Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
They left the original one in place and just capped it off inside.  So
nothing to patch or paint.

Ken H.

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 09:10, David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Maybe when I repaint and can fill hole…but in the meantime.
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Heaton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 7:48 AM
> *To:* cnc-list 
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app
>
>
>
> At some point in the past, a past owner moved the Fuel Tank vent from the
> outside of the hull to the inside of the Propane Locker, which is
> right next to the fuel fill on our 37 XL.  The reason was to make it
> impossible for the fuel vent to draw water into the fuel tank with the rail
> under.  This new location is very helpful when filling the tank as it is
> easy to listen to for the change in sound when filling.  Even if it spits
> out a wee bit of fuel, it is easy to clean up as it is contained within
> the propane locker so can be cleaned up quickly before it goes out the
> propane locker drain.
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 07:53, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> When I top up fuel I listen with my ear close to the fill and when I hear
> the gurgle change pitch I stop filling. You can get an idea of what I’m
> talking about by getting an empty wine bottle—something we all have kicking
> around these days—and listening as you fill it from the tap. When it’s just
> about full the noise of water gets higher. Doing this I never had fuel come
> out my vent on my 40.
>
> An important note, empty the water out of the wine bottle when you’re
> finished the experiment so you don’t accidentally consume the stuff. Fish
> s*** in it!
>
> Andy
>
> Masquerade
>
> Andrew Burton
>
> 26 Beacon Hill
>
> Newport, RI
>
> USA02840
>
>
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> +401 965-5260
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 22:41, David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent
> "catchers"  or some other arrangement?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>
>
>
> 26 Beacon Hill
>
> Newport, RI
>
> USA02840
>
>
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> +401 965-5260
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
All this tank talk makes me feel good, since my 40 year old aluminum tank
started oozing fuel a couple years ago - I replaced it with a plastic tank.
I can now just look at the tank and see the fuel level. Ducked that problem
- and the gauge on the new tank isn't that accurate.

 

Gary Nylander, 30-1

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

 

So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent
"catchers"  or some other arrangement?

Thanks. 

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app 

 

Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly
important safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at
cruising speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel
consumption in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I
know that if I run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel
will give out sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank
because with 5 extra gallons handy I've run the tank dry. Bleeding the
engine is easy and a handy skill to possess. 

One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube
and a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good
handle on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on
Masquerade soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight
tube; basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and
another at the top directly above and connect them with a clear or
translucent hose. Simple and elegant.

The only fuel gauges I've seen that consistently work are the ones where you
pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it's called a Tank
Tender.

Good luck

Andy

Masquerade

Currently in Oxford, MD

Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow

Andrew Burton 

26 Beacon Hill

Newport, RI 

USA02840

 

www.burtonsailing.com <http://www.burtonsailing.com> 

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ 

+401 965-5260

 

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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Wasn’t there a little catch container with suction cups one could use?

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

Maybe when I repaint and can fill hole…but in the meantime.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Cc: Ken Heaton mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

At some point in the past, a past owner moved the Fuel Tank vent from the 
outside of the hull to the inside of the Propane Locker, which is right next to 
the fuel fill on our 37 XL.  The reason was to make it impossible for the fuel 
vent to draw water into the fuel tank with the rail under.  This new location 
is very helpful when filling the tank as it is easy to listen to for the change 
in sound when filling.  Even if it spits out a wee bit of fuel, it is easy to 
clean up as it is contained within the propane locker so can be cleaned up 
quickly before it goes out the propane locker drain.

Ken H.

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 07:53, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
When I top up fuel I listen with my ear close to the fill and when I hear the 
gurgle change pitch I stop filling. You can get an idea of what I’m talking 
about by getting an empty wine bottle—something we all have kicking around 
these days—and listening as you fill it from the tap. When it’s just about full 
the noise of water gets higher. Doing this I never had fuel come out my vent on 
my 40.
An important note, empty the water out of the wine bottle when you’re finished 
the experiment so you don’t accidentally consume the stuff. Fish s*** in it!
Andy
Masquerade
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Mar 24, 2020, at 22:41, David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent 
"catchers"  or some other arrangement?
Thanks.
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


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of Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Andrew Burton mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly important 
safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at cruising 
speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel consumption 
in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I know that if I 
run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel will give out 
sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank because with 5 extra 
gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the engine is easy and a handy 
skill to possess.
One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube and 
a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good handle 
on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on Masquerade 
soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight tube; 
basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and another at 
the top directly above and connect them with a clear or translucent hose. 
Simple and elegant.
The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where you 
pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a Tank Tender.
Good luck
Andy
Masquerade
Currently in Oxford, MD
Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Maybe when I repaint and can fill hole…but in the meantime.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 7:48 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

At some point in the past, a past owner moved the Fuel Tank vent from the 
outside of the hull to the inside of the Propane Locker, which is right next to 
the fuel fill on our 37 XL.  The reason was to make it impossible for the fuel 
vent to draw water into the fuel tank with the rail under.  This new location 
is very helpful when filling the tank as it is easy to listen to for the change 
in sound when filling.  Even if it spits out a wee bit of fuel, it is easy to 
clean up as it is contained within the propane locker so can be cleaned up 
quickly before it goes out the propane locker drain.

Ken H.

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 07:53, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
When I top up fuel I listen with my ear close to the fill and when I hear the 
gurgle change pitch I stop filling. You can get an idea of what I’m talking 
about by getting an empty wine bottle—something we all have kicking around 
these days—and listening as you fill it from the tap. When it’s just about full 
the noise of water gets higher. Doing this I never had fuel come out my vent on 
my 40.
An important note, empty the water out of the wine bottle when you’re finished 
the experiment so you don’t accidentally consume the stuff. Fish s*** in it!
Andy
Masquerade
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Mar 24, 2020, at 22:41, David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent 
"catchers"  or some other arrangement?
Thanks.
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:28:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Andrew Burton mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly important 
safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at cruising 
speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel consumption 
in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I know that if I 
run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel will give out 
sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank because with 5 extra 
gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the engine is easy and a handy 
skill to possess.
One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube and 
a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good handle 
on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on Masquerade 
soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight tube; 
basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and another at 
the top directly above and connect them with a clear or translucent hose. 
Simple and elegant.
The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where you 
pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a Tank Tender.
Good luck
Andy
Masquerade
Currently in Oxford, MD
Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
At some point in the past, a past owner moved the Fuel Tank vent from the
outside of the hull to the inside of the Propane Locker, which is
right next to the fuel fill on our 37 XL.  The reason was to make it
impossible for the fuel vent to draw water into the fuel tank with the rail
under.  This new location is very helpful when filling the tank as it is
easy to listen to for the change in sound when filling.  Even if it spits
out a wee bit of fuel, it is easy to clean up as it is contained within
the propane locker so can be cleaned up quickly before it goes out the
propane locker drain.

Ken H.

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 07:53, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> When I top up fuel I listen with my ear close to the fill and when I hear
> the gurgle change pitch I stop filling. You can get an idea of what I’m
> talking about by getting an empty wine bottle—something we all have kicking
> around these days—and listening as you fill it from the tap. When it’s just
> about full the noise of water gets higher. Doing this I never had fuel come
> out my vent on my 40.
> An important note, empty the water out of the wine bottle when you’re
> finished the experiment so you don’t accidentally consume the stuff. Fish
> s*** in it!
> Andy
> Masquerade
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 22:41, David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent
> "catchers"  or some other arrangement?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Andrew
> Burton via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:28:36 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* Andrew Burton 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app
>
> Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly
> important safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at
> cruising speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel
> consumption in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I
> know that if I run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my
> fuel will give out sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my
> tank because with 5 extra gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the
> engine is easy and a handy skill to possess.
> One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a
> tube and a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a
> good handle on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank
> on Masquerade soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a
> sight tube; basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank
> and another at the top directly above and connect them with a clear or
> translucent hose. Simple and elegant.
> The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where
> you pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a
> Tank Tender.
> Good luck
> Andy
> Masquerade
> Currently in Oxford, MD
> Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Use that method...but more often than I like I dribble fuel.  Need a better and 
cleaner method.  Have a whistle for dockside high capacity, but may install a T 
at vent line high boat with an over flow bottle for jerry fills.  Anyone try 
this?

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:52:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

When I top up fuel I listen with my ear close to the fill and when I hear the 
gurgle change pitch I stop filling. You can get an idea of what I’m talking 
about by getting an empty wine bottle—something we all have kicking around 
these days—and listening as you fill it from the tap. When it’s just about full 
the noise of water gets higher. Doing this I never had fuel come out my vent on 
my 40.
An important note, empty the water out of the wine bottle when you’re finished 
the experiment so you don’t accidentally consume the stuff. Fish s*** in it!
Andy
Masquerade

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Mar 24, 2020, at 22:41, David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent 
"catchers"  or some other arrangement?

Thanks.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Andrew Burton mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly important 
safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at cruising 
speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel consumption 
in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I know that if I 
run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel will give out 
sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank because with 5 extra 
gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the engine is easy and a handy 
skill to possess.
One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube and 
a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good handle 
on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on Masquerade 
soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight tube; 
basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and another at 
the top directly above and connect them with a clear or translucent hose. 
Simple and elegant.
The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where you 
pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a Tank Tender.
Good luck
Andy
Masquerade
Currently in Oxford, MD
Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-25 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
When I top up fuel I listen with my ear close to the fill and when I hear the 
gurgle change pitch I stop filling. You can get an idea of what I’m talking 
about by getting an empty wine bottle—something we all have kicking around 
these days—and listening as you fill it from the tap. When it’s just about full 
the noise of water gets higher. Doing this I never had fuel come out my vent on 
my 40.
An important note, empty the water out of the wine bottle when you’re finished 
the experiment so you don’t accidentally consume the stuff. Fish s*** in it!
Andy
Masquerade

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 24, 2020, at 22:41, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent 
> "catchers"  or some other arrangement?
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
> 
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Andrew Burton via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:28:36 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app
>  
> Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly 
> important safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at 
> cruising speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel 
> consumption in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I 
> know that if I run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel 
> will give out sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank 
> because with 5 extra gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the engine 
> is easy and a handy skill to possess.
> One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube 
> and a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good 
> handle on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on 
> Masquerade soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight 
> tube; basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and 
> another at the top directly above and connect them with a clear or 
> translucent hose. Simple and elegant.
> The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where you 
> pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a Tank 
> Tender.
> Good luck
> Andy
> Masquerade
> Currently in Oxford, MD
> Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-24 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
My gauge works somewhat, although it reads just over 3/4 when full, and
I've never run it empty, and have topped it off when the gauge reads 1/4
(only happened once). The gauge is old an of unknown make, so I will
probably replace it at some point, but I like the idea of a dipstick. Easy
to do, as the tank sticks out a few inches into the stbd locker, so I could
easily drill another hole in the large 1/4" aluminum plate were all the
fittings are. A brass plug from a pencil zinc would work perfectly for an
easy to use stick holder that could be sealed to prevent leaks, and I
probably have all the pieces on hand already...  Thanks for the idea!

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shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:29 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly
> important safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at
> cruising speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel
> consumption in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I
> know that if I run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my
> fuel will give out sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my
> tank because with 5 extra gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the
> engine is easy and a handy skill to possess.
> One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a
> tube and a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a
> good handle on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank
> on Masquerade soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a
> sight tube; basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank
> and another at the top directly above and connect them with a clear or
> translucent hose. Simple and elegant.
> The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where
> you pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a
> Tank Tender.
> Good luck
> Andy
> Masquerade
> Currently in Oxford, MD
> Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-24 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
So how do folks "fill" condistently without vent spill.  One of those vent 
"catchers"  or some other arrangement?

Thanks.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Andrew Burton via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:28:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly important 
safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at cruising 
speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel consumption 
in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I know that if I 
run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel will give out 
sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank because with 5 extra 
gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the engine is easy and a handy 
skill to possess.
One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube and 
a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good handle 
on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on Masquerade 
soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight tube; 
basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and another at 
the top directly above and connect them with a clear or translucent hose. 
Simple and elegant.
The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where you 
pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a Tank Tender.
Good luck
Andy
Masquerade
Currently in Oxford, MD
Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-24 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Tracking your fuel consumption and fuel available is really a fairly important 
safety measure. I filled my tank and ran my boats for 12 hours at cruising 
speed and then filled up again. It was pretty easy to figure fuel consumption 
in gallon/ hour and get a good idea of my range under power. I know that if I 
run at lower rpms I can go longer and if I run faster my fuel will give out 
sooner. I also have a good idea of the capacity of my tank because with 5 extra 
gallons handy I’ve run the tank dry. Bleeding the engine is easy and a handy 
skill to possess.
One of the few ways a Swan is better than a Baltic is that they have a tube and 
a calibrated dipstick for water and fuel tanks so up you can get a good handle 
on your remaining fuel. I plan to install a way to dip my tank on Masquerade 
soon. Another great way to monitor tank level is to have a sight tube; 
basically you have an elbow coming out the bottom of the tank and another at 
the top directly above and connect them with a clear or translucent hose. 
Simple and elegant.
The only fuel gauges I’ve seen that consistently work are the ones where you 
pump them up at the gauge and take a reading. I think it’s called a Tank Tender.
Good luck
Andy
Masquerade
Currently in Oxford, MD
Planning to start back toward Newport tomorrow

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tracker app

2020-03-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Yes, a phone app.

I currently, like several of us on the list, track fuel usage manually.
Every gallon of fuel Touche' has used for the last 15+ years has been
dutifully logged with the date, amount, location, fill up (yes/no), the
knotlog miles and the engine hours.  Another column lists the gallons per
hour manually calculated.  I calculate long term average gallons per hour
as well as gallons per hour for individual trips.  Any deviation of
individual trip GPH from long term average GPH could indicate an engine
problem, dirty bottom, problem with propeller, etc.

So far I have resisted the urge to do a spreadsheet for all that.

I just thought it would be nice to have a phone app that did most if not
all of that.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA






On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:46 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Are you talking about a phone app? It is simple division, miles traveled
> and gallons used gives MPG or hours run and gallons used gives GPH. You can
> substitute hours for miles no problem.
>
> Not sure why you need an app for that though??
>
> An actual device to measure fuel used is an amazing thing and vastly
> superior to a gas gauge. I use them flying frequently and the best ones tie
> to the GPS to give you a NMPG reading and set off an alarm if you won’t
> make the next waypoint with enough fuel. They all will show gallons used,
> gallons remaining, and instantaneous GPH.
>
> The problems for our boats are twofold:
>
> 1.  A diesel has a return line, so you need two sensors to keep track
> of actual fuel used.
>
> 2.  Our engines burn so little fuel that many totalizers will fail to
> read correctly. If it is designed for say 0-100 GPH, it might be quite
> inaccurate in the pint to quart to half gallon an hour range.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> * one more thing, they rely on accurate user input of gallons added. Air
> Canada famously ran a jet out of fuel because the fuel gauges were broken
> and they relied on the totalizer. They ordered say 3,000 gallons and got
> 3,000 liters or similar, programmed in the larger incorrect number, and ran
> out with no warning.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dennis C.
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:58 AM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Fuel tracker app
>
>
>
> Anybody found a good app to track fuel usage by engine hours?  Most of the
> ones I've looked at track by mileage not engine hours.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
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2020-03-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Are you talking about a phone app? It is simple division, miles traveled and 
gallons used gives MPG or hours run and gallons used gives GPH. You can 
substitute hours for miles no problem.
Not sure why you need an app for that though??
An actual device to measure fuel used is an amazing thing and vastly superior 
to a gas gauge. I use them flying frequently and the best ones tie to the GPS 
to give you a NMPG reading and set off an alarm if you won’t make the next 
waypoint with enough fuel. They all will show gallons used, gallons remaining, 
and instantaneous GPH.
The problems for our boats are twofold:

1.  A diesel has a return line, so you need two sensors to keep track of 
actual fuel used.

2.  Our engines burn so little fuel that many totalizers will fail to read 
correctly. If it is designed for say 0-100 GPH, it might be quite inaccurate in 
the pint to quart to half gallon an hour range.

Joe
Coquina
* one more thing, they rely on accurate user input of gallons added. Air Canada 
famously ran a jet out of fuel because the fuel gauges were broken and they 
relied on the totalizer. They ordered say 3,000 gallons and got 3,000 liters or 
similar, programmed in the larger incorrect number, and ran out with no warning.

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:58 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Fuel tracker app

Anybody found a good app to track fuel usage by engine hours?  Most of the ones 
I've looked at track by mileage not engine hours.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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2020-03-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Anybody found a good app to track fuel usage by engine hours?  Most of the
ones I've looked at track by mileage not engine hours.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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