Re: Stus-List Air conditioner placement

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Mine is set up like Josh's with no mirror over the engine, but one to the port 
side of the aft cabin engine area.  However, the mirrors in the head are 
definitely glass, as one is cracked in one corner.
In Tampa I find the A/C keeps up, but runs a lot to keep the interior 
comfortable.
Bruce Whitmore 1994 C 37/40+


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 Original message From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/20/18  3:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: C List 
 Cc: Josh Muckley  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Air conditioner placement 
Mine is under the stairs.  I have no mirror.  16000btu doesn't cool well... But 
I don't know exactly why.
Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD 
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 3:34 PM Chuck Saur via CnC-List  
wrote:
Ok all you 37+ guys...the mirror discussion sparked a thought:  I have air 
conditioner installation located in aft cabin hanging locker, and would like to 
move it to have the storage.  The space under the companionway is open.  I'm 
thinking I could install AC unit in the space below companionway steps.  This 
would allow a forward-facing air duct, and if the mirror were shortened in the 
aft cabin, an aft-facing duct just over the engine compartment.  
In Michigan's UP, this might just be enough to keep cool on BOTH of those warm 
days. Anyone with some creative experience and/or ideas?

Chuck Saur
(517)-490-5926
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Rick brass and I (jim Schwartz) are leaving Washington now. See you FridayJim 
Schwartz 38 lf


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 Cc: "Dennis C."  Subject: Stus-List 
2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend! 
The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are 
attending.
The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot luck 
on the docks Friday night.
The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C owners.  
We'll be there Saturday afternoon.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List diesel engine staring procedure

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Chris,

As a general rule, diesels like to be worked. Keeping them at idle or low-RPM 
speeds is not good for them in the long run. I usually only keep the throttle 
down when shifting in and out of neutral or if I need to go slow in a channel, 
coming into a dock. or picking up a mooring. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
wrote:

I have a quick question about the specifics of starting a Yanmar SB8 single 
cylinder engine. The previous owner also disconnected the kill switch and 
turned off the engine with the key so i want to reattach the cable this spring.

Is there a specific amount of throttle to set it at prior to turning it over? I 
think I remember by old Volvo-Penta had to be positioned at 3/4 open and then 
immediately dropped down to idle once the engine turned over. 

anything special I need to know? No real information out there and the old 
service manuals are pretty much impossible to locate at this point.

Thanks for your suggestions
Chris
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Nope...its always sunny in Annapolis Jim Schwartz 


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Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend! 
Bring your foulies; it looks like rain on Saturday.  See you there!
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:
The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are 
attending.
The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot luck 
on the docks Friday night.
The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C owners.  
We'll be there Saturday afternoon.
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[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

I have a quick question about the specifics of starting a Yanmar SB8 single 
cylinder engine. The previous owner also disconnected the kill switch and 
turned off the engine with the key so i want to reattach the cable this spring.
Is there a specific amount of throttle to set it at prior to turning it over? I 
think I remember by old Volvo-Penta had to be positioned at 3/4 open and then 
immediately dropped down to idle once the engine turned over. 
anything special I need to know? No real information out there and the old 
service manuals are pretty much impossible to locate at this point.
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Re: Stus-List PYI shaft seal

[schiller via CnC-List]

All,

I spent the last 15 years of my career in the aircraft hydraulic pump 
business.  We used the PYI type face seals for all of our pumps, 
electric motor pumps and hydraulic motor driven generators.  Many of the 
older units used the carbon graphite nose pieces.  The newer units use 
Tungsten Carbide nose pieces.  These seals have a life of about 30,000 
hours (the carbon graphite have a life of about 10,000 hours) running at 
speeds of 2,000 to 12,000 rpm at 35,000 foot altitude.  At these speeds 
we try to control leakage to 5 drops per hour in hydraulic oils.  Our 
boat environments are a little easier.  That being said, what the carbon 
graphite nose pieces hate is shock and misalignment.  We controlled 
flatness on the pieces to .70 inches (6 helium light bands).


Our last boat (C 35-1) had an old style (no vent tube) for 16 years 
with no problems.  Burped it on launch and it worked great.  Just put a 
PYI Packless Shaft Seal in our new boat (C 35-3).


We have a lot of places on the boat that can allow the water outside to 
come in.  This is just one other.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 10/22/2018 9:50 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:

I have had 0 problems with mine since about 1987. The hose and seal were 
swapped out in 2014 I think while the shaft was out as preventative 
maintenance. That apparently should have been done in 1994! Anyway, modern 
Teflon packing has made the conventional stuffing box pretty easy to deal with.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
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Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are
attending.

The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot
luck on the docks Friday night.

The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C
owners.  We'll be there Saturday afternoon.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bring your foulies; it looks like rain on Saturday.  See you there!

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are 
> attending.
> 
> The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot 
> luck on the docks Friday night.
> 
> The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C 
> owners.  We'll be there Saturday afternoon.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

We're still planning to arrive Thursday afternoon.  Friday is looking
great, we'll be entering all day.  Saturday weather is looking kinda snotty
so Carmel and I will be available and willing to entertain inside all day.
Sunday should be better and Monday is shaping up to be a decent departure.

Follow and post videos and pictures to the Facebook page.  Feel free to
message us there as well.

https://www.facebook.com/2018MACCR/

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 11:10 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are
> attending.
>
> The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot
> luck on the docks Friday night.
>
> The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C
> owners.  We'll be there Saturday afternoon.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Stu via CnC-List]

There should be plenty of room for everyone inside Josh’s boat to host inside.
Josh just remember the 10-4-2 rule when hosting.  You can seat 10 for 
cocktails, 4 for dinner but it only sleeps 2.

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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

There should be plenty of room for everyone inside Josh’s boat to host inside.

See: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjkzr5aw5uu4r61/IMG_2349.JPG?dl=0 
 

All the best,

Edd


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Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:

We're still planning to arrive Thursday afternoon.  Friday is looking great, 
we'll be entering all day.  Saturday weather is looking kinda snotty so Carmel 
and I will be available and willing to entertain inside all day.  Sunday should 
be better and Monday is shaping up to be a decent departure.

Follow and post videos and pictures to the Facebook page.  Feel free to message 
us there as well.

https://www.facebook.com/2018MACCR/ 

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 11:10 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are 
attending.

The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot luck 
on the docks Friday night.

The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C owners.  
We'll be there Saturday afternoon.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List PYI shaft seal

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have had 0 problems with mine since about 1987. The hose and seal were 
swapped out in 2014 I think while the shaft was out as preventative 
maintenance. That apparently should have been done in 1994! Anyway, modern 
Teflon packing has made the conventional stuffing box pretty easy to deal with.
Joe 
Coquina
C 35 MK I 
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Re: Stus-List Water heater weirdness

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Jim:

Running the hot water for 10 or 15 minutes should get rid of any air bubble in 
the water system but I don't think this is the problem.

There should be a check valve in the high-pressure water line to separate the 
cold water supply from the hot water from the tank--check the functioning of 
this check valve.  (Refer to Raritan water heater installation instructions for 
more info on this check valve.)

Another thing you might want to check is the accumulator tank.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
Annapolis, MD 

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm baffled. Maybe someone here can figure this out. 
> A few weeks ago, I replaced the leaking overpressure/overtemperature valve on 
> our old Raritan water heater, and ever since, the pressure water pump acts 
> very oddly. It starts out sounding normal, then as the pressure builds it is 
> obviously working harder and slower, until finally it stops. When I open the 
> hot water tap, the water runs for quite a while before the pump kicks in, 
> whereas it used to come on almost instantaneously. In addition, when I open 
> the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is providing very hot water for 
> the first 10-15 seconds.
> Yesterday I tried running the system dry then refilling the tank but it 
> didn't seem to help. My best guess is that there is an air bubble in the tank 
> somehow and the pump is compressing the air, so it takes longer to reach 
> pressure and then the pressure bleeds off while the tap is open.
> Any bright ideas on how I might fix this? 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Water heater weirdness

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

Mine behaves similarly.  You should be able to bleed the tank from that new 
valve. I will give it a shot as well.

I would guess you have a supply line laying on the hot water hose from the heat 
exchanger.  

Rick Rohwer
Paikea 37+
Tacoma, WA
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm baffled. Maybe someone here can figure this out. 
> A few weeks ago, I replaced the leaking overpressure/overtemperature valve on 
> our old Raritan water heater, and ever since, the pressure water pump acts 
> very oddly. It starts out sounding normal, then as the pressure builds it is 
> obviously working harder and slower, until finally it stops. When I open the 
> hot water tap, the water runs for quite a while before the pump kicks in, 
> whereas it used to come on almost instantaneously. In addition, when I open 
> the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is providing very hot water for 
> the first 10-15 seconds.
> Yesterday I tried running the system dry then refilling the tank but it 
> didn't seem to help. My best guess is that there is an air bubble in the tank 
> somehow and the pump is compressing the air, so it takes longer to reach 
> pressure and then the pressure bleeds off while the tap is open.
> Any bright ideas on how I might fix this? 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Water heater weirdness

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

In addition, when I open the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is
providing very hot water for the first 10-15 seconds.

Mine does that after motoring for a while because the line runs through the
engine compartment.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm baffled. Maybe someone here can figure this out.
> A few weeks ago, I replaced the leaking overpressure/overtemperature valve
> on our old Raritan water heater, and ever since, the pressure water pump
> acts very oddly. It starts out sounding normal, then as the pressure builds
> it is obviously working harder and slower, until finally it stops. When I
> open the hot water tap, the water runs for quite a while before the pump
> kicks in, whereas it used to come on almost instantaneously. In addition,
> when I open the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is providing very
> hot water for the first 10-15 seconds.
> Yesterday I tried running the system dry then refilling the tank but it
> didn't seem to help. My best guess is that there is an air bubble in the
> tank somehow and the pump is compressing the air, so it takes longer to
> reach pressure and then the pressure bleeds off while the tap is open.
> Any bright ideas on how I might fix this?
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
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Stus-List Water heater weirdness

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The first quart or so of water I get after a long motor will burn your hand and 
I *don’t even HAVE a hot water heater*.
Joe
Coquina

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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:16 PM
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Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Water heater weirdness

In addition, when I open the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is 
providing very hot water for the first 10-15 seconds.

Mine does that after motoring for a while because the line runs through the 
engine compartment.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I'm baffled. Maybe someone here can figure this out.
A few weeks ago, I replaced the leaking overpressure/overtemperature valve on 
our old Raritan water heater, and ever since, the pressure water pump acts very 
oddly. It starts out sounding normal, then as the pressure builds it is 
obviously working harder and slower, until finally it stops. When I open the 
hot water tap, the water runs for quite a while before the pump kicks in, 
whereas it used to come on almost instantaneously. In addition, when I open the 
taps after motoring, the cold water tap is providing very hot water for the 
first 10-15 seconds.
Yesterday I tried running the system dry then refilling the tank but it didn't 
seem to help. My best guess is that there is an air bubble in the tank somehow 
and the pump is compressing the air, so it takes longer to reach pressure and 
then the pressure bleeds off while the tap is open.
Any bright ideas on how I might fix this?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Water heater weirdness

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Sounds like lots of air in the Hot Water Tank to me, which drives hot water
backwards out of the tank into the cold water lines when you turn the cold
tap on.

I'd think you should be able to blead the air out through the new blo-off
valve as it should be the highest thing on the tank.

Did you have the water lines disconnected from the tank and possibly
reconnected them backwards? The dip tube for the cold water inlet could
cause an air bubble in the tank if the lines are connected backward.

Ken H.

On Monday, 22 October 2018, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
wrote:
>
> Mine behaves similarly.  You should be able to bleed the tank from that
new valve. I will give it a shot as well.
>
> I would guess you have a supply line laying on the hot water hose from
the heat exchanger.
>
> Rick Rohwer
> Paikea 37+
> Tacoma, WA
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm baffled. Maybe someone here can figure this out.
>> A few weeks ago, I replaced the leaking overpressure/overtemperature
valve on our old Raritan water heater, and ever since, the pressure water
pump acts very oddly. It starts out sounding normal, then as the pressure
builds it is obviously working harder and slower, until finally it stops.
When I open the hot water tap, the water runs for quite a while before the
pump kicks in, whereas it used to come on almost instantaneously. In
addition, when I open the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is
providing very hot water for the first 10-15 seconds.
>> Yesterday I tried running the system dry then refilling the tank but it
didn't seem to help. My best guess is that there is an air bubble in the
tank somehow and the pump is compressing the air, so it takes longer to
reach pressure and then the pressure bleeds off while the tap is open.
>> Any bright ideas on how I might fix this?
>>
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List inexpensive chartplotter

[schiller via CnC-List]

Fred,

I was with Glenn on our first race with the Raymarine Axiom 9.  We were 
fine until full darkness when the screen brightness overwhelmed Glenn to 
the point that he became disoriented.  We literally turned circles in 
front of a freighter until we could get the brightness down and regained 
our night vision.  It seemed like we were doing fine until, suddenly, we 
were unable to compensate for the brightness.  We were used to my Garmin 
276C (that we had used for the previous couple of years) that 
automatically goes into night mode at sundown.  The GPS knows when local 
sundown is, it's not that difficult to program a night mode.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
Crew member for Wind and Spirits

On 10/22/2018 5:25 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
Glenn — you can turn down the brightness using the power button; this 
works well for nighttime use.  But yes, you’re correct, they don’t 
have a specific night color scheme.


I don’t think the Lighthouse charts are going to be as good in 
Canadian waters as the Navionics+ North America charts.


— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Glenn Gambel via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Fred,
Just wondered if I am correct that Raymarine Axiom 9, which I have 
with Navionics+, still does not have a night mode similar to Garmin? 
 When I discovered that, I contacted their support guy (Charles, 
Chuck) and he indicated they did not have a night mode.  He started a 
ticket on that request to determine if one could be added.  What in 
the world were they thinking.


Secondly, I could swap out Navionics+ for the Raymarine charts, but 
wonder what you think of both?  I will be traveling up into Canadian 
waters (Lake Huron, Georgian Bay) this summer and wonder if there is 
a difference in what one sees on the charts?


Thank you,
Glenn Gambel, 1981 C 36
Wind N Spirits




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Re: Stus-List inexpensive chartplotter

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

My Garmin plotters have two different colour schemes AND two different
display brightness settings, one colour and brightness for day, and the
other for night. It switches automatically between these settings at sun
set / sunrise.

Ken H.

On Monday, 22 October 2018, schiller via CnC-List 
wrote:
> Fred,
>
> I was with Glenn on our first race with the Raymarine Axiom 9.  We were
fine until full darkness when the screen brightness overwhelmed Glenn to
the point that he became disoriented.  We literally turned circles in front
of a freighter until we could get the brightness down and regained our
night vision.  It seemed like we were doing fine until, suddenly, we were
unable to compensate for the brightness.  We were used to my Garmin 276C
(that we had used for the previous couple of years) that automatically goes
into night mode at sundown.  The GPS knows when local sundown is, it's not
that difficult to program a night mode.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
> Crew member for Wind and Spirits
>
> On 10/22/2018 5:25 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Glenn — you can turn down the brightness using the power button; this
works well for nighttime use.  But yes, you’re correct, they don’t have a
specific night color scheme.
> I don’t think the Lighthouse charts are going to be as good in Canadian
waters as the Navionics+ North America charts.
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Glenn Gambel via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Fred,
> Just wondered if I am correct that Raymarine Axiom 9, which I have with
Navionics+, still does not have a night mode similar to Garmin?  When I
discovered that, I contacted their support guy (Charles, Chuck) and he
indicated they did not have a night mode.  He started a ticket on that
request to determine if one could be added.  What in the world were they
thinking.
> Secondly, I could swap out Navionics+ for the Raymarine charts, but
wonder what you think of both?  I will be traveling up into Canadian waters
(Lake Huron, Georgian Bay) this summer and wonder if there is a difference
in what one sees on the charts?
> Thank you,
> Glenn Gambel, 1981 C 36
> Wind N Spirits
>
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Re: Stus-List inexpensive chartplotter

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Glenn — you can turn down the brightness using the power button; this works 
well for nighttime use.  But yes, you’re correct, they don’t have a specific 
night color scheme.

I don’t think the Lighthouse charts are going to be as good in Canadian waters 
as the Navionics+ North America charts.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Glenn Gambel via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fred,
> Just wondered if I am correct that Raymarine Axiom 9, which I have with 
> Navionics+, still does not have a night mode similar to Garmin?  When I 
> discovered that, I contacted their support guy (Charles, Chuck) and he 
> indicated they did not have a night mode.  He started a ticket on that 
> request to determine if one could be added.  What in the world were they 
> thinking.  
> 
> Secondly, I could swap out Navionics+ for the Raymarine charts, but wonder 
> what you think of both?  I will be traveling up into Canadian waters (Lake 
> Huron, Georgian Bay) this summer and wonder if there is a difference in what 
> one sees on the charts?
> 
> Thank you,
> Glenn Gambel, 1981 C 36
> Wind N Spirits

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Re: Stus-List inexpensive chartplotter

[Glenn Gambel via CnC-List]

Fred,
Just wondered if I am correct that Raymarine Axiom 9, which I have with 
Navionics+, still does not have a night mode similar to Garmin?  When I 
discovered that, I contacted their support guy (Charles, Chuck) and he 
indicated they did not have a night mode.  He started a ticket on that 
request to determine if one could be added.  What in the world were they 
thinking.


Secondly, I could swap out Navionics+ for the Raymarine charts, but 
wonder what you think of both?  I will be traveling up into Canadian 
waters (Lake Huron, Georgian Bay) this summer and wonder if there is a 
difference in what one sees on the charts?


Thank you,
Glenn Gambel, 1981 C 36
Wind N Spirits

-- Original Message --
From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Frederick G Street" 
Sent: 10/19/2018 8:42:56 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List inexpensive chartplotter

Chris — once you’ve decided on a make/model but before you purchase, 
please email me — as you’re new to the list, you probably aren’t aware 
of this, but I used to design and install marine electronics and 
electrical systems for a living.  I’ve kept my vendor relationships 
active, and offer discount pricing (pretty much dealer cost) to people 
on the C list as a courtesy.  I can get most manufacturers’ gear (not 
B…) at good pricing; for instance, your cost on the lowest-end 
Raymarine Axiom 7” plotter with Navionics+ US/Canada charts would be 
$780.00 plus shipping (list $899.99).  Email me off-list.


— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Oct 19, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I've seen a few of those listed. I'll check out prices!

On Friday, October 19, 2018, 8:30:41 AM EDT, Danny Haughey via 
CnC-List  wrote:



I installed a Si-Tex chartplotter on my last boat.  I used it for a 
few

years before selling the boat and it was fine.  I think the 7" version
was 1/2 the price of the 7" Raymarine.  I think it was about $600

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Re: Stus-List diesel engine staring procedure

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

Hi Chris, On my girlfriend's boat, she has the same engine. When starting we 
set the throttle to about 1/4 to 1/3 then start cranking. Sometimes I'll engage 
the compression release to get the engine spinning a little faster (about 10 
secs) then release it. Another thing we do is flush the engine with fresh water 
before putting the boat to bed. Hope this helps. 
Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LF39Port Orchard YC. WA




Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/22/18  09:38  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham  Subject: 
Stus-List diesel engine staring procedure 
I have a quick question about the specifics of starting a Yanmar SB8 single 
cylinder engine. The previous owner also disconnected the kill switch and 
turned off the engine with the key so i want to reattach the cable this spring.
Is there a specific amount of throttle to set it at prior to turning it over? I 
think I remember by old Volvo-Penta had to be positioned at 3/4 open and then 
immediately dropped down to idle once the engine turned over. 
anything special I need to know? No real information out there and the old 
service manuals are pretty much impossible to locate at this point.
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Re: Stus-List diesel engine staring procedure

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

Omg! Perfect!! 
This is perfect. Thanks so much. Now I just have to figure out where the 
compression release is 
I’ll figure it out. We flushed it with fresh water followed by RV pink anti 
freeze 
Flushing it is a great suggestion
Chris 


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On Monday, October 22, 2018, 5:51 PM, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Chris, On my girlfriend's boat, she has the same engine. When starting we 
set the throttle to about 1/4 to 1/3 then start cranking. Sometimes I'll engage 
the compression release to get the engine spinning a little faster (about 10 
secs) then release it. Another thing we do is flush the engine with fresh water 
before putting the boat to bed. Hope this helps. 
Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LF39Port Orchard YC. WA




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 Original message From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/22/18 09:38 (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham  Subject: 
Stus-List diesel engine staring procedure 
I have a quick question about the specifics of starting a Yanmar SB8 single 
cylinder engine. The previous owner also disconnected the kill switch and 
turned off the engine with the key so i want to reattach the cable this spring.
Is there a specific amount of throttle to set it at prior to turning it over? I 
think I remember by old Volvo-Penta had to be positioned at 3/4 open and then 
immediately dropped down to idle once the engine turned over. 
anything special I need to know? No real information out there and the old 
service manuals are pretty much impossible to locate at this point.
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Stus-List Water heater weirdness

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm baffled. Maybe someone here can figure this out.
A few weeks ago, I replaced the leaking overpressure/overtemperature valve
on our old Raritan water heater, and ever since, the pressure water pump
acts very oddly. It starts out sounding normal, then as the pressure builds
it is obviously working harder and slower, until finally it stops. When I
open the hot water tap, the water runs for quite a while before the pump
kicks in, whereas it used to come on almost instantaneously. In addition,
when I open the taps after motoring, the cold water tap is providing very
hot water for the first 10-15 seconds.
Yesterday I tried running the system dry then refilling the tank but it
didn't seem to help. My best guess is that there is an air bubble in the
tank somehow and the pump is compressing the air, so it takes longer to
reach pressure and then the pressure bleeds off while the tap is open.
Any bright ideas on how I might fix this?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Air conditioner placement

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Our 1990 37/40 has plastic mirrors in the head and aft cabin (they look
like glass) with no frames surrounding them on the head cabinet doors.  The
head cabinet mirrors cover the entire surface of the doors and there are
narrow mirror filler strips above the doors as well. I've noticed the 1993
and later 37/40's have smaller mirrors in frames on the upper cabinet doors
in the head so perhaps they switched back to glass with those?

Ken H.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 11:27, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Mine is set up like Josh's with no mirror over the engine, but one to the
> port side of the aft cabin engine area.  However, the mirrors in the head
> are definitely glass, as one is cracked in one corner.
>
> In Tampa I find the A/C keeps up, but runs a lot to keep the interior
> comfortable.
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C 37/40+
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> Date: 10/20/18 3:38 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C List 
> Cc: Josh Muckley 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Air conditioner placement
>
> Mine is under the stairs.  I have no mirror.  16000btu doesn't cool
> well... But I don't know exactly why.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 3:34 PM Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok all you 37+ guys...the mirror discussion sparked a thought:  I have
>> air conditioner installation located in aft cabin hanging locker, and would
>> like to move it to have the storage.  The space under the companionway is
>> open.  I'm thinking I could install AC unit in the space below companionway
>> steps.  This would allow a forward-facing air duct, and if the mirror were
>> shortened in the aft cabin, an aft-facing duct just over the engine
>> compartment.
>>
>> In Michigan's UP, this might just be enough to keep cool on BOTH of those
>> warm days. Anyone with some creative experience and/or ideas?
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Saur*
>>
>> (517)-490-5926
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Stus-List C vs. Wilma :(

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2018/10/22/powerful-east-coast-storm-may-develop-friday-into-weekend/?utm_term=.a559c2294827

Yikes!


Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Where are you guys stopping along the way?  We might be able to meet up on
the way north.  We were kinda planning to leave Solomons tomorrow.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 11:36 AM detroito91 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Rick brass and I (jim Schwartz) are leaving Washington now. See you Friday
> Jim Schwartz
> 38 lf
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> Date: 10/22/18 11:09 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: "Dennis C." 
> Subject: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!
>
> The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are
> attending.
>
> The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot
> luck on the docks Friday night.
>
> The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C
> owners.  We'll be there Saturday afternoon.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Good luck Wally!!!!

[james via CnC-List]

Hope you come through this safe and sound!

James

Delaney

1976 C 38

Oriental, NC


On 10/22/2018 8:14 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
Here’s a post from Wal Bryant on /Stella Blue/ (Landfall 38) in Mexico 
(posted with his permission); he’s in the more direct path of Willa 
right now:


And so it begins. Willa to the North, Vicente to the south. And me in 
the middle. (I think that's a classic quote from Clint Eastwood's 
'For a Fistful of Dollars.')


The worry is Willa. It's going to hit to the North, and with 
anticlockwise rotation the wind and swell is going to come straight 
from the Southwest. The Bay is wide open from that direction, and 
yesterday Mike Michael Eric Danielson 
 at 
PV Sailing said the swell forecast was for 20 foot swells. I've 
sailed my boat through 20 foot seas, and used the EFF word a few 
times. Having them hit shallow water and slam into the breakwater 
will be something to watch. I think it's entirely possible that waves 
will wash over the breakwater into the marina. The breakwater itself 
is relatively new, and hasn't filled in with sand and sediment. When 
there is surge outside, boats inside still move around. A lot.


So I spent today adding dock lines, and setting up spare dock lines, 
and taping around hatches that have leaky gaskets, and making an 
inventory of rope. I have more rope on this boat than is reasonable. 
People laugh at me. But once, a couple of years ago, a barge broke 
loose and I had 400 feet of rope. It came in handy.


As soon as I was done getting my lines and my backup lines ready, the 
rain started. The hurricane is still two days off. This is just the 
outer fringe.


Walking around this morning, I seemed to be the only one preparing. I 
saw someone doing brightwork (varnishing teak.) I mentioned the 
situation to someone else, and she said "We talked to Long-Timers and 
they said it's no big deal." Well, I've been in Pacific Mexico for 
nine years, and this is only the second time I've set up to get hit 
by sh_t. And it's the first time I've pulled a couple of lines over 
to the pilings two feet above the spring tide high water mark.


I've seen 50 with gusts to 70, and that was at anchor where the boat 
was pointed into the wind. I'm really not worried about wind, I'm 
worried about wind swell.


I think tomorrow a bunch of people will be running around in the rain 
doing what I did this morning. I'll be inside the boat making sure my 
bilge pumps are clear and the through hulls are closed and the last 
minute details are done. Then I'll adjust the lines to move the boat 
boat away from the dock, put on my Helly Hansen jacket and hope that 
the people who said "It's nothing" were right and I was totally 
wrong. I really hope that all I've done is give my spare dock lines a 
good rinse.




Let’s wish him luck.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2018/10/22/powerful-east-coast-storm-may-develop-friday-into-weekend/?utm_term=.a559c2294827
Yikes!
Joe
Coquina



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Re: Stus-List C vs. Wilma :(

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Ditto

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Here’s a post from Wal Bryant on Stella Blue (Landfall 38) in Mexico (posted 
with his permission); he’s in the more direct path of Willa right now:


And so it begins. Willa to the North, Vicente to the south. And me in the 
middle. (I think that's a classic quote from Clint Eastwood's 'For a Fistful of 
Dollars.')

The worry is Willa. It's going to hit to the North, and with anticlockwise 
rotation the wind and swell is going to come straight from the Southwest. The 
Bay is wide open from that direction, and yesterday Mike Michael Eric 
Danielson
 at PV Sailing said the swell forecast was for 20 foot swells. I've sailed my 
boat through 20 foot seas, and used the EFF word a few times. Having them hit 
shallow water and slam into the breakwater will be something to watch. I think 
it's entirely possible that waves will wash over the breakwater into the 
marina. The breakwater itself is relatively new, and hasn't filled in with sand 
and sediment. When there is surge outside, boats inside still move around. A 
lot.

So I spent today adding dock lines, and setting up spare dock lines, and taping 
around hatches that have leaky gaskets, and making an inventory of rope. I have 
more rope on this boat than is reasonable. People laugh at me. But once, a 
couple of years ago, a barge broke loose and I had 400 feet of rope. It came in 
handy.

As soon as I was done getting my lines and my backup lines ready, the rain 
started. The hurricane is still two days off. This is just the outer fringe.

Walking around this morning, I seemed to be the only one preparing. I saw 
someone doing brightwork (varnishing teak.) I mentioned the situation to 
someone else, and she said "We talked to Long-Timers and they said it's no big 
deal." Well, I've been in Pacific Mexico for nine years, and this is only the 
second time I've set up to get hit by sh_t. And it's the first time I've pulled 
a couple of lines over to the pilings two feet above the spring tide high water 
mark.

I've seen 50 with gusts to 70, and that was at anchor where the boat was 
pointed into the wind. I'm really not worried about wind, I'm worried about 
wind swell.

I think tomorrow a bunch of people will be running around in the rain doing 
what I did this morning. I'll be inside the boat making sure my bilge pumps are 
clear and the through hulls are closed and the last minute details are done. 
Then I'll adjust the lines to move the boat boat away from the dock, put on my 
Helly Hansen jacket and hope that the people who said "It's nothing" were right 
and I was totally wrong. I really hope that all I've done is give my spare dock 
lines a good rinse.

Let’s wish him luck.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2018/10/22/powerful-east-coast-storm-may-develop-friday-into-weekend/?utm_term=.a559c2294827

Yikes!


Joe
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Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C Rendezvous - this weekend!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

There's lots of room and everybody is welcome, but with 10 couples coming I
think 20 people might be a little tight Edd!

Josh

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 12:31 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> There should be plenty of room for everyone inside Josh’s boat to host
> inside.
>
> See: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjkzr5aw5uu4r61/IMG_2349.JPG?dl=0
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> We're still planning to arrive Thursday afternoon.  Friday is looking
> great, we'll be entering all day.  Saturday weather is looking kinda snotty
> so Carmel and I will be available and willing to entertain inside all day.
> Sunday should be better and Monday is shaping up to be a decent departure.
>
> Follow and post videos and pictures to the Facebook page.  Feel free to
> message us there as well.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/2018MACCR/
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 11:10 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The rendezvous is this weekend.  Bunch of folks have responded they are
>> attending.
>>
>> The agenda remains flexible.  Apparently the only fixed activity is a pot
>> luck on the docks Friday night.
>>
>> The Admiral and I are looking forward to meeting a bunch of fellow C
>> owners.  We'll be there Saturday afternoon.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List C vs. Wilma :(

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Here’s a post from Wal Bryant on Stella Blue (Landfall 38) in Mexico (posted 
with his permission); he’s in the more direct path of Willa right now:

> And so it begins. Willa to the North, Vicente to the south. And me in the 
> middle. (I think that's a classic quote from Clint Eastwood's 'For a Fistful 
> of Dollars.') 
> The worry is Willa. It's going to hit to the North, and with anticlockwise 
> rotation the wind and swell is going to come straight from the Southwest. The 
> Bay is wide open from that direction, and yesterday Mike Michael Eric 
> Danielson 
> 
>  at PV Sailing said the swell forecast was for 20 foot swells. I've sailed my 
> boat through 20 foot seas, and used the EFF word a few times. Having them hit 
> shallow water and slam into the breakwater will be something to watch. I 
> think it's entirely possible that waves will wash over the breakwater into 
> the marina. The breakwater itself is relatively new, and hasn't filled in 
> with sand and sediment. When there is surge outside, boats inside still move 
> around. A lot.
> So I spent today adding dock lines, and setting up spare dock lines, and 
> taping around hatches that have leaky gaskets, and making an inventory of 
> rope. I have more rope on this boat than is reasonable. People laugh at me. 
> But once, a couple of years ago, a barge broke loose and I had 400 feet of 
> rope. It came in handy. 
> As soon as I was done getting my lines and my backup lines ready, the rain 
> started. The hurricane is still two days off. This is just the outer fringe.
> Walking around this morning, I seemed to be the only one preparing. I saw 
> someone doing brightwork (varnishing teak.) I mentioned the situation to 
> someone else, and she said "We talked to Long-Timers and they said it's no 
> big deal." Well, I've been in Pacific Mexico for nine years, and this is only 
> the second time I've set up to get hit by sh_t. And it's the first time I've 
> pulled a couple of lines over to the pilings two feet above the spring tide 
> high water mark. 
> I've seen 50 with gusts to 70, and that was at anchor where the boat was 
> pointed into the wind. I'm really not worried about wind, I'm worried about 
> wind swell.
> I think tomorrow a bunch of people will be running around in the rain doing 
> what I did this morning. I'll be inside the boat making sure my bilge pumps 
> are clear and the through hulls are closed and the last minute details are 
> done. Then I'll adjust the lines to move the boat boat away from the dock, 
> put on my Helly Hansen jacket and hope that the people who said "It's 
> nothing" were right and I was totally wrong. I really hope that all I've done 
> is give my spare dock lines a good rinse.

Let’s wish him luck.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2018/10/22/powerful-east-coast-storm-may-develop-friday-into-weekend/?utm_term=.a559c2294827
>  
> 
>  
> Yikes!
>  
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
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Re: Stus-List C vs. Wilma :(

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Tighten everything down including your self. Good luck in weathering the  "no 
big deal" storm.  This time it might beJim Schwartz38 lfSEA YA!Washington nc 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/22/18  8:14 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: David via 
CnC-List  Cc: Frederick G Street , 
Wally Bryant , Brett Crocker  
Subject: Re: Stus-List C vs. Wilma :( 
Here’s a post from Wal Bryant on Stella Blue (Landfall 38) in Mexico (posted 
with his permission); he’s in the more direct path of Willa right now:
And so it begins. Willa to the North, Vicente to the south. And me in the 
middle. (I think that's a classic quote from Clint Eastwood's 'For a Fistful of 
Dollars.') The worry is Willa. It's going to hit to the North, and with 
anticlockwise rotation the wind and swell is going to come straight from the 
Southwest. The Bay is wide open from that direction, and yesterday Mike Michael 
Eric Danielson at PV Sailing said the swell forecast was for 20 foot swells. 
I've sailed my boat through 20 foot seas, and used the EFF word a few times. 
Having them hit shallow water and slam into the breakwater will be something to 
watch. I think it's entirely possible that waves will wash over the breakwater 
into the marina. The breakwater itself is relatively new, and hasn't filled in 
with sand and sediment. When there is surge outside, boats inside still move 
around. A lot.So I spent today adding dock lines, and setting up spare dock 
lines, and taping around hatches that have leaky gaskets, and making an 
inventory of rope. I have more rope on this boat than is reasonable. People 
laugh at me. But once, a couple of years ago, a barge broke loose and I had 400 
feet of rope. It came in handy. As soon as I was done getting my lines and my 
backup lines ready, the rain started. The hurricane is still two days off. This 
is just the outer fringe.Walking around this morning, I seemed to be the only 
one preparing. I saw someone doing brightwork (varnishing teak.) I mentioned 
the situation to someone else, and she said "We talked to Long-Timers and they 
said it's no big deal." Well, I've been in Pacific Mexico for nine years, and 
this is only the second time I've set up to get hit by sh_t. And it's the first 
time I've pulled a couple of lines over to the pilings two feet above the 
spring tide high water mark. I've seen 50 with gusts to 70, and that was at 
anchor where the boat was pointed into the wind. I'm really not worried about 
wind, I'm worried about wind swell.I think tomorrow a bunch of people will be 
running around in the rain doing what I did this morning. I'll be inside the 
boat making sure my bilge pumps are clear and the through hulls are closed and 
the last minute details are done. Then I'll adjust the lines to move the boat 
boat away from the dock, put on my Helly Hansen jacket and hope that the people 
who said "It's nothing" were right and I was totally wrong. I really hope that 
all I've done is give my spare dock lines a good rinse.
Let’s wish him luck.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2018/10/22/powerful-east-coast-storm-may-develop-friday-into-weekend/?utm_term=.a559c2294827
 Yikes!  JoeCoquina___

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Stus-List Looking for a cruising chute

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all, 

I am looking for a asymmetrical cruising spinnaker for a 1994 C 37/40+ 
(centerboard version).  Per the specs, the I = 52', the J=16', and measuring 
from a full hoist with the spinnaker halyard to the attachment at the foot 
yields 53'8", and to the top of the lifelines is 51'10".
Does anyone have such a sail they'd like to part with?
If not, which of the used sail consignment shops do you recommend?
Thanks!!!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"  
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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