I’ve used the canvas between the dodger and bimini.  
I just unzipped it about half way and placed a bucket at the end of the flap.  
More work and wetter.

Mike
C 37 K/CB
Begin forwarded message:

> From: Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List 
> Date: March 22, 2020 at 4:48:28 PM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Will Gerstmyer 
> Subject: Stus-List Rain water collection
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Hi
> Love all the great responses of this forum—thanks all!
> Has anybody rigged up a rainwater collector? I’m not real sure about using 
> the sails with all the crap in the air, but I’m happy to use a purpose-built 
> plastic sheet tied to boom or mast or outrigger and funneled unto one of the 
> water intakes on deck. 
> Always trying to be a little more self sufficient since I’m a live aboard. 
> Cheers, Will 
> 1986 C 41 Costume Change
> 
> Will Gerstmyer 
> 978-609-1331
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Re: Stus-List Coronavirus & Caution - The New C

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Everything at our club is cancelled until May 2nd.  Oh wait we shut down just 
after haul-out in Oct 

Mike

> On Mar 14, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Our club just closed the bar and clubhouse, and Sunday races are cancelled 
> for the next 3 weekends. Other local clubs are revoking reciprocals also, but 
> I haven't heard about regattas being cancelled yet. I suspect they will be.
> 
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 5:48 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I’m curious to know what your local clubs are doing in response to the 
>> COVID-19 pandemic. We have a regatta scheduled for April 4 and we are 
>> already discussing cancelling the skippers meeting and post-race festivities 
>> - perhaps cancelling the event altogether. 
>> 
>> What are you seeing in your areas? 
>> 
>> Hope everyone on the list remains safe. 
>> 
>> All the best, 
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> ———-
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
>> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>> www.StarshipSailing.com
>> ———-
>> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
>> ———-
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Stus-List Fwd: C 37 For Sale

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Dave

With aging knees and hips it’s getting difficult for the Admiral and me to 
enjoy sailing.

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Dave Godwin 
> Date: January 3, 2020 at 6:18:59 PM EST
> To: persuasio...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List C 37 For Sale
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I’ve always admired your 37’. Beautifully set up and maintained. Someday ours 
> will (almost) be as nice.
> 
> Trading up or moving away from sailing? No matter, good luck with your 
> endeavors.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>>  
>> It’s time to close another chapter in my life.  After much thought and tears 
>> I (we) have decided it’s time to part with Persuasion.  For more information 
>> please visit www.persuasion37.ca
>>  
>>  
>> Regards
>> Mike
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Stus-List Fwd: Stainless Anchors at Defender

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

John

I’ve been using a Delta Sureset 35 as my primary for well over 10 years now.  I 
can tell you it has held in 50 kt. winds.  My secondary is a Bruce 44 that 
hasn’t been out of the locker in years.

YMMV
Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
> Date: January 3, 2020 at 7:18:24 PM EST
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc: John Conklin 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Stainless Anchors at Defender
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
>  Wanted a Rocna or mantus for my 37. But may have to jump on this!
> How does the Delta compare  ?have an old Bruce now 
> Thanks 
> 
> John Conklin 
> S/V Halcyon
> S/V Heartbeat
> www.flirtingwithfire.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:35 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Still absurd.  $1220 seems a bit high for my budget.
>>> On January 3, 2020 at 4:29 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Someone was looking for an anchor recently on the list.  Defender has an 
>>> absurd price on scratched stainless steel delta anchors:
>>> https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C619045%7C1970771=6584140
>>> 
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Stus-List C 37 For Sale

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Folks

It’s time to close another chapter in my life.  After much thought and tears I 
(we) have decided it’s time to part with Persuasion.  For more information 
please visit www.persuasion37.ca


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Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Doug

Troy is a little to far upstream to take a mast down.  Most do it at Hop O Nose 
in Catskills or for the DIY Type at Castleton Boat Club.  All stop at the 
beautiful town of Waterford whether north or south bound.  We spent a month 
there this past spring waiting for the canals to open.  Thirty plus boats 
headed up either the Erie or Champlain

Mike
Begin forwarded message:

> From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List 
> Date: November 26, 2019 at 1:07:58 AM EST
> To: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Cc: Doug Robinson 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> FYI:  ATL (Andrews Truck Lines, Virgil Ontario).  Owners returning from the 
> south do unstep the mast at Troy, restep them at Oswego and sail Ontario to 
> the Welland.  Some continue on the raging Erie if under 12ft air draft on the 
> way west to bypass the Welland.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/25/19 9:53 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
>> When we were in Montreal I saw few boats. I was informed they are all over 
>> at Lake Champlain. We would have to go the wrong way up the Saint Lawrence 
>> to get to the Great Lakes, I cannot fit under the bridges on the Erie Canal. 
>> Your trip going to the Bahamas sounds like more the right direction! I often 
>> wonder how our boat got to the East Coast. Did C motor them down the Erie 
>> with the masts unstepped? Go all the way out the long way via the Saint 
>> Lawrence? Trucks?
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Taylor via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:33 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Mike Taylor 
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
>>  
>> Joe
>>  
>> I lived in Montreal for a while and made the trip from there to the Thousand 
>> Islands four times in a Tanzer 26 with a 9.9hp strapped to the transom.  The 
>> current is very strong in several places, up to 4 - 4.5 knots.  A times I 
>> thought I was go I get backwards.  I also went out the St. Lawrence in 2014 
>> on my way to the Bahamas. It’s easy to do 10 knots maybe more.  Did 13.1 
>> motor sailing with the current around Tadoussac.
>>  
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>> Date: November 25, 2019 at 8:56:28 AM EST
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Joe Della Barba 
>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
>> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> 
>> Next dumb question - assuming someone decides to lower Lake Ontario a bit, 
>> how well does that lower the other lakes, if at all?
>> 
>> It seems like too much flow could flood Montreal. Last time I was in 
>> Montreal the current headed east was pretty strong anyway, so I assume this 
>> really could effect slow boats headed upstream.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> On 11/25/2019 7:53 AM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List wrote:
>> Joe
>>  
>> The Moses-Saunders Power Dam ar Cornwall/Massena controls Lake Ontario and 
>> the out flow down stream.  There is a lot of controversy over the IJC Plan 
>> 2014.  The deciding factor is controlling the spring flooding at Montreal 
>> and depths for commercial traffic.  I’ve really simplified it, it is 
>> infinitely more complex.
>>  
>> IJC Plan 2014
>> https://legacyfiles.ijc.org/tinymce/uploaded/LOSLR/IJC_LOSR_EN_Web.pdf
>>  
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>> Date: November 25, 2019 at 6:52:39 AM EST
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C
>> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> 
>> This is maybe a really dumb question – is there a way to drain them?
>> Does anything control the amount of water that heads out to sea down the St. 
>> Lawrence Seaway, Erie Canal, and so on?
>>  
>> Joe
>> Coquina
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Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Matthew

I hope some has told all of the boaters using the defunct Erie Canal that 
they’ll have to find another way south or north depending the season.

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" 
> Date: November 25, 2019 at 9:58:38 AM EST
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" 
> Subject: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> It doesn’t.
>  
> Niagara Falls and the Welland Canal are the two main “exits” from Lake Erie.  
> As I understand it, much of the flow going down the Niagara River is diverted 
> for hydraulic power, and presumably there is more flow now going over the 
> falls due to the high lake level.  Obviously, it’s not draining fast enough.  
> The Welland is used for commercial freighter traffic and is consequently 
> well-controlled with locks.  It would likely be too disruptive to try to use 
> the Welland as a drain.  I believe the Erie Canal is largely defunct and was 
> also controlled with locks.  Even if you could direct water through what’s 
> left of that system, it would likely be overwhelmed before having much impact 
> on the lake level.
>  
> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:55 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Joe Della Barba
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
>  
> Next dumb question - assuming someone decides to lower Lake Ontario a bit, 
> how well does that lower the other lakes, if at all?
> 
> It seems like too much flow could flood Montreal. Last time I was in Montreal 
> the current headed east was pretty strong anyway, so I assume this really 
> could effect slow boats headed upstream.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> On 11/25/2019 7:53 AM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List wrote:
>> Joe
>>  
>> The Moses-Saunders Power Dam ar Cornwall/Massena controls Lake Ontario and 
>> the out flow down stream.  There is a lot of controversy over the IJC Plan 
>> 2014.  The deciding factor is controlling the spring flooding at Montreal 
>> and depths for commercial traffic.  I’ve really simplified it, it is 
>> infinitely more complex.
>>  
>> IJC Plan 2014
>> https://legacyfiles.ijc.org/tinymce/uploaded/LOSLR/IJC_LOSR_EN_Web.pdf
>>  
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Date: November 25, 2019 at 6:52:39 AM EST
>>> To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov
>>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C
>>> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is maybe a really dumb question – is there a way to drain them?
>>> Does anything control the amount of water that heads out to sea down the 
>>> St. Lawrence Seaway, Erie Canal, and so on?
>>>  
>>> Joe
>>> Coquina
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Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Joe

I lived in Montreal for a while and made the trip from there to the Thousand 
Islands four times in a Tanzer 26 with a 9.9hp strapped to the transom.  The 
current is very strong in several places, up to 4 - 4.5 knots.  A times I 
thought I was go I get backwards.  I also went out the St. Lawrence in 2014 on 
my way to the Bahamas. It’s easy to do 10 knots maybe more.  Did 13.1 motor 
sailing with the current around Tadoussac.

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> Date: November 25, 2019 at 8:56:28 AM EST
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Joe Della Barba 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> Next dumb question - assuming someone decides to lower Lake Ontario a bit, 
> how well does that lower the other lakes, if at all?
> 
> It seems like too much flow could flood Montreal. Last time I was in Montreal 
> the current headed east was pretty strong anyway, so I assume this really 
> could effect slow boats headed upstream.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> On 11/25/2019 7:53 AM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List wrote:
>> Joe
>> 
>> The Moses-Saunders Power Dam ar Cornwall/Massena controls Lake Ontario and 
>> the out flow down stream.  There is a lot of controversy over the IJC Plan 
>> 2014.  The deciding factor is controlling the spring flooding at Montreal 
>> and depths for commercial traffic.  I’ve really simplified it, it is 
>> infinitely more complex.
>> 
>> IJC Plan 2014
>> https://legacyfiles.ijc.org/tinymce/uploaded/LOSLR/IJC_LOSR_EN_Web.pdf
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>>> Date: November 25, 2019 at 6:52:39 AM EST
>>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>>> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
>>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C
>>> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is maybe a really dumb question – is there a way to drain them?
>>> Does anything control the amount of water that heads out to sea down the 
>>> St. Lawrence Seaway, Erie Canal, and so on?
>>>  
>>> Joe
>>> Coquina
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>>> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
>>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Fwd: Great Lakes water levels...for C

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Joe

The Moses-Saunders Power Dam ar Cornwall/Massena controls Lake Ontario and the 
out flow down stream.  There is a lot of controversy over the IJC Plan 2014.  
The deciding factor is controlling the spring flooding at Montreal and depths 
for commercial traffic.  I’ve really simplified it, it is infinitely more 
complex.

IJC Plan 2014
https://legacyfiles.ijc.org/tinymce/uploaded/LOSLR/IJC_LOSR_EN_Web.pdf

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Date: November 25, 2019 at 6:52:39 AM EST
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Great Lakes water levels...for C
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> This is maybe a really dumb question – is there a way to drain them?
> Does anything control the amount of water that heads out to sea down the St. 
> Lawrence Seaway, Erie Canal, and so on?
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
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Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Rod

No I cannot remove the sole.  The screws are under the Lonseal.  I bought it 
from Defender in the US and shipped it to a UPS store in the US.  I’m only 30 
minutes away.  Noah’s marine in TO carries the product.

http://www.noahsmarine.com/Psearchresult.asp?stye=ss

One of the reasons I went with Lonseal is that I asked a local chandler for T 
plywood and was told they don’t handle it anymore because of damage in transit.

Mike

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rod Stright 
> Date: November 16, 2019 at 8:49:18 AM EST
> To: persuasio...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE:  Stus-List Fwd:  FW:  Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> 
> 
> So if you had to can you take your cabin sole up?  I can’t find out if they 
> have a Canadian distributer?
>  
> Thanks Regards
> Rod
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Mike Taylor via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: November-16-19 9:45 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Stus-List Fwd: FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing
>  
> Rob
>  
> If your existing T plywood is in good shape then I think a good sanding is 
> all that would be required.  Mine was delaminating.  The hardest part was 
> gluing it down. As I mentioned before I didn’t do the off gassing and got a 
> couple of bubbles.
>  
> Mike
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Rod Stright 
> Date: November 15, 2019 at 6:41:54 PM EST
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List FW:  Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> 
> Hey Mike looks great. I was thinking about putting it over my existing teak 
> and holly which is in reasonable condition but a bit dark.  Think that would 
> work?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruce, Rod, Et Al
>  
> Here is a link to some pictures of my Lonseal cabin sole install.  Cabin Sole
>  
> Sorry Rod I down race so I can’t answer your questions.  My opinion; the 
> product itself is a superior vinyl product and with proper installation there 
> should be no issue.  That being said if you drop something the Lonseal will 
> hold up well but the substrate may dent and be visible.
>  
> Some tips
> Design substrate (plywood) with as few seams as possible.
> Router bottom outsides edges with ½” router
> Apply a minimum of 2 coats of epoxy to all pieces on all sides
> Roll out the Lonseal  on a solid flat surface (living room floor) upside down 
> then lay plywood upside down in the pattern it will be applied.  Cut Lonseal 
> at least 1” larger than required on all side.  Makes it easier to install and 
> easier to trim after glue is set.
> Tape joints like you would with drywall.  I didn’t.
> Use j-roller instead of recommended 100 lb. roller.  See mod I made to 
> j-roller so I could apply more weight
> Follow gluing instructions to the letter especially the off gassing.  I 
> didn’t and some bubbles occurred that couldn’t be rolled out.
> Use router with edge trimmer to cut bilge ports.
>  
> I was lucky that my sole was a bit narrower than the LonSeal.  Just ensure 
> the pieces in the v-berth and the small piece in the galley lines all line 
> up.  Same thing for the bilge access ports.  I had to make a small lengthwise 
> cut around the mast truck to fit around the centreboard tube.  It can’t be 
> seen unless you really look for it.
>  
> Mike
>  
>  
> From: bwhitmore via CnC-List
> Sent: November 10, 2019 7:11 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: bwhitmore
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing
>  
> Hi Mike and group,  
>  
> If anyone has good photos of the installed Lonseal PlasTeak product,  I'd 
> like to see them.
>  
> As much as I am a traditionalist, ease of repair my win out.
>  
> I'd really like to know if you can notice a distinct difference between this 
> and real teak.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Bruce 
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>  
>  Original message 
> From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/9/19 4:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Stus-List Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
>  
> Hi Rod
>  
> Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on 
> product name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.
> 
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405
> 
> I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.
>  
> Mike
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Rod Stright 
> Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> 
> Can you send additional info 

Stus-List Fwd: FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Rob

If your existing T plywood is in good shape then I think a good sanding is 
all that would be required.  Mine was delaminating.  The hardest part was 
gluing it down. As I mentioned before I didn’t do the off gassing and got a 
couple of bubbles.

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rod Stright 
> Date: November 15, 2019 at 6:41:54 PM EST
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List FW:  Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> 
> Hey Mike looks great. I was thinking about putting it over my existing teak 
> and holly which is in reasonable condition but a bit dark.  Think that would 
> work?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Bruce, Rod, Et Al
>>  
>> Here is a link to some pictures of my Lonseal cabin sole install.  Cabin Sole
>>  
>> Sorry Rod I down race so I can’t answer your questions.  My opinion; the 
>> product itself is a superior vinyl product and with proper installation 
>> there should be no issue.  That being said if you drop something the Lonseal 
>> will hold up well but the substrate may dent and be visible.
>>  
>> Some tips
>> Design substrate (plywood) with as few seams as possible.
>> Router bottom outsides edges with ½” router
>> Apply a minimum of 2 coats of epoxy to all pieces on all sides
>> Roll out the Lonseal  on a solid flat surface (living room floor) upside 
>> down then lay plywood upside down in the pattern it will be applied.  Cut 
>> Lonseal at least 1” larger than required on all side.  Makes it easier to 
>> install and easier to trim after glue is set.
>> Tape joints like you would with drywall.  I didn’t.
>> Use j-roller instead of recommended 100 lb. roller.  See mod I made to 
>> j-roller so I could apply more weight
>> Follow gluing instructions to the letter especially the off gassing.  I 
>> didn’t and some bubbles occurred that couldn’t be rolled out.
>> Use router with edge trimmer to cut bilge ports.
>>  
>> I was lucky that my sole was a bit narrower than the LonSeal.  Just ensure 
>> the pieces in the v-berth and the small piece in the galley lines all line 
>> up.  Same thing for the bilge access ports.  I had to make a small 
>> lengthwise cut around the mast truck to fit around the centreboard tube.  It 
>> can’t be seen unless you really look for it.
>>  
>> Mike
>>  
>>  
>> From: bwhitmore via CnC-List
>> Sent: November 10, 2019 7:11 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: bwhitmore
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing
>>  
>> Hi Mike and group,  
>>  
>> If anyone has good photos of the installed Lonseal PlasTeak product,  I'd 
>> like to see them.
>>  
>> As much as I am a traditionalist, ease of repair my win out.
>>  
>> I'd really like to know if you can notice a distinct difference between this 
>> and real teak.
>>  
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> Bruce 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>  
>>  Original message 
>> From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
>> Date: 11/9/19 4:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Mike Taylor 
>> Subject: Stus-List Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
>>  
>> Hi Rod
>>  
>> Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on 
>> product name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.
>> 
>> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405
>> 
>> I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.
>>  
>> Mike
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Rod Stright 
>> Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
>> Cc: Mike Taylor 
>> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
>> 
>> Can you send additional info haven’t heard of it here.
>>  
>> Thanks
>> Rod 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dave
>>  
>> I went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West 
>> system epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips and 
>> pics if you desire.
>> 
>> Mike
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
>> Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM AST
>> To: CnC discussion list CnC 
>> Cc: David Knecht 
>> Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacing
>> Reply-To

Stus-List Fwd: FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Dave

I used 5/8” construction grade plywood for the substrate. I would have 
preferred 3/4” but that would have put the Lonseal slightly proud of the liner 
edges.  I did screw the substrate down but some screws didn’t grab well.  Maybe 
one of those vhb tapes would be a good alternative.

Mike
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> From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
> Date: November 15, 2019 at 6:58:29 PM EST
> To: John Christopher via CnC-List 
> Cc: Dave Godwin 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List FW:  Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Mike,
> 
> That. Is. One. Beautiful. Cabin sole.
> 
> Well worth the effort I’d say. I’m going to look into that 1/2 router edge 
> that you made. My early version of the 37’ doesn’t have the nice liner edges 
> that yours does but it may be an important technique. My model simply drops 
> in, butts up to the joiner work and is finished teak 1/4-round moulding.
> 
> Questions: what is the substrate that you used? Did you screw the panels in 
> like was done on my model? It’s a design “feature” that I have not been wild 
> about and am thinking about some other fastening system when I put my cabin 
> sole back in.
> 
> Having been exposed to new boats with flooring systems like yours I have to 
> think that it will hold up better that the original teak and holly 3/4” ply.
> 
> Well done.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce, Rod, Et Al
>>  
>> Here is a link to some pictures of my Lonseal cabin sole install.  Cabin Sole
>>  
>> Sorry Rod I down race so I can’t answer your questions.  My opinion; the 
>> product itself is a superior vinyl product and with proper installation 
>> there should be no issue.  That being said if you drop something the Lonseal 
>> will hold up well but the substrate may dent and be visible.
>>  
>> Some tips
>> Design substrate (plywood) with as few seams as possible.
>> Router bottom outsides edges with ½” router
>> Apply a minimum of 2 coats of epoxy to all pieces on all sides
>> Roll out the Lonseal  on a solid flat surface (living room floor) upside 
>> down then lay plywood upside down in the pattern it will be applied.  Cut 
>> Lonseal at least 1” larger than required on all side.  Makes it easier to 
>> install and easier to trim after glue is set.
>> Tape joints like you would with drywall.  I didn’t.
>> Use j-roller instead of recommended 100 lb. roller.  See mod I made to 
>> j-roller so I could apply more weight
>> Follow gluing instructions to the letter especially the off gassing.  I 
>> didn’t and some bubbles occurred that couldn’t be rolled out.
>> Use router with edge trimmer to cut bilge ports.
>>  
>> I was lucky that my sole was a bit narrower than the LonSeal.  Just ensure 
>> the pieces in the v-berth and the small piece in the galley lines all line 
>> up.  Same thing for the bilge access ports.  I had to make a small 
>> lengthwise cut around the mast truck to fit around the centreboard tube.  It 
>> can’t be seen unless you really look for it.
>>  
>> Mike
>>  
> 
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Stus-List FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Bruce, Rod, Et Al

Here is a link to some pictures of my Lonseal cabin sole install.  Cabin Sole

Sorry Rod I down race so I can’t answer your questions.  My opinion; the 
product itself is a superior vinyl product and with proper installation there 
should be no issue.  That being said if you drop something the Lonseal will 
hold up well but the substrate may dent and be visible.

Some tips
Design substrate (plywood) with as few seams as possible. 
Router bottom outsides edges with ½” router
Apply a minimum of 2 coats of epoxy to all pieces on all sides
Roll out the Lonseal  on a solid flat surface (living room floor) upside down 
then lay plywood upside down in the pattern it will be applied.  Cut Lonseal at 
least 1” larger than required on all side.  Makes it easier to install and 
easier to trim after glue is set.
Tape joints like you would with drywall.  I didn’t.
Use j-roller instead of recommended 100 lb. roller.  See mod I made to j-roller 
so I could apply more weight
Follow gluing instructions to the letter especially the off gassing.  I didn’t 
and some bubbles occurred that couldn’t be rolled out.
Use router with edge trimmer to cut bilge ports.

I was lucky that my sole was a bit narrower than the LonSeal.  Just ensure the 
pieces in the v-berth and the small piece in the galley lines all line up.  
Same thing for the bilge access ports.  I had to make a small lengthwise cut 
around the mast truck to fit around the centreboard tube.  It can’t be seen 
unless you really look for it.

Mike


From: bwhitmore via CnC-List
Sent: November 10, 2019 7:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: bwhitmore
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

Hi Mike and group,  

If anyone has good photos of the installed Lonseal PlasTeak product,  I'd like 
to see them.

As much as I am a traditionalist, ease of repair my win out.

I'd really like to know if you can notice a distinct difference between this 
and real teak.

Thanks!

Bruce 



Sent from Samsung tablet.

 Original message 
From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
Date: 11/9/19 4:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Mike Taylor  
Subject: Stus-List Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing 

Hi Rod

Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on product 
name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405

I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.

Mike
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rod Stright 
Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
Cc: Mike Taylor 
Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
Can you send additional info haven’t heard of it here.

Thanks
Rod 
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 9, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
wrote:

Dave

I went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West system 
epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips and pics if 
you desire.

Mike
Begin forwarded message:
From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM AST
To: CnC discussion list CnC 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacing
Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
The cabin sole on my boat is not in great shape.  There are areas where the 
holly stripes and are gone or pulling away.   I am considering what to do and 
have a vague recollection of someone using a glue-on faux teak/holley covering 
over the wood (Nautikflor?) but I can’t find that discussion anywhere in the 
archives.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT




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Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Rod

Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on product 
name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405

I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.

Mike
Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rod Stright 
> Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
> Cc: Mike Taylor 
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
> 
> Can you send additional info haven’t heard of it here.
> 
> Thanks
> Rod 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> I went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West 
>> system epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips and 
>> pics if you desire.
>> 
>> Mike
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
>>> Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM AST
>>> To: CnC discussion list CnC 
>>> Cc: David Knecht 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacing
>>> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> 
>>> The cabin sole on my boat is not in great shape.  There are areas where 
>>> the holly stripes and are gone or pulling away.   I am considering what to 
>>> do and have a vague recollection of someone using a glue-on faux 
>>> teak/holley covering over the wood (Nautikflor?) but I can’t find that 
>>> discussion anywhere in the archives.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks- Dave
>>> 
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
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Stus-List Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

DaveI went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West system epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips and pics if you desire.MikeBegin forwarded message:From: David Knecht via CnC-List Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM ASTTo: CnC discussion list CnC Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacingReply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comThe cabin sole on my boat is not in great shape.  There are areas where the holly stripes and are gone or pulling away.   I am considering what to do and have a vague recollection of someone using a glue-on faux teak/holley covering over the wood (Nautikflor?) but I can’t find that discussion anywhere in the archives.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT




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Stus-List Fwd: Compass

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

 Been sailing 35+ years, 3 different boats. Sailed in NB, NS and ON.  I have 
never removed a compass.  

Waiting for survey at +1C

Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
> Date: November 4, 2019 at 8:12:59 AM EST
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Robert Abbott 
> Subject: Stus-List Compass
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> To my northern sailors where the temps go below freezingdoes anyone take 
> their compass off the boat over winter?  Southern sailors can chime in words 
> of wisdom as well.
> 
> I read somewhere it should be to avoid the stress on the seals but I have 
> never done it and my old compass works.  It was reconditioned in 2006 after 
> the boat made a road trip from Wisconsin to Halifax , Nova Scotia.
> 
> I don't know if the original owner there took it offfrom what I 
> understand, he was someone that might have done it.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Fwd: 3 blade prop question

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Brian

I have a three blade Campbell Sailor and am very pleased.

http://www.westbynorth.com/campbell-sailer/

Mike
C 37
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> From: Brian Davis via CnC-List 
> Date: October 20, 2019 at 10:36:23 AM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Brian Davis 
> Subject: Stus-List 3 blade prop question
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Re: Stus-List Refridgeration

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

When mine acted like that it was the circuit board.  If you go the pro route 
make sure they are knowledgeable with 12 volt systems.  I went the pro route 
(residential) and  he overcharged the system. It took me a while to get the 
pressure lowered.  If you have a danfoss compressor there is lots of info of 
the web.

Mike
37 k/cb
Persuasion 

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have what appears to be an original circa 1999 Cold Machine.  The 
> compressor runs and cycles off for very short periods.  Sometimes the 
> temperature is perfect at 34-38 for days on end, then then other times it 
> will stay in the high 40's - low 50's.  Shutting it off and letting it sit 
> for a few hours seems to help but this could be anecdotal.
> 
> Two questions before I call in a pro.
> 
> Has anyone have advice for self repair?
> Is it worth calling in a pro with a unit this old, or should I just remove 
> and replace?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Rob
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Stus-List Fwd: Suspend

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Stu

Would you please reinstate my account.  I would like to start receiving emails 
again.

Thanks 
Mike


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> From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
> Date: September 10, 2018 at 11:17:05 AM EDT
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc: Persuasion37 
> Subject: Stus-List Suspend
> Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Hey Stu
> 
> Can you suspend my account for now.  I don’t want to unsubscribe just don’t 
> want the emails for now.  We are headed south again on Persuasion and will 
> have limited data.
> Thanks
> 
> Those that want to follow us here are some links
> https://persuasion37.ca/
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/persuasion37/ 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/persuasion37 
> 
> 
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
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Re: Stus-List Galvanic corrosion

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Bob

I started the season with 1.5 anodes. I’m in fresh water, Lake Ontario and St. 
Lawrence river.  I believe I have the correct anodes for fresh water. I really 
don’t want to go the galvanic isolator route

Mike 

> On Aug 9, 2018, at 12:04 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is the condition of your shaft zincs?
> 
> Are you in fresh water or salt water & do you have the correct zincs for the 
> type of water your boats in?
> 
> Sounds like you may need a galvanic isolator...
> 
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
> Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> Annapolis, MD 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:10 PM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey folks
>> 
>> I’m looking for some help.  Persuasion is suffering from galvanic corrosion 
>> or stray current corrosion or something.  When I connect a multi meter, 
>> ground to engine and positive lead to various place like keel bolt, mast and 
>> through hull I see ~0.5V.  Today I changed out the controller on the wind 
>> generator, with the circuit breaker open I saw 2.4V on the battery leads.  
>> Also the prop shaft was tarnished looking as well as the prop when I hauled 
>> out to do the centre board.
>> 
>> Before I call in the calvary can anyone advise me how to tackle this 
>> methodically and what I should look for.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Mike
>> PERSUASION
>> C 37 (k/cb) shoal draft
>> Long Sault
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Stus-List Fire extinguishers

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Well the recent Kidde recall got me to checking my fire extinguishers. I have 6 
onboard. One was dated 1977 and another 1984.  I’m willing to donate them to 
anyone that wants them, you pay the shipping. LOL

Mike 
Persuasion 
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Re: Stus-List Centre board

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Edd

I’m curious how did you seal your board in place.

Mike

> On Jun 28, 2018, at 11:46 AM, Schillay.com via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> As most everyone on the list knows, I sailed with a centerboard on my 37+ for 
> almost 15 years before sealing it in the keel. While the 37 has a different, 
> deeper board, here’s what I discovered when it came to my boat:
> 
> In a good breeze, going upwind, it’s certainly an advantage. While we didn’t 
> necessarily point higher, we did side-slip slightly less. For cruising, it’s 
> not a big deal, but if you race the boat, you’ll want it down upwind. 
> 
> In light air, having that much more “boat in the water” when the board was 
> down was more of a disadvantage. If it’s 5 knots or less, you will sail 
> faster with the board up on all points of sail. Additionally, the slot itself 
> is a bit of a drag when it comes to water flow. 
> 
> Not only did I fix the board in the up position, I sealed the bottom — no 
> slot. I actually sail faster now off the wind.  I did add a drain plug, but 
> I’ve found not much water has been collecting inside. 
> 
> Interestingly enough, I raced the Enterprise for a season and a half with the 
> board sealed in place. Ultimately I saw no difference — we were as 
> competitive as we were before and finishing in the same place as before with 
> the same time differences between the same competition. This was for one-hour 
> or so beer-can racing, and perhaps things would be different on longer races. 
> Oh — and sealing it gave me one less whiny crew member in the pit since they 
> no longer had to winch that thing up after the windward mark rounding. 
> 
> Maintenance issues is a biggie. If you keep the board, you are looking at 
> replacing that cable every 5-8 years. For the 37+ design, there’s no way a 
> diver can do it — it must be a haul and the yard will charge you extra for 
> staying in their travel lift for the duration of the swap. And if that cable 
> should happen to break, you could be looking at a world of damage to your 
> keel. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>> On Jun 28, 2018, 11:21 AM -0400, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
>> , wrote:
>> To all you keel/centre board owners, I’m wondering how many of you actually 
>> use the centre board?
>> 
>> Some of you may recall that the pendant let go somewhere in the Bahamas in 
>> 14/15. Fortunately the board was jammed up inside and had been for a number 
>> of years. Upon my return to Canada I removed the board and it has been in my 
>> garage ever since. Long story short it is repaired and I am ready to 
>> re-install the board. I’m thinking of just pinning the board in the up 
>> position. I have all the hardware but I’ve only had the board deployed 3 
>> times in 12 years. This should also relieve any maintenance issues. Any 
>> thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for the feedback.
>> 
>> Mike
>> PERSUASION
>> C 37 K/CB
>> Long Sault
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Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Glen

Don’t be scarred away from AGMs.  Persuasion came with 2-4d AGMs and a Group 31 
starter.  I replaced the Group 31 about 6 years ago from Canadian tire, still 
going.  The important factor here is to charge them properly.  I would say your 
are good to go as you already have AGMs.  

Mike
C 37
www.persuasion37.com

From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: April 4, 2018 12:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries

I would suggest thinking very hard if you need AGMs. They are more expensive 
and require much better management and maintenance (i.e. quite specific 
charging regime). In normal use, they won’t last longer, either.

If you are forced to have a battery in the enclosed compartment (in your 
cabin), you may consider a gel battery - non-spillable and virtually, no 
off-gassing. From what I understand, they are less sensitive to variations in 
charging voltage (you can use a standard charger).

Many people had decent results with standard wet lead-acid deep cycle batteries 
from Costco. Since you are in Toronto, personally, I would stay far, far away 
from Canadian Tire.

Others would probably chime in on various brands that do (or don’t) work on 
their boats.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Glen Eddie via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 12:04
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Glen Eddie 
Subject: Stus-List Marine Batteries

Hello everyone,

I need to replace my house battery and my engine battery (atomic 4).  I also 
have a dedicated battery for my Windless (don’t ask).

Any suggestions.  I currently have 31 AGMs. 

Thanks everyone. 


Glen Eddie
Tel:  416-777-5357
Fax:  1-888-812-2557
ged...@torkinmanes.com
VCard

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