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Agree, there are enough emails already with out getting into powerboats From: Richard Bush via CnC-List Sent: March-31-21 2:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: jlam...@outlook.com; Richard Bush Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats I would suggest that when the topic becomes "best powerboats" it is appropriately for another forum; Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1085 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman mailto:jlam...@outlook.com> > Sent: Wed, Mar 31, 2021 12:14 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Of course! But maybe it can be agreed that side conversations that might not be of broad interest to the community be conducted on the side. All I am saying. Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> _ From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:27:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Danny Haughey mailto:djhaug...@juno.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" mailto:jlam...@outlook.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman 1981 C Harmony Ludington, MI _ From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com
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Edd thought he escaped... But between me and now Danny... From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 12:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Edd, That was me, Danny, that mentioned the interest down there Danny -- Original Message -- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:36:43 -0400 Jeff, Buy now - prices are going up, up, up! Happy to hear. Though still relatively new here, I do have a pretty good "lay of the land" and will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course) - and always happy to help out a fellow C'er. And I'm not planning to go anywhere list-wise. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" mailto:jlam...@outlook.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman 1981 C Harmony Ludington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We've looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn't like, whether it's the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I'm not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126's has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one - may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I'm well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I'm looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can't wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations And, our Prime Directive will not change - Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly - I just want to be at a speed that I won't need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking
Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
I would suggest that when the topic becomes "best powerboats" it is appropriately for another forum; Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1085 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman Sent: Wed, Mar 31, 2021 12:14 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Of course! But maybe it can be agreed that side conversations that might not be of broad interest to the community be conducted on the side. All I am saying. Get Outlook for Android From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:27:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" To: Stus-List Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman1981 C HarmonyLudington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels. All the best, Edd Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https:/
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Danny, So sorry for the name mixup. Please don’t get offended unless I call you “David Risch” All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: Edd, That was me, Danny, that mentioned the interest down there Danny -- Original Message -- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:36:43 -0400 Jeff, Buy now — prices are going up, up, up! Happy to hear. Though still relatively new here, I do have a pretty good “lay of the land” and will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course) — and always happy to help out a fellow C’er. And I’m not planning to go anywhere list-wise. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" mailto:jlam...@outlook.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman 1981 C Harmony Ludington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it woul
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Edd, That was me, Danny, that mentioned the interest down there Danny -- Original Message -- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:36:43 -0400 Jeff, Buy now prices are going up, up, up! Happy to hear. Though still relatively new here, I do have a pretty good lay of the land and will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course) and always happy to help out a fellow Cer. And Im not planning to go anywhere list-wise. All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote:It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message --From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" To: Stus-List Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboatsDate: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman1981 C HarmonyLudington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. Weve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didnt like, whether its the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. Im not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. Im well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but Im looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we cant wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations. And, our Prime Directive will not change Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly I just want to be at a speed that I wont need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons.Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels. All the best, Edd Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contr
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Of course! But maybe it can be agreed that side conversations that might not be of broad interest to the community be conducted on the side. All I am saying. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:27:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" To: Stus-List Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman 1981 C Harmony Ludington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels. All the best, Edd Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray=04%7C01%7C%7Cda939402fb954c8ca80a08d8f459d41f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637528013929715561%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=jWuUWa1QEztE1NjSKiC9AHnVAMqSzQwWVwXzAbzYxL0%3D=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.out
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Jeff, Buy now — prices are going up, up, up! Happy to hear. Though still relatively new here, I do have a pretty good “lay of the land” and will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course) — and always happy to help out a fellow C’er. And I’m not planning to go anywhere list-wise. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" To: Stus-List Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman 1981 C Harmony Ludington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels. All the best, Edd Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray=04%7C01%7C%7C8899ee9a660b4a2801f008d8f44dfbb2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637527963058961191%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=WAB1VblmciV6A1tSLhVvKL3ilgOq7zVWwvzUg9vQL3I%3D=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to
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It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different type of vessel. Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well! -- Original Message -- From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" To: Stus-List Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman1981 C HarmonyLudington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. Weve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didnt like, whether its the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. Im not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. Im well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but Im looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we cant wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations. And, our Prime Directive will not change Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly I just want to be at a speed that I wont need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons.Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels. All the best, Edd Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman 1981 C Harmony Ludington, MI From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Danny, Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels. All the best, Edd Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray=04%7C01%7C%7C8899ee9a660b4a2801f008d8f44dfbb2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637527963058961191%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=WAB1VblmciV6A1tSLhVvKL3ilgOq7zVWwvzUg9vQL3I%3D=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray=04%7C01%7C%7C8899ee9a660b4a2801f008d8f44dfbb2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637527963058961191%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=WAB1VblmciV6A1tSLhVvKL3ilgOq7zVWwvzUg9vQL3I%3D=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Joe, Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance and safety level. Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas. I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor. Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I won’t need to take extra time off. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat without going much faster. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41? Look at the Sabre Salons. Dennis C. > On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List > wrote: > > Danny, > > Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a > sedan bridge with diesels. > > All the best, > > Edd > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
