Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Kind of the same thing happen to a 36 at my club, Same bolt under the mast, the 
one that gets the water from the mast. the owner was torquing the keels bolts 
and maybe he went a bit crazy. Anyways, the keel J bolt came loose spin with 
the nut and created a bulge. So maybe the caster is not the only one to blame 
or the winters . He let it dried, injected acetone followed by epoxy, hammered 
the lead back and let it cured. Seems fine know.

Bruno lachance.

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Le 18 avr. 2019 à 21:03, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Interesting, I was just talking with a friend this afternoon with a C&C36, with 
a much bigger bulge than that.
Looks like it is the keel bolt just under the mast. Fellow he has working on it 
said he drilled a hole in it, and got at least a quart of water squirting out, 
they put a borescope in there, and it is quite a cavern.  Don’t know how 
something like this could happen, obviously the Casters were smoking pot that 
day.

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eugene Fodor 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:07 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Eugene Fodor
Subject: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel bolt 
on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found 
nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do the same 
thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and expands 
recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own the boat 
unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an easier plan. I 
have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose, but it seems like 
that might take a while.

Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the pictures, 
but the cracking is the telltale.

Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this issue?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8

Thanks,

Gene Fodor
Hawk
C&C 29-2
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Interesting, I was just talking with a friend this afternoon with a C&C36, with 
a much bigger bulge than that.

Looks like it is the keel bolt just under the mast. Fellow he has working on it 
said he drilled a hole in it, and got at least a quart of water squirting out, 
they put a borescope in there, and it is quite a cavern.  Don’t know how 
something like this could happen, obviously the Casters were smoking pot that 
day.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eugene Fodor 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:07 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Eugene Fodor
Subject: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

 

So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel bolt 
on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found 
nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do the same 
thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and expands 
recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own the boat 
unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an easier plan. I 
have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose, but it seems like 
that might take a while. 

 

Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the pictures, 
but the cracking is the telltale. 

 

Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this issue?

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8  

 

Thanks,

 

Gene Fodor

Hawk

C&C 29-2

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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Eugene Fodor via CnC-List]

Hi Alan,

I think my surveyor missed it on the initial report and we discussed it as
I recall. I recall seeing it when I first purchased the boat. It's a pretty
common with northern C&C's when I spoke to Eric Thomas the marina owner at
Barker's Island. He had suggested the drilling/hammering/etc when I did the
first repair.

Thanks,

Gene


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> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:57:45 -0700
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> I recommend you have a surveyor look at that. The crack tells me you have a
> bigger problem than you might think. The small cost will at least give you
> peace of mind if it's nothing for you to worry about.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Eugene Fodor via CnC-List]

That's a great suggestion. I did drill it in the fall the first time I did
the repair (drilled in the fall, repaired in the spring). The trick is
trying to find the void. I may need to drill a few holes. :-(

Gene

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:33 AM Ken Heaton  wrote:

> " Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found
> nothing) "
>
> Did you drill the hole in the fall, before you had freezing temperatures?
> If not I'd think about re-drilling the same hole every fall to let water
> drain, and fill it in the spring.  If there's no water then it can't freeze.
>
> Ken H.
>
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

" Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found
nothing) "

Did you drill the hole in the fall, before you had freezing temperatures?
If not I'd think about re-drilling the same hole every fall to let water
drain, and fill it in the spring.  If there's no water then it can't freeze.

Ken H.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 12:07, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
> bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
> found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
> the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
> expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
> the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
> easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
> but it seems like that might take a while.
>
> Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
> pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.
>
> Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
> issue?
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> Hawk
> C&C 29-2
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I recommend you have a surveyor look at that. The crack tells me you have a
bigger problem than you might think. The small cost will at least give you
peace of mind if it's nothing for you to worry about.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:07 AM Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
> bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
> found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
> the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
> expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
> the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
> easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
> but it seems like that might take a while.
>
> Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
> pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.
>
> Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
> issue?
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8
> 
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> Hawk
> C&C 29-2
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