Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Dennis;

 

When I was getting Imzadi ready for offshore use, I also had issues with the 
OEM latches on the cockpit lockers. What I ended up using is, AFIR, called a 
toggle latch. The ones I used were by Wichard. And they were a bunch more 
expensive than these that are on EBay right now:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-Boat-Locker-Hatch-Anti-Rattle-Latch-Fastener-Marine-316-Stainless-Steel/252521374129?hash=item3acb7261b1:g:6fEAAOSw-kdXyD5G

 

I do like the fact that the toggle will not engage by accident, so I can just 
push the cover up and get it out of my way and there is no way I’ll get caught 
in the lazarette if the hatch closes above me. But once the toggle is engaged 
the latch doesn’t open unless you reach down and purposely move the toggle.

 

I can’t swear that the new latches matched the old hole pattern, but I don’t 
recall needing to drill any holes. YMMV.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 11:00 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

 

Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know the 
ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping me in 
the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line or a 
towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat alone.  
However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.

 

The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:

 

https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002

 

The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I 
haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers found 
hasps that fit?

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Bingo!

 

That’s it, I think, and much cheaper!

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 5:43 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

 

The generic name is "pin latch"  

 

https://www.amazon.com/Southco-MT-04-11-24-Pin-Latches/dp/B01A97XBN6

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 2:57 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I was curious so went on the Beneteau spare parts site and I could not find 
that part under that name or number.  Anyone else find it?  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

On Jan 8, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Regarding  the hatch latch issue, I too, was not happy with those drop hasps, 
and after seeing a J24 sink like a stone as a squall ran through a big charity 
regatta here several years ago,

(the cockpit hatch lid opened in a knockdown, and water sucked into the boat 
through the cockpit seat). I realized my boat could also sink that way in an 
extreme situation.

I looked at a bunch of boats, and also was impressed with the Beneteau  cockpit 
latches, and bought 4. I guess I really liked them, because I only needed one. 
It is a wonderful piece of hardware, I am looking at one now, the Beneteau Part 
number is 917520, called a Catch Spring Lock. You can put a little lanyard 
(Monkey ball) on the inside to open it  from the inside.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 1:33 PM
To: CnC-List
Cc: Lee Youngblood
Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

 

Hi Dennis,

 

I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please 
don’t kick me off this list guys!  They were simple pushbutton to open, spring 
loaded and automatically lock every time.  The pin from inside, can easily be 
opened if trapped inside.  One of the good thoughts I had seen on a b. 

 

2 cents, Lee 

 

 

On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:00 06AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

 

Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know the 
ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping me in 
the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line or a 
towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat alone.  
However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.

 

The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:

 

 <https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002> 
https://wwwhingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002

 

The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I 
haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers found 
hasps that fit?

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The generic name is "pin latch".

https://www.amazon.com/Southco-MT-04-11-24-Pin-Latches/dp/B01A97XBN6

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 2:57 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was curious so went on the Beneteau spare parts site and I could not
> find that part under that name or number.  Anyone else find it?  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding  the hatch latch issue, I too, was not happy with those drop
> hasps, and after seeing a J24 sink like a stone as a squall ran through a
> big charity regatta here several years ago,
> (the cockpit hatch lid opened in a knockdown, and water sucked into the
> boat through the cockpit seat). I realized my boat could also sink that way
> in an extreme situation.
> I looked at a bunch of boats, and also was impressed with the Beneteau
> cockpit latches, and bought 4. I guess I really liked them, because I only
> needed one. It is a wonderful piece of hardware, I am looking at one now,
> the Beneteau Part number is 917520, called a Catch Spring Lock. You can put
> a little lanyard (Monkey ball) on the inside to open it  from the inside.
>
> Bill Coleman
> C 39 Erie, PA
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Lee Youngblood via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 1:33 PM
> *To:* CnC-List
> *Cc:* Lee Youngblood
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please
> don’t kick me off this list guys!  They were simple pushbutton to open,
> spring loaded and automatically lock every time.  The pin from inside, can
> easily be opened if trapped inside.  One of the good thoughts I had seen on
> a b.
>
> 2 cents, Lee
>
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:00 06AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You
> know the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down
> trapping me in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a
> coil of line or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on
> the boat alone.  However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.
>
> The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:
>
> https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002
>
> The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because
> I haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers
> found hasps that fit?
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I also was curious and I couldn't find it either.

Ken H.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 16:57, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was curious so went on the Beneteau spare parts site and I could not
> find that part under that name or number.  Anyone else find it?  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding  the hatch latch issue, I too, was not happy with those drop
> hasps, and after seeing a J24 sink like a stone as a squall ran through a
> big charity regatta here several years ago,
> (the cockpit hatch lid opened in a knockdown, and water sucked into the
> boat through the cockpit seat). I realized my boat could also sink that way
> in an extreme situation.
> I looked at a bunch of boats, and also was impressed with the Beneteau
> cockpit latches, and bought 4. I guess I really liked them, because I only
> needed one. It is a wonderful piece of hardware, I am looking at one now,
> the Beneteau Part number is 917520, called a Catch Spring Lock. You can put
> a little lanyard (Monkey ball) on the inside to open it  from the inside.
>
> Bill Coleman
> C 39 Erie, PA
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Lee Youngblood via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 1:33 PM
> *To:* CnC-List
> *Cc:* Lee Youngblood
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please
> don’t kick me off this list guys!  They were simple pushbutton to open,
> spring loaded and automatically lock every time.  The pin from inside, can
> easily be opened if trapped inside.  One of the good thoughts I had seen on
> a b.
>
> 2 cents, Lee
>
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:00 06AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You
> know the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down
> trapping me in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a
> coil of line or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on
> the boat alone.  However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.
>
> The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:
>
> https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002
>
> The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because
> I haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers
> found hasps that fit?
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I was curious so went on the Beneteau spare parts site and I could not find 
that part under that name or number.  Anyone else find it?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jan 8, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Regarding  the hatch latch issue, I too, was not happy with those drop hasps, 
> and after seeing a J24 sink like a stone as a squall ran through a big 
> charity regatta here several years ago,
> (the cockpit hatch lid opened in a knockdown, and water sucked into the boat 
> through the cockpit seat). I realized my boat could also sink that way in an 
> extreme situation.
> I looked at a bunch of boats, and also was impressed with the Beneteau  
> cockpit latches, and bought 4. I guess I really liked them, because I only 
> needed one. It is a wonderful piece of hardware, I am looking at one now, the 
> Beneteau Part number is 917520, called a Catch Spring Lock. You can put a 
> little lanyard (Monkey ball) on the inside to open it  from the inside.
>  
> Bill Coleman
> C 39 Erie, PA
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Lee Youngblood via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 1:33 PM
> To: CnC-List
> Cc: Lee Youngblood
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches
>  
> Hi Dennis,
>  
> I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please 
> don’t kick me off this list guys!  They were simple pushbutton to open, 
> spring loaded and automatically lock every time.  The pin from inside, can 
> easily be opened if trapped inside.  One of the good thoughts I had seen on a 
> b. 
>  
> 2 cents, Lee 
>  
>  
>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:00 06AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know 
>> the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping 
>> me in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line 
>> or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat 
>> alone.  However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.
>>  
>> The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:
>>  
>> https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002 
>> <https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002>
>>  
>> The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I 
>> haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers 
>> found hasps that fit?
>>  
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Regarding  the hatch latch issue, I too, was not happy with those drop hasps, 
and after seeing a J24 sink like a stone as a squall ran through a big charity 
regatta here several years ago,

(the cockpit hatch lid opened in a knockdown, and water sucked into the boat 
through the cockpit seat). I realized my boat could also sink that way in an 
extreme situation.

I looked at a bunch of boats, and also was impressed with the Beneteau  cockpit 
latches, and bought 4. I guess I really liked them, because I only needed one. 
It is a wonderful piece of hardware, I am looking at one now, the Beneteau Part 
number is 917520, called a Catch Spring Lock. You can put a little lanyard 
(Monkey ball) on the inside to open it  from the inside.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lee 
Youngblood via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 1:33 PM
To: CnC-List
Cc: Lee Youngblood
Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

 

Hi Dennis,

 

I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please 
don’t kick me off this list guys!  They were simple pushbutton to open, spring 
loaded and automatically lock every time.  The pin from inside, can easily be 
opened if trapped inside.  One of the good thoughts I had seen on a b. 

 

2 cents, Lee 

 

 

On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:00 06AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know the 
ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping me in 
the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line or a 
towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat alone.  
However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.

 

The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:

 

https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002

 

The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I 
haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers found 
hasps that fit?

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

You can set up an account with Beneteau and buy spare parts if you know
what model boat you saw them on.
IIRC the Lewmar prices were good.
Joel.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 2:23 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Lee,
>
> usually, people are not kicked off the list. Instead, a simple
> keel-hauling is applied as an appropriate punishment...
>
> Marek
>
> *From:* Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2019 13:33
> *To:* CnC-List
> *Cc:* Lee Youngblood
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches
>
> I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please
> don’t kick me off this list guys!
>
> 2 cents, Lee
>
>
>
>
>
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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Lee,

usually, people are not kicked off the list. Instead, a simple keel-hauling is 
applied as an appropriate punishment...

Marek

From: Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 13:33
To: CnC-List
Cc: Lee Youngblood
Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please 
don’t kick me off this list guys!

2 cents, Lee




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[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis,

I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp!  Please 
don’t kick me off this list guys!  They were simple pushbutton to open, spring 
loaded and automatically lock every time.  The pin from inside, can easily be 
opened if trapped inside.  One of the good thoughts I had seen on a b. 

2 cents, Lee 


> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:00 06AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know 
> the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping 
> me in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line 
> or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat alone. 
>  However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.
> 
> The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:
> 
> https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002 
> 
> 
> The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I 
> haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers found 
> hasps that fit?
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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[Dan via CnC-List]

Still waiting on a response to Dennis' HASP situation... I'm looking for
some good hasps myself.

Any takers?

Dan
Breakaweigh
C
Halifax, NS
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[T Sutton via CnC-List]

FWIW I have an ‘86 33 Mk II and it has those springs on the cockpit locker, 
fridge and nav table and I’m not a big fan.  They are so sensitive to any sort 
of sideways touch that I couldn’t tell you how many times the lids have landed 
on my head while reaching in to get something. If I’m going into the cockpit 
locker to check anything I’ll usually use a bungee cord to ensure the lid stays 
open and I can get back out.

Tom S

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:02 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

I have these on both cockpit locker lids:

https://www.amazon.com/Moonlite-Marine-Medium-Hatch-Holder/dp/B008Y2H5TU


They are great for keeping the lid propped open.  The downside is you need to 
train your crew to pull on them to close the lid.  If a crew tries to force the 
lid closed without pulling the spring, it will distort the spring and you have 
to buy a new one.

Also have one on the navstation lid.

I have replaced the hinges with new ones and overbored and filled all the holes.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:45 AM Don Kern via CnC-List  
wrote:

  Dennis

  To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to the back 
side of the latch so it hangs down into the locker.  It is a straight section 
going to a loop.  The straight section's end has a small diameter copper pipe 
that has been crimped flat (using a vice in my workshop) then having holes 
drilled so matches the cover's latch holes.  The other end forms a loop by 
crimping.  That loop is just long enough to go over the main winch and keep the 
seat/cover open.

  My biggest problem has been with the three hinges in that they have 
cracked/broken.  It seems that the back edge of the seat/cover was not sealed 
and and the core compressed allowing shear across the face of the hinge.  All 
have been replaced which is a two man job, one inside with a nut driver trying 
to not loose the nuts/washers to the bilge god and the other topside doing the 
screwing.

  Don Kern
  Fireball 35-2, 12708
  Bristol, RI 








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Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I keep a few bungee cords on the lifelines at the cockpit (both sides of the 
boat) for whatever.  When I go down the hatch, I extend the closest one to the 
hatch lid to hold it open.  Simple solution that works for me.

From: Don Kern via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 11:44 AM
To: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Cc: Don Kern 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

Dennis

To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to the back side 
of the latch so it hangs down into the locker.  It is a straight section going 
to a loop.  The straight section's end has a small diameter copper pipe that 
has been crimped flat (using a vice in my workshop) then having holes drilled 
so matches the cover's latch holes.  The other end forms a loop by crimping.  
That loop is just long enough to go over the main winch and keep the seat/cover 
open.

My biggest problem has been with the three hinges in that they have 
cracked/broken.  It seems that the back edge of the seat/cover was not sealed 
and and the core compressed allowing shear across the face of the hinge.  All 
have been replaced which is a two man job, one inside with a nut driver trying 
to not loose the nuts/washers to the bilge god and the other topside doing the 
screwing.

Don Kern
Fireball 35-2, 12708
Bristol, RI 


On 1/4/2019 11:00 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

  Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know 
the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping me 
in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line or a 
towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat alone.  
However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC. 

  The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:

  https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002


  The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I 
haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers found 
hasps that fit?

  Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

   
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Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have these on both cockpit locker lids:

https://www.amazon.com/Moonlite-Marine-Medium-Hatch-Holder/dp/B008Y2H5TU

They are great for keeping the lid propped open.  The downside is you need
to train your crew to pull on them to close the lid.  If a crew tries to
force the lid closed without pulling the spring, it will distort the spring
and you have to buy a new one.

Also have one on the navstation lid.

I have replaced the hinges with new ones and overbored and filled all the
holes.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:45 AM Don Kern via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Dennis
>
> To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to the back
> side of the latch so it hangs down into the locker.  It is a straight
> section going to a loop.  The straight section's end has a small diameter
> copper pipe that has been crimped flat (using a vice in my workshop) then
> having holes drilled so matches the cover's latch holes.  The other end
> forms a loop by crimping.  That loop is just long enough to go over the
> main winch and keep the seat/cover open.
>
> My biggest problem has been with the three hinges in that they have
> cracked/broken.  It seems that the back edge of the seat/cover was not
> sealed and and the core compressed allowing shear across the face of the
> hinge.  All have been replaced which is a two man job, one inside with a
> nut driver trying to not loose the nuts/washers to the bilge god and the
> other topside doing the screwing.
> Don Kern
> Fireball 35-2, 12708
> Bristol, RI
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Dennis,

FWIW I was told by a surveyor that the hasps are OK but ABYC requires a
strut to hold the lid open.  I just used a shock cord around a winch.

Joel

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:45 AM Don Kern via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Dennis
>
> To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to the back
> side of the latch so it hangs down into the locker.  It is a straight
> section going to a loop.  The straight section's end has a small diameter
> copper pipe that has been crimped flat (using a vice in my workshop) then
> having holes drilled so matches the cover's latch holes.  The other end
> forms a loop by crimping.  That loop is just long enough to go over the
> main winch and keep the seat/cover open.
>
> My biggest problem has been with the three hinges in that they have
> cracked/broken.  It seems that the back edge of the seat/cover was not
> sealed and and the core compressed allowing shear across the face of the
> hinge.  All have been replaced which is a two man job, one inside with a
> nut driver trying to not loose the nuts/washers to the bilge god and the
> other topside doing the screwing.
> Don Kern
> Fireball 35-2, 12708
> Bristol, RI
>
>
> On 1/4/2019 11:00 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You
> know the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down
> trapping me in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a
> coil of line or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on
> the boat alone.  However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.
>
> The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:
>
> https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002
>
> The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because
> I haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers
> found hasps that fit?
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Dennis

To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to the 
back side of the latch so it hangs down into the locker.  It is a 
straight section going to a loop.  The straight section's end has a 
small diameter copper pipe that has been crimped flat (using a vice in 
my workshop) then having holes drilled so matches the cover's latch 
holes.  The other end forms a loop by crimping. That loop is just long 
enough to go over the main winch and keep the seat/cover open.


My biggest problem has been with the three hinges in that they have 
cracked/broken.  It seems that the back edge of the seat/cover was not 
sealed and and the core compressed allowing shear across the face of the 
hinge.  All have been replaced which is a two man job, one inside with a 
nut driver trying to not loose the nuts/washers to the bilge god and the 
other topside doing the screwing.


Don Kern
Fireball 35-2, 12708
Bristol, RI


On 1/4/2019 11:00 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You 
know the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is 
down trapping me in the locker. I actually don't mind them because I 
drape a coil of line or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the 
locker and on the boat alone.  However, these old hasps probably don't 
comply with ABYC.


The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:

https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002

The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is 
because I haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  
Any listers found hasps that fit?


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches.  You know
the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping
me in the locker.  I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of
line or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the boat
alone.  However, these old hasps probably don't comply with ABYC.

The solution is probably some swivel style hasps like these:

https://www.hingeoutlet.com/products/s3853-0002

The reason I haven't replaced them or flipped them 180 degrees is because I
haven't found any that match or hide the old bolt pattern.  Any listers
found hasps that fit?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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