Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
45 years ago, accidental jibe on my Star – Watched in slow motion as the top of the mast curled around and came down. Decided then and there, no more Running backs for this kid. Bill Coleman, Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Risch via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 5:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Risch Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII Yup. One of the reasons I did not go for the 41 were running backs.Big PIA. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 5:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII Stupid things running backs. Make hardly no good difference on a C 35 foot boat. Always getting in the way. Few C sailors know how to use them. Good luck On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote: Possibly C changed the mast section, and started using running backs. Hardest thing about using running backs is remembering to relax the leeward one and tensioning the windward one when tacking and gybing. Alan On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:31 AM David Swensen via CnC-List wrote: Alan, Mine is hull # 198 David ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!6HZvWA_NWxdzh64ACMB-appjKHNUfgj1viJAP-vJII290QpQ-bceKw91wTVZvlxar8E$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!6HZvWA_NWxdzh64ACMB-appjKHNUfgj1viJAP-vJII290QpQ-bceKw91wTVZvlxar8E$> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Sent from Gmail Mobile ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Yup. One of the reasons I did not go for the 41 were running backs.Big PIA. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 5:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII Stupid things running backs. Make hardly no good difference on a C 35 foot boat. Always getting in the way. Few C sailors know how to use them. Good luck On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Possibly C changed the mast section, and started using running backs. Hardest thing about using running backs is remembering to relax the leeward one and tensioning the windward one when tacking and gybing. Alan On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:31 AM David Swensen via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Alan, Mine is hull # 198 David ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!6HZvWA_NWxdzh64ACMB-appjKHNUfgj1viJAP-vJII290QpQ-bceKw91wTVZvlxar8E$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!6HZvWA_NWxdzh64ACMB-appjKHNUfgj1viJAP-vJII290QpQ-bceKw91wTVZvlxar8E$> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Sent from Gmail Mobile ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Stupid things running backs. Make hardly no good difference on a C 35 foot boat. Always getting in the way. Few C sailors know how to use them. Good luck On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Possibly C changed the mast section, and started using running backs. > Hardest thing about using running backs is remembering to relax the leeward > one and tensioning the windward one when tacking and gybing. > > Alan > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:31 AM David Swensen via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Alan, >> Mine is hull # 198 >> David >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!6HZvWA_NWxdzh64ACMB-appjKHNUfgj1viJAP-vJII290QpQ-bceKw91wTVZvlxar8E$ >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Possibly C changed the mast section, and started using running backs. Hardest thing about using running backs is remembering to relax the leeward one and tensioning the windward one when tacking and gybing. Alan On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:31 AM David Swensen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Alan, > Mine is hull # 198 > David > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!6HZvWA_NWxdzh64ACMB-appjKHNUfgj1viJAP-vJII290QpQ-bceKw91wTVZvlxar8E$ > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Alan, Mine is hull # 198 David ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Chuck and Graham, Thanks for your reply.I do have a inner headstay which attaches between the mast and the forward hatch. I defiinitely have the runners, which are made of rope. High tensile I hope. I read up on them last night. There is no blocking system set up on the boat for the runners. I have read where some people attach to the toe rail all the way back near the stearn. My boat has large padeyes on each side of the deck about mid cabin. I assume this is where the runners would attach. I will learn how to ajust these as I go. The Isomat mast is pretty bendy. From the look of it, I am not t sure I would feel good about climbing up there myself (230 lb.), which is a shame becaue my mastead light isn't working. I bought the boat with the mast stepped already. Hoping to wait til next fall to take it down. Surveyor thought the rod rigging looked good. Thanks. David On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 9:51 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER wrote: > Hi David, > My boat has both runners and checkstays but I have a bendy rig on a C > 34R. > Not sure my experience applies to your boat. > > Saildata shows the 35 MkIII without runners. > https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-35-3 > > Do you possibly have an inner headstay, (Solent) and the running backstays > are meant to support that? > > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md > > > On June 7, 2020 at 8:01 PM David Swensen via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I am ticking away at the list of to-dos in order to get Freya off of the > hard and in the water. Thoughts have gone to actually sailing her and not > just all the things that need to be done to a boat that was left on the > hard and forgotten for a few years. > In looking at the rigging today, I was reminded that Freya has a set of > running backstays. The previous owners raced her. I haven't sailed with > running backstays since our old family Narrasketuck on the Great South Bay. > Does anyone use these? If so, do you have a picture of how they are set up > on the deck? Can I safely sail without them? > Thanks for any input. > David Swensen > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
I, too, have a Labatt Challenge boat, and it didn't come with running backstays. I just replaced my mast with a mast from Selden. I had a choice of a smaller mast section with running backstays and a babystay, or a heavier mast section without running backs. Selden no longer makes the same mast section that came with my boat. They said I didn't need a babystay, but I had one installed anyway, to help with bending the mast in heavy air. What hull number is your boat? If it's between Graham's and mine, you probably don't need one, as we both probably have the same mast section. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty hull number 136 Rose City YC Portland, OR On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:02 PM David Swensen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am ticking away at the list of to-dos in order to get Freya off of the > hard and in the water. Thoughts have gone to actually sailing her and not > just all the things that need to be done to a boat that was left on the > hard and forgotten for a few years. > In looking at the rigging today, I was reminded that Freya has a set of > running backstays. The previous owners raced her. I haven't sailed with > running backstays since our old family Narrasketuck on the Great South Bay. > Does anyone use these? If so, do you have a picture of how they are set up > on the deck? Can I safely sail without them? > Thanks for any input. > David Swensen > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!_EMsSt6BmwjgzGMWyMWqSiB_Aekxncir5A39kY-XKn0FN3QroElIyAQ6LqexoFB6et0$ > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Hi David, My boat has both runners and checkstays but I have a bendy rig on a C 34R. Not sure my experience applies to your boat. Saildata shows the 35 MkIII without runners. https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-35-3 Do you possibly have an inner headstay, (Solent) and the running backstays are meant to support that? Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md > On June 7, 2020 at 8:01 PM David Swensen via CnC-List > wrote: > > I am ticking away at the list of to-dos in order to get Freya off of the > hard and in the water. Thoughts have gone to actually sailing her and not > just all the things that need to be done to a boat that was left on the hard > and forgotten for a few years. > In looking at the rigging today, I was reminded that Freya has a set of > running backstays. The previous owners raced her. I haven't sailed with > running backstays since our old family Narrasketuck on the Great South Bay. > Does anyone use these? If so, do you have a picture of how they are set up on > the deck? Can I safely sail without them? > Thanks for any input. > David Swensen > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
Hi David. We don't race much, just a yearly overnight race, we don't have running backs and have never felt the need. The boat doesn't look like it was ever set up for them, and it is one of the original "Labatt Canada Challenge" boats - so was raced hard. I'm interested if this was a unique mod to your boat, or is it common? Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 On 2020-06-07 9:01 p.m., David Swensen via CnC-List wrote: I am ticking away at the list of to-dos in order to get Freya off of the hard and in the water. Thoughts have gone to actually sailing her and not just all the things that need to be done to a boat that was left on the hard and forgotten for a few years. In looking at the rigging today, I was reminded that Freya has a set of running backstays. The previous owners raced her. I haven't sailed with running backstays since our old family Narrasketuck on the Great South Bay. Does anyone use these? If so, do you have a picture of how they are set up on the deck? Can I safely sail without them? Thanks for any input. David Swensen ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Running Backstays 35 MKIII
I am ticking away at the list of to-dos in order to get Freya off of the hard and in the water. Thoughts have gone to actually sailing her and not just all the things that need to be done to a boat that was left on the hard and forgotten for a few years. In looking at the rigging today, I was reminded that Freya has a set of running backstays. The previous owners raced her. I haven't sailed with running backstays since our old family Narrasketuck on the Great South Bay. Does anyone use these? If so, do you have a picture of how they are set up on the deck? Can I safely sail without them? Thanks for any input. David Swensen ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
