Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[rockland bazemore via CnC-List]

Hi all, for making new floorboards for a laminate I was thinking of 3/4"
marine ply with coats of epoxy after getting to the right size. Then using
epoxy to attach the laminate. Would love to keep them as light as
possible but still waterproof. Is there a better way to go on this?
thanks!

Rockland Bazemore
S/V Blue Pearl
C&C 37/40+
Port Washington, NY



On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:39 PM Brian Davis via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just did this on my floor panels inside and the companion ways steps
> that I completely refinished. I wanted to keep the wood semi gloss finish
> but then taped off specific patches in areas of concern and sprinkled a
> rubber granule called Soft Sand in between coats. Came out wonderful!
> Pictures are on my Instagram pages.  Search:  nina1980cc
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 9:22 AM Bailey White via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Re concerns on traction, after refinishing the floors with a gloss, I was
>> concerned about traction but this has not been an issue for me even when
>> the floor is wet.  I'm not sure satin or gloss finishes are really that
>> different in terms of traction.  On my boat, rubber soled shoes grip great
>> at any heeling level and barefoot is not bad.
>>
>> I sail on a lake where we don't have heavy seas though.  Offshore / Great
>> Lakes boats might want to paint some light level of non-skid in
>> regardless of the finish?  Apparently there used to be a product called
>> Ultimate Sole that was meant for this application.  Not sure what is out
>> there that is equivalent now.
>>
>> Bailey White
>> 1979  C&C 36
>> Atlanta, GA
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Brian Davis via CnC-List]

I just did this on my floor panels inside and the companion ways steps that
I completely refinished. I wanted to keep the wood semi gloss finish but
then taped off specific patches in areas of concern and sprinkled a rubber
granule called Soft Sand in between coats. Came out wonderful! Pictures are
on my Instagram pages.  Search:  nina1980cc

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 9:22 AM Bailey White via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Re concerns on traction, after refinishing the floors with a gloss, I was
> concerned about traction but this has not been an issue for me even when
> the floor is wet.  I'm not sure satin or gloss finishes are really that
> different in terms of traction.  On my boat, rubber soled shoes grip great
> at any heeling level and barefoot is not bad.
>
> I sail on a lake where we don't have heavy seas though.  Offshore / Great
> Lakes boats might want to paint some light level of non-skid in
> regardless of the finish?  Apparently there used to be a product called
> Ultimate Sole that was meant for this application.  Not sure what is out
> there that is equivalent now.
>
> Bailey White
> 1979  C&C 36
> Atlanta, GA
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Keep in mind folks that this is a sink in the fore cabin which is only used by 
guests,  and to the best of my knowledge, the sink has never been used other 
than to test it.  There is a galley sink 7 ft. away, as is the sink in the 
head.  If it turns out to be much more expensive, I might keep the seacock, but 
having one I can't really access goes against my grain.  I could, in the 
alternative, put a second back in and simply leave it shut off.However, as long 
as the drain hose goes in the sump where the bilge pump draws from, any limited 
water that went down that sink would be quickly and easily pumped 
overboard.Just weighing my options,BruceSent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message From: dwight veinot via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/8/20  7:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor So even if you di the best where is this 
stuff goingOn Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:34 PM David Risch via CnC-List 
 wrote:





Over the side...or a potentially slimy smelly bilge.   Your choice. Me...  I 
would keep the seacock and figure it out.  Your hoses newish?   Hose failure 
rate is low.  As opposed to a consistent bilge soup


  





Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 



From: CnC-List  on behalf of dwight veinot via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:05:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor
 



Ok keep it in the bilge. Or???



On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:19 PM 
David Risch via CnC-List  wrote:




Bruce,
 
Grey water is not great for the bilge.  There is a reason why boats properly 
plumbed, send their shower water and icebox water (also grey water)  over the 
side. 

 

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

 


From: CnC-List 
On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor


 



Hi Ken,










 


That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it off 
because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.  
Realistically, I won't pull
 out the batteries to open & close the seacock on any regular basis, and if it 
or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly impossible to get to.  As it is, we 
don't use the sink anyway. 



 


I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that area 
for an extra house battery. 



 


As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge and 
putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for anything 
other than washing
 hands or brushing teeth.


 


At least that's what I'm thinking for now,



 


Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net



 


 





On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List 

 wrote: 


 


 





Hi Bruce,

 


I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through the 
thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a few
 years ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.


 


A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't you 
just have them replace it?


 


Ken H.


 



On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:






Hi Edd,


 


As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for
 repair until the 29th.  


 


During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward
 sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing. 



 


So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.


 


Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :( 



 


Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net



 


 





On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 

 wrote: 


 


 




Bruce,

 


LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/ 


 


I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going. 








All the best,


 


Edd


 


 



Edd M. Schillay


Captain of the Starship Enterprise


C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B


Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



 



Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


 












 











 

On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 



I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?


 


 


 



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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

So even if you di the best where is this stuff going

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:34 PM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Over the side...or a potentially slimy smelly bilge.   Your choice. Me...
> I would keep the seacock and figure it out.  Your hoses newish?   Hose
> failure rate is low.  As opposed to a consistent bilge soup
>
>
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of dwight
> veinot via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:05:07 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* dwight veinot 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor
>
> Ok keep it in the bilge. Or???
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:19 PM
> David Risch via CnC-List  wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
>
>
> Grey water is not great for the bilge.  There is a reason why boats
> properly plumbed, send their shower water and icebox water (also grey
> water)  over the side.
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Whitmore via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:30 PM
> *To:* Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
> *Cc:* Bruce Whitmore 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor
>
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>
>
>
> That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it
> off because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.
> Realistically, I won't pull out the batteries to open & close the seacock
> on any regular basis, and if it or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly
> impossible to get to.  As it is, we don't use the sink anyway.
>
>
>
> I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that
> area for an extra house battery.
>
>
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge
> and putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for
> anything other than washing hands or brushing teeth.
>
>
>
> At least that's what I'm thinking for now,
>
>
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through
> the thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a
> few years ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.
>
>
>
> A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't
> you just have them replace it?
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Edd,
>
>
>
> As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is
> now just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in
> for repair until the 29th.
>
>
>
> During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink
> seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the
> forward sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.
> I will also have them replace the cutlass bearing.
>
>
>
> So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and
> apply lonseal if I like it.
>
>
>
> Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(
>
>
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
>
>
>
> LONSEAL, based in California. See:
> https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/
>
>
>
> I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going.
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
>
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
>
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
>
> 

Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Over the side...or a potentially slimy smelly bilge.   Your choice. Me...  I 
would keep the seacock and figure it out.  Your hoses newish?   Hose failure 
rate is low.  As opposed to a consistent bilge soup


Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: CnC-List  on behalf of dwight veinot via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:05:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

Ok keep it in the bilge. Or???

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:19 PM
David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
wrote:

Bruce,



Grey water is not great for the bilge.  There is a reason why boats properly 
plumbed, send their shower water and icebox water (also grey water)  over the 
side.



David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650



From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Bruce Whitmore mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor



Hi Ken,



That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it off 
because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.  
Realistically, I won't pull out the batteries to open & close the seacock on 
any regular basis, and if it or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly 
impossible to get to.  As it is, we don't use the sink anyway.



I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that area 
for an extra house battery.



As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge and 
putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for anything 
other than washing hands or brushing teeth.



At least that's what I'm thinking for now,



Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>





On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:





Hi Bruce,



I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through the 
thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a few years 
ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.



A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't you 
just have them replace it?



Ken H.



On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi Edd,



As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for 
repair until the 29th.



During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward 
sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing.



So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.



Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(



Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>





On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:





Bruce,



LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/



I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going.

All the best,



Edd





Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>















On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?







Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device



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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Ok keep it in the bilge. Or???

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:19 PM
David Risch via CnC-List  wrote:

> Bruce,
>
>
>
> Grey water is not great for the bilge.  There is a reason why boats
> properly plumbed, send their shower water and icebox water (also grey
> water)  over the side.
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Whitmore via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:30 PM
> *To:* Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
> *Cc:* Bruce Whitmore 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor
>
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>
>
>
> That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it
> off because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.
> Realistically, I won't pull out the batteries to open & close the seacock
> on any regular basis, and if it or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly
> impossible to get to.  As it is, we don't use the sink anyway.
>
>
>
> I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that
> area for an extra house battery.
>
>
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge
> and putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for
> anything other than washing hands or brushing teeth.
>
>
>
> At least that's what I'm thinking for now,
>
>
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through
> the thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a
> few years ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.
>
>
>
> A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't
> you just have them replace it?
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Edd,
>
>
>
> As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is
> now just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in
> for repair until the 29th.
>
>
>
> During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink
> seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the
> forward sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.
> I will also have them replace the cutlass bearing.
>
>
>
> So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and
> apply lonseal if I like it.
>
>
>
> Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(
>
>
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
>
>
>
> LONSEAL, based in California. See:
> https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/
>
>
>
> I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going.
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
>
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
>
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
>
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> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

A word to the wise re lonseal--I was thinking of this as a DIY project 
initially. As I got further into the manuals about how to use the glue they 
recommended, I bailed and had a yard do it. 
Although lonseal claims  you can use epoxy/West System, their own glue has a 
maximum drying time of 30 minutes plus they recommended that their glue be 
mixed all at once to insure the proper ratio.
Given the size and number of my sole boards, the yard put 2 workers on it and 
barely got it done in the time limit(~30 minutes). Since the product itself 
(Defender was least expensive) cost about 6 boat bucks, it was not something to 
waste.
YMMV
Charlie Nelson


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

Hi Edd,
As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for 
repair until the 29th.  

During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward 
sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing.  

So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.
Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(  

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce,
LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/ 
I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log





 



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wrote:
I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?


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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Bruce,

Grey water is not great for the bilge.  There is a reason why boats properly 
plumbed, send their shower water and icebox water (also grey water)  over the 
side.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

Hi Ken,

That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it off 
because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.  
Realistically, I won't pull out the batteries to open & close the seacock on 
any regular basis, and if it or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly 
impossible to get to.  As it is, we don't use the sink anyway.

I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that area 
for an extra house battery.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge and 
putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for anything 
other than washing hands or brushing teeth.

At least that's what I'm thinking for now,

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>


On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Hi Bruce,

I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through the 
thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a few years 
ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.

A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't you 
just have them replace it?

Ken H.

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Edd,

As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for 
repair until the 29th.

During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward 
sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing.

So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.

Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>


On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Bruce,

LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/

I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>











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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Guys strip to teak and holly. Try one coat sikkens cetol. Its good. Did
mine years ago. Its fine

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:30 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it
> off because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.
> Realistically, I won't pull out the batteries to open & close the seacock
> on any regular basis, and if it or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly
> impossible to get to.  As it is, we don't use the sink anyway.
>
> I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that
> area for an extra house battery.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge
> and putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for
> anything other than washing hands or brushing teeth.
>
> At least that's what I'm thinking for now,
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through
> the thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a
> few years ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.
>
> A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't
> you just have them replace it?
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Edd,
>
> As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is
> now just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in
> for repair until the 29th.
>
> During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink
> seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the
> forward sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.
> I will also have them replace the cutlass bearing.
>
> So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and
> apply lonseal if I like it.
>
> Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> LONSEAL, based in California. See:
> https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/
>
> I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hi Ken,
That is certainly an option, but I was thinking about simply blocking it off 
because as of now, I have two batteries up under the forward bench.  
Realistically, I won't pull out the batteries to open & close the seacock on 
any regular basis, and if it or the hose ever fails, it will be nearly 
impossible to get to.  As it is, we don't use the sink anyway.  

I don't like the idea of a seacock I can't access, yet I like using that area 
for an extra house battery.  

As far as I'm concerned, I'm OK with just letting it drain into the bilge and 
putting a small sticker there to inform people not to use the sink for anything 
other than washing hands or brushing teeth.
At least that's what I'm thinking for now, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 4:22:08 PM EDT, Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Bruce,
I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through the 
thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a few years 
ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.
A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't you 
just have them replace it?
Ken H.
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Edd,
As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for 
repair until the 29th.  

During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward 
sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing.  

So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.
Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(  

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce,
LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/ 
I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log





 



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wrote:
I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?


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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hi Bruce,

I'm pretty sure the forward sink won't drain very well, if at all, through
the thru hull the for galley sink drain.  We tried something like that a
few years ago and it just air locked and wouldn't drain.

A Forespar Marelon replacement sea cock won't cost vey much,  Why don't you
just have them replace it?

Ken H.

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Edd,
>
> As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is
> now just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in
> for repair until the 29th.
>
> During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink
> seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the
> forward sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.
> I will also have them replace the cutlass bearing.
>
> So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and
> apply lonseal if I like it.
>
> Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> LONSEAL, based in California. See:
> https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/
>
> I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I was thinking the same thing, Edd.  Where did you get your sample?
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

$21,000? Ouch. I’ll be flipping off JetSki’ers for the rest of the season now 
in your honor. 

Between all the cut-outs, finger holes, screw holes and lining up the stripes, 
I think I’m better off with a pro installer. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Edd,

As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for 
repair until the 29th.  

During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward 
sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing.  

So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.

Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(  

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Bruce,

LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/ 
 

I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hi Edd,
As it turns out, the quote on the damage to Astralis from the jetski is now 
just over $21,000 not including the dinghy, and the boat won't get in for 
repair until the 29th.  

During that time, I want them to redo the bottom and pull the forward sink 
seacock that is frozen and glass over it.  I plan on just having the forward 
sink drain into the bilge or tee it off to the galley sink drain.  I will also 
have them replace the cutlass bearing.  

So, it might make sense to use that time to bring all the boards home and apply 
lonseal if I like it.
Might as well try to kill as many birds at one time as possible.  :(  

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 2:08:26 PM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce,
LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/ 
I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

LONSEAL, based in California. See: 
https://lonseal.com/products/product-details/line/LONMARINEsupregsupWOOD/ 

I just need to hunt around for an installer so I can get a quote going. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











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[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Go for it Edd--just had mine done that way.
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom


-Original Message-
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

All,
I am now seriously considering a vinyl teak-and-holly covering that will be 
maintenance free and should outlive me. A sample I received today looks and 
feels like wood. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List 
 wrote:
I had to replace my floorboards that I had used Polyurethane on.  They looked 
great at first, but the Polyurethane didn’t seal well and I developed 
delamination at the ends of the boards…  Neil1982 C&C 32 FoxFireRock Hall, MD  
From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of ssjohnson via 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor  I second Dave's experience "I 
did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast Drying 
Polyurethane Satin. ?So far, so good. ?Dave"  I did have a perceived problem 
with the floor being slipperynot underfoot but with a cooler and rugs 
sliding around.  So I laid on a coat of Minwax, sprinkled ground walnut shells 
lightly on the wet minwax, and then, when dry, put another coat of minwax 
down... basically because it was a tad too rugged.    Nowthis hasn't been 
tested yet and I am not sure I like the way it looks but so much for percieved 
problems.   Spencer Johnson84 LF38 "Alegria " #165On the hard in Waukegan.. 
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

All,

I am now seriously considering a vinyl teak-and-holly covering that will be 
maintenance free and should outlive me. A sample I received today looks and 
feels like wood. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
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On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I had to replace my floorboards that I had used Polyurethane on.  They looked 
great at first, but the Polyurethane didn’t seal well and I developed 
delamination at the ends of the boards…
 
Neil
1982 C&C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD
 
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Cc: ssjohnson mailto:ssjohn...@aol.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor
 
I second Dave's experience 
"
I did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast 
Drying Polyurethane Satin. ?So far, so good. ?Dave"
 
I did have a perceived problem with the floor being slipperynot underfoot 
but with a cooler and rugs sliding around.  So I laid on a coat of Minwax, 
sprinkled ground walnut shells lightly on the wet minwax, and then, when dry, 
put another coat of minwax down... basically because it was a tad too rugged.   
 Nowthis hasn't been tested yet and I am not sure I like the way it looks 
but so much for percieved problems. 
 
Spencer Johnson
84 LF38 "Alegria " #165
On the hard in Waukegan.. with a leaking fuel tank :-(
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[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

I had to replace my floorboards that I had used Polyurethane on.  They looked 
great at first, but the Polyurethane didn’t seal well and I developed 
delamination at the ends of the boards…

 

Neil

1982 C&C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

 

I second Dave's experience 

"

I did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast 
Drying Polyurethane Satin. ?So far, so good. ?Dave"

 

I did have a perceived problem with the floor being slipperynot underfoot 
but with a cooler and rugs sliding around.  So I laid on a coat of Minwax, 
sprinkled ground walnut shells lightly on the wet minwax, and then, when dry, 
put another coat of minwax down... basically because it was a tad too rugged.   
 Nowthis hasn't been tested yet and I am not sure I like the way it looks 
but so much for percieved problems. 

 

Spencer Johnson

84 LF38 "Alegria " #165

On the hard in Waukegan.. with a leaking fuel tank :-(

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I second Dave's experience "I did mine last winter and used a standard floor 
polyurethane: Minwax Fast Drying Polyurethane Satin. ?So far, so good. ?Dave"I 
did have a perceived problem with the floor being slipperynot underfoot but 
with a cooler and rugs sliding around.  So I laid on a coat of Minwax, 
sprinkled ground walnut shells lightly on the wet minwax, and then, when dry, 
put another coat of minwax down... basically because it was a tad too rugged.   
 Nowthis hasn't been tested yet and I am not sure I like the way it looks 
but so much for percieved problems. Spencer Johnson84 LF38 "Alegria " #165On 
the hard in Waukegan.. with a leaking fuel tank :-(___

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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I wouldn't consider anything but Epiphanes gloss varnish for the cabin sole. 
When wet it’s no more slippery than any other finish and the color is gorgeous 
while durability is as good as anything else. That’s what I put on my 40 (8 
coats from bare wood) and after five years it still looked lovely. It’s on 
Masquerade, too.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Jul 8, 2020, at 13:21, Bailey White via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Re concerns on traction, after refinishing the floors with a gloss, I was 
> concerned about traction but this has not been an issue for me even when the 
> floor is wet.  I'm not sure satin or gloss finishes are really that different 
> in terms of traction.  On my boat, rubber soled shoes grip great at any 
> heeling level and barefoot is not bad.
> 
> I sail on a lake where we don't have heavy seas though.  Offshore / Great 
> Lakes boats might want to paint some light level of non-skid in regardless of 
> the finish?  Apparently there used to be a product called Ultimate Sole that 
> was meant for this application.  Not sure what is out there that is 
> equivalent now.
> 
> Bailey White
> 1979  C&C 36
> Atlanta, GA
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[Bailey White via CnC-List]

Re concerns on traction, after refinishing the floors with a gloss, I was
concerned about traction but this has not been an issue for me even when
the floor is wet.  I'm not sure satin or gloss finishes are really that
different in terms of traction.  On my boat, rubber soled shoes grip great
at any heeling level and barefoot is not bad.

I sail on a lake where we don't have heavy seas though.  Offshore / Great
Lakes boats might want to paint some light level of non-skid in
regardless of the finish?  Apparently there used to be a product called
Ultimate Sole that was meant for this application.  Not sure what is out
there that is equivalent now.

Bailey White
1979  C&C 36
Atlanta, GA
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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I sawr a video, I think on Jamestown Distributors, where they used a hair dryer 
to draw out the bubbles in that heavy epoxy.

 

Bill Coleman

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 12:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bailey White
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

 

I tried something different on the floors.  After lightly sanding, I used 2 
coats of Topcoat epoxy on the floors and then a floor polyurethane gloss above 
that for hardness and UV protection.  I get lots of compliments as the floors 
looks glossy and wet.  A coat of Topcoat is something like 60 coats of varnish, 
at least per Topcoat's advertisement on the packaging.

 

I've had the floors in place for a year now and no issues.

 

Topcoat is inexpensive for epoxy at $60 for a gallon at Home Depot and is made 
for table tops and the like.  It made for a beautiful and thick clear coat over 
the original flooring.  I need to do one thin coat over the bottom of the 
boards now too.

 

My only lesson learned is to seal the floors before applying Topcoat.  
Otherwise, you risk small bubbles.  Those drove me nuts and I ended up sanding 
and re-applying to try to avoid.  I learned later that sealing the wood first 
would have made the most difference.  I tried a torch to remove bubbles and had 
only limited success.  

 

Bailey White 

1979 C&C 36

Atlanta, GA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Sound counter-intuitive but nope…

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

Worried about the floor being slippery when it gets a little wet no 
problems?

Gary
"Liberty"



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 Original message 
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Date: 7/7/20 11:33 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David Risch mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

As did I.
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

I did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast 
Drying Polyurethane Satin.  So far, so good.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

[cid:4073BE72-4704-4EA7-8EBA-B73B833F502B]


On Jul 7, 2020, at 7:44 AM, ahycrace via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Sorry for bringing this up again I know it was discussed before but I can't  
find the old discussions. I have just about finished stripping the floor in 
Liberty using that non toxic orange stuff from home depot it worked pretty 
good. I want to coat it with something not to slippery that looks good, glossy 
or satin finish as long as its protective and looks good what should I use?

Gary Kolc
Liberty
1976 38' Mk II
Hull # 99


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Worried about the floor being slippery when it gets a little wet no 
problems?Gary"Liberty"Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Tablet
 Original message From: David Risch via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/7/20  11:33 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Risch  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor 

As did I.  





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From: CnC-List  on behalf of David Knecht via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:23:57 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor
 

I did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast 
Drying Polyurethane Satin.  So far, so good.  Dave




S/V Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT






On Jul 7, 2020, at 7:44 AM, ahycrace via CnC-List  wrote:





Sorry for bringing this up again I know it was discussed before but I can't  
find the old discussions. I have just about finished stripping the floor in 
Liberty using that non toxic orange stuff from home depot it worked pretty good.
 I want to coat it with something not to slippery that looks good, glossy or 
satin finish as long as its protective and looks good what should I use?


Gary Kolc
Liberty
1976 38' Mk II
Hull # 99





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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

[Bailey White via CnC-List]

I tried something different on the floors.  After lightly sanding, I used 2
coats of Topcoat epoxy on the floors and then a floor polyurethane gloss
above that for hardness and UV protection.  I get lots of compliments as
the floors looks glossy and wet.  A coat of Topcoat is something like 60
coats of varnish, at least per Topcoat's advertisement on the packaging.

I've had the floors in place for a year now and no issues.

Topcoat is inexpensive for epoxy at $60 for a gallon at Home Depot and is
made for table tops and the like.  It made for a beautiful and thick clear
coat over the original flooring.  I need to do one thin coat over the
bottom of the boards now too.

My only lesson learned is to seal the floors before applying Topcoat.
Otherwise, you risk small bubbles.  Those drove me nuts and I ended up
sanding and re-applying to try to avoid.  I learned later that sealing the
wood first would have made the most difference.  I tried a torch to remove
bubbles and had only limited success.

Bailey White
1979 C&C 36
Atlanta, GA
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I used Minwax Helmsman satin.  Seems to be holding up fine.

 

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As did I.  

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As did I.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: CnC-List  on behalf of David Knecht via 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

I did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast 
Drying Polyurethane Satin.  So far, so good.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

[cid:4073BE72-4704-4EA7-8EBA-B73B833F502B]

On Jul 7, 2020, at 7:44 AM, ahycrace via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Sorry for bringing this up again I know it was discussed before but I can't  
find the old discussions. I have just about finished stripping the floor in 
Liberty using that non toxic orange stuff from home depot it worked pretty 
good. I want to coat it with something not to slippery that looks good, glossy 
or satin finish as long as its protective and looks good what should I use?

Gary Kolc
Liberty
1976 38' Mk II
Hull # 99


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[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I did mine last winter and used a standard floor polyurethane: Minwax Fast 
Drying Polyurethane Satin.  So far, so good.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jul 7, 2020, at 7:44 AM, ahycrace via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry for bringing this up again I know it was discussed before but I can't  
> find the old discussions. I have just about finished stripping the floor in 
> Liberty using that non toxic orange stuff from home depot it worked pretty 
> good. I want to coat it with something not to slippery that looks good, 
> glossy or satin finish as long as its protective and looks good what should I 
> use?
> 
> Gary Kolc
> Liberty
> 1976 38' Mk II
> Hull # 99
> 
> 
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[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I use McCloskey Gymseal. It comes in gloss and satin. It's a product of the
Valspar Corporation, located in Wheeling, IL. If you can't find a source,
call their product information hotline: 800-345-4530

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty

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> Sorry for bringing this up again I know it was discussed before but I
> can't  find the old discussions. I have just about finished stripping the
> floor in Liberty using that non toxic orange stuff from home depot it
> worked pretty good. I want to coat it with something not to slippery that
> looks good, glossy or satin finish as long as its protective and looks good
> what should I use?
>
> Gary Kolc
> Liberty
> 1976 38' Mk II
> Hull # 99
>
>
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Sorry for bringing this up again I know it was discussed before but I can't  
find the old discussions. I have just about finished stripping the floor in 
Liberty using that non toxic orange stuff from home depot it worked pretty 
good. I want to coat it with something not to slippery that looks good, glossy 
or satin finish as long as its protective and looks good what should I use?Gary 
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