Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Our C 37/40+ does not have a blower for the engine compartment. Other than trying to remove fumes from the bilge, I'm not even certain how I would mount one as the engine is well contained under the companionway stairs. We do, however have a proper propane locker with a drain, and I am of the opinion that propane canisters should never be stored in a locker even if you have a blower, as propane is heavier than air, and I don't think you can guarantee pulling it all out of the bilge. Bruce Whitmore 1994 C 37/40+"Astralis" (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Hi Mike, I see your point on additional source of petroleum products.. Coming from a gas burning boat engine past I inquired about that when I first got the boat, "You don't need one with a diesel" is the answer I got. Also, there is no blower or any indication that there ever was one installed on my boat. Apparently, C didn't think it was needed and the applicable laws at the time of certification did not require it. I don't carry gasoline on board / my dinghy is a kayak. But if I was cruising with cans full of gasoline in my lazarette, it's hard to argue that it would not be a good idea to vent the area before starting the engine Regards, -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Cumming, GA Whoa hold on there I consider Persuasion a floating bomb. I carry dinghy fuel, generator fuel and propane in the lazerette. So if you are a cruiser and carry various petroleum products I would recommend running the blower. Also my coast guards friends to the south asked me in a had a blower and requested I turn it on when I was boarded for an inspection Mike > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > When to run a blower with a Diesel? > > Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first place. > > Best Regards, > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > Lake Lanier, GA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
My diesel runs hot and if I open the inspection doors, temp drops by 8-10 degrees….wouldn’t the blower also help in cooling the engine compartment? > On Sep 30, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Rod Stright via CnC-List > wrote: > > That is the law in Canada according to Transport Canada for enclosed gasoline > engines here in Canada. > > Regards > Rod Stright > > From: CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf Of John Christopher via > CnC-List > Sent: September-30-19 1:22 PM > To: Francois Rivard <mailto:jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com>> > Cc: John Christopher mailto:phygi...@gmail.com>>; > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower > > Don’t disagree, but my 1983 LF 38 manual says run blower for 5 minutes before > starting engine. > > /John > > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard <mailto:jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> When to run a blower with a Diesel? >> >> Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first >> place. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> -Francois Rivard >> 1990 34+ "Take Five" >> Lake Lanier, GA >> >> > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
That is the law in Canada according to Transport Canada for enclosed gasoline engines here in Canada. Regards Rod Stright From: CnC-List On Behalf Of John Christopher via CnC-List Sent: September-30-19 1:22 PM To: Francois Rivard Cc: John Christopher ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower Don’t disagree, but my 1983 LF 38 manual says run blower for 5 minutes before starting engine. /John On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard mailto:jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com> > wrote: When to run a blower with a Diesel? Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first place. Best Regards, -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Diesels love clean fuel and lots or air. Ours is wired into start circuit as the 12v refrig compressor is in the same air space as engine. Both very happy and, I believe, run the better for it From: CnC-List on behalf of Mike Taylor via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 11:29:26 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Mike Taylor Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower Whoa hold on there I consider Persuasion a floating bomb. I carry dinghy fuel, generator fuel and propane in the lazerette. So if you are a cruiser and carry various petroleum products I would recommend running the blower. Also my coast guards friends to the south asked me in a had a blower and requested I turn it on when I was boarded for an inspection Mike > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard via CnC-List > wrote: > > When to run a blower with a Diesel? > > Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first place. > > Best Regards, > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > Lake Lanier, GA > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Storing propane in a lazarette could be dangerous, even with a blower. On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 8:30 AM Mike Taylor via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Whoa hold on there > > I consider Persuasion a floating bomb. I carry dinghy fuel, generator > fuel and propane in the lazerette. So if you are a cruiser and carry > various petroleum products I would recommend running the blower. Also my > coast guards friends to the south asked me in a had a blower and requested > I turn it on when I was boarded for an inspection > > Mike > > > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > When to run a blower with a Diesel? > > > > Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first > place. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > -Francois Rivard > > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > > Lake Lanier, GA > > > > > > ___ > > > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Excuse the brevity. Sent from my phone. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Don’t disagree, but my 1983 LF 38 manual says run blower for 5 minutes before starting engine. /John > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Francois Rivard > wrote: > > When to run a blower with a Diesel? > > Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first place. > > > Best Regards, > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > Lake Lanier, GA > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
On a hot summer evening, if you've had the engine running, and you plan to sleep aboard, to get rid of some of the heat perhaps? I run mine when the engine is running because it is wired that way but I don't really need to, the diesel sucks most of the hot air out of the engine compartment just by running. Ken H. On Monday, 30 September 2019, David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I believe I have a blower in my engine compartment, but I have never turned it on. When should it be run on a diesel engine? Dave > > On Sep 27, 2019, at 9:42 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The bilge pump and blower might have a common return. Follow the (probably) black wires from the bilge pump and the blower to see whether you have a bad ground. > The blower on my boat has an in-line fuse, located close to the blower switch, if you want to check that out. > > S/V Aries > 1990 C 34+ > New London, CT > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
As I understand it, the main purpose of the blower is to vent gasoline fumes out of the engine compartment to eliminate (or greatly reduce) the risk of explosion. Diesel fumes don’t present an explosion risk as far as I know. Nevertheless, I run the blower on my boat (diesel engine) when I’m running the engine for an extended period of time as it cuts down on the diesel smell in the compartment (and, in turn, the rest of the boat). From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 10:40 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower I believe I have a blower in my engine compartment, but I have never turned it on. When should it be run on a diesel engine? Dave On Sep 27, 2019, at 9:42 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote: The bilge pump and blower might have a common return. Follow the (probably) black wires from the bilge pump and the blower to see whether you have a bad ground. The blower on my boat has an in-line fuse, located close to the blower switch, if you want to check that out. S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
When to run a blower with a Diesel? Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first place. Best Regards, -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
I believe I have a blower in my engine compartment, but I have never turned it on. When should it be run on a diesel engine? Dave > On Sep 27, 2019, at 9:42 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List > wrote: > > The bilge pump and blower might have a common return. Follow the (probably) > black wires from the bilge pump and the blower to see whether you have a bad > ground. > > The blower on my boat has an in-line fuse, located close to the blower > switch, if you want to check that out. S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
The bilge pump and blower might have a common return. Follow the (probably) black wires from the bilge pump and the blower to see whether you have a bad ground. The blower on my boat has an in-line fuse, located close to the blower switch, if you want to check that out. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:31 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Interestingly, I had a bilge pump issue and thought it was the pump and > then the switch and finally found the wires had corroded and broken at a > set of butt connectors hidden as the wires exited the bilge to run up to > the switch panel. > > Food for thought, > > Bruce Whitmore > 1994 C 37/40+ > Astralis > > > _ > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Interestingly, I had a bilge pump issue and thought it was the pump and then the switch and finally found the wires had corroded and broken at a set of butt connectors hidden as the wires exited the bilge to run up to the switch panel.Food for thought, Bruce Whitmore 1994 C 37/40+ AstralisSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Jim Watts via CnC-List Date: 9/27/19 6:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 1 CnC List Cc: Jim Watts Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower I would start at the switch. See if it actually closes the circuit and if there is any power getting to it (one multimeter lead to power input on switch, one lead to ground). Then you'll know which way to work. Jim WattsParadigm ShiftC 35 Mk IIIVictoria, BCOn Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 15:21, Patrick Gateley via CnC-List wrote:Noticed the other day that my engine compartment bilge pump and blower have stopped working. I suspect a fuse but don't really know where to look. The bilge pump and blower switches are both port of the stairs and within a couple inches of one another. Anyone know where to start troubleshooting? I've got a decent multimeter and some electrical know how Thanks,Patrick Gateley1988 C 44___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
I would start at the switch. See if it actually closes the circuit and if there is any power getting to it (one multimeter lead to power input on switch, one lead to ground). Then you'll know which way to work. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 15:21, Patrick Gateley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Noticed the other day that my engine compartment bilge pump and blower > have stopped working. I suspect a fuse but don't really know where to > look. The bilge pump and blower switches are both port of the stairs and > within a couple inches of one another. Anyone know where to start > troubleshooting? I've got a decent multimeter and some electrical know how > > Thanks, > > Patrick Gateley > 1988 C 44 > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Engine compartment bilge pump and blower
Noticed the other day that my engine compartment bilge pump and blower have stopped working. I suspect a fuse but don't really know where to look. The bilge pump and blower switches are both port of the stairs and within a couple inches of one another. Anyone know where to start troubleshooting? I've got a decent multimeter and some electrical know how Thanks, Patrick Gateley 1988 C 44___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
