Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Hi Ryan (and Andrew R. White, if you're still on the list), 

I'll take you up on your offer to answer questions about getting a pump in that 
deep forward bilge sump. 

If I'm reading correctly, you didn't rebuild your mast step? That is one of the 
offseason projects I'll be tackling this winter, basically following the 
prescriptions of 
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/maststep/maststep.htm, including 
re-doing all the bilge pump plumbing. 

I've put pictures of my current mast step support situation at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTSzRLbFo0NDl6U1E . When I put all 
my weight on the aft mast step support I can see it deflect downward a quarter 
inch or so. The PO created a custom big wooden wedge to cram down into that 
forward sump, which I don't like for two reasons: 1) it transfers the 
compressive load onto the keel and I worry about that force separating the keel 
joint; and 2) it prevents putting a pump in there and keeping that space dry. 

Once I rebuild the supports and get that wedge out of there, I'm pretty sure my 
boat's current Rule pump (or a replacement for it) will fit in there. 

So I guess my first questions are: 

1. How many mast step supports are these early 30-1s supposed to have? (I have 
hull #7, built September 1972) As you can see, mine only has two. But the 
above-linked DIY story by Andrew R. White shows three. 

2. Would there be any harm in cutting out the thin fiberglass ends of that 
"well" formed by the mast step supports? You can see them in the pictures of my 
boat on the aft side of the forward mast step support and on the forward side 
of the aft mast step support. But there are none in the picture in the 
above-linked DIY story. 

3. So, what exactly did you do to get a pump into that forward bilge sump? 
Assuming I make new mast step supports out of fiberglass board like Andrew R. 
White did, I'll leave a gap or drill a big hole at the bottom of them, so water 
and bilge pump hoses can run into that forward sump where a pump will be. 

Thanks in Advance, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Ryan Doyle" <ryanpdo...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:12:43 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale 

Thanks Randy. Sounds like you have a really nice old 30. If you ever have 
questions about the bilge pump situation and what I did (especially about 
getting a pump in that forward bilge), wiring, keel joint seal, etc. etc. I'd 
be more than happy to tell you what I did and how I did it. 




Message: 1 
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:47:16 + (UTC) 
From: RANDY < randy.staff...@comcast.net > 
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Cc: Ryan Doyle < ryanpdo...@gmail.com > 
Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale 
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Hi Ryan, 

That's a very impressive list of projects, and a good-looking boat. As a data 
point, when I bought my 1972 30-1 hull #7 in January, I looked at comparables I 
could find online at the time - five of them from 1972 to 1976 - and the 
average price was $13,650 (range $9,500-$17,650). 

I paid nearly twice what you're asking, for a 30-1 with spinnaker and good 38' 
triple-axle trailer, and recent projects done by the PO included: new 
batteries, solar panel, and charge controller; all through-hulls rebedded; new 
bottom paint; all winches rebuilt and backing plates installed; new head and 
holding tank; new head countertop; all cushions recovered; all windows 
re-sealed; and a new traveler. 

This year I installed a spare tire / carrier wheel on the trailer, refinished 
the boot stripe, buffed and waxed the topsides, painted the bottom, added 
curtains and throw rugs inside, replaced some running rigging, replaced the 
headfoil, installed a vang, added a masthead SailTimer wind instrument, and 
re-did the bunks and guides on the trailer. 

But in the future I will be doing a lot of the projects you've already done: 
rebedding the chainplates; rebuilding the mast step support and overhauling the 
bilge pump system; re-doing fuel tank straps and vent and wiring; refinishing 
the topsides; servicing the A4; rewiring; replacing compasses; resealing the 
keel joint; etc. 

For the difference between what I paid for my boat and what you're asking for 
yours, somebody could probably restore the interior of yours to the original 
layout, and they'd have a hell of a nice 30-1 with all the improvements you've 
made, and the instrumentation you've added, etc. I really like the tiller 
steering and boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom (which it looks like you 
have) - my boat is set up the same way, and it makes

Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Franklin Schenk via CnC-List]

Ryan,
It is called "Caveat Emptor" or let the buyer beware.  I will now shut up and 
let you guys get back to business.
FrankC 29
 

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:58 AM, Ryan Doyle  
wrote:
 

 Thanks Frank.  I'm sorry to hear about that Columbia.  If I sold this boat to 
someone who let her go like that I'd be heartbroken. 
I had two showings last weekend - one was a couple who knew their way around 
the boat, the second were two people who I think stumbled down the dock from a 
bar up the street.  They clearly had no idea what they were looking at!  
Much to my wife's chagrin I do a lot of research I pretty much read up on 
sailboats and look at listings during every ounce of my free time.
And thanks for the warnings about Craigslist.  I get scam calls all the time, 
but I'm pretty good at figuring out who's legit.  I've also got her on Boat 
Trader.  
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Franklin Schenk  wrote:


You should have no problem selling your boat at that price.  I hope you find a 
buyer who will appreciate all you have done.  My past experience has shown that 
many, if not most, boat buyers are ignorant.  I sold my Columbia 26 MKII for 
$2700 which was far below the average price of $4000.  It was in very good 
condition and had an almost new 9.8 electric start motor.  I felt I had my 
monies worth after 38 years.  After 4 years and three other owners it sold for 
$2950 and it was a total wreck with no motor.  I would only pay about $1000 for 
a boat in that condition.  The buyer had never owned a boat and obviously never 
checked the price of a similar boat.  Sorry for the rant but I hope you guys do 
your homework before buying or selling a boat.
FrankC 29  

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 9:42 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.  

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.
She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell 
by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.  
I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
like to see her. 
The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades:
-Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge 
duplex)-New bottom paint spring 2016-Hull paint spring 2016-Deck and grip paint 
summer 2016-Water pump rebuilt spring 2016-Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve 
installed spring 2016-Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 -New fuel 
tank straps, ground, and fill ground-New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main 
breaker panel - winter 2015-2016-Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 
2016-All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015-New Raymarine i40 depth 
finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016-New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS 
chartplotter  - April 2016-New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 
2016-New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016-New 
low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016-New engine blower fan and 
hose - March 2016-New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016-New fuel tank 
vent hose - Nov 2015-New interior ventilation fans - April 2016-New main bilge 
pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016-New forward switched Rule 500gph electric 
bilge pump for forward bilge - April 2016-New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 
2015-New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016
Ryan

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Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Franklin Schenk via CnC-List]

Mike,
The second owner was a friend of the guy I sold it to and he knew that it was 
worth $1000 or more.  After removing the motor he gave the boat to a guy who 
ran a dog rescue organization.  It was now a tax write off so he made money off 
of a free gift.  The dog guy is a real crook who sell boats to people who 
cannot afford them.  He then takes them back when they cannot keep up the 
payment. Yes, there are crooks out there in the boat buying and selling 
business.
Frank 

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:57 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 

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electric start motor costs (over $2700) and ruined it.  Possibly they did know 
and sold it separately and then figure they can double their money by also 
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Halifax, NS    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf 
Of Franklin Schenk via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Franklin Schenk; Ryan Doyle
Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale    You should 
have no problem selling your boat at that price.  I hope you find a buyer who 
will appreciate all you have done.  My past experience has shown that many, if 
not most, boat buyers are ignorant.  I sold my Columbia 26 MKII for $2700 which 
was far below the average price of $4000.  It was in very good condition and 
had an almost new 9.8 electric start motor.  I felt I had my monies worth after 
38 years.  After 4 years and three other owners it sold for $2950 and it was a 
total wreck with no motor.  I would only pay about $1000 for a boat in that 
condition.  The buyer had never owned a boat and obviously never checked the 
price of a similar boat.  Sorry for the rant but I hope you guys do your 
homework before buying or selling a boat.    Frank C 29     On Thursday, 
September 1, 2016 9:42 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:    Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.  

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.    She's 
at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell by Sept 
24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the Sheepshead 
Bay Yacht club.      I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for 
Hermine if anyone would like to see her.  
The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades: -Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, 
insulated 14 gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 
gauge duplex) -New bottom paint spring 2016 -Hull paint spring 2016 -Deck and 
grip paint summer 2016 -Water pump rebuilt spring 2016 -Ignition switch fuel 
solenoid valve installed spring 2016 -Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy 

Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Ryan. I may want to pick your brains about the fuel tank vent 
replacement project. My boat came with a really kludgy fuel tank vent hose - it 
winds all over the starboard lazaret like a snake. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Ryan Doyle" <ryanpdo...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:12:43 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale 

Thanks Randy. Sounds like you have a really nice old 30. If you ever have 
questions about the bilge pump situation and what I did (especially about 
getting a pump in that forward bilge), wiring, keel joint seal, etc. etc. I'd 
be more than happy to tell you what I did and how I did it. 




Message: 1 
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:47:16 + (UTC) 
From: RANDY < randy.staff...@comcast.net > 
To: cnc-list < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: Ryan Doyle < ryanpdo...@gmail.com > 
Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale 
Message-ID: 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 

Hi Ryan, 

That's a very impressive list of projects, and a good-looking boat. As a data 
point, when I bought my 1972 30-1 hull #7 in January, I looked at comparables I 
could find online at the time - five of them from 1972 to 1976 - and the 
average price was $13,650 (range $9,500-$17,650). 

I paid nearly twice what you're asking, for a 30-1 with spinnaker and good 38' 
triple-axle trailer, and recent projects done by the PO included: new 
batteries, solar panel, and charge controller; all through-hulls rebedded; new 
bottom paint; all winches rebuilt and backing plates installed; new head and 
holding tank; new head countertop; all cushions recovered; all windows 
re-sealed; and a new traveler. 

This year I installed a spare tire / carrier wheel on the trailer, refinished 
the boot stripe, buffed and waxed the topsides, painted the bottom, added 
curtains and throw rugs inside, replaced some running rigging, replaced the 
headfoil, installed a vang, added a masthead SailTimer wind instrument, and 
re-did the bunks and guides on the trailer. 

But in the future I will be doing a lot of the projects you've already done: 
rebedding the chainplates; rebuilding the mast step support and overhauling the 
bilge pump system; re-doing fuel tank straps and vent and wiring; refinishing 
the topsides; servicing the A4; rewiring; replacing compasses; resealing the 
keel joint; etc. 

For the difference between what I paid for my boat and what you're asking for 
yours, somebody could probably restore the interior of yours to the original 
layout, and they'd have a hell of a nice 30-1 with all the improvements you've 
made, and the instrumentation you've added, etc. I really like the tiller 
steering and boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom (which it looks like you 
have) - my boat is set up the same way, and it makes for a very roomy cockpit. 
It's also nice to have a pushpit gate (I don't), and your dodger and bimini are 
great additions - my boat doesn't have those. 

I hope somebody recognizes what a value your boat is, and I have to agree with 
you the 30-1 is tough as nails and famously sturdy. Mine is easily the fastest 
boat in my club when the wind is blowing 17 knots or more, even with an 
undersized main and a fixed prop. She stays on her feet under full sail when 
other boats have to depower. 

Best Regards, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

- Original Message - 

From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
To: "cnc-list" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: "Ryan Doyle" < ryanpdo...@gmail.com > 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 8:41:25 AM 
Subject: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale 


Hey All, 

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer. Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget. Our max 
budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has good 
bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30. 

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;) 

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here. I have her listed on Craigslist for $8450 
- I know that's cheap. This is why - Her interior was renovated (very nicely) 
by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded and 
re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now.. We l

Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Thanks Randy.  Sounds like you have a really nice old 30.  If you ever have
questions about the bilge pump situation and what I did (especially about
getting a pump in that forward bilge), wiring, keel joint seal, etc. etc.
I'd be more than happy to tell you what I did and how I did it.


Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:47:16 + (UTC)
> From: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Ryan Doyle <ryanpdo...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale
> Message-ID:
> <624205602.17534848.1472748436282.javamail.zim...@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> That's a very impressive list of projects, and a good-looking boat. As a
> data point, when I bought my 1972 30-1 hull #7 in January, I looked at
> comparables I could find online at the time - five of them from 1972 to
> 1976 - and the average price was $13,650 (range $9,500-$17,650).
>
> I paid nearly twice what you're asking, for a 30-1 with spinnaker and good
> 38' triple-axle trailer, and recent projects done by the PO included: new
> batteries, solar panel, and charge controller; all through-hulls rebedded;
> new bottom paint; all winches rebuilt and backing plates installed; new
> head and holding tank; new head countertop; all cushions recovered; all
> windows re-sealed; and a new traveler.
>
> This year I installed a spare tire / carrier wheel on the trailer,
> refinished the boot stripe, buffed and waxed the topsides, painted the
> bottom, added curtains and throw rugs inside, replaced some running
> rigging, replaced the headfoil, installed a vang, added a masthead
> SailTimer wind instrument, and re-did the bunks and guides on the trailer.
>
> But in the future I will be doing a lot of the projects you've already
> done: rebedding the chainplates; rebuilding the mast step support and
> overhauling the bilge pump system; re-doing fuel tank straps and vent and
> wiring; refinishing the topsides; servicing the A4; rewiring; replacing
> compasses; resealing the keel joint; etc.
>
> For the difference between what I paid for my boat and what you're asking
> for yours, somebody could probably restore the interior of yours to the
> original layout, and they'd have a hell of a nice 30-1 with all the
> improvements you've made, and the instrumentation you've added, etc. I
> really like the tiller steering and boom-end sheeting to traveler on
> transom (which it looks like you have) - my boat is set up the same way,
> and it makes for a very roomy cockpit. It's also nice to have a pushpit
> gate (I don't), and your dodger and bimini are great additions - my boat
> doesn't have those.
>
> I hope somebody recognizes what a value your boat is, and I have to agree
> with you the 30-1 is tough as nails and famously sturdy. Mine is easily the
> fastest boat in my club when the wind is blowing 17 knots or more, even
> with an undersized main and a fixed prop. She stays on her feet under full
> sail when other boats have to depower.
>
> Best Regards,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
> - Original Message -----
>
> From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: "Ryan Doyle" <ryanpdo...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 8:41:25 AM
> Subject: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale
>
>
> Hey All,
>
> The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer. Most likely a C
> landfall 38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our
> budget. Our max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that
> needs tlc, but has good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C
> 30.
>
> Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just
> posted yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later
> model, so I don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be
> looking to buy the same boats... ;)
>
> My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades
> - many of which I posted about on here. I have her listed on Craigslist for
> $8450 - I know that's cheap. This is why - Her interior was renovated (very
> nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just
> re-bedded and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a
> totally original looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right
> now.. We love her huge galley. We sail her regularly on weekends. She's a
> great boat - stiff as all heck and she handles the ocean passage from
> Brooklyn to NJ great.
>
> She's at a marina (paid thru Dec)

Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Dan Watts via CnC-List]

FYI, I have my 1976 C 33 Mk1 listed on Craig's list under eastern 
Connecticut. Boat is in great shape with a Westerbeke 30hp diesel, under 500 
hrs. 
Dan Watts


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Frank.  I'm sorry to hear about that Columbia.  If I sold this boat to 
> someone who let her go like that I'd be heartbroken. 
> 
> I had two showings last weekend - one was a couple who knew their way around 
> the boat, the second were two people who I think stumbled down the dock from 
> a bar up the street.  They clearly had no idea what they were looking at!  
> 
> Much to my wife's chagrin I do a lot of research I pretty much read up on 
> sailboats and look at listings during every ounce of my free time.
> 
> And thanks for the warnings about Craigslist.  I get scam calls all the time, 
> but I'm pretty good at figuring out who's legit.  I've also got her on Boat 
> Trader.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Franklin Schenk  wrote:
>> 
>> You should have no problem selling your boat at that price.  I hope you find 
>> a buyer who will appreciate all you have done.  My past experience has shown 
>> that many, if not most, boat buyers are ignorant.  I sold my Columbia 26 
>> MKII for $2700 which was far below the average price of $4000.  It was in 
>> very good condition and had an almost new 9.8 electric start motor.  I felt 
>> I had my monies worth after 38 years.  After 4 years and three other owners 
>> it sold for $2950 and it was a total wreck with no motor.  I would only pay 
>> about $1000 for a boat in that condition.  The buyer had never owned a boat 
>> and obviously never checked the price of a similar boat.  Sorry for the rant 
>> but I hope you guys do your homework before buying or selling a boat.
>> 
>> Frank
>> C 29 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 9:42 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey All,
>> 
>> The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C 
>> landfall 38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our 
>> budget.  Our max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that 
>> needs tlc, but has good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 
>> 30.  
>> 
>> Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
>> yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
>> don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to 
>> buy the same boats... ;)
>> 
>> My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
>> many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
>> $8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
>> nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just 
>> re-bedded and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a 
>> totally original looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right 
>> now..  We love her huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a 
>> great boat - stiff as all heck and she handles the ocean passage from 
>> Brooklyn to NJ great.
>> 
>> She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't 
>> sell by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at 
>> the Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.  
>> 
>> I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
>> like to see her. 
>> 
>> The listing:
>> https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html
>> 
>> Recent upgrades:
>> -Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
>> gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge 
>> duplex)
>> -New bottom paint spring 2016
>> -Hull paint spring 2016
>> -Deck and grip paint summer 2016
>> -Water pump rebuilt spring 2016
>> -Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016
>> -Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 
>> -New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground
>> -New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016
>> -Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016
>> -All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015
>> -New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016
>> -New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter  - April 2016
>> -New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 2016
>> -New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016
>> -New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016
>> -New engine blower fan and hose - March 2016
>> -New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016
>> -New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015
>> -New interior ventilation fans - April 2016
>> -New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016
>> -New forward switched Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - 
>> April 2016
>> -New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 2015

Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Frank

Obviously somebody had no idea what a new 9.8hp electric start motor costs 
(over $2700) and ruined it.  Possibly they did know and sold it separately and 
then figure they can double their money by also selling the boat

Sad to see people destroy a loved one …

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Franklin 
Schenk via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Franklin Schenk; Ryan Doyle
Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

You should have no problem selling your boat at that price.  I hope you find a 
buyer who will appreciate all you have done.  My past experience has shown that 
many, if not most, boat buyers are ignorant.  I sold my Columbia 26 MKII for 
$2700 which was far below the average price of $4000.  It was in very good 
condition and had an almost new 9.8 electric start motor.  I felt I had my 
monies worth after 38 years.  After 4 years and three other owners it sold for 
$2950 and it was a total wreck with no motor.  I would only pay about $1000 for 
a boat in that condition.  The buyer had never owned a boat and obviously never 
checked the price of a similar boat.  Sorry for the rant but I hope you guys do 
your homework before buying or selling a boat.

Frank
C 29

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 9:42 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.

She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell 
by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.

I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
like to see her.

The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades:
-Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge duplex)
-New bottom paint spring 2016
-Hull paint spring 2016
-Deck and grip paint summer 2016
-Water pump rebuilt spring 2016
-Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016
-Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016
-New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground
-New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016
-Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016
-All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015
-New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016
-New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter  - April 2016
-New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 2016
-New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016
-New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016
-New engine blower fan and hose - March 2016
-New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016
-New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015
-New interior ventilation fans - April 2016
-New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016
-New forward switched Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - April 
2016
-New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 2015
-New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016

Ryan
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Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Hi Ryan, 

That's a very impressive list of projects, and a good-looking boat. As a data 
point, when I bought my 1972 30-1 hull #7 in January, I looked at comparables I 
could find online at the time - five of them from 1972 to 1976 - and the 
average price was $13,650 (range $9,500-$17,650). 

I paid nearly twice what you're asking, for a 30-1 with spinnaker and good 38' 
triple-axle trailer, and recent projects done by the PO included: new 
batteries, solar panel, and charge controller; all through-hulls rebedded; new 
bottom paint; all winches rebuilt and backing plates installed; new head and 
holding tank; new head countertop; all cushions recovered; all windows 
re-sealed; and a new traveler. 

This year I installed a spare tire / carrier wheel on the trailer, refinished 
the boot stripe, buffed and waxed the topsides, painted the bottom, added 
curtains and throw rugs inside, replaced some running rigging, replaced the 
headfoil, installed a vang, added a masthead SailTimer wind instrument, and 
re-did the bunks and guides on the trailer. 

But in the future I will be doing a lot of the projects you've already done: 
rebedding the chainplates; rebuilding the mast step support and overhauling the 
bilge pump system; re-doing fuel tank straps and vent and wiring; refinishing 
the topsides; servicing the A4; rewiring; replacing compasses; resealing the 
keel joint; etc. 

For the difference between what I paid for my boat and what you're asking for 
yours, somebody could probably restore the interior of yours to the original 
layout, and they'd have a hell of a nice 30-1 with all the improvements you've 
made, and the instrumentation you've added, etc. I really like the tiller 
steering and boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom (which it looks like you 
have) - my boat is set up the same way, and it makes for a very roomy cockpit. 
It's also nice to have a pushpit gate (I don't), and your dodger and bimini are 
great additions - my boat doesn't have those. 

I hope somebody recognizes what a value your boat is, and I have to agree with 
you the 30-1 is tough as nails and famously sturdy. Mine is easily the fastest 
boat in my club when the wind is blowing 17 knots or more, even with an 
undersized main and a fixed prop. She stays on her feet under full sail when 
other boats have to depower. 

Best Regards, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Ryan Doyle" <ryanpdo...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 8:41:25 AM 
Subject: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale 


Hey All, 

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer. Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget. Our max 
budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has good 
bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30. 

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;) 

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here. I have her listed on Craigslist for $8450 
- I know that's cheap. This is why - Her interior was renovated (very nicely) 
by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded and 
re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now.. We love her huge 
galley. We sail her regularly on weekends. She's a great boat - stiff as all 
heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great. 

She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ. If she doesn't sell by 
Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
Sheepshead Bay Yacht club. 

I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
like to see her. 

The listing: 
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html 

Recent upgrades: 
-Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge duplex) 
-New bottom paint spring 2016 
-Hull paint spring 2016 
-Deck and grip paint summer 2016 
-Water pump rebuilt spring 2016 
-Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016 
-Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 
-New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground 
-New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016 
-Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016 
-All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015 
-New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016 
-New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartpl

Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Thanks Frank.  I'm sorry to hear about that Columbia.  If I sold this boat to 
someone who let her go like that I'd be heartbroken. 

I had two showings last weekend - one was a couple who knew their way around 
the boat, the second were two people who I think stumbled down the dock from a 
bar up the street.  They clearly had no idea what they were looking at!  

Much to my wife's chagrin I do a lot of research I pretty much read up on 
sailboats and look at listings during every ounce of my free time.

And thanks for the warnings about Craigslist.  I get scam calls all the time, 
but I'm pretty good at figuring out who's legit.  I've also got her on Boat 
Trader.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Franklin Schenk  wrote:
> 
> You should have no problem selling your boat at that price.  I hope you find 
> a buyer who will appreciate all you have done.  My past experience has shown 
> that many, if not most, boat buyers are ignorant.  I sold my Columbia 26 MKII 
> for $2700 which was far below the average price of $4000.  It was in very 
> good condition and had an almost new 9.8 electric start motor.  I felt I had 
> my monies worth after 38 years.  After 4 years and three other owners it sold 
> for $2950 and it was a total wreck with no motor.  I would only pay about 
> $1000 for a boat in that condition.  The buyer had never owned a boat and 
> obviously never checked the price of a similar boat.  Sorry for the rant but 
> I hope you guys do your homework before buying or selling a boat.
> 
> Frank
> C 29 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 9:42 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C 
> landfall 38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our 
> budget.  Our max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs 
> tlc, but has good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.  
> 
> Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
> yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
> don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to 
> buy the same boats... ;)
> 
> My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
> many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
> $8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
> nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just 
> re-bedded and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally 
> original looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We 
> love her huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat 
> - stiff as all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ 
> great.
> 
> She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell 
> by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
> Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.  
> 
> I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
> like to see her. 
> 
> The listing:
> https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html
> 
> Recent upgrades:
> -Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
> gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge duplex)
> -New bottom paint spring 2016
> -Hull paint spring 2016
> -Deck and grip paint summer 2016
> -Water pump rebuilt spring 2016
> -Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016
> -Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 
> -New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground
> -New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016
> -Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016
> -All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015
> -New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016
> -New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter  - April 2016
> -New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 2016
> -New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016
> -New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016
> -New engine blower fan and hose - March 2016
> -New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016
> -New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015
> -New interior ventilation fans - April 2016
> -New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016
> -New forward switched Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - 
> April 2016
> -New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 2015
> -New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016
> 
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[henry evans via CnC-List]

Ryan,
Be careful of Craig's list leads.  
I recently sold a car that I listed on Craig's list.  It generated 10 inquiries 
and 7 of them were outright scams. Every scam artist in the world is looking 
for targets on Craig's list.
Hank Evans 

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 9:59 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 

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[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle
Subject: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale    Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.  

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.    She's 
at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell by Sept 
24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the Sheepshead 
Bay Yacht club.      I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for 
Hermine if anyone would like to see her.  
The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades: -Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, 
insulated 14 gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 
gauge duplex) -New bottom paint spring 2016 -Hull paint spring 2016 -Deck and 
grip paint summer 2016 -Water pump rebuilt spring 2016 -Ignition switch fuel 
solenoid valve installed spring 2016 -Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy 
spring 2016  -New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground -New Blue Sea 
systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016 -Chainplates re-bedded 
and re-sealed April 2016 -All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015 -New 
Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016 -New 
Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter  - April 2016 -New low-draw LED navigation 
lighting - April 2016 -New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - 
April 2016 -New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016 -New engine 
blower fan and hose - March 2016 -New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 
2016 -New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015 -New interior ventilation fans - April 
2016 -New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016 -New forward switched 
Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - April 2016 -New 7w Ganz 
solar panel - October 2015 -New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016 
Ryan Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Franklin Schenk via CnC-List]

You should have no problem selling your boat at that price.  I hope you find a 
buyer who will appreciate all you have done.  My past experience has shown that 
many, if not most, boat buyers are ignorant.  I sold my Columbia 26 MKII for 
$2700 which was far below the average price of $4000.  It was in very good 
condition and had an almost new 9.8 electric start motor.  I felt I had my 
monies worth after 38 years.  After 4 years and three other owners it sold for 
$2950 and it was a total wreck with no motor.  I would only pay about $1000 for 
a boat in that condition.  The buyer had never owned a boat and obviously never 
checked the price of a similar boat.  Sorry for the rant but I hope you guys do 
your homework before buying or selling a boat.
FrankC 29  

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 9:42 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.  

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.
She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell 
by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.  
I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
like to see her. 
The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades:
-Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge 
duplex)-New bottom paint spring 2016-Hull paint spring 2016-Deck and grip paint 
summer 2016-Water pump rebuilt spring 2016-Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve 
installed spring 2016-Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 -New fuel 
tank straps, ground, and fill ground-New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main 
breaker panel - winter 2015-2016-Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 
2016-All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015-New Raymarine i40 depth 
finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016-New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS 
chartplotter  - April 2016-New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 
2016-New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016-New 
low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016-New engine blower fan and 
hose - March 2016-New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016-New fuel tank 
vent hose - Nov 2015-New interior ventilation fans - April 2016-New main bilge 
pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016-New forward switched Rule 500gph electric 
bilge pump for forward bilge - April 2016-New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 
2015-New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016
Ryan

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Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Thanks Joe.  She is nice.  I showed her to some folks last weekend who have
a C 26 or 28 and they definitely commented on the un-orthodox galley
arrangement and lack of a table, so I think some people see it as an
upgrade, and others don't.  The port lights are an upgrade because it
allows for a ton of light in the cabin, on the down side they are
deadlights actually, so they don't open for ventilation.  We keep the front
hatch and companionway open and run the fans and she stays pretty cool.
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Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Our boats are not antique cars, I doubt improvements reduce their value. Boat 
looks nice ☺
Joe
Coquina

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Subject: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.

She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell 
by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.

I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
like to see her.

The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades:
-Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge duplex)
-New bottom paint spring 2016
-Hull paint spring 2016
-Deck and grip paint summer 2016
-Water pump rebuilt spring 2016
-Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016
-Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016
-New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground
-New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016
-Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016
-All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015
-New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016
-New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter  - April 2016
-New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 2016
-New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016
-New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016
-New engine blower fan and hose - March 2016
-New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016
-New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015
-New interior ventilation fans - April 2016
-New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016
-New forward switched Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - April 
2016
-New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 2015
-New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016

Ryan
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Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C 30mki for sale

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Hey All,

The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer.  Most likely a C landfall 
38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget.  Our 
max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has 
good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C 30.  

Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted 
yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I 
don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy 
the same boats... ;)

My 1976 C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - 
many of which I posted about on here.  I have her listed on Craigslist for 
$8450 - I know that's cheap.  This is why - Her interior was renovated (very 
nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded 
and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original 
looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now..  We love her 
huge galley.  We sail her regularly on weekends.  She's a great boat - stiff as 
all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great.

She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ.  If she doesn't sell 
by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the 
Sheepshead Bay Yacht club.  

I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would 
like to see her. 

The listing:
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html

Recent upgrades:
-Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 
gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge duplex)
-New bottom paint spring 2016
-Hull paint spring 2016
-Deck and grip paint summer 2016
-Water pump rebuilt spring 2016
-Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016
-Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 
-New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground
-New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016
-Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016
-All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015
-New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016
-New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter  - April 2016
-New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 2016
-New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016
-New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016
-New engine blower fan and hose - March 2016
-New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016
-New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015
-New interior ventilation fans - April 2016
-New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016
-New forward switched Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - April 
2016
-New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 2015
-New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016

Ryan

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