Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yeah that is a very good price!

The "better soft shackle" has 2 "improvements".  First, the shackle eye is
limited in amount of eye size which can be expanded.  This can help further
secure the diamond knot from flogging loose.  When you make them yourself
you can tweak this parameter.  Second, the tails of the diamond knot are
tapered into the shackle.  You don't need to melt seal the ends.  This is
less significant but it does present a very neat and orderly appearance
that makes you ask, "How did you make that?  Where is the end."

Josh

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 12:37 PM Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> This video is what I use to make soft shackles:
>
> http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_howto.php
>
> Get some Dyneema, make one, and give it a try.  Alternatively, order from
> ebay:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-5-16-Soft-Shackles-ATV-Winch-Shackle-Synthetic-Rope-Shackle/132776705341?hash=item1eea1bbd3d:g:pSMAAOSw~BRcApxk:rk:4:pf:0
>
> I don't recall if this is the one I ordered, but the soft shackle I got on
> ebay as an experiment was fine -- dyneema and well made.  Just had to
> tighten up the knot some.  Price is right.
>
> To speed up the opening of the shackle, you can add a small pull cord.
>
> Jeff Laman
> 1981 C&C34 "Harmony"
> Ludington, MI
>
> --
> *From:* Morgan Ellis 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:47 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List soft shackles
>
> Hi Josh, Thanks for the feedback, and great video! I believe my friend had
> used the conventional Y-style soft shackle design made from Dyneema. I like
> the look of your's much better (see a better soft shackle,
> http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php) as there is no need to try to milk
> the cover back to open the shackle, and leaving some short tails on, to
> have something to grab would help as well. Another thing I picked up from
> your video is that even though very small diameter Dyneema would be strong
> enough, by using a bit larger size the shackle would be easier to work
> with, especially with gloves on.
> (BTW nice spring line set up!)
>
> Regards,
>
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Stus-List soft shackles

[Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List]

This video is what I use to make soft shackles:

http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_howto.php

Get some Dyneema, make one, and give it a try.  Alternatively, order from ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-5-16-Soft-Shackles-ATV-Winch-Shackle-Synthetic-Rope-Shackle/132776705341?hash=item1eea1bbd3d:g:pSMAAOSw~BRcApxk:rk:4:pf:0

I don't recall if this is the one I ordered, but the soft shackle I got on ebay 
as an experiment was fine -- dyneema and well made.  Just had to tighten up the 
knot some.  Price is right.

To speed up the opening of the shackle, you can add a small pull cord.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 "Harmony"
Ludington, MI


From: Morgan Ellis 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List soft shackles

Hi Josh, Thanks for the feedback, and great video! I believe my friend had used 
the conventional Y-style soft shackle design made from Dyneema. I like the look 
of your's much better (see a better soft shackle, 
http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php) as there is no need to try to milk the 
cover back to open the shackle, and leaving some short tails on, to have 
something to grab would help as well. Another thing I picked up from your video 
is that even though very small diameter Dyneema would be strong enough, by 
using a bit larger size the shackle would be easier to work with, especially 
with gloves on.
(BTW nice spring line set up!)

Regards,

Morgan
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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

Hi Josh, Thanks for the feedback, and great video! I believe my friend had
used the conventional Y-style soft shackle design made from Dyneema. I like
the look of your's much better (see a better soft shackle,
http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php) as there is no need to try to milk the
cover back to open the shackle, and leaving some short tails on, to have
something to grab would help as well. Another thing I picked up from your
video is that even though very small diameter Dyneema would be strong
enough, by using a bit larger size the shackle would be easier to work
with, especially with gloves on.
(BTW nice spring line set up!)

Regards,

Morgan
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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

In the video below I use a soft shackle to attach the spring line to the
toe rail.  I drop the line and it is not uncommon for the line to be wet
from rain or from being dropped in the water.  Never have any difficulties
operating the shackle and can always make/unmake the connection in less
than 10 seconds.  In this case the soft shackle has the added advantage of
not damaging the rub rail and fiberglass in the event of contact.

https://youtu.be/DSAMR27tnFI

Josh

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 9:08 AM Morgan Ellis via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> I know there was a great discussion on soft shackles last year, it had
> inspired me to make some and try them out. But then I was talking to a
> friend who had tried them on his express 27 and changed my mind. His
> problem was that when they got wet and loaded up, they were difficult to
> open. Has anyone else had this experience, or could it be just style of
> soft shackle he used?
>
> Regards,
>
> Morgan
> S/V Meandher
> 30-2
> Thunder Bay, ON
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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Amsteel is extremely slippery AND hydrophobic.  I think that your friend
was referring to something that was not a soft shackle or one that was not
properly made with the appropriate materials.

I make my own.  I can't justify the x4 or x5 price tag associated with
pre-made shackles.  I can usually make mine of repurposed (used), or scrap
Amsteel.  If I have to buy then it is usually less than $1/ft and I use ~3
ft.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 9:08 AM Morgan Ellis via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> I know there was a great discussion on soft shackles last year, it had
> inspired me to make some and try them out. But then I was talking to a
> friend who had tried them on his express 27 and changed my mind. His
> problem was that when they got wet and loaded up, they were difficult to
> open. Has anyone else had this experience, or could it be just style of
> soft shackle he used?
>
> Regards,
>
> Morgan
> S/V Meandher
> 30-2
> Thunder Bay, ON
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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

>
> I know there was a great discussion on soft shackles last year, it had
inspired me to make some and try them out. But then I was talking to a
friend who had tried them on his express 27 and changed my mind. His
problem was that when they got wet and loaded up, they were difficult to
open. Has anyone else had this experience, or could it be just style of
soft shackle he used?

Regards,

Morgan
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30-2
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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

merci beaucoup!

Wade
Oh Boy C&C 33 MK II

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 3:23 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> https://stingysailor.com/2015/06/27/diy-soft-shackles-for-quick-and-easy-headsail-changes-2/
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 12:29 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> some time ago there were some comments on the use of soft shackles to
>> join genoa sheets to the genoa clew.  This idea sounds really interesting
>> to me but having browsed Amazon, I realize I don't know what working
>> strength of soft shackle I need to buy.  My  C&C is a 33 MK II with I
>> dimension of 44.5 ft (13.56 m) and J dimension of 13.9 ft (3.99 m).  I
>> have  a 135 furling genoa.  Would anyone please help me to choose the
>> proper strength shackle?
>>
>> Wade
>> Oh Boy, 33 MK II
>> Lake of the Woods
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[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

https://stingysailor.com/2015/06/27/diy-soft-shackles-for-quick-and-easy-headsail-changes-2/

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 12:29 AM Wade Glew via CnC-List  Hi Listers,
>
> some time ago there were some comments on the use of soft shackles to join
> genoa sheets to the genoa clew.  This idea sounds really interesting to me
> but having browsed Amazon, I realize I don't know what working strength of
> soft shackle I need to buy.  My  C&C is a 33 MK II with I dimension of 44.5
> ft (13.56 m) and J dimension of 13.9 ft (3.99 m).  I have  a 135 furling
> genoa.  Would anyone please help me to choose the proper strength shackle?
>
> Wade
> Oh Boy, 33 MK II
> Lake of the Woods
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[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,

some time ago there were some comments on the use of soft shackles to join
genoa sheets to the genoa clew.  This idea sounds really interesting to me
but having browsed Amazon, I realize I don't know what working strength of
soft shackle I need to buy.  My  C&C is a 33 MK II with I dimension of 44.5
ft (13.56 m) and J dimension of 13.9 ft (3.99 m).  I have  a 135 furling
genoa.  Would anyone please help me to choose the proper strength shackle?

Wade
Oh Boy, 33 MK II
Lake of the Woods
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Stus-List Soft shackles in action

[Thomas Delaney via CnC-List]

Sorry John, it never occurred to me to take good photos of the soft
shackles in action. I have a photo that shows them on a delivery jib in
May, but none with the racing sails.

I ended up using the same two shackles for all of my headsails across the
wind range - had no problems with them in 20+ kts on a #3 or <5 kts on the
light #1.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/x4UBmqaQN6WxSC3g9

Best,
Tom

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From: John Conklin 
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Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:25:20 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

So with the soft Shackle ( which I use for tying off to the mid toerail
 and works amazing even in Florence! ) what size line ? (Dyneema?) Is best
for the  head sail on  a 37,  and are you using a splice on the sheet? If
tying a knot for soft shackle why Knot just tie sheet to clew  ? Any one
have any pics of the softees in action on the genny  sheets?



Thanks !



John  C

S/V Halcyon

Oriental NC
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Re: Stus-List Soft shackles for asym

[Shane Vanstrom via CnC-List]

I have used that type of block for a tack line and they work great. I would 
suggest ratchet blocks for the asym sheets though. Ratchet blocks will hold 
part of the load making it a bit safer when taking the line off the winch in a 
gybe or when trimming and easing. I use harken blocks with dyneema loops on my 
29-2 and they work great.

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On 1/30/18, 12:01 PM, "CnC-List on behalf of steve dewar via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

I’m looking at using the Antal HK12 Hook soft shackle for the sheet and guy 
blocks on my asym chute. This is on a 35 mkiii.  Has anyone used this type of 
block for that application and any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks
Steve
https://ca.binnacle.com/index.php?cPath=28_425_618


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I’m looking at using the Antal HK12 Hook soft shackle for the sheet and guy 
blocks on my asym chute. This is on a 35 mkiii.  Has anyone used this type of 
block for that application and any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks
Steve
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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Ron Casciato]

Jimmy:  do you have a web site for nonots?  Can't Google them with any
useful results. thanks, Ron C.

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy
Kelly
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 6:38 PM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List soft shackles

 

they work great   also european product called  NO KNOTS  or nonots
work even better are plastic sun resistantline goes thru fitting  then
sail fitting  &then a tuckgreat for easy &quick tie &untie of sails when
racing  secure  ..no shroud hangups  ...been using same pair for more than
10 years  no problems at all  ..probably best to look for in your favorite
european chandlery...we use soft shackles on nylon sails also work well

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Stus-List soft shackles

[Jimmy Kelly]

they work great   also european product called  NO KNOTS  or nonots
 work even better are plastic sun resistantline goes thru fitting  then
 sail fitting  &then a tuckgreat for easy &quick tie &untie of sails
when racing  secure  ..no shroud hangups  ...been using same pair for more
than 10 years  no problems at all  ..probably best to look for in your
favorite european chandlery...we use soft shackles on nylon sails also work
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Re: Stus-List Soft shackles again

[Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR]

Sorry for the slow reply.

We have a second set of sheets for the other jib.  Usually we use the
soft shackle on the big 155%, and just tie bowlines in my 100%.  The
100% is short enough that we've never had an issue with them snagging on
the shrounds. 

-Keith


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From: Dennis C. [mailto:capt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 16:23
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Soft shackles again

Keith,

You mentioned using a soft shackle for each sheet but from your post I'm
assuming you have not tried it.

I'd be interested if anyone has because I can't figure out how you would
do a sail change upwind with a single soft shackle through both sheets
unless one uses a changing sheet.


Dennis





From: "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR"

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:55 AM
    Subject: Re: Stus-List soft shackles


We stress ours plenty every week.

I use 1 soft shackle to attach both jib sheets to the jib.  I
spliced an
eye in each jib sheet, and then the soft shackle goes thru all
three:
port sheet, stbd sheet, clew ring.

I switched to this after getting tired of the bowlines snagging
the
shrouds with each tack.

I could use a soft shackle for each jib sheet, but then I think
I'd go
back to having problems with the clew of the sail snagging the
shrouds.
With a single softie, the clew is "shielded" from the shroud.

YMMV.

-Keith M
Beyond the Sea
C&C 35-3 CB




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[Dennis C.]

Keith,
You mentioned using a soft shackle for each sheet but from your post I'm 
assuming you have not tried it.

I'd be interested if anyone has because I can't figure out how you would do a 
sail change upwind with a single soft shackle through both sheets unless one 
uses a changing sheet.


Dennis




>
> From: "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR" 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:55 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List soft shackles
> 
>We stress ours plenty every week.
>
>I use 1 soft shackle to attach both jib sheets to the jib.  I spliced an
>eye in each jib sheet, and then the soft shackle goes thru all three:
>port sheet, stbd sheet, clew ring.
>
>I switched to this after getting tired of the bowlines snagging the
>shrouds with each tack.
>
>I could use a soft shackle for each jib sheet, but then I think I'd go
>back to having problems with the clew of the sail snagging the shrouds.
>With a single softie, the clew is "shielded" from the shroud.
>
>YMMV.
>
>-Keith M
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Re: Stus-List SOFT SHACKLES, DIP POLE GYBE

[Joel Aronson]

I'm sure you don't miss them!  I'm still learning how to gybe an
asymmetrical but its much easier than dealing with a 15 long pole!

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Alex Giannelia  wrote:

> Haven`t done one in over 5 years, you`re right.
>
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>
>
> Alex
> Why would the shackles matter?  Wouldnt The process would be the same?
>
> Joel Aronson
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Giannelia  wrote:
>
> > So now that I am getting a bit more up to speed on the concept of the
> soft shackes. How do they work on a dip pole gybe?
> >
> > ALEX GIANNELIA
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[Alex Giannelia]

Haven`t done one in over 5 years, you`re right.  

ALEX GIANNELIA

Phone (416) 203-9858
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Cell   (416) 529-0070

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Alex
Why would the shackles matter?  Wouldnt The process would be the same?

Joel Aronson


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> So now that I am getting a bit more up to speed on the concept of the soft 
> shackes. How do they work on a dip pole gybe?
>
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Re: Stus-List SOFT SHACKLES SPINNAKER

[Joel Aronson]

Alex
Why would the shackles matter?  Wouldnt The process would be the same?

Joel Aronson


On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Giannelia  wrote:

> So now that I am getting a bit more up to speed on the concept of the soft 
> shackes. How do they work on a dip pole gybe?
>
> ALEX GIANNELIA
>
> Phone (416) 203-9858
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[Alex Giannelia]

So now that I am getting a bit more up to speed on the concept of the soft 
shackes. How do they work on a dip pole gybe?

ALEX GIANNELIA

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Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR]

We stress ours plenty every week.

I use 1 soft shackle to attach both jib sheets to the jib.  I spliced an
eye in each jib sheet, and then the soft shackle goes thru all three:
port sheet, stbd sheet, clew ring.

I switched to this after getting tired of the bowlines snagging the
shrouds with each tack.

I could use a soft shackle for each jib sheet, but then I think I'd go
back to having problems with the clew of the sail snagging the shrouds.
With a single softie, the clew is "shielded" from the shroud.

YMMV.

-Keith M
Beyond the Sea
C&C 35-3 CB


-Original Message-
From: Graham Collins [mailto:gcoll...@hfx.eastlink.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 16:34
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List soft shackles

There is an excellent video by Colligo Marine showing how to make one at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH66tGsWv_Y

I've made a couple, they are really easy to make - the only difficult 
part is tying the knot.  I haven't really stressed them yet, the pair 
I've got in use are holding pulleys at the mast for the spin car up/down

haul - haven't really loaded them.

regards,
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-3


Alex Giannelia wrote:
> OK guys, I am exiting the stone age here and reading about "soft
shackles" as I am closing in being able to actually launch.
>
> Are these attached to the ends of the sheets? So no Ronstan or other
Wichard hard stainless bits any more?
>
> I looked on line and got part of the picture, but not all of it to
envision how this all hangs together, so can someone send me a link?
>
> ALEX GIANNELIA
>
> Phone (416) 203-9858
> Fax   (416) 203-9843
> Cell   (416) 529-0070
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:13:26 + (UTC)
> From: Chuck S
> To: "Dennis C.", cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets
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>
> Dennis,
> Your setup sounds smart and simple. Do the sheets include a plastic
doughnut near the shackle to keep it from getting pulled thru the pole
jaws?
> Twings to pull the guy to the widest beam, maybe?
>
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis C."
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:36:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets
>
>
>
> Joel,
>
>
> I ordered the spin sheets from Layline.com. They have a machine that
does it. You'll need fairly accurate measurement so the sheet wraps on
the winch in the correct spot.
>
>
>
> I really like the sheets. The 1/4 inch Dyneema is very strong and
light. The StaSet is easy on the hands.
>
>
>
> We do end for end gybes so the sheets are also the guys.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Joel Aronson
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets
>
>
> I also used the tylaska shackles ( or something close) on the original
spin sheets and jib sheets. I didn't realize the cost. I'll take better
care of them now!
>
>
> Dennis, can you enlighten me how you stuff the dyneema into the
sta-set?
>
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> The Office
> Annapolis
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ian Matthew<
ian.matthew@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> 
> I use tylaska snap shackles -
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?produ
ctId=45109&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeN

Re: Stus-List soft shackles

[Graham Collins]

There is an excellent video by Colligo Marine showing how to make one at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH66tGsWv_Y


I've made a couple, they are really easy to make - the only difficult 
part is tying the knot.  I haven't really stressed them yet, the pair 
I've got in use are holding pulleys at the mast for the spin car up/down 
haul - haven't really loaded them.


regards,
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-3


Alex Giannelia wrote:

OK guys, I am exiting the stone age here and reading about "soft shackles" as I 
am closing in being able to actually launch.

Are these attached to the ends of the sheets? So no Ronstan or other Wichard 
hard stainless bits any more?

I looked on line and got part of the picture, but not all of it to envision how 
this all hangs together, so can someone send me a link?

ALEX GIANNELIA

Phone (416) 203-9858
Fax   (416) 203-9843
Cell   (416) 529-0070

email: a...@airsensing.com
WEB: www.airsensing.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:13:26 + (UTC)
From: Chuck S
To: "Dennis C.", cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets
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Dennis,
Your setup sounds smart and simple. Do the sheets include a plastic doughnut 
near the shackle to keep it from getting pulled thru the pole jaws?
Twings to pull the guy to the widest beam, maybe?


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis C."
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:36:07 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets



Joel,


I ordered the spin sheets from Layline.com. They have a machine that does it. 
You'll need fairly accurate measurement so the sheet wraps on the winch in the 
correct spot.



I really like the sheets. The 1/4 inch Dyneema is very strong and light. The 
StaSet is easy on the hands.



We do end for end gybes so the sheets are also the guys.



Dennis C.







From: Joel Aronson
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets


I also used the tylaska shackles ( or something close) on the original spin 
sheets and jib sheets. I didn't realize the cost. I'll take better care of them 
now!


Dennis, can you enlighten me how you stuff the dyneema into the sta-set?


Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis


On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ian Matthew<  ian.matthew@gmail.com>  
wrote:


I use tylaska snap shackles - 
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=45109&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50045&subdeptNum=50046&classNum=50047#.T_5bj2t5mSM
I have lost too many ronstan snap shackles when things have got wild and the 
sheet shook free of the spinnaker


Ian Matthew
"Siento el Viento". C&C 29-1
San Francisco Bay



On Wednesday, July 11, 2012, Tim Goodyear wrote:




Snap shackles, ultra-tech, stripped for first 10'.


Tim
Mojito
35-3

On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:45 PM, "Dennis C."<  capt...@yahoo.com>  wrote:






Two part sheets, Dyneema stuffed into a tail of StaSet, long eye (luggage tag 
eye) with snap shackle.


Dennis C.
Touch? 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Chuck S<  cscheaf...@comcast.net>  wrote:






Hey guys,
Making up new spinnaker sheets.
Are you guys using snapschackles, Tylaska trigger release, or dyneema loops?


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ





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Stus-List soft shackles

[Alex Giannelia]

OK guys, I am exiting the stone age here and reading about "soft shackles" as I 
am closing in being able to actually launch.

Are these attached to the ends of the sheets? So no Ronstan or other Wichard 
hard stainless bits any more?

I looked on line and got part of the picture, but not all of it to envision how 
this all hangs together, so can someone send me a link?

ALEX GIANNELIA

Phone (416) 203-9858
Fax   (416) 203-9843
Cell   (416) 529-0070

email: a...@airsensing.com
WEB: www.airsensing.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:13:26 + (UTC)
From: Chuck S 
To: "Dennis C." , cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets
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Dennis, 
Your setup sounds smart and simple. Do the sheets include a plastic doughnut 
near the shackle to keep it from getting pulled thru the pole jaws? 
Twings to pull the guy to the widest beam, maybe? 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis C."  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:36:07 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets 



Joel, 


I ordered the spin sheets from Layline.com. They have a machine that does it. 
You'll need fairly accurate measurement so the sheet wraps on the winch in the 
correct spot. 



I really like the sheets. The 1/4 inch Dyneema is very strong and light. The 
StaSet is easy on the hands. 



We do end for end gybes so the sheets are also the guys. 



Dennis C. 







From: Joel Aronson  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:11 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List spinnaker sheets 


I also used the tylaska shackles ( or something close) on the original spin 
sheets and jib sheets. I didn't realize the cost. I'll take better care of them 
now! 


Dennis, can you enlighten me how you stuff the dyneema into the sta-set? 


Joel 
35/3 
The Office 
Annapolis 


On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ian Matthew < ian.matthew@gmail.com > 
wrote: 


I use tylaska snap shackles - 
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=45109&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50045&subdeptNum=50046&classNum=50047#.T_5bj2t5mSM
 
I have lost too many ronstan snap shackles when things have got wild and the 
sheet shook free of the spinnaker 


Ian Matthew 
"Siento el Viento". C&C 29-1 
San Francisco Bay 



On Wednesday, July 11, 2012, Tim Goodyear wrote: 




Snap shackles, ultra-tech, stripped for first 10'. 


Tim 
Mojito 
35-3 

On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:45 PM, "Dennis C." < capt...@yahoo.com > wrote: 






Two part sheets, Dyneema stuffed into a tail of StaSet, long eye (luggage tag 
eye) with snap shackle. 


Dennis C. 
Touch? 35-1 #83 
Mandeville, LA 

Sent from my iPhone 

On Jul 11, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Chuck S < cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote: 






Hey guys, 
Making up new spinnaker sheets. 
Are you guys using snapschackles, Tylaska trigger release, or dyneema loops? 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 





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