Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

If we end up pulling the mast, I'll definitely measure it all, and inspect
everything up top (and I'm sure there will be more questions...) The
terminals and wire at the deck look good. I can't imagine them being
original, but the owner from 1985-2016 couldn't be certain if he'd done all
the shrouds; the fore and aft were probably done in 2003 when the refit
done and second furler was added.

Thanks

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Call riggingonly.com.  See what they will do for you.  With the rig down,
> you can measure everything and have them duplicate it.  You cn also ship it
> to them for duplication.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 10:00 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
>> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
>> boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
>> quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
>> and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
>> done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
>> etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
>> hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
>> interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
>> me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.
>>
>> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
>> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
>> growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
>> seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Rod fails catastrophically, 1x19 shows signs.  Rust stains are the
terminals a d broken strands.  Inspect... You'll probably be fine.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 5:47 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I forgot to mention the stays are 1/19 SS, not rod.
>
> For NDT testing, are you referring to dye penetrant or ultrasonic testing?
> Dye penetrant I could do myself I suppose; ultrasonic sounds expensive...
>
> As we're only coastal cruising for now, I'm inclined to leave the rigging
> unless I can be assured this fellow will do a good job. Since we need to
> replace the windex and mast lighting, it just seemed to make sense if the
> mast is coming out. But maybe it's best to leave it, and wait until we
> decide to go offshore, since we're not even certain we will do so in this
> boat. I'll have lots of other things to do during the haulout so no need to
> rush it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:57 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I had my entire mast rebuilt from the ground up.  ~$20k.  Plan on about
>> $1000 per rod stay.  You can do dyform for about $200 less and regular
>> 1x19 for about $200 less than dyform.
>>
>> I don't think Marlon is capable of being disassembled.  I lube mine with
>> the same grease that I use on the max prop once a year - 130AA.  They
>> recommend petroleum jelly.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 8:00 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
>>> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
>>> boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
>>> quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
>>> and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
>>> done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
>>> etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
>>> hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
>>> interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
>>> me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.
>>>
>>> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
>>> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
>>> growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
>>> seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shawn Wright
>>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 5:47 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I forgot to mention the stays are 1/19 SS, not rod.
>
> For NDT testing, are you referring to dye penetrant or ultrasonic testing?
> Dye penetrant I could do myself I suppose; ultrasonic sounds expensive...
>
> As we're only coastal cruising for now, I'm inclined to leave the rigging
> unless I can be assured this fellow will do a good job. Since we need to
> replace the windex and mast lighting, it just seemed to make sense if the
> mast is coming out. But maybe it's best to leave it, and wait until we
> decide to go offshore, since we're not even certain we will do so in this
> boat. I'll have lots of other things to do during the haulout so no need to
> rush it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:57 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I had my entire mast rebuilt from the ground up.  ~$20k.  Plan on about
>> $1000 per rod stay.  You can do dyform for about $200 less and regular
>> 1x19 for about $200 less than dyform.
>>
>> I don't think Marlon is capable of being disassembled.  I lube mine with
>> the same grease that I use on the max prop once a year - 130AA.  They
>> recommend petroleum jelly.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Mon, 

Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Call riggingonly.com.  See what they will do for you.  With the rig down,
you can measure everything and have them duplicate it.  You cn also ship it
to them for duplication.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 10:00 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
> boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
> quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
> and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
> done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
> etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
> hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
> interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
> me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.
>
> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
> growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
> seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I forgot to mention the stays are 1/19 SS, not rod.

For NDT testing, are you referring to dye penetrant or ultrasonic testing?
Dye penetrant I could do myself I suppose; ultrasonic sounds expensive...

As we're only coastal cruising for now, I'm inclined to leave the rigging
unless I can be assured this fellow will do a good job. Since we need to
replace the windex and mast lighting, it just seemed to make sense if the
mast is coming out. But maybe it's best to leave it, and wait until we
decide to go offshore, since we're not even certain we will do so in this
boat. I'll have lots of other things to do during the haulout so no need to
rush it.

Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:57 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had my entire mast rebuilt from the ground up.  ~$20k.  Plan on about
> $1000 per rod stay.  You can do dyform for about $200 less and regular
> 1x19 for about $200 less than dyform.
>
> I don't think Marlon is capable of being disassembled.  I lube mine with
> the same grease that I use on the max prop once a year - 130AA.  They
> recommend petroleum jelly.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 8:00 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
>> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
>> boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
>> quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
>> and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
>> done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
>> etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
>> hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
>> interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
>> me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.
>>
>> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
>> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
>> growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
>> seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> ___
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Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I had my entire mast rebuilt from the ground up.  ~$20k.  Plan on about
$1000 per rod stay.  You can do dyform for about $200 less and regular 1x19
for about $200 less than dyform.

I don't think Marlon is capable of being disassembled.  I lube mine with
the same grease that I use on the max prop once a year - 130AA.  They
recommend petroleum jelly.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 8:00 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
> boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
> quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
> and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
> done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
> etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
> hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
> interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
> me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.
>
> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
> growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
> seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

Shawn, I replaced my 30 yr old rigging last summer only because I plan on doing 
extended off shore cruising. Had I not been planning this I would not have done 
so, as the cost was that of a new car. I did have to replace 1 roller furler, 
goose neck, and did a couple of up grades. If your worried about the rigging 
have the swages NDT inspected. If no cracks I say keep using it. FWIW. Doug 
Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LF39Port Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/22/19  07:59  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Shawn Wright  Subject: 
Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2 Hello all,The 35-2 we are about 
to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age, although it appears to be 
solid. There is a fellow at the club where the boat is currently located who 
does rigging, and is going to give me a quote. As the boat is already being 
hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks, and the club has a mast crane, it seems 
like a good opportunity to get it done, and also any work on the mast, check 
the keel bolt under the mast, etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, 
single backstay with hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower 
shrouds. Just interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would 
compare to me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.Also, the 
boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in good condition, but 
some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to growth inside and lack of 
exercise (current owner leaves them open it seems). What is the recommended 
maintenance for these during a haulout?Thanks!-- Shawn 
wrightshawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Check Forespar's site for advice on lubricating Marelon seacocks.

You probably know not to do any maintenance work before getting approval from 
seller.

Last thought. My boat has Marelon seacocks and I leave them closed whenever I'm 
not on the boat. When I am aboard, I open only the ones in use; the sink drain, 
air conditioner intake, and engine intake and only if I use those. I close them 
before leaving the boat. It's good practice that not only protects the boat 
from a hose failure but also reminds me how to access all the valves. Over 
time, it becomes a habit that is easy to repeat.


> On April 22, 2019 at 10:59 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age, 
> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the boat 
> is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a quote. As 
> the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks, and the 
> club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it done, and 
> also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast, etc. The boat 
> has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with hydraulic tensioner, 
> and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just interested in what a 
> ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to me ordering the wire 
> are terminals and doing it myself.
> 
> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in 
> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to growth 
> inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it seems). What 
> is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --
> Shawn Wright
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Re: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Take the through hulls apart, and clean them up. I just did that with one
of mine. Some people use a lubricant on them - mineral oil, teflon
lubricant, but I don't.

On my boat, I'd be more confident using the original rigging, than making
new rigging myself. Since it's easy enough for you to take the mast down,
why not have a rigger inspect the rigging, and he can advise you whether to
replace the rigging or not.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 8:00 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
> although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
> boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
> quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
> and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
> done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
> etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
> hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
> interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
> me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.
>
> Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
> good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
> growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
> seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Hello all,

The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 weeks,
and the club has a mast crane, it seems like a good opportunity to get it
done, and also any work on the mast, check the keel bolt under the mast,
etc. The boat has dual forestays with furlers, single backstay with
hydraulic tensioner, and standard upper, fore & aft lower shrouds. Just
interested in what a ballpark cost should be, and how this would compare to
me ordering the wire are terminals and doing it myself.

Also, the boat has 7 through hulls, all marelon which appear to be in
good condition, but some are a bit stiff. I'm assuming this is due to
growth inside and lack of exercise (current owner leaves them open it
seems). What is the recommended maintenance for these during a haulout?

Thanks!

-- 
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
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