Stus-List List Unsubscribe

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

Please remove me from your mailing list.
Thanks,
  Jeremy
Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Thanks for your help.
Stu

Stus-List List appreciation

[Stu via CnC-List]

Here it is that time of year again – bills are starting to come and 
hopefully some help to pay them.


Tradionally, November has been the month for you, the list subscribers, 
to show your support and gratitude for this list and send a little help.


Contributions can be made either by check or PayPal.

Check – payable and send to:
Stu Murray
33 Langton Rd
London, Ontario, Canada
N5V 2L9

PayPal
use this link -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

All contributions are greatly appreciated and will ensure that this 
list, and the Photo Album site will continue.


Stay safe ‘n’ healthy
Thank you in advance
Stu

Stus-List list removal?

[Richard Walter via CnC-List]

Greetings,
Can I please have my email address removed from the CnC-list? 
Thank you, Richard J. Walter 

Stus-List list problems

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Agree, the list email problem seems to be resolved.  Amazing.

Chuck
Custom laser engraved cutting boards are available at the C Photo Album site.

Stus-List List problems

[Stu via CnC-List]

I guess I was wrong.  The problems started when I put the cutting board
footer in the emails.

Now we have identified the problem -- it is not with the list but
specifically with how some email programs and providers handle the
emails.  What is disturbing is that one company decides what is best for
you and all the other companies do not see a problem.

Now as an experiment, I am adding a link to the body of this message. 
Let's see how it goes through --

http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stu
There are no links in this footer.

Stus-List list problems

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Don't know why it's happening, or how to fix it, but it's happening to a whole 
lotta members, it started after Stu's cutting board offer went out and I don't 
have this problem with any other emails, just those from the CNC list and not 
all of those.

I'm using Comcast.net email on a HP laptop, running Firefox.

Chuck S


There are no links in this footer.

Stus-List List problems

[Stu via CnC-List]

I have removed the footer with an external link.  There is still a
footer - just no link.

Instead of trying to identify the email servers, let's identify the mail
programs being used - both sending and receiving.

Stu

using Thunderbird mail.
There are no links in this footer.

Stus-List List The attachments are driving me nuts

[Stu via CnC-List]

Folks I have tried and tried to find the problem.  The IT group that
maintains our list program assure me it is not the problems. The program
only relays what is sent to it and makes no changes.

I tried contacting several email servers whose customers were
experiencing problems, and I might as well talk to the wind.

The problems are very sporadic and are not consistent by any means. I
have several email accounts all with different providers and do not any
problems.  So I cannot relate to the problems.

I am still using Windows Live Mail from Windows Essentials (no longer
available) and Thunderbird Mail.  Both programs access all of my email
accounts and neither has shown any problems.

I don't know what to suggest at this time except for you to experiment
and try a different email app on your smartphone, laptop or desktop
computers.

I keep trying to find the problem and the solution but right now things
do not look good.

Stu

Customized C Cutting Boards available at:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stus-List List has been quiet

[Stu via CnC-List]

C custom logoed kitchen/galley cutting boards are now available at:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Just making sure that the list is working but little activity.

Stuhttps://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu -->

Stus-List List Burnished bottom paint

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

Here's an interesting article explaining the benefits of a smooth bottom, keel 
and rudder. There is actually some testing that went into the results. Worth a 
read. https://www.gp14.org/a-smooth-bottom-is-a-fast-bottom/
Ted DrossosC 110S/V Lady in RedBay Shore, NYThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List List from Richard, Now 37+ holding tank

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Richard, I will send you pictures and a description of what you are facing to your email. It’s a big job but very possible. I haven’t heard of anyone else having to do this job and I believe most 37/40s have a poly tank rather than aluminum. I took it one step farther and converted the port side water tank to a holding tank for storage in the Great Lakes. Len MitchellS/V Crazy Legs1989 C 37+Midland On. Sent from my iPadThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List List

[onno boswinkel via CnC-List]

Stu,I've been away from the list for many months but noticed that I've not 
received any e-mails since September.How can i get back on the active 
list?Thanks,OnnoThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List List emails

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Unfortunately, I seem to be getting these darn emails with no issues at
all.  :)

Enjoyed a short but nice sail today.  Wanted to take a long deliberate look
at my new Sri Lankan genoa.  Seems to be of good quality.

Happy Holidays and stay safe.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List List Viewing Archives

[Stu]

The site called https://cnc-list.com/empathy/list/cnc-list.cnc-list.com came 
with the list upgrade.  

It is still in developmental stages and that is the reason I did not release it 
to our subscribers.  Now that everyone knows, I suggest you use it.  But be 
forewarned – it still has bugs.

As a small note – Empathy is an archiving/forum tool associated with the list 
but the list does not need Empathy to run.

I am in touch with the developers on a daily basis and am working to get rid of 
all the bugs.

Stay safe
StuOctober is the time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to this 
list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List List is NOT down

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Winter - what's that?
:)

Joe
Coquina


From: Stu 
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 11:18 AM
To: C Email List 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List List is NOT down

>From the information I have at hand, the list is working and is NOT busted.

I guess most people are getting ready to lift-out for the winter and are too 
busy to play on their email programs.

Stay safe
Stu
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Stus-List List is NOT down

[Stu]

>From the information I have at hand, the list is working and is NOT busted.

I guess most people are getting ready to lift-out for the winter and are too 
busy to play on their email programs.

Stay safe 
StuOctober is the time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to this 
list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List LIST BUSTED?

[Tom Buscaglia]

No emails today...is the list busted?

.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Stus-List List Updates

[Stu]

Good morning everyone

It looks like we are slowly getting rid of the problems associated with the new 
email programs.  But there are still glitches that are being worked on. 

Most of the problems encountered now appear to be individual and associated 
with the mail program people are using.  Each mail program is different, they 
all use different spam filters and and spam databases and have different 
methods for filtering emails into separate folders.

Myself, I have experimented with a bunch including those provided by Microsoft, 
my hosting companies and freebies like gMail and Mail.com.  Right now, all seem 
to be working okay but that could change anytime.

My suggestion to everyone experiencing troubles is to sign up for a free 
account like gMail and use it only for this list.  It might sound like a pain 
in the butt, but it should clear up some of your problems.

If you are still having problems or concerns about the list, please send me a 
personal email (s...@cncphotoalbum.com) and I will address each of them.

Happy Halloween – Stay safe
StuOctober is the time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to this 
list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List List problems

[Stu]

Please be sure to trim your messages when replying to an email.We have encountered some new problems with the list and are working on it.  
Hopefully it won’t take long.

Stay safe – StuOctober is time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to this 
list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List List upgrade

[Stus-List]

I'm also getting a lot of code with the message mixed in.  In addition, the 
topics numbers are not carried into the body.  Between the extensive code and 
no topic numbers, I have no clue where the topic actually is without extensive 
time consuming searches and even then I'm not sure if it was a previous thread 
topic or new.  I've been more inclined to delete as of late without spending 
the time to search.   Thanks for your effort to improve this site Stu, much 
appreciated.  I'll be patient.

Thanks,
Paul Hood


Today's Topics:

   1. List upgrade (Stus-List)
   2. Re: Looking for used spinnaker (Stus-List)
   3. electric fuel pump next question (Stus-List)
   4. electric fuel pump next question (Stus-List)


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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:22:04 -0700
From: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List List upgrade
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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Content-Type: text/plain;
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Stu

FYI, I=E2=80=99m getting a bunch of what looks like CSS code in some message= 
s.  See below.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera=20
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 15, 2020, at 12:35 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> Sent: 14 September, 2020 08:47
> To: Stus-List 
> Subject: Stus-List List upgrade
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Stus-List List upgrade

[Stus-List]

Stu

FYI, I’m getting a bunch of what looks like CSS code in some messages.  See 
below.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 15, 2020, at 12:35 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Stu
> Sent: 14 September, 2020 08:47
> To: Stus-List 
> Subject: Stus-List List upgrade
> 
> Hang on a bit.  We know there could be glitches in the new software.  I hav=
> e been in touch with our ISP and they are looking into the "FROM" concerns.
> 
> If you have other problems, please let me know so they can be addressed.
> 
> Stay safe - Stu
> 
> --_000_DM6PR02MB6541117F91152E3535E0ECD6CE230DM6PR02MB6541namp_
> Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> Stu
> 
> Sent: 14 September, 2020 08:47
> To: Stus-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List List upgrade
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --_000_DM6PR02MB6541117F91152E3535E0ECD6CE230DM6PR02MB6541namp
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Stus-List List upgrades

[Stus-List]

Sorry folks – the upgrade has not been easy – too many changes to configure.

The search links are working.  
1.  Search the Photo Album – This link uses Google and searches the content of 
the Photo Album.
2.  Search the Email Discussion List – This uses a new search engine designed 
for our list called Empathy.  You can see the most current threads plus do a 
search of all archived messages.  
3.  You can still use Google to search the email list --  
https://www.google.com/search?q==cnc-list.com  Replace    
with your search word.

I think the “From” on each email has been changed back to original settings.

Still more to go

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Stus-List list upgrade question

[SEAN CONNER]

For many years I have been using the email archive site at 
https://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/ to review the discussions 
on this list.  Since the upgrade, this site does not seem to exist, so was just 
wondering if this feature will still be available somewhere.  

It really was a great way to access the content by data, author, thread, etc.
Many thanks--dutifully subscribed since 1997...
Sean Conner___

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Stus-List List upgrade

[Stu]

Hang on a bit.  We know there could be glitches in the new software.  I have 
been in touch with our ISP and they are looking into the “FROM” concerns.  

If you have other problems, please let me know so they can be addressed.

Stay safe – Stu___

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Stus-List List Digest

[Stu via CnC-List]

Stus-List CnC-List Digest - C 121  IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SUBJECT!  And the 
same goes when you don’t trim the message.

Trim it or get trimmed!

Stu___

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Re: Stus-List List Now Fuel Spill

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I overfilled my boat's tank once when we ran it for the first time and the fuel 
gage was broken.  It wasn't much but the rainbow was on the water before I 
could stop it.  I since replaced the gage.

I never fill my boat's fuel tank unless I am taking a long trip.  Don't want 
all that weight onboard or the fuel going stale.   I've heard stories of racers 
calculating the commute to a race and measuring the fuel for a regatta. 

I bought my boat with an unknown amount of fuel and calculated the fuel to be 
over five years old.  I ran the level down that season and then pumped the last 
10 gallons into jerry cans I gave to a friend for his home furnace.   I since 
buy diesel at a busy truckstop (fresh) and fill one or two jerry cans when I 
want to add fuel.  I know this may incite the anger of condensation gurus but I 
check my water separator and do not find any issues with water.  It seems more 
likely that water and sediment can be in fuel that comes from marina fuel tanks 
sitting for long periods of time and are located below the water table.   

BTW, my aluminum tank started leaking last year and I am replacing with a 
larger, plastic tank.  I will probably need to keep more fuel in that, to keep 
the level up, but I don't intend to fill it unless we plan a long trip.  After 
hearing that others can see the level in a plastic tank, I am encouraged to 
visually check the level when filling and never overfill.  Thanks.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md

> On March 25, 2020 at 12:03 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I stopped in a marine store On a cruise when we first got Alera and there 
> was one suctioned to the front window.  I went in and asked if they had any 
> available and was told they were no longer available.  The owner was nice 
> enough to sell me the one in the window.  Lucky me!
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> 
> 
> 
> > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:30 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:52:15 +
> > From: Allen White 
> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC-List Now Fuel Spill
> > Message-ID:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Good News:  It is called Davis No Spill
> > Bad News: Web search shows it as discontinued on Amazon & Fisheries 
> > Supply
> > If anyone finds it a link would probably be appreciated.
> > 
> > Allen
> > 
> > 
> > > ___
> 
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> 
> 


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Stus-List List Now Fuel Spill

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I stopped in a marine store On a cruise when we first got Alera and there was 
one suctioned to the front window.  I went in and asked if they had any 
available and was told they were no longer available.  The owner was nice 
enough to sell me the one in the window.  Lucky me!

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:30 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:52:15 +
> From: Allen White 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC-List Now Fuel Spill
> Message-ID:
>
> 
>
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> Good News:  It is called Davis No Spill
> Bad News: Web search shows it as discontinued on Amazon & Fisheries Supply
> If anyone finds it a link would probably be appreciated.
> 
> Allen
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Re: Stus-List List 33 mkii Flare stowage box and bracket project.

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Potato Cannon  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:06 PM, Len Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Bill, they only outlaw the semi automatic plastic flare guns here. Should be 
> ok for jet skis no? Two days ago I had a jet ski circle the anchorage towing 
> a guy in a Borat mankini bathing suit on a knee board. The Borat limit here 
> is two but I would like to lobby the government to increase the cull limit to 
> three. 
> Len
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Stus-List List 33 mkii Flare stowage box and bracket project.

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Bill, they only outlaw the semi automatic plastic flare guns here. Should be ok 
for jet skis no? Two days ago I had a jet ski circle the anchorage towing a guy 
in a Borat mankini bathing suit on a knee board. The Borat limit here is two 
but I would like to lobby the government to increase the cull limit to three. 
Len

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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Dennis Peters via CnC-List]

Hi,

I didn’t see the original post, so I’m not sure what the question is, but I 
have SeaPlusPlus 1980 30-1 #609. 

If you’re just looking for a list of boats, the database is great: 
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/new_owners/index2.php 
<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/new_owners/index2.php>

Cheers,
Dennis

Dennis Peters
dennis.k.pet...@gmail.com



> On Nov 15, 2018, at 11:08, Gary Nylander via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Penniless is 1980 and hull #593
> Gary
>  
> From: CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:25 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Ronald B. Frerker mailto:rbfrer...@yahoo.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s
>  
> Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.
> Ron
> STL
>  
>  
> 
> From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
> Cc: Nate Flesness mailto:nateflesn...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s
>  
> Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.
>  
> Nate
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Penniless is 1980 and hull #593

Gary

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

 

Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.

Ron

STL

 

 

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To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> " 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Cc: Nate Flesness mailto:nateflesn...@gmail.com> >
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Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

 

Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.

 

Nate

 

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Stus-List List - Emails

[robert via CnC-List]

Rod:

Your ISP is 'eastlink.ca'.so is minethey should provide multiple 
e-mail addresses with your account I have one dedicated only for the 
C list goes to that folder only to my home computer.separate 
folder from my regular e-mail.does not go to my IPhone or 
elsewhere.check it out.


And can't say it any better than Josh did!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-04-05 4:28 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote:


Do we always need to copy everyone on the list about everything.  Gets 
pretty ridiculous with the number of emails.  No wonder people unsubscribe


Rod




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Stus-List List Refrigerator Manual -- C 37+

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Edd

I replaced the controller on my Novacool due to it getting very inconsistent 
lately.  Not quite a drop in, mostly due to differences in wire gauges.  But it 
solved all of my problems.

The original controller is no longer available.  But I fond an aftermarket 
replacement in Australia.  Let me know if you want me to dig up the info.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:43 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:32:50 -0400
> From: Edd Schillay 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refrigerator Manual -- C 37+
> Message-ID: <1864eb04-d4d2-46c9-9276-d97c666bd...@schillay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Ken,
> 
> The system (or at least most of it) appears to be Nova Kool, though I don't 
> know the model. 
> 
> I've reached out to their support email address and I'll hopefully get some 
> answers soon. 
> 
> I'm cautiously optimistic that the lights and the 5-degree drop is indication 
> that the system is working now. 
> 
> I'll also look for a refrigeration guy at the Norwalk Boat Show next weekend 
> and try to pick his brain. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
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> C 37+ 
> Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, New York
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Re: Stus-List List Refrigerator Manual -- C 37+

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Please!! 

On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:

Edd

I replaced the controller on my Novacool due to it getting very inconsistent 
lately.  Not quite a drop in, mostly due to differences in wire gauges.  But it 
solved all of my problems.

The original controller is no longer available.  But I fond an aftermarket 
replacement in Australia.  Let me know if you want me to dig up the info.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:43 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

this is a great Idea!


On 5/9/2017 11:38 AM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List wrote:
Also...I am replacing several of the hood screws with snap studs to 
work with the bug screens and fabric hatch cover I'm currently 
making.  Won't need to drill around the hatch.


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Re: Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

Chuck, your last point caught my attention, "I had a bunch of gray gunk damming 
the flow of water from the hatch. "; that grey gunk was very likely old butyl 
tape which had seeped from the hatch and also which caused the leaks you were 
experiencing...

 

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, MIle 596;


Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Saur via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Chuck Saur <cssau...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, May 9, 2017 8:24 am
Subject: Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?



I removed the companionway hood on Morning Sky (35-3) and resealed with 
LifeSeal but wish I had used butyl.  The screws seemed adequate, as there 
appears no big structural issues...but there is a shallow 'crease' around the 
perimeter of the hood (not the drain gutters to port and starboard) that I have 
covered with rigging tape each year, and am going to caulk this year.  It just 
collects slime and water and sits.


Also, while I had the hood off, I noted the plexiglass slid directly on the 
teak of the companionway, and there was some allowance for the installation of 
a nylon plastic "cap" and still accept the thickness of the hatch plexiglass, 
enabling it to glide really nice! Make sure the screws are recessed into the 
nylon adequately.  Looks finished as well.


Also...I am replacing several of the hood screws with snap studs to work with 
the bug screens and fabric hatch cover I'm currently making.  Won't need to 
drill around the hatch.


Last...make sure you have clear unobstructed water drainage to the port and 
starboard lateral gutters.  I had a bunch of gray gunk damming the flow of 
water from the hatch.  Hope this experience helps...






Chuck Saur
​Morning Sky
St Ignace, MI​









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Re: Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?

[Jim via CnC-List]

I use Bed-It-Butyl tape which has been noted by others on this post.  
James Neirinck 
C 35 MK1 
Flamingo IV 
Lake of the Woods, Ontario 

- Original Message -

From: "Chuck Saur via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Chuck Saur" <cssau...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 7:23:34 AM 
Subject: Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better? 

I removed the companionway hood on Morning Sky (35-3) and resealed with 
LifeSeal but wish I had used butyl.  The screws seemed adequate, as there 
appears no big structural issues...but there is a shallow 'crease' around the 
perimeter of the hood (not the drain gutters to port and starboard) that I have 
covered with rigging tape each year, and am going to caulk this year.  It just 
collects slime and water and sits. 

Also, while I had the hood off, I noted the plexiglass slid directly on the 
teak of the companionway, and there was some allowance for the installation of 
a nylon plastic "cap" and still accept the thickness of the hatch plexiglass, 
enabling it to glide really nice! Make sure the screws are recessed into the 
nylon adequately.  Looks finished as well. 

Also...I am replacing several of the hood screws with snap studs to work with 
the bug screens and fabric hatch cover I'm currently making.  Won't need to 
drill around the hatch. 

Last...make sure you have clear unobstructed water drainage to the port and 
starboard lateral gutters.  I had a bunch of gray gunk damming the flow of 
water from the hatch.  Hope this experience helps... 


Chuck Saur 
​Morning Sky 
St Ignace, MI​ 



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Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I removed the companionway hood on Morning Sky (35-3) and resealed with
LifeSeal but wish I had used butyl.  The screws seemed adequate, as there
appears no big structural issues...but there is a shallow 'crease' around
the perimeter of the hood (not the drain gutters to port and starboard)
that I have covered with rigging tape each year, and am going to caulk this
year.  It just collects slime and water and sits.

Also, while I had the hood off, I noted the plexiglass slid directly on the
teak of the companionway, and there was some allowance for the installation
of a nylon plastic "cap" and still accept the thickness of the hatch
plexiglass, enabling it to glide really nice! Make sure the screws are
recessed into the nylon adequately.  Looks finished as well.

Also...I am replacing several of the hood screws with snap studs to work
with the bug screens and fabric hatch cover I'm currently making.  Won't
need to drill around the hatch.

Last...make sure you have clear unobstructed water drainage to the port and
starboard lateral gutters.  I had a bunch of gray gunk damming the flow of
water from the hatch.  Hope this experience helps...


*Chuck Saur*
*​Morning Sky*

*St Ignace, MI​*
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Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Sounds good to me, but sorry to say... not this year.

http://www.greaterfool.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/WORRIES.png?x64811

Cheers, Russ
Sweet   35 mk-1


At 08:53 AM 26/11/2016, you wrote:
Yup – I am Canadian based except Dec to April 
when I will be eenjoying the Florida 
sunshine.  The web hosting company is in the USA.


If anyone gets or is near to Umatilla, FL, drop 
me a note and we’ll try to get together for a rum & coke.


Stu
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Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Umatilla looks landlocked Stu - what gives?

Cheers,
Randy

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> On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Stu via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Yup – I am Canadian based except Dec to April when I will be enjoying the 
> Florida sunshine.  The web hosting company is in the USA.
>  
> If anyone gets or is near to Umatilla, FL, drop me a note and we’ll try to 
> get together for a rum & coke.
>  
> Stu
>  
>  
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:31 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List List discussions on list
>  
> Jerry,
>  
> I think Stu is based in Canada, so Canadian laws would apply (unless the web 
> server is in the US) 
> 
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
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Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

[Stu via CnC-List]

Yup – I am Canadian based except Dec to April when I will be enjoying the 
Florida sunshine.  The web hosting company is in the USA.

If anyone gets or is near to Umatilla, FL, drop me a note and we’ll try to get 
together for a rum & coke.

Stu


From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:31 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

Jerry,

I think Stu is based in Canada, so Canadian laws would apply (unless the web 
server is in the US) 



All the best,

Edd
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Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Jerry,

I think Stu is based in Canada, so Canadian laws would apply (unless the web 
server is in the US) 


All the best,

Edd

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Starship Enterprise
NCC-1701-B
C 37+ | City Island, NY
www.StarshipSailing.com
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On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
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EditWatch this page
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 (a common name for Title 
V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996) is a landmark piece of Internet 
legislation in the United States, codified at 47 U.S.C. § 230. Section 
230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an 
"interactive computer service" who publish information provided by others:

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the 
publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content 
provider.

In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by this provision, courts 
generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three 
prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:

The defendant must be a "provider or user" of an "interactive computer service."
The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must treat the defendant as the 
"publisher or speaker" of the harmful information at issue.
The information must be "provided by another information content provider," 
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Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

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EditWatch this page
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 (a common name for Title 
V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996) is a landmark piece of Internet 
legislation in the United States, codified at 47 U.S.C. § 230. Section 
230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an 
"interactive computer service" who publish information provided by others:

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the 
publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content 
provider.

In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by this provision, courts 
generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three 
prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:

The defendant must be a "provider or user" of an "interactive computer service."
The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must treat the defendant as the 
"publisher or speaker" of the harmful information at issue.
The information must be "provided by another information content provider," 
i.e., the defendant must not be the "information content provider" of the 
harmful information at issue.


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Re: Stus-List List discussions on list

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Certain firms have done vastly more damage to their reputation by trying to
shut down discussion than they ever can recover by trying to stifle the
discussion IMHO.

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com


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Stus-List List discussions on list

[Stu via CnC-List]

By now, a lot of people have gone back to the archives and read the posts by 
Mr. Drew.  It is his side of the story as he believes it happened.


The Brokerage is not a member of the list but have been made aware of the 
posts (not by me).  They have taken their own actions against Mr. Drew and 
are probably not at liberty to discuss the matter on this list or any social 
networking site.


Some of our members have offered suggestions on purchasing a boat and many 
of them are good.  But to suggest how to resolve the problems in litigation 
is not our place.  That's what lawyers are for.


Knocking or slamming a particular firm is fine until there is court actions 
involved.  Then it should not be posted here unless you are willing to post 
both sides of the story.  I doubt that will happen.


At the same time, promoting a company because of the service they provided 
is 100% acceptable.  It would be nice if you sent them a note too.


So, at this time the judge (me) has ordered a 'publication ban' on this 
matter.


We will just have to sit back and see what happens.

Stu



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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

At one time, it was owned by a retired USMC Harrior pilot who I knew as Fitz, I 
think after his last name Fitzgerald? He kept it at Hancock Creek YC on Cherry 
Point MCAS.

FWIW,

Charlie Nelson

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 21, 2016, at 10:09 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sayuri used to be in a lot of the “fun” races, like the Oriental Cup and 
> Dragon’s Breath, in the Oriental area. I think it belonged to a couple named 
> Tom and Stacy, seem to recall they kept the boat in Minesott Beach, and that 
> they were in NYRA. Maybe Charlie Nelson knows who owns the boat.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jtsails 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:46 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: jtsails <jtsai...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s
>  
> I looked around my marina and we have a 30-1 named “Sayuri”, 1973 number 135. 
> I don’t know who owns it, never seen anyone on it, but it’s at the opposite 
> end of the marina from me.
> James
> Delaney
> C 38 mk 2
> Oriental, NC
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Wally Kowal via CnC-List]

Whistler II built 6/73 hull #190 (it's "Whistler II" because Stu already had 
"Whistler")
On the hard in Penetanguishene, ON
We're probably going to sell her next year.  Structurally and mechanically 
sound but looking a bit worse for wear.  My son is re-building the Atomic IV 
this fall for his advanced automotive shop class term project.
Wally Kowal


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 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.RonSTL


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Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.
Nate
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Sayuri used to be in a lot of the “fun” races, like the Oriental Cup and 
Dragon’s Breath, in the Oriental area. I think it belonged to a couple named 
Tom and Stacy, seem to recall they kept the boat in Minesott Beach, and that 
they were in NYRA. Maybe Charlie Nelson knows who owns the boat.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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I looked around my marina and we have a 30-1 named “Sayuri”, 1973 number 135. I 
don’t know who owns it, never seen anyone on it, but it’s at the opposite end 
of the marina from me.

James

Delaney

C 38 mk 2

Oriental, NC

 

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I looked around my marina and we have a 30-1 named “Sayuri”, 1973 number 135. I 
don’t know who owns it, never seen anyone on it, but it’s at the opposite end 
of the marina from me.
James
Delaney
C 38 mk 2
Oriental, NC

From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
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Randy,
You missed this reply.  My number is 166 and I have a Universal diesel, MXP 25 
I think.
Ron







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Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.
Ron
STL







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Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602. 

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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Ron, I updated that spreadsheet with that info. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Randy, 
You missed this reply. My number is 166 and I have a Universal diesel, MXP 25 I 
think. 
Ron 




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Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166. 
Ron 
STL 




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Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602. 

Nate 


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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

Randy,You missed this reply.  My number is 166 and I have a Universal diesel, 
MXP 25 I think.Ron


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Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.RonSTL


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Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.RonSTL


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Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Jeff, what year is she? And what kind of engine and steering does she 
have? Rigged for spinnaker? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

Muir Caileag is hull 549 




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Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> 
Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

This is great information. Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well. Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist? I only know of a few from 
this list: 

Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD 
Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft) 
Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York 
Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ? 
Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD 
Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD 
Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO 
Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, WI 
Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ? 
Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax 
Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc. 

John — here’s some info for you: 

Frank Noragon 
S/V Cool Change 
C Landfall 38, #001 
Rose City Yacht Club 
Portland, Oregon 

(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe) 


Jeff Cole 
1979 C Landfall 38 
“Masala" 

(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think) 

— Fred 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 




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> wrote: 

Im just starting one judging by the feedback ! 
I got 7 replies already 
Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are 
Hull 

Year 

Owner 

Boat Name 

Built at 

Present Location 






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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Nate Flesness via CnC-List]

Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.

Nate
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Wow Stu, this database is gold. I've been saving the pages off the Wayback 
Machine. Looks like your owners list went offline (December 2015?) just before 
I bought my boat and joined this mail list (~February 2016). It would be nice 
if the database included the HINs of the boats, or at least the hull numbers. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:16:04 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

Thanks Stu. I found it on the Wayback Machine: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/owners/* (then 
filter results by .htm). 

I could ship you some good rum if that would help :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Stu" <s...@cncphotoalbum.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:55:11 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time. It crashed 
a few years back and I never took the time to restore it. 
I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again. 
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back. We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
rum & coke is left. 
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 Great idea RandyI'll send some Kentucky Bourbon tooStu, where do you 
want shipped?

 


Richard
1985 C 37 CB, Ohio River, Mle 584.4

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Thanks Stu.  I found it on the Wayback Machine: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/owners/* (then 
filter results by .htm).


I could ship you some good rum if that would help :)


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Re: Stus-List List of all boats...

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 This is a fascinating topic...sooo, how about the other boatsobviously to 
do all of them is a daunting taskI will volunteer to compile the 37  (in 
production from 1981-1985) and send that info to Stu for inclusion somewhere on 
the album...Stu, please let me know if this becomes too onerous of a 
task...thanks! 

 
37 owners, I would like to compile this list similar to the others; name, rank 
and ZCC numbers please...! (and thanks)





Richard
1985 C 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584.4


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Cc: Stu <s...@cncphotoalbum.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 10:56 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s




The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time.  It 
crashed a few years back and I never took the time to restore it.
 
I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again.  
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back.  We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
rum & coke is left.
 
Stu



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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Stu. I found it on the Wayback Machine: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/owners/* (then 
filter results by .htm). 

I could ship you some good rum if that would help :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Stu" <s...@cncphotoalbum.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:55:11 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time. It crashed 
a few years back and I never took the time to restore it. 
I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again. 
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back. We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
rum & coke is left. 
Stu 

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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Stu via CnC-List]

The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time.  It 
crashed a few years back and I never took the time to restore it.

I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again.  
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back.  We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Gary. I haven't seen Stu's list of owners. Do you have a link? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:46:45 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 



Have you looked at Stu’s list of owners? I thought there were more of us on 
that. By the way, my #593 is named “Penniless” – wheel, traveler moved to 
bridgedeck. A poster on this list named Curtis has one in the 600’s down in the 
Carolina’s. 



Gary 




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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:05 AM 
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Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s 





This is great information. Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well. Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist? I only know of a few from 
this list: 





Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD 


Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft) 


Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York 


Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ? 


Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD 


Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD 


Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO 


Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, 


Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ? 


Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax 


Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ? 





Cheers, 


Randy 



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To: "cnc-list" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: "Frederick G Street" < f...@postaudio.net > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc. 





John — here’s some info for you: 





Frank Noragon 
S/V Cool Change 
C Landfall 38, #001 
Rose City Yacht Club 
Portland, Oregon 





(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe) 








Jeff Cole 
1979 C Landfall 38 


“Masala" 





(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think) 





— Fred 



Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 








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> wrote: 





Im just starting one judging by the feedback ! 


I got 7 replies already 


Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are 


Hull 



Year 



Owner 



Boat Name 



Built at 



Present Location 












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Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Joe at Zialater via CnC-List]

We own Zia, a 1975 30MK1.  We keep the boat at home in Mayo Maryland and
race the Wednesday night series at Pirates Cove Yacht Club on the West
River.  Stiff as a church, nimble and fast.

Hull #346 - Zia - Joe Boyle - Annapolis, MD (Wheel, A4)

Cheers - Joe
 



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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[jhnelson via CnC-List]

Muir Caileag is hull 549



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Date: 2016-08-18  3:04 AM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> 
Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

This is great information.  Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well.  Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist?  I only know of a few from 
this list:
Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MDHull #7 - Grenadine - Randy 
Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler aft)Hull #377 - Nobody's 
Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New YorkHull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ?Hull 
#540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MDHull #593 - Volunteer - Gary 
Nylander - St. Michaels, MDHull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, 
MOHull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, WIHull #? - Zia - Joe 
Boyle - ?Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - HalifaxHull #? - Cousin - 
Antoine Rose - ?
Cheers,Randy
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Cc: "Frederick G Street" <f...@postaudio.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc.

John — here’s some info for you:
Frank Noragon
S/V Cool Change
C Landfall 38, #001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon
(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe)

Jeff Cole
1979 C Landfall 38“Masala"
(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think)
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Im just starting one judging by the feedback !I got 7 replies alreadyDo you 
have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here is what 
the starting columns areHullYearOwnerBoat NameBuilt atPresent Location


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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Have you looked at Stu’s list of owners? I thought there were more of us on 
that. By the way, my #593 is named “Penniless” – wheel, traveler moved to 
bridgedeck. A poster on this list named Curtis has one in the 600’s down in the 
Carolina’s.

 

Gary

 

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CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:05 AM
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>
Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s

 

This is great information.  Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well.  Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist?  I only know of a few from 
this list:

 

Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD

Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft)

Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York

Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ?

Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD

Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD

Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO

Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, 

Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ?

Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax

Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ?

 

Cheers,

Randy

 

  _  

From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: "Frederick G Street" <f...@postaudio.net <mailto:f...@postaudio.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc.

 

John — here’s some info for you:

 

Frank Noragon
S/V Cool Change
C Landfall 38, #001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon

 

(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe)

 

 

Jeff Cole
1979 C Landfall 38

“Masala"

 

(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think)

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Im just starting one judging by the feedback !

I got 7 replies already

Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are


Hull

Year

Owner

Boat Name

Built at

Present Location

 

 


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Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

This is great information. Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well. Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist? I only know of a few from 
this list: 

Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD 
Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft) 
Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York 
Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ? 
Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD 
Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD 
Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO 
Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, WI 
Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ? 
Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax 
Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Frederick G Street"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc. 

John — here’s some info for you: 

Frank Noragon 
S/V Cool Change 
C Landfall 38, #001 
Rose City Yacht Club 
Portland, Oregon 

(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe) 


Jeff Cole 
1979 C Landfall 38 
“Masala" 

(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think) 

— Fred 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 




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> wrote: 

Im just starting one judging by the feedback ! 
I got 7 replies already 
Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are 
Hull 

Year 

Owner 

Boat Name 

Built at 

Present Location 






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Stus-List List Embarrassing... But sail leach hits back stay.

[TOM VINCENT via CnC-List]

I have the same issue and what we do on light air days is lower the halyard a 
few inches and use the cunningham to tighen the luff, you are not effecting the 
foot usually. 
Tom VincentFrolic II C 36 cbChesapeake City, MD   
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Re: Stus-List List Management

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Forth!

Unique and indispensable source of knowledge and advice. 
Better level of discussion than anywhere else on line. 
Made new friends through this list as well. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
C

 "Della Barba wrote: 
Third!
Between this list and Moyer I think I have the best supported ancient boat 
anyplace ☺
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Subject: Re: Stus-List List Management

Seconded.  Very valuable resource.  Thanks for everything Stu.

Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


From: "David Miles via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: "David Miles" <mi...@intergate.ca<mailto:mi...@intergate.ca>>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List List Management

Thx Stu.
Appreciate your work and the effort you put in. I find this VERY helpful as a 
new C owner.
I the people have been great and very helpful too. Great group.

Best regards,

David Miles
Impule
1988 C



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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Third!
Between this list and Moyer I think I have the best supported ancient boat 
anyplace ☺
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 16:08
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: randy.staff...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List List Management

Seconded.  Very valuable resource.  Thanks for everything Stu.

Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


From: "David Miles via CnC-List" 
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Cc: "David Miles" <mi...@intergate.ca<mailto:mi...@intergate.ca>>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List List Management

Thx Stu.
Appreciate your work and the effort you put in. I find this VERY helpful as a 
new C owner.
I the people have been great and very helpful too. Great group.

Best regards,

David Miles
Impule
1988 C


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
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Sent: March-18-16 11:13 AM
To: C Email List
Cc: Stu
Subject: Stus-List List Management

I did not realize how many people were getting the postings in Digest Format 
until I checked the subscribers’ list.  There are quite a few and many of them 
are using Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail email addresses.

Maybe part of the problems with Gmail are that when replying to a message, it 
does not appear that you can trim the message or change the subject line.

After a bit of searching, I found the solution:
•  Log in to Google Mail using your username and password.
•  Click the mail conversation you want to reply to with an edited subject or 
to trim the message.
•  In the textbox with the message “Click here to Reply or Forward,” click 
“Reply.”
•  To the left of the name of the person you are replying to, click the 
dropdown arrow. A pop-up menu appears.
•  From the pop-up menu, click “Edit subject.” Gmail’s new compose/reply window 
will appear for you to type your reply.
•  To edit the subject, click the cursor into the subject field and make the 
desired changes.

I don’t know if Yahoo and Hotmail are the same or not.

There could be other web-based email programs that prevent changing the subject 
line or trimming messages.  Maybe one of our members can help out there.

I can’t change much in the list mailing software, but I have made some changes:
a) digests will be smaller is size – so you might get more than 1 a day 
depending on traffic on the list
b) the actual size of messages to be sent has been decreased.  So if you do not 
trim your messages, they may get rejected.

In a previous message, some one asked “Who cares?”.  The answer is ME!  I 
own, maintain and pay for the list.  So, when you are in my playground, you 
play by my rules.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List List Management

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

"Maybe part of the problems with Gmail are that when replying to a message,
it does not appear that you can trim the message or change the subject
line."

Oh, but you can:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqKEJTjgNLE

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto
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[David Miles via CnC-List]

Thx Stu.
Appreciate your work and the effort you put in. I find this VERY helpful as a 
new C owner.
I the people have been great and very helpful too. Great group.
 
Best regards,
 
David Miles
Impule
1988 C
 
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: March-18-16 11:13 AM
To: C Email List
Cc: Stu
Subject: Stus-List List Management
 
I did not realize how many people were getting the postings in Digest Format 
until I checked the subscribers’ list.  There are quite a few and many of them 
are using Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail email addresses.
 
Maybe part of the problems with Gmail are that when replying to a message, it 
does not appear that you can trim the message or change the subject line.
 
After a bit of searching, I found the solution:
·  Log in to Google Mail using your username and password. 
·  Click the mail conversation you want to reply to with an edited subject or 
to trim the message. 
·  In the textbox with the message “Click here to Reply or Forward,” click 
“Reply.” 
·  To the left of the name of the person you are replying to, click the 
dropdown arrow. A pop-up menu appears. 
·  From the pop-up menu, click “Edit subject.” Gmail’s new compose/reply window 
will appear for you to type your reply. 
·  To edit the subject, click the cursor into the subject field and make the 
desired changes.  
 
I don’t know if Yahoo and Hotmail are the same or not.
 
There could be other web-based email programs that prevent changing the subject 
line or trimming messages.  Maybe one of our members can help out there.
 
I can’t change much in the list mailing software, but I have made some changes:
a) digests will be smaller is size – so you might get more than 1 a day 
depending on traffic on the list
b) the actual size of messages to be sent has been decreased.  So if you do not 
trim your messages, they may get rejected.
 
In a previous message, some one asked “Who cares?”.  The answer is ME!  I 
own, maintain and pay for the list.  So, when you are in my playground, you 
play by my rules.
 
Stu
  
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Re: Stus-List List Management

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Seconded. Very valuable resource. Thanks for everything Stu. 

Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

- Original Message -

From: "David Miles via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "David Miles" <mi...@intergate.ca> 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 12:22:28 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List Management 



Thx Stu. 

Appreciate your work and the effort you put in. I find this VERY helpful as a 
new C owner. 

I the people have been great and very helpful too. Great group. 




Best regards, 



David Miles 

Impule 

1988 C 






From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List 
Sent: March-18-16 11:13 AM 
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List List Management 





I did not realize how many people were getting the postings in Digest Format 
until I checked the subscribers’ list. There are quite a few and many of them 
are using Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail email addresses. 





Maybe part of the problems with Gmail are that when replying to a message, it 
does not appear that you can trim the message or change the subject line. 





After a bit of searching, I found the solution: 


· Log in to Google Mail using your username and password. 

· Click the mail conversation you want to reply to with an edited subject or to 
trim the message. 

· In the textbox with the message “Click here to Reply or Forward,” click 
“Reply.” 

· To the left of the name of the person you are replying to, click the dropdown 
arrow. A pop-up menu appears. 

· From the pop-up menu, click “Edit subject.” Gmail’s new compose/reply window 
will appear for you to type your reply. 

· To edit the subject, click the cursor into the subject field and make the 
desired changes. 





I don’t know if Yahoo and Hotmail are the same or not. 





There could be other web-based email programs that prevent changing the subject 
line or trimming messages. Maybe one of our members can help out there. 





I can’t change much in the list mailing software, but I have made some changes: 


a) digests will be smaller is size – so you might get more than 1 a day 
depending on traffic on the list 


b) the actual size of messages to be sent has been decreased. So if you do not 
trim your messages, they may get rejected. 





In a previous message, some one asked “Who cares?”. The answer is ME! I 
own, maintain and pay for the list. So, when you are in my playground, you play 
by my rules. 





Stu 




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Re: Stus-List List Management

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I would also suggest not using the digest unless you are on a radio link or 
cell phone link or something.
Most email programs have a way to organize via folders so you do not have to 
see all the list traffic live if you don’t want to.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:13 PM
To: C Email List
Cc: Stu
Subject: Stus-List List Management

I did not realize how many people were getting the postings in Digest Format 
until I checked the subscribers’ list.  There are quite a few and many of them 
are using Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail email addresses.

Maybe part of the problems with Gmail are that when replying to a message, it 
does not appear that you can trim the message or change the subject line.

After a bit of searching, I found the solution:
•  Log in to Google Mail using your username and password.
•  Click the mail conversation you want to reply to with an edited subject or 
to trim the message.
•  In the textbox with the message “Click here to Reply or Forward,” click 
“Reply.”
•  To the left of the name of the person you are replying to, click the 
dropdown arrow. A pop-up menu appears.
•  From the pop-up menu, click “Edit subject.” Gmail’s new compose/reply window 
will appear for you to type your reply.
•  To edit the subject, click the cursor into the subject field and make the 
desired changes.

I don’t know if Yahoo and Hotmail are the same or not.

There could be other web-based email programs that prevent changing the subject 
line or trimming messages.  Maybe one of our members can help out there.

I can’t change much in the list mailing software, but I have made some changes:
a) digests will be smaller is size – so you might get more than 1 a day 
depending on traffic on the list
b) the actual size of messages to be sent has been decreased.  So if you do not 
trim your messages, they may get rejected.

In a previous message, some one asked “Who cares?”.  The answer is ME!  I 
own, maintain and pay for the list.  So, when you are in my playground, you 
play by my rules.

Stu

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Stus-List List is working

[Stu via CnC-List]

It’s okay.  The list is working.  Everybody must be getting ready for lift-out.

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Re: Stus-List List is working

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Boat came out on Friday.  :-(

On the plus side once again the prayer meetings worked, not much growth 
on my boat (and lots on Bob's boat!).  This was my third season on a 
coat of Micron CSC, a few barnacles but nothing significant.  There is a 
J29 at the club that has VC Offshore on it, apparently it sat 2 months 
unused, and man that thing was a barnacle festival!  End to end.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2015-10-25 7:46 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
It’s okay.  The list is working.  Everybody must be getting ready for 
lift-out.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List List Also looking at a C 36 - engine at an angle?

[jtsails via CnC-List]

In my experience, the prop offset was designed to offset the effect of 
“prop-walk” when motoring forward. The trade-off is that the boat will 
“prop-walk” much more in reverse with the offset. If you have ever tried to 
drive a fin-keeled boat that has no offset in the prop, you will very much 
appreciate the trade-off. Every fin-keeled boat with no offset that I have ever 
helmed pulled to one side with a surprising amount of force when motoring in a 
straight line, and that gets old quickly! On our boats, that means a slight 
offset to the port side for the prop but the amount needed changes with every 
prop and rpm setting. the bonus is that we can remove our prop shaft without 
dropping the rudder. The negative is that the boat will pull to port 
dramatically when you go to reverse and use a lot rpms.
James
Delaney
C Mk 11
Oriental, NC

From: Mike Brannon via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Mike Brannon 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List Also looking at a C 36 - engine at an angle?

This allows you to remove the shaft without removing the rudder.  It also means 
the boat pushes to port while going ahead and pulls to port while going astern. 
  

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 197 C 36 CB 93295
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA

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  The engine is at a small angle because the shaft exits about 4 " to port of 
center. The shaft has to remain straight to the transmission.
   
  Tom Vincent
  Frolic II 1979 36' cb
  Chesapeake City, MD 

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Re: Stus-List List Also looking at a C 36 - engine at an angle?

[Mike Brannon via CnC-List]

This allows you to remove the shaft without removing the rudder.  It also means 
the boat pushes to port while going ahead and pulls to port while going astern. 
  

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 197 C 36 CB 93295
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 18:17, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The engine is at a small angle because the shaft exits about 4 " to port of 
> center. The shaft has to remain straight to the transmission.
>  
> Tom Vincent
> Frolic II 1979 36' cb
> Chesapeake City, MD 
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Stus-List List Also looking at a C 36 - engine at an angle?

[TOM VINCENT via CnC-List]

The engine is at a small angle because the shaft exits about 4 " to port of 
center. The shaft has to remain straight to the transmission.
 
Tom Vincent
Frolic II 1979 36' cb
Chesapeake City, MD 
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Re: Stus-List List down?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Chuck,

Congrats!  A/C?  I'm jealous!

We went out about 3:30 and got bak around 6:00 as the wind was dying.  On
cooler days there can be a nice evening breeze.
Joel

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Hi Joel,
 My son and I did the Race to Baltimore yesterday.  Light winds but a fun
 race w 60 boats that finished next to the docks in the harbor.  Damn hot.
 After the race we took a slip and plugged into shore power to run the AC
 and the cabin was heaven after the party.
 http://www.bcya.com/RaceToBaltimore/2015R2BResults.htm

 Are there winds in the evening on the Chesapeake?

 Chuck
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 *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');
 *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');
 *Cc: *Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joel.aron...@gmail.com');
 *Sent: *Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:35:53 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List List down?

 Heat index over 100.  Doing an evening sail.
 Joel

 On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote:

 I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?

 Tom Buscaglia
 S/V Alera
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon WA
 P 206.463.9200



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Re: Stus-List List down?

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

No wifi until today in Ladysmith BC.  Hope all are well!

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?
 
 Tom Buscaglia
 S/V Alera 
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon WA
 P 206.463.9200
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Stus-List List down?

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


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Re: Stus-List List down?

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Hi Joel, 
My son and I did the Race to Baltimore yesterday. Light winds but a fun race w 
60 boats that finished next to the docks in the harbor. Damn hot. After the 
race we took a slip and plugged into shore power to run the AC and the cabin 
was heaven after the party. 
http://www.bcya.com/RaceToBaltimore/2015R2BResults.htm 

Are there winds in the evening on the Chesapeake? 

Chuck 
- Original Message -

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:35:53 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List down? 

Heat index over 100. Doing an evening sail. 
Joel 

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Frederick G Street via CnC-List  
cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote: 



I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats… :^( 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 


blockquote

On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote: 

Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing? 

Tom Buscaglia 
S/V Alera 
1990 CC 37+/40 
Vashon WA 
P 206.463.9200 




/blockquote



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Re: Stus-List List down?

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?
 
 Tom Buscaglia
 S/V Alera 
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon WA
 P 206.463.9200
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Re: Stus-List List down?

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

Very light traffic...

Must be boat weekend.  Pouring down rain here in Halifax...


On 19/07/2015 2:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


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Re: Stus-List List down?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Heat index over 100.  Doing an evening sail.
Joel

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote:

 Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?

 Tom Buscaglia
 S/V Alera
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon WA
 P 206.463.9200



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Stus-List List aid

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

15 watt solar panel.  Best offer by July 1. Money will go to Stu. Free shipping 
to 48 states.  Works fine replaced by 50 watt panel because kids and their 
stuff use all my power. 
Joe
Coquina

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 22, 2015, at 9:18, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks Brian
  
 The injector rebuild is something that is on my list of upcoming projects
  
 Mike
  
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset 
 Beach via CnC-List
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:07 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: Nauset Beach
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles  Injector Rebuild
  
 Mike,
  
 I also have a 3GM30F and at the time [2010] the work on the head gasket and 
 injectors was done the engine was ~ 25 yo, 12 of which I had been the owner.  
 Was getting quite a bit soot on the transom, cold starts were becoming 
 increasingly difficult and the idle was rough.  As I had never done any major 
 work on the engine and since the head was pulled and sent to a machine shop 
 to be reconditioned, the mechanic recommended having the injectors sent out 
 to a shop to be rebuilt, rightly concluding the “spray pattern” was not 
 optimal.  It took about a week + but part of that time was due to the 
 injector shop owner had recently passed away and his widow was doing the 
 work, without all the “certified training.”  The injectors had to be redone.  
 The mechanic also adjusted the valves so everything was back in spec. 
  
 Pulling just the injectors did not appear to be an overly complicated 
 process.  The injector rebuild itself included replacing the nozzles and was 
 US$125 for each injector.  The total hours billed included a few other 
 repairs / replacements so would estimate the labor for the injectors 
 themselves were ~ 3 hours all in.  Add in a few other minor parts like copper 
 washers.
  
 HTH
  
 Brian
  
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
 via CnC-List
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:21 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: Hoyt, Mike
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles
  
 Brian
  
 What was involved with checking the injectors and having them rebuilt?  Was 
 it time consuming to remove them and costly for rebuild?
  
 Mike
 Persistence
 Yanmar 3GM30F
 Halifax
  
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset 
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 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:56 PM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: Nauset Beach
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles
  
 Edd,
  
 When I had my gasket replaced on my Yanmar a few years ago [was getting oil 
 in the coolant] the mechanic also highly recommended it would be a good time 
 to have the injectors checked  / rebuilt, and have a compression check on 
 each of the cylinders – one was near the minimum and the others were fine.  
 It all made a big difference in how the engine performed, the exhaust was 
 much less sooty and the transom actually stayed clean for a while. 
  
 Brian
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Re: Stus-List List etiquette

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Chuck

Current Boat?
Past Boat?
Previous Past Boat?
The one before that?
Or the oldest one you can remember?

Many of the questions posed are relative to many different types of boats and 
many are related to experiences had on previously owned boats.  The CC 36 our 
family owned was in fact a CC (as opposed to the rest of the boats I have 
owned)  and a beautiful and powerful boat but my experiences on that were 
mostly as a passenger or crew and I had little knowledge of the intimate 
workings of the boat.  On the other hand the Niagara 26 we owned was built and 
designed by George Hinterhoeller so was in almost every respect but name a CC. 
 Even used most of the same parts in its construction.  The Frers 33 we 
currently own is not only compared extensively to the CC 33-2 but has the same 
engine as many of the boats owned by people on this list.  Then of course we 
must not forget the CC 115 that we race on and spend more time on than our own 
boat…. So I guess that must be included as well ….  (PS – If I were wally there 
would be some symbol for a grin)

So here goes

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
1987 Frers 33
RNSYS Halifax, NS

Formerly
Nut Case
1987 J/27
BHYC Barrachois Harbour, NS

More formerly
Full Tilt 2
1979 Niagara 26
BHYC Barrachois Harbor, NS

Even before that
MonkeyBear
1974 Paceship P23
Halifax NS

Way before that
Blue Horizon No 1
1981 CC 36
RNSYS Halifax, NS

.. and at the same time …
Full Tilt
McVay Minuette
Halifax, NS

.. and the race boat (not mine – I just run the main and do spring prep)
Koobalibra
2007 CC 115
RNSYS Halifax, NS

(the signature is longer than the post!)


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:43 PM
To: Jim Watts; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List List etiquette

The other list etiquette thing is Boat model and location in the signature. 
 This has been brought up several times and so important when considering a 
proper response.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
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Re: Stus-List List etiquette

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Guilty as charged!  Unless someone can advise me otherwise, there is no setting 
on the IPhone to remove the email history automatically when replying to a 
message. I would gladly use such a setting for CC list emails.  Deleting the 
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[Chuck S via CnC-List]

The other list etiquette thing is Boat model and location in the signature. 
This has been brought up several times and so important when considering a 
proper response. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 
- Original Message -

From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:04:44 PM 
Subject: Stus-List List etiquette 


There is one particular thing that never seems to change on this list, and that 
is when some folks append the entire list digest when asking or answering a 
question. It would help everyone if the digest members would trim their post of 
all the extra digest contents. As soon as I see a quoted digest, I stop reading 
. It increases bandwidth usage and is irritating as hell. 

Jim Watts 
Paradigm Shift 
CC 35 Mk III 
Victoria, BC 

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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

I rarely post, but do try to read most things.  Some subjects are more
important and relevant to me and some posts I just plain delete either
because I have a zillion posts in my mailbox or because I'm not interested
in subject or how the conversation has digressed from the topic.

I would much prefer a forum format.  I am part of the Cruiser's and
Sailing Forums and it works very well for me.  I would like to see
something like it.  This current list thing is a pain in my rumpus trying
to find the posting I want and scrolling past all the endless copied posts
that completely unnecessary.  My emaill does NOT automatically sort through
the minutia.

Sure topics do tend to digress in the same manner, but

- they send me an email automatically each day with latest topics posted to
in a simple format with links to the post.
- can look back a very long way in various topics and read up on the
issue.  This is helpful for new folks or if you have a new problem and you
want to learn more from the past.
- pictures are nice.  I have a few things I need help identifying and no
way to post it here and don't know where to begin describing them.  A forum
could help with that.

Ugh, can't think of anything else at the moment.  I know there are more
benefits to forum.

FORUM IS MY VOTE!
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Stus-List List etiquette

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

There is one particular thing that never seems to change on this list, and
that is when some folks append the entire list digest when asking or
answering a question. It would help everyone if the digest members would
trim their post of all the extra digest contents. As soon as I see a quoted
digest, *I stop reading*. It increases bandwidth usage and is irritating as
hell.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List List etiquette

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I think Jim was specifically refering to the digest responses where the
entire synopsis of the last weeks conversation is included as part of the
email.
On Mar 14, 2015 5:16 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Guilty as charged!  Unless someone can advise me otherwise, there is no
 setting on the IPhone to remove the email history automatically when
 replying to a message. I would gladly use such a setting for CC list
 emails.  Deleting the history, while not too difficult, takes an extra
 couple of steps that I frequently forget to do. Those steps also
 unfortunately delete my signature which contains the list-requested boat
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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[robert via CnC-List]

I vote 'LIST'.if this group of CC owners  (and Mike Hoyt) 
transition to something like a forum or Facebook, I doubt I will be 
participating.


I like the ease and simplicity of this 'list'.from the responses I 
have read so far, I think the majority agree.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-03-14 9:12 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:


If you all go to Facebook I will be gone. I will not log into that for 
any reason.


Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
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*Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 9:30 PM
*To:* Bob Hickson; 1 CnC List
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List List or forum

I'm allergic to Facebook. There is a forum type already in the Yahoo 
group that nobody goes to. Low bandwidth is good.



Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 13 March 2015 at 17:43, Bob Hickson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.

I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.

The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments
that are only indirectly CC related.

A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing
useful information.

If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED
CC Facebook group (this is type of Facebook is open only by
invitation).

The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the
only reason that I have a Facebook account)

Fair Winds,

Bob Hickson, P. Eng.

Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,

C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,

416-919-2297 tel:416-919-2297

bobhick...@rogers.com mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com


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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Indigo via CnC-List]

My vote is to stick with the list.  

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 On Mar 14, 2015, at 08:12, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 If you all go to Facebook I will be gone. I will not log into that for any 
 reason.
  
 Joe Della Barba
 j...@dellabarba.com
 Coquina
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts 
 via CnC-List
 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:30 PM
 To: Bob Hickson; 1 CnC List
 Subject: Re: Stus-List List or forum
  
 I'm allergic to Facebook. There is a forum type already in the Yahoo group 
 that nobody goes to. Low bandwidth is good.
 
 Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 CC 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC
  
 On 13 March 2015 at 17:43, Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.
  
 I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.
  
 The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are 
 only indirectly CC related.
 A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful 
 information.
  
 If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC 
 Facebook group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).
 The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only reason 
 that I have a Facebook account)
  
 Fair Winds,
  
 Bob Hickson, P. Eng.
 Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,
 C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,
 416-919-2297
 bobhick...@rogers.com
  
  
  
 
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If you all go to Facebook I will be gone. I will not log into that for any 
reason.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com 

Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:30 PM
To: Bob Hickson; 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List List or forum

 

I'm allergic to Facebook. There is a forum type already in the Yahoo group that 
nobody goes to. Low bandwidth is good. 




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 13 March 2015 at 17:43, Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.

 

I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.

 

The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are only 
indirectly CC related.

A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful 
information.

 

If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC Facebook 
group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).

The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only reason 
that I have a Facebook account)

 

Fair Winds,

 

Bob Hickson, P. Eng.

Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,

C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,

416-919-2297 tel:416-919-2297 

bobhick...@rogers.com mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com 

 

 

 


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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

agree...if it ain't broke don't fix it, where did I hear that before...on
this list I think

Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:59 AM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

  I vote 'LIST'.if this group of CC owners  (and Mike Hoyt) transition
 to something like a forum or Facebook, I doubt I will be participating.

 I like the ease and simplicity of this 'list'.from the responses I
 have read so far, I think the majority agree.

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.


 On 2015-03-14 9:12 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:

  If you all go to Facebook I will be gone. I will not log into that for
 any reason.



 Joe Della Barba

 j...@dellabarba.com

 Coquina

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
 cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Watts via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 9:30 PM
 *To:* Bob Hickson; 1 CnC List
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List List or forum



 I'm allergic to Facebook. There is a forum type already in the Yahoo group
 that nobody goes to. Low bandwidth is good.


   Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 CC 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC



 On 13 March 2015 at 17:43, Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

  My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.



 I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.



 The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are
 only indirectly CC related.

 A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful
 information.



 If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC
 Facebook group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).

 The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only
 reason that I have a Facebook account)



 Fair Winds,



 Bob Hickson, P. Eng.

 Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,

 C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,

 416-919-2297

 bobhick...@rogers.com








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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm allergic to Facebook. There is a forum type already in the Yahoo group
that nobody goes to. Low bandwidth is good.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 13 March 2015 at 17:43, Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.



 I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.



 The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are
 only indirectly CC related.

 A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful
 information.



 If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC
 Facebook group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).

 The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only
 reason that I have a Facebook account)



 Fair Winds,



 Bob Hickson, P. Eng.

 Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,

 C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,

 416-919-2297

 bobhick...@rogers.com







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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

I'd like to put forward a vote to try the forum. 
I've been using this list for over 12 years. I'm a big fan and try to give back 
and help newer skippers as I was helped when I first got my CC. But I'm 
starting to think the forum format might be better? Sometimes I google a 
question on the web and find wonderful advice and recommendations from the 
other forums like Sailnet and Sailing Anarchy and many others, but I don't 
think the list is open to those kinds of searches? 

If Stu would like the challenge, fine. If its a pain to do, don't bother. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:43:15 PM 
Subject: Stus-List List or forum 



My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing. 



I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done. 



The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are only 
indirectly CC related. 

A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful 
information. 



If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC Facebook 
group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation). 

The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only reason 
that I have a Facebook account) 



Fair Winds, 



Bob Hickson, P. Eng. 

Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club, 

C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours, 

416-919-2297 

bobhick...@rogers.com 








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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[jtsails via CnC-List]

I’m with Bob
James
Delaney
CC 38 Mk2
Oriental, NC

From: Bob Hickson via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List List or forum

My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.

 

I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.

 

The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are only 
indirectly CC related.

A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful 
information.

 

If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC Facebook 
group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).

The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only reason 
that I have a Facebook account)

 

Fair Winds,

 

Bob Hickson, P. Eng.

Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,

C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,

416-919-2297

bobhick...@rogers.com

 

 

 




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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

I don't do Facebook and can just barely do anything computer.Needless to say, I 
like the list since I can usually do email.RonWild CheriCC 30-1STL

  From: Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:43 PM
 Subject: Stus-List List or forum
   
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worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.  I would like to see a 
change to a forum if it can be done.  The vast majority of the items on the 
list are personal comments that are only indirectly CC related.A searchable 
forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful information.  If some 
members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC Facebook group 
(this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).The CC 29 Association 
has a closed Facebook group (this is the only reason that I have a Facebook 
account)  Fair Winds,  Bob Hickson, P. Eng.Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,C and C 
29 mark 2, Flying Colours,416-919-2297bobhick...@rogers.com      
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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Facebook.  Talk about a place where it is impossible to find anything, for
me at least.

Ken H.

On 13 March 2015 at 21:43, Bob Hickson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 My 5 cents worth … it is contrary to the comments that I am seeing.



 I would like to see a change to a forum if it can be done.



 The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are
 only indirectly CC related.

 A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful
 information.



 If some members want a Facebook type “list” why not form a CLOSED CC
 Facebook group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).

 The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only
 reason that I have a Facebook account)



 Fair Winds,



 Bob Hickson, P. Eng.

 Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club,

 C and C 29 mark 2, Flying Colours,

 416-919-2297

 bobhick...@rogers.com







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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Bob;

 

It seems that what you are3 wanting is pretty much what is on the DIY pages
of the photo album.

 

Personally, I value the personal comments and experiences on the list, even
if they are only tangentially related to CCs. There are folks on the list
that I first met a couple of versions of the list - pushing 20 years -
ago, and folks on the list who don't even own a CC anymore. The list is a
community.

 

And as far as a CLOSED Facebook page goes, I have a friend with a new to her
29-2. She discovered the Photo Album and the list on her own. If the CC 29
Facebook page is invitation only, how would she even find it, let alone get
an invitation to join. 

 

The Phot Album and this list are one of the strongest reasons I can think of
for buying an older CC in preference to another brand.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Hickson via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List List or forum

 

The vast majority of the items on the list are personal comments that are
only indirectly CC related.

A searchable forum would be far more useful in terms of sharing useful
information.

 

If some members want a Facebook type list why not form a CLOSED CC
Facebook group (this is type of Facebook is open only by invitation).

The CC 29 Association has a closed Facebook group (this is the only reason
that I have a Facebook account)

 

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