Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I have replaced my fuel tank. It is pretty easy, it comes right out once you 
empty all the stuff out of the locker.
WARNING: 

The original fuel tank in the MK I is ternplate and it WILL leak sooner or 
later.

The original fill and vent hoses are NOT ethanol rated and will dissolve from 
the inside out, dropping rubber pieces into the tank.

The 90 degree rubber elbow thing is NOT fuel rated and will come apart sooner 
or later. Mine spilt while fueling and dumped 5 gallons into the bilge. I got a 
new one fabricated from aluminum at my local welding shop.

A C 35 MK I exploded and burned after refueling and I will bet anything it 
was the rubber elbow. I would have too if I hadn’t caught it with the blower.

The supply hose is likewise not ethanol rated. If you still have copper line, 
that is no longer used, it eventually cracks.

Really nothing but the filler should be original and I got a new cap for that 
because the old O-ring was not sealing.

 

I think my tank now is this one – been awhile since I bought it.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/rds-manufacturing--below-deck-aluminum-fuel-tank-18ga--244485?recordNum=2

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

Coquina

C 35 MK i

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:47 AM
To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

 

I have a Plastimo (black) but would rather have a Moeller (translucent) because 
you can see the fuel level.  Not sure about your configuration but you should 
be able to find a close fit.

 

http://moellermarine.com/product-category/fuel-containment/permanent-fuel-tanks/

 

Determine which model best fits then go online shopping using the model number.

 

Dennis C.

 

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
Fridayreally.
Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar furnace and 
refrigeration complicate things for me.
Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in 
plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
Bill Walker CnC 36
Penteater, Mi

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  _  

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled mine 
took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.

 

The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement may 
be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may need a 
coupling or nipple to make it work.

 

If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is well 
past its useful life.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hervey,

Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the lazarette 
under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two galvanized steel 
straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part was undoing the fill 
and vent connections, had to get to them through the panel at the aft end of 
the port quarter berth. 

As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was a 
pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little bit of 
a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new plastic tank 
down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through the wall of the 
tank to see the level.

 


___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

 

___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: 
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

 

___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Thanks Dennis...
Bill Walker 




___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have a Plastimo (black) but would rather have a Moeller (translucent)
because you can see the fuel level.  Not sure about your configuration but
you should be able to find a close fit.

http://moellermarine.com/product-category/fuel-containment/permanent-fuel-tanks/

Determine which model best fits then go online shopping using the model
number.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on
> Fridayreally.
> Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar
> furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.
> Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in
> plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
> Bill Walker CnC 36
> Penteater, Mi
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> --
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled
> mine took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.
>
> The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement
> may be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may
> need a coupling or nipple to make it work.
>
> If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is
> well past its useful life.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hervey,
>>
>> Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the
>> lazarette under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two
>> galvanized steel straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part
>> was undoing the fill and vent connections, had to get to them through the
>> panel at the aft end of the port quarter berth.
>>
>> As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was
>> a pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little
>> bit of a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new
>> plastic tank down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through
>> the wall of the tank to see the level.
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>>
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
> ___
>
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
> ___
>
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
>
___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[William Walker via CnC-List]

All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
Fridayreally.
Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar furnace and 
refrigeration complicate things for me.
Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in 
plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
Bill Walker CnC 36
Penteater, Mi

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled mine 
took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.


The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement may 
be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may need a 
coupling or nipple to make it work.


If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is well 
past its useful life.


Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA


On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hervey,

Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the lazarette 
under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two galvanized steel 
straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part was undoing the fill 
and vent connections, had to get to them through the panel at the aft end of 
the port quarter berth. 

As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was a 
pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little bit of 
a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new plastic tank 
down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through the wall of the 
tank to see the level.



___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!


___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: 
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled
mine took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.

The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement
may be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may
need a coupling or nipple to make it work.

If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is
well past its useful life.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hervey,
>
> Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the
> lazarette under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two
> galvanized steel straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part
> was undoing the fill and vent connections, had to get to them through the
> panel at the aft end of the port quarter berth.
>
> As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was a
> pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little
> bit of a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new
> plastic tank down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through
> the wall of the tank to see the level.
>
>
>
> ___
>
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
>
___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Hervey,

Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the 
lazarette under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two 
galvanized steel straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest 
part was undoing the fill and vent connections, had to get to them 
through the panel at the aft end of the port quarter berth.


As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was 
a pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, 
little bit of a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold 
the new plastic tank down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just 
look through the wall of the tank to see the level.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 9/9/2017 9:28 PM, Hervey Machen via CnC-List wrote:

Neil,
Curious as to how you removed the fuel tank on your 35-1, as I've been 
concerned about our tank, but looks like a daunting task to remove the 
tank.

Hervey Machen
Ciothog 35-1, #115
Solomons MD


___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!


___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All Contributions are greatly appreciated!