Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Russ, it's a slat-bottom Zodiac. It really is an inflatable, I pump it up
in the spring and deflate it in the fall. Usually don't have to do anything
to it in between.
I really like the concept of an air floor, most folks seem happy with
theirs. With no storage at home, it has to live in the mothership over the
winter, so a RIB is out.
We gave up on hard tenders after an episode of running downwind in the
Strait of Georgia, when I was certain our 8' glass dinghy was going to join
us in the cockpit of our Shark.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 11 August 2016 at 21:40, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Is this a hard dinghy, d'flatable (with *x *type floor) or a hybrid?
>
> I'm intrigued by the high pressure floor d'flatables but haven't tried one
> yet.
>
> Only an optimistic person calls them inflatables 'cause that is not their
> preference from what I've seen.
>
> Cheers, Russ
> * Sweet*, 35 mk-1
>
> At 07:05 PM 11/08/2016, you wrote:
>
> We towed a light dinghy all the way around Vancouver Island, and usually
> set it for minimum drag, so 2-3 fingers of pressure in calm weather. As the
> wind and waves increased, we pulled the dinghy right up on the transom so
> only the back end is in the water. That also stops the wind from spinning
> it behind the boat like a propeller and expelling all the contents, which
> we experienced once and don't want to repeat. After one bad experience
> running downwind and wave in the Strait of Georgia we always make sure to
> take the drain plug out and tether it.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[David Platt via CnC-List]

I tow mine on the front of the second stern wave.  It can surf down the 
front of the wave to reduce pull on the tow line but should not run up 
against your stern in following waves.  I do keep a small fender on the 
tow line about 4 feet in front of the dinghy and when I stop the dinghy 
usually stops at the fender/float.



david

C Wanderer

On 2016-08-10 12:16 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List wrote:
We have a hard shell dinghy. How long should the tow line be? We had 
one incident when it turned over.



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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Jim,

Is this a hard dinghy, d'flatable (with x type floor) or a hybrid?

I'm intrigued by the high pressure floor d'flatables but haven't 
tried one yet.


Only an optimistic person calls them inflatables 'cause that is not 
their preference from what I've seen.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet, 35 mk-1

At 07:05 PM 11/08/2016, you wrote:
We towed a light dinghy all the way around Vancouver Island, and 
usually set it for minimum drag, so 2-3 fingers of pressure in calm 
weather. As the wind and waves increased, we pulled the dinghy right 
up on the transom so only the back end is in the water. That also 
stops the wind from spinning it behind the boat like a propeller and 
expelling all the contents, which we experienced once and don't want 
to repeat. After one bad experience running downwind and wave in the 
Strait of Georgia we always make sure to take the drain plug out and 
tether it.


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

We towed a light dinghy all the way around Vancouver Island, and usually
set it for minimum drag, so 2-3 fingers of pressure in calm weather. As the
wind and waves increased, we pulled the dinghy right up on the transom so
only the back end is in the water. That also stops the wind from spinning
it behind the boat like a propeller and expelling all the contents, which
we experienced once and don't want to repeat. After one bad experience
running downwind and wave in the Strait of Georgia we always make sure to
take the drain plug out and tether it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 10 August 2016 at 14:24, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Had the same thing happen to me last week, slightly under-inflated dinghy
> filled up when the bow dug in.   Now I pull the plug on the transom, it has
> a flap to keep water from flowing in but drains itself when moving.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
>
>
> On 8/10/2016 2:56 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I let enough of the painter out when under way so that the dinghy surfs
>> down the wave created by indigo. I feel that this reduces the tension on
>> the painter - and thus the drag.
>
>
>
> Did that once with a slightly under-inflated dinghy.  Ended up with a
> dinghy full of water.  Bow went down into the trough; water came over the
> bow.  Boat speed drops significantly towing a dinghy with several hundred
> pounds of water in it.  :(
>
> Dennis C.
>
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Had the same thing happen to me last week, slightly under-inflated 
dinghy filled up when the bow dug in.   Now I pull the plug on the 
transom, it has a flap to keep water from flowing in but drains itself 
when moving.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 8/10/2016 2:56 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:


On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Indigo via CnC-List 
> wrote:


I let enough of the painter out when under way so that the dinghy
surfs down the wave created by indigo. I feel that this reduces
the tension on the painter - and thus the drag.



Did that once with a slightly under-inflated dinghy.  Ended up with a 
dinghy full of water. Bow went down into the trough; water came over 
the bow.  Boat speed drops significantly towing a dinghy with several 
hundred pounds of water in it.  :(


Dennis C.


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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:

> I let enough of the painter out when under way so that the dinghy surfs
> down the wave created by indigo. I feel that this reduces the tension on
> the painter - and thus the drag.



Did that once with a slightly under-inflated dinghy.  Ended up with a
dinghy full of water.  Bow went down into the trough; water came over the
bow.  Boat speed drops significantly towing a dinghy with several hundred
pounds of water in it.  :(

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

As has been touched on, in reasonably calm conditions, tow the dinghy so it is 
going uphill on the first or second stern wave. That will keep tension on the 
tow line. For longer passages or ones where we anticipate rough weather, we 
lift onto the foredeck and lash it in place. It's a pain in the...neck, but 
ensures we won't have trouble later. As Jonathan suggests, we always take the 
outboard off before we leave.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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>> 
>> We have a hard shell dinghy. How long should the tow line be? We had one 
>> incident when it turned over. 
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I tow an inflatable from time to time so don't know how relevant this is to a 
hard dinghy. 

I have an long purpos built dinghy tether / painter with 2 attachment points at 
the dinghy. I let enough of the painter out when under way so that the dinghy 
surfs down the wave created by indigo. I feel that this reduces the tension on 
the painter - and thus the drag.   Note that I NEVER tow the dinghy with the 
outboard in place - I always bring it on board Indigo - can't afford a 
swamping!!  I also attach a second line to the dinghy which is adjusted to be a 
few inches longer than the primary painter - "just in case". 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:16, Bev Parslow via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> We have a hard shell dinghy. How long should the tow line be? We had one 
> incident when it turned over. 
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Our dinghy tows best on the backside of the 1st or 2nd stern wave.  That
way the bow is pointed upward so it doesn't dive.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have a hard shell dinghy. How long should the tow line be? We had one
> incident when it turned over.
>
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Always remember, and NEVER forget: When you are approaching anywhere you 
will be stopping, even briefly, first pull the dinghy up close so you 
don't wrap the painter around your prop. A floating painter is not 100% 
protection from this issue. ;-)


Bill Bina


On 8/10/2016 1:13 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:
The recommendation I was given during a CYA training trip was to let 
the painter out one wave length in order to get both the dingy and the 
mother ship on the same part of the wave and reduce jerk loads on the 
painter. That advice presupposes that the waves are somewhat regular. 
I have no idea what the "official" thinking is now, but I see the 
logic behind it, and it worked in the Strait of Georgia and Haro 
Strait which is where we went on that trip.
A friend of mine tried going south from Chester NS along the coast 
with his dingy hauled up tight, the wind picked up, and he was unable 
to secure it in such a way to stop the bashing. The dingy was soon gone.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII



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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

The recommendation I was given during a CYA training trip was to let the 
painter out one wave length in order to get both the dingy and the mother ship 
on the same part of the wave and reduce jerk loads on the painter. That advice 
presupposes that the waves are somewhat regular. I have no idea what the 
"official" thinking is now, but I see the logic behind it, and it worked in the 
Strait of Georgia and Haro Strait which is where we went on that trip. 

A friend of mine tried going south from Chester NS along the coast with his 
dingy hauled up tight, the wind picked up, and he was unable to secure it in 
such a way to stop the bashing. The dingy was soon gone. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
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  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Bev Parslow 
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  Subject: Stus-List Dinghy towing length


  We have a hard shell dinghy. How long should the tow line be? We had one 
incident when it turned over. 
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