Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
Hi David I will email some direct, the list will not support it... Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 On 2016-06-06 5:48 AM, davidjaco...@comcast.net wrote: Graham. If you could post photos of your rudder rebuild I'd appreciate that. I'm guessing it's similar to the 37 but would like to be sure. Thanks, Dave J Saltaire CC35 MK3 Bristol, RI - Original Message - From: Graham Collins via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2016 02:09:24 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder Hi Chris You say re-core it, do you intend to replace all the foam (and new skins), or do the cut open, scoop out saturated foam, refill? I can shoot you some pics of my rudder interior if you want. Where in Halifax are you? Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 BBYC / Waeg - Halifax, NS On 2016-05-25 9:57 AM, Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List wrote: I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? Chris C 37 Northern Light Halifax Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) 2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) 3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) 4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) 5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) 6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 From: Sam Wheeler <samwheeler.s...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel Message-ID:
Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
Graham. If you could post photos of your rudder rebuild I'd appreciate that. I'm guessing it's similar to the 37 but would like to be sure. Thanks, Dave J Saltaire CC35 MK3 Bristol, RI - Original Message - From: Graham Collins via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2016 02:09:24 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder Hi Chris You say re-core it, do you intend to replace all the foam (and new skins), or do the cut open, scoop out saturated foam, refill? I can shoot you some pics of my rudder interior if you want. Where in Halifax are you? Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 BBYC / Waeg - Halifax, NS On 2016-05-25 9:57 AM, Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List wrote: > I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was > wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What > are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? > > Chris > C 37 Northern Light > Halifax > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: >> >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) >>2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) >>3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) >>4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) >>5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) >>6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 >> From: Sam Wheeler <samwheeler.s...@gmail.com> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel >> Message-ID: >>
Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
; > > Hey all - > > > > I?ve got a Simrad WP30 that only seems to like steering to starboard. After > following the instructions in > <https://www.simrad-yachting.com/Root/Operator%20Manual/SimradYachting/English/wp10.pdf> > the manual for holding a course it does nothing except make many small > adjustments to starboard, at which point the boat just goes in circles. The > PO said he thought it had worked at one point, but never used it. The manual > isn?t helpful at all, and these > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f13/simrad-wp30-help-108170.html> > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f13/simrad-wheel-pilot-wp30-16255.html> > posts from Cruisers Forum don?t seem to offer up any solutions. > > > > Is there any hope for my unit, or should I be looking for another? I?m hoping > to do more singlehanded sailing later this year and I?d really like to have > an autopilot for longer passages. The WP30 is exactly the level of > functionality I?m looking for - just something that can hold a course and > tack. Sub $500 would be awesome, I assume at that price I?m going to be > looking for a used unit. Any suggestions? > > > > -- > Andrew Means > S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I > > Seattle, WA > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160525/132ef4ec/attachment-0001.html> > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 19:34:02 -0700 > From: Andrew Means <andrew.cnc...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Simrad WP30 just turns to starboard > Message-ID: <etPan.5746609c.6ad01cf5.2e0@worsley.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I believe the WP30 is a direct drive unit (gears vs. belt) and I can hear the > motor, so I?m pretty sure it?s not trying to adjust to port. > > It also doesn?t have a rudder angle indicator (I think it?s completely > self-contained unit that mounts on the pedestal).? > > --? > Andrew Means > S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I > Seattle, WA > > On May 25, 2016 at 7:24:01 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List > (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote: > > I have an even older Navico WP5000 on my 38, and had a similar problem a > couple of years ago. It would track straight but drift to port ? basically > the wheel would turn when the pilot was adjusting to port but not when the > adjustment was to starboard. Turned out that the belt was worn and slipping > in one direction. A new belt and increasing the tension on the belt fixed my > problem. YMMV. > > ? > > Rick Brass > > Washington, NC > > ? > > ? > > ? > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Means via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:58 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Andrew Means <andrew.cnc...@gmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List Simrad WP30 just turns to starboard > > ? > > Hey all -? > > ? > > I?ve got a Simrad WP30?that only seems to like steering to starboard. After > following the instructions in?the manual?for holding a course it does nothing > except make many small adjustments to starboard, at which point the boat just > goes in circles. The PO said he thought it had worked at one point, but never > used it. The manual isn?t helpful at all, and?these?posts?from Cruisers Forum > don?t seem to offer up any solutions. > > ? > > Is there any hope for my unit, or should I be looking for another? I?m hoping > to do more singlehanded sailing later this year and I?d really like to have > an autopilot for longer passages. The WP30 is exactly the level of > functionality I?m looking for - just something that can hold a course and > tack. Sub $500 would be awesome, I assume at that price I?m going to be > looking for a used unit. Any suggestions?? > > ? > > --? > Andrew Means > S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I > > Seattle, WA > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like > what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions > are greatly appreciated! > -- next part ------ > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160525/d97023fe/attachment-0001.html> > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:58:30 -0400 > From: Lee <lchris11...@aol.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
Josh, What did you use for the new core/foam? Mike Virginia LEE 93295 Cc 36 CB Sent from my iPad Mini > On May 25, 2016, at 09:57, Josh Muckley via CnC-List> wrote: > > Pics of the job when I had mine done. > > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C 37+ > Solomons, MD > >> On May 25, 2016 8:58 AM, "Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List" >> wrote: >> I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was >> wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What >> are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? >> >> Chris >> C 37 Northern Light >> Halifax >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: >> > >> > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> >cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> >cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) >> > 2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) >> > 3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) >> > 4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) >> > 5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) >> > 6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 >> > From: Sam Wheeler >> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel >> > Message-ID: >> >
Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
Graham,I am a fellow owner of a 35 -3 and have potential problems with my rudder also. Iwould be very pleased to have any pictures you have of your rudder interior. Thanks in advance; Lee. Lee Christiansen 1987 c 35 -3 c/b Blue Point NY -Original Message- From: Graham Collins via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wed, May 25, 2016 10:10 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder Hi Chris You say re-core it, do you intend to replace all the foam (and new skins), or do the cut open, scoop out saturated foam, refill? I can shoot you some pics of my rudder interior if you want. Where in Halifax are you? Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 BBYC / Waeg - Halifax, NS On 2016-05-25 9:57 AM, Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List wrote: I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? Chris C 37 Northern Light Halifax Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) 2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) 3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) 4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) 5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) 6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 From: Sam Wheeler <samwheeler.s...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel Message-ID:
Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
Hi Chris You say re-core it, do you intend to replace all the foam (and new skins), or do the cut open, scoop out saturated foam, refill? I can shoot you some pics of my rudder interior if you want. Where in Halifax are you? Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 BBYC / Waeg - Halifax, NS On 2016-05-25 9:57 AM, Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List wrote: I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? Chris C 37 Northern Light Halifax Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) 2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) 3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) 4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) 5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) 6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 From: Sam WheelerTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel Message-ID:
Re: Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
Pics of the job when I had mine done. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On May 25, 2016 8:58 AM, "Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was > wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What > are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? > > Chris > C 37 Northern Light > Halifax > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > >cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > >cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) > > 2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) > > 3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) > > 4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) > > 5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) > > 6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 > > From: Sam Wheeler> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel > > Message-ID: > >
Stus-List Dropping the Rudder
I'm planning to drop the rudder on my 37 and re-core it with foam, and was wondering what I should look for and expect when doing this operation? What are the steps involved and what challenges have other listers encountered? Chris C 37 Northern Light Halifax Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2016, at 11:19 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at >cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) > 2. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Kevin Driscoll) > 3. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (randy.staff...@comcast.net) > 4. Re: Head Foil Feed Funnel (Sam Wheeler) > 5. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Jake Brodersen) > 6. Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Dave) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:38:50 -0700 > From: Sam Wheeler> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Foil Feed Funnel > Message-ID: >
Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2
I'd like to drop the rudder on my 29 mkII after it's hauled this fall. Any advise or things to watch out for? Removing the steering quadrant is pretty straight forward as long as the bolts aren't frozen. I'm not sure about what is going on at the upper and of the rudder shaft at the cockpit sole. I looks like there is possibly a bearing just beneath the fitting where the emergency tiller attaches. Has anyone been there? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2
I've done mine twice. 1st time was a bear, the bolts in the quadrant were seized solid, so ended up cutting the quadrant off the shaft. There should be a round donut at the top of the rudder shaft, just below the square part that the emergency rudder would fit on. There is either a pin that goes all the way through, or there are 2 set screws 45 degrees apart from one another. If you remove those, and the quadrant is off, the whole thing will slide out without an issue. I used some blocking on a bench mate to keep the rudder from dropping to the ground. 1 6X6 under the cradle should give ample room to clear the hull. On mine, someone had stripped the set screws, and rather than tap out a bigger one, put helicoils in...which weren't compatable with the surrounding metal, so had to cut that off too. -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Senior Manager Halifax, NS Ph: 902-880-8243 On 16/10/2012 7:46 PM, Ted Drossos wrote: I'd like to drop the rudder on my 29 mkII after it's hauled this fall. Any advise or things to watch out for? Removing the steering quadrant is pretty straight forward as long as the bolts aren't frozen. I'm not sure about what is going on at the upper and of the rudder shaft at the cockpit sole. I looks like there is possibly a bearing just beneath the fitting where the emergency tiller attaches. Has anyone been there? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Boat_Sig Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag CC 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2
Ted No experience but would like to hear what you find just in case I ever need to do the same Paul Waldeck C C 29-2 Second Wind _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ted Drossos Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:46 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2 I'd like to drop the rudder on my 29 mkII after it's hauled this fall. Any advise or things to watch out for? Removing the steering quadrant is pretty straight forward as long as the bolts aren't frozen. I'm not sure about what is going on at the upper and of the rudder shaft at the cockpit sole. I looks like there is possibly a bearing just beneath the fitting where the emergency tiller attaches. Has anyone been there? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2
Me too! Me too! randy Tamanawas 29-II Hood River, OR From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of paul waldeck Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2 Ted No experience but would like to hear what you find just in case I ever need to do the same Paul Waldeck C C 29-2 Second Wind _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ted Drossos Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:46 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2 I'd like to drop the rudder on my 29 mkII after it's hauled this fall. Any advise or things to watch out for? Removing the steering quadrant is pretty straight forward as long as the bolts aren't frozen. I'm not sure about what is going on at the upper and of the rudder shaft at the cockpit sole. I looks like there is possibly a bearing just beneath the fitting where the emergency tiller attaches. Has anyone been there? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com