Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Mark McMenamy via CnC-List]

Thanks everyone for all the great ideas.  I really appreciate the help.  For 
the time being I just replaced the Perko outlet as it wasn't very expensive and 
it was an easy project.  I sprayed corrosion blocker before connecting and 
sealed the connecting boot off with Life Seal to keep the spray off.But I 
think I'm going to move all the cable connections down below as you all 
have.when things cool off down here.   Thanks again.  This list is such an 
awesome resource.

Have a good weekend!

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL

On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:


On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Finally a couple years ago I saw these
https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in and the problem was
solved.
In my future boat anything removable that needs to go through the deck will
have one of these


I heartily second the Cable Clam.  It is the ONLY fitting I use and recommend 
for deck penetrations.  Been installing them for years with no issues.  It 
would be a good solution for wiring for a deck stepped mast with a terminal 
strip below.

The Scanstrut recommended in another reply looks very similar but I haven't 
tried one.

BTW, I'm kinda anal about some mast cables.  Touche' has cables that run all 
the way to the instrument server or display or breaker panel.  If I pull the 
rig, I'll have to pull those back through the cabinetry to the base of the mast.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I put a Cable Clam on the deck of my 25 and moved the wiring connections to
a terminal strip on the ceiling of the head back in the later 90's when I
was living near Philly - when I still pulled the mast each fall.

Now that I'm south of the Chesapeake, pull the boat for bottom paint every 4
years or so, and never pull the mast, the cable clam is still in place and
has never leaked.

I like the performance so well that all the wires going through the deck of
my 38 for radar, extra antennas, wind generator, solar panels, etc. go
through Cable Clams.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 4:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Taillieu <rtaill...@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

Mark,

I have fought with the mast wiring problem on my 25 ever since I bought it
in 1999. I have three cables coming from the mast, VHF coax, mast lights and
wind instruments.
Because it is deck stepped there are only a few products that can be used
and none of the ones I tried worked for more than a couple years before the
contacts corroded beyond cleaning or the crew stepped on the connector while
racing.  I also got rid of the original C wiring leading into the deck and
sealed off that leak point into the core.
Finally a couple years ago I saw these
https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in and the problem was
solved.
In my future boat anything removable that needs to go through the deck will
have one of these.

Rick Taillieu
Nemesis (soon to be for sale in Halifax)
'75 C 25  #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.




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Sent: July-29-16 11:27
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Mark McMenamy
Subject: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

Hello Everyone,

A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering
and going out.  I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast.
It's just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time.  There is a
split on each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get
better contact, but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one
side or the other.   Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if
anyone had any ideas?   I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could.
There was some corrosion, but it's gone now.

As always, thanks a lot.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Finally a couple years ago I saw these
> https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in and the problem was
> solved.
> In my future boat anything removable that needs to go through the deck will
> have one of these
>


I heartily second the Cable Clam.  It is the ONLY fitting I use and
recommend for deck penetrations.  Been installing them for years with no
issues.  It would be a good solution for wiring for a deck stepped mast
with a terminal strip below.

The Scanstrut recommended in another reply looks very similar but I haven't
tried one.

BTW, I'm kinda anal about some mast cables.  Touche' has cables that run
all the way to the instrument server or display or breaker panel.  If I
pull the rig, I'll have to pull those back through the cabinetry to the
base of the mast.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Those look really nice Fred, I wish they were available when I did my project.

Also, in case I assumed too much, with these type of through deck seals you can 
just use the insulated spade connectors on the wires instead of the expensive 
waterproof connectors.

 

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: July-29-16 17:44
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

You could also use the oval ScanStrut version for multiple cables:

 

http://www.scanstrut.com/products/electrical-accessories/ds-multi-deck-seals-aluminium-detail

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Jul 29, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

 

Mark,

I have fought with the mast wiring problem on my 25 ever since I bought it
in 1999. I have three cables coming from the mast, VHF coax, mast lights and
wind instruments.
Because it is deck stepped there are only a few products that can be used
and none of the ones I tried worked for more than a couple years before the
contacts corroded beyond cleaning or the crew stepped on the connector while
racing.  I also got rid of the original C wiring leading into the deck and
sealed off that leak point into the core.
Finally a couple years ago I saw these
 <https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in> 
https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in and the problem was
solved.
In my future boat anything removable that needs to go through the deck will
have one of these.

Rick Taillieu
Nemesis (soon to be for sale in Halifax)
'75 C 25  #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.

 

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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

You could also use the oval ScanStrut version for multiple cables:

http://www.scanstrut.com/products/electrical-accessories/ds-multi-deck-seals-aluminium-detail
 


— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jul 29, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I have fought with the mast wiring problem on my 25 ever since I bought it
> in 1999. I have three cables coming from the mast, VHF coax, mast lights and
> wind instruments.
> Because it is deck stepped there are only a few products that can be used
> and none of the ones I tried worked for more than a couple years before the
> contacts corroded beyond cleaning or the crew stepped on the connector while
> racing.  I also got rid of the original C wiring leading into the deck and
> sealed off that leak point into the core.
> Finally a couple years ago I saw these
> https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in 
>  and the problem was
> solved.
> In my future boat anything removable that needs to go through the deck will
> have one of these.
> 
> Rick Taillieu
> Nemesis (soon to be for sale in Halifax)
> '75 C 25  #371
> Shearwater Yacht Club
> Halifax, NS.

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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Mark,

I have fought with the mast wiring problem on my 25 ever since I bought it
in 1999. I have three cables coming from the mast, VHF coax, mast lights and
wind instruments.
Because it is deck stepped there are only a few products that can be used
and none of the ones I tried worked for more than a couple years before the
contacts corroded beyond cleaning or the crew stepped on the connector while
racing.  I also got rid of the original C wiring leading into the deck and
sealed off that leak point into the core.
Finally a couple years ago I saw these
https://www.bluesea.com/products/1003/CableClam_1.40in and the problem was
solved.
In my future boat anything removable that needs to go through the deck will
have one of these.

Rick Taillieu
Nemesis (soon to be for sale in Halifax)
'75 C 25  #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.




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Sent: July-29-16 11:27
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Mark McMenamy
Subject: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

Hello Everyone,

A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering
and going out.  I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast.
It's just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time.  There is a
split on each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get
better contact, but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one
side or the other.   Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if
anyone had any ideas?   I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could.
There was some corrosion, but it's gone now.

As always, thanks a lot.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

If I ever did remove my mast again, my disconnects are below as well.
Joe
Coquina

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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 1:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

My mast wires go down inside the boat – then into the compartment under the 
dinette – the connectors are there – been doing the disconnect/connect for 23 
years.

Gary

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com<mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

Twice a year. Haulout in late October and launch in early May. It is called 
frozen North for a reason. But it leaves me at least 12 weeks for skiing (-;).

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:46
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Della Barba, Joe<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

My mast has been out twice from 1973 to 2016. How often are you doing 
this
Joe
Coquina

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

Marek,

Unless you are trailer sailing, using a screw driver to loosen two wires is 
simple enough for me.  I could live with spade connectors to make it easier 
than ring connectors.  If the molded connector is going to fail in a season or 
two, I don't see the advantage.

Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
But how would you handle connecting and disconnecting every time you step or 
unstep the mast? And how would you protect it from the elements?

I replaced the plugs numerous times and I seem to have a problem doing it 
reliably. And the worst part is that you have reasonably limited time when the 
mast is hanging in the mast crane.

I am using this: 
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1989-polarized-molded-electrical-connector. It 
works for a season or two; potentially longer, if you don’t disconnect it.

I am still looking for a good solution.

I am almost at the point where I am considering drilling through the deck and 
installing the wiring outside of the mast, so that it could be handled when the 
mast is already standing. But I hate to drill a hole and this would also put 
the connector in the harms way from my feet (on occasion).

Marek

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:37
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

I would use a terminal block, not a plug.
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890<http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C328%7C2289986%7C2289993=51890>

Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering and 
going out. I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast. It's 
just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time. There is a split on 
each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get better contact, 
but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one side or the other. 
Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas? 
I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could. There was some corrosion, but 
it's gone now.

As always, thanks a lot.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

My mast wires go down inside the boat – then into the compartment under the 
dinette – the connectors are there – been doing the disconnect/connect for 23 
years.

 

Gary

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

Twice a year. Haulout in late October and launch in early May. It is called 
frozen North for a reason. But it leaves me at least 12 weeks for skiing (-;).

 

Marek

Ottawa, ON

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>  

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:46

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>  

Cc: Della Barba, Joe <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>  

Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

My mast has been out twice from 1973 to 2016. How often are you doing 
this

Joe

Coquina

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

Marek,

 

Unless you are trailer sailing, using a screw driver to loosen two wires is 
simple enough for me.  I could live with spade connectors to make it easier 
than ring connectors.  If the molded connector is going to fail in a season or 
two, I don't see the advantage.

 

Joel  

 

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

But how would you handle connecting and disconnecting every time you step or 
unstep the mast? And how would you protect it from the elements?

 

I replaced the plugs numerous times and I seem to have a problem doing it 
reliably. And the worst part is that you have reasonably limited time when the 
mast is hanging in the mast crane.

 

I am using this: 
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1989-polarized-molded-electrical-connector. It 
works for a season or two; potentially longer, if you don’t disconnect it.

 

I am still looking for a good solution.

 

I am almost at the point where I am considering drilling through the deck and 
installing the wiring outside of the mast, so that it could be handled when the 
mast is already standing. But I hate to drill a hole and this would also put 
the connector in the harms way from my feet (on occasion).

 

Marek

 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>  

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:37

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>  

Cc: Joel Aronson <mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>  

Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

I would use a terminal block, not a plug. 

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993 
<http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C328%7C2289986%7C2289993=51890>
 =51890

 

Joel

 

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello Everyone,

A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering and 
going out. I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast. It's 
just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time. There is a split on 
each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get better contact, 
but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one side or the other. 
Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas? 
I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could. There was some corrosion, but 
it's gone now.

As always, thanks a lot.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Twice a year. Haulout in late October and launch in early May. It is called 
frozen North for a reason. But it leaves me at least 12 weeks for skiing (-;).

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:46
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

My mast has been out twice from 1973 to 2016. How often are you doing 
this

Joe

Coquina

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

Marek,

 

Unless you are trailer sailing, using a screw driver to loosen two wires is 
simple enough for me.  I could live with spade connectors to make it easier 
than ring connectors.  If the molded connector is going to fail in a season or 
two, I don't see the advantage.

 

Joel  

 

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

But how would you handle connecting and disconnecting every time you step or 
unstep the mast? And how would you protect it from the elements?

 

I replaced the plugs numerous times and I seem to have a problem doing it 
reliably. And the worst part is that you have reasonably limited time when the 
mast is hanging in the mast crane.

 

I am using this: 
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1989-polarized-molded-electrical-connector. It 
works for a season or two; potentially longer, if you don’t disconnect it.

 

I am still looking for a good solution.

 

I am almost at the point where I am considering drilling through the deck and 
installing the wiring outside of the mast, so that it could be handled when the 
mast is already standing. But I hate to drill a hole and this would also put 
the connector in the harms way from my feet (on occasion).

 

Marek

 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:37

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Cc: Joel Aronson 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

 

I would use a terminal block, not a plug. 

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890

 

Joel

 

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering and 
going out. I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast. It's 
just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time. There is a split on 
each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get better contact, 
but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one side or the other. 
Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas? 
I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could. There was some corrosion, but 
it's gone now.

As always, thanks a lot.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

My mast has been out twice from 1973 to 2016. How often are you doing 
this
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

Marek,

Unless you are trailer sailing, using a screw driver to loosen two wires is 
simple enough for me.  I could live with spade connectors to make it easier 
than ring connectors.  If the molded connector is going to fail in a season or 
two, I don't see the advantage.

Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
But how would you handle connecting and disconnecting every time you step or 
unstep the mast? And how would you protect it from the elements?

I replaced the plugs numerous times and I seem to have a problem doing it 
reliably. And the worst part is that you have reasonably limited time when the 
mast is hanging in the mast crane.

I am using this: 
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1989-polarized-molded-electrical-connector. It 
works for a season or two; potentially longer, if you don’t disconnect it.

I am still looking for a good solution.

I am almost at the point where I am considering drilling through the deck and 
installing the wiring outside of the mast, so that it could be handled when the 
mast is already standing. But I hate to drill a hole and this would also put 
the connector in the harms way from my feet (on occasion).

Marek

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:37
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

I would use a terminal block, not a plug.
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890<http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C328%7C2289986%7C2289993=51890>

Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering and 
going out. I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast. It's 
just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time. There is a split on 
each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get better contact, 
but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one side or the other. 
Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas? 
I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could. There was some corrosion, but 
it's gone now.

As always, thanks a lot.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Marek,

Unless you are trailer sailing, using a screw driver to loosen two wires is
simple enough for me.  I could live with spade connectors to make it easier
than ring connectors.  If the molded connector is going to fail in a season
or two, I don't see the advantage.

Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> But how would you handle connecting and disconnecting every time you step
> or unstep the mast? And how would you protect it from the elements?
>
> I replaced the plugs numerous times and I seem to have a problem doing it
> reliably. And the worst part is that you have reasonably limited time when
> the mast is hanging in the mast crane.
>
> I am using this:
> http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1989-polarized-molded-electrical-connector.
> It works for a season or two; potentially longer, if you don’t disconnect
> it.
>
> I am still looking for a good solution.
>
> I am almost at the point where I am considering drilling through the deck
> and installing the wiring outside of the mast, so that it could be handled
> when the mast is already standing. But I hate to drill a hole and this
> would also put the connector in the harms way from my feet (on occasion).
>
> Marek
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2016 10:37
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet
>
> I would use a terminal block, not a plug.
> http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890
>
> Joel
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light
>> flickering and going out. I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of
>> the mast. It's just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time.
>> There is a split on each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in
>> order to get better contact, but the connection still fails unless I push
>> the plug to one side or the other. Before I pull the outlet and replace it,
>> I wondered if anyone had any ideas? I've also cleaned the outlet as best as
>> I could. There was some corrosion, but it's gone now.
>>
>> As always, thanks a lot.
>>
>> Mark McMenamy
>> C 25 "Icicle"
>> Fort Pierce FL
>> ___
>>
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
>> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
>> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
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>
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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>


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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

But how would you handle connecting and disconnecting every time you step or 
unstep the mast? And how would you protect it from the elements?

I replaced the plugs numerous times and I seem to have a problem doing it 
reliably. And the worst part is that you have reasonably limited time when the 
mast is hanging in the mast crane.

I am using this: 
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1989-polarized-molded-electrical-connector. It 
works for a season or two; potentially longer, if you don’t disconnect it.

I am still looking for a good solution.

I am almost at the point where I am considering drilling through the deck and 
installing the wiring outside of the mast, so that it could be handled when the 
mast is already standing. But I hate to drill a hole and this would also put 
the connector in the harms way from my feet (on occasion).

Marek

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:37
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

I would use a terminal block, not a plug. 
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890


Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  Hello Everyone,

  A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering 
and going out. I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the mast. It's 
just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time. There is a split on 
each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in order to get better contact, 
but the connection still fails unless I push the plug to one side or the other. 
Before I pull the outlet and replace it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas? 
I've also cleaned the outlet as best as I could. There was some corrosion, but 
it's gone now.

  As always, thanks a lot.

  Mark McMenamy
  C 25 "Icicle"
  Fort Pierce FL
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

...and coat everything with TefGel.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would use a terminal block, not a plug.
> http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890
>
> Joel
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light
>> flickering and going out.  I traced the problem to the outlet at the base
>> of the mast.  It's just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the
>> time.  There is a split on each prong of the plug which I have made bigger
>> in order to get better contact, but the connection still fails unless I
>> push the plug to one side or the other.   Before I pull the outlet and
>> replace it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas?   I've also cleaned the
>> outlet as best as I could.  There was some corrosion, but it's gone now.
>>
>> As always, thanks a lot.
>>
>> Mark McMenamy
>> C 25 "Icicle"
>> Fort Pierce FL
>> ___
>>
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
>> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
>> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
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>
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> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List Two Prong DC outlet

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I would use a terminal block, not a plug.
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|328|2289986|2289993=51890

Joel

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> A while back I posted I was having trouble with my anchor light flickering
> and going out.  I traced the problem to the outlet at the base of the
> mast.  It's just a smidge too loose to make good contact all the time.
> There is a split on each prong of the plug which I have made bigger in
> order to get better contact, but the connection still fails unless I push
> the plug to one side or the other.   Before I pull the outlet and replace
> it, I wondered if anyone had any ideas?   I've also cleaned the outlet as
> best as I could.  There was some corrosion, but it's gone now.
>
> As always, thanks a lot.
>
> Mark McMenamy
> C 25 "Icicle"
> Fort Pierce FL
> ___
>
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>



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