Re: Woody textareas?
On 30/06/2003 18:58 Luke Penca wrote: Are textareas implemented in Woody yet? I cannot find anything in the (oh so sparse) documentation. Have you checked with http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Woody ? It's not fully up to date, but that tracking CVS commit messages might help you already. Furthermore, has anyone used Woody extensively yet? (I know, I know, it's alpha at this point but I need some serious forms handling.) Should I be considering Xforms instead? Who got some experience getting their hands bloodied with forms in Cocoon? I'm ever anxious to find out. I jotted down already some of the background of Woody's genesis over here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=105491414614553w=2 So its feature list is in active expansion, and it has been created to be extensively used and actively supported. HTH, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear, we (the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list moderators) are being bombarded with moderation requests for misguided return mails from an overzealous virus scanner on your mail system - could you please check this with your network administrators? If this situation persists, we will be forced to unsubscribe any @treev.com address subscribed to our mailing list. A sample mail is attached. Best regards and thanks for your attention, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: moderator for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 40649 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 13:56:53 - Received: from mail.treev.com (HELO tralfaz.herndon.treev.com) (204.188.185.4) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 13:56:53 - Received: by tralfaz.herndon.treev.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id J8CQ5XNP; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:53:04 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: GroupShield for Exchange (TRALFAZ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB3172_1056635580_TRALFAZ_3 wa s generated Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:53:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Action Taken: The message was blocked because of its subject. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Gabriel Egolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1095108096,29572074 Subject: Random ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: N/A File: Infected.msg Infected? No Repaired? No Blocked? Yes Deleted? No Virus Name: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developper address
On 13/06/2003 8:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does somebody know who developped the LDAP transformer, and what is his address? I would like to ask him some questions about the transformer because nobody seems to know how to solve my problem. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/cocoon-2-historical/src/org/apache/cocoon/transformation/Attic/LDAPTransformer.java?hideattic=0 /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVS livesites.xml - what is couldn't confirm
On 9/06/2003 12:31 Stavros Kounis wrote: in livesites.xml are some site with the comments: couldn't confirm and no X-Cocoon header what does this comment mean ? I was checking whether the sites listed on that page still exist, and whether they are effectively 'powered by cocoon'. I only eradicated the host-not-founds so far, and I'm not yet halfway through the list. Some weeding once in a while shouldn't harm IMHO. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVS livesites.xml - what is couldn't confirm
On 9/06/2003 13:36 Stavros Kounis wrote: our site www.osmosis.gr is realy powered by cocoon and all others web site we have announce in cocon-users list you can test this here: http://www.osmosis.gr/xml/ all web sites under /xml/ are cocoon's sub sitemaps http://www.forestland.gr http://www.portovistonis.gr http://www.g-arseniou.gr Great. Please send in a comprehensive patch if you want them to be updated. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVS livesites.xml - what is couldn't confirm
On 9/06/2003 14:29 Stavros Kounis wrote: i have to send the patched file direct to your, to this list ore somewhere else? The list, please. Thanks! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [patched livesites.xml] Re: CVS livesites.xml - what is couldn'tconfirm
On 9/06/2003 15:47 Stavros Kounis wrote: steven this is the patched livesites.xml with 4 new entries could you please prepare a proper patch (cvs diff -u) to take in account as little changes as possible? you reformatted the entire file... /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [patched livesites.xml] Re: CVS livesites.xml - what is couldn't
On 9/06/2003 17:41 Upayavira wrote: Sounds like you have exactly what you want. Leave the file as is and send it. Don't remove anything. Yep! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using pipeline matched parameters in XSP
On 5/06/2003 22:26 Andreas Hartmann wrote: Sorry if you felt offended - it was not against your tag but against its misuse :) No offense at all - just curious. It was such a stupid little thing that I started wondering why nobody had contributed it before. Thanks for your explanation! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious Encoding Problems (Umlaute)
On 6/06/2003 11:55 Alexander Schatten wrote: and moreover: I do not understand why this iso setting is not the default setting: because it works with all characters english as well as german... so why not use this one as default, would be less confusing for all, no? How about all these people _not_ using a classical anglosaxonroman language? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: commandline executes matching pipeline three times
On 4/06/2003 15:39 Geert Van Damme wrote: Hi, I'm trying to run Cocoon from the command line, but it seems that the matching pipeline for the requested URI is executed three times instead of just one. Did anyone experience the same problem ? bug == feature ;-) binnen Cocoon 2.1 wordt er momenteel flink getimmerd aan de CLI, als ik me goed herinner loopt men daar maar twéé keer over dezelfde pijplijn. Groetjes, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: commandline executes matching pipeline three times
On 4/06/2003 15:48 Steven Noels wrote: bug == feature ;-) binnen Cocoon 2.1 wordt er momenteel flink getimmerd aan de CLI, als ik me goed herinner loopt men daar maar twéé keer over dezelfde pijplijn. bzt - wrong To: address Dutch-speaking people: stop laughing ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passing parameters to xsp files
On 2/06/2003 15:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This all works fine, updating and everything. Except for this: I want the right foreign key selected in my form. I cannot expect my users to select the right owner in the drop down box everytime they do an update. So I want to tell the owner.xsp file the owner_id of the application.xsp file that includes it. A simple test in the owner.xslt should then do the trick. I know it is possible to pass parameters through the sitemap, but in this case I want the contents of my parameter to be dependent on the contents of my xsp file. I don't know how to do this. I don't even know if I'm thinking in the right direction. I might be totally off-hook, but did you know there is a get-sitemap-parameter tag in the xsp-util logicsheet? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fraud in XML-Journal Awards
On 27/03/2003 9:56 John Peterson wrote: The Open source products (OpenOffice, Cocoon and Batik) contested for the Awards must know the truth. Also, I request OpenOffice users to send emails to XML-J editors (email-ids given below) and ask them to examine the evidence. Please let them here the voices of Open Source folks. Regards, John [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry to say, but SysCon and its publications have never been sources for trustworthy information IMHO. While I appreciate the effort you went through investigating this incident, I firmly believe Cocoon's rise or fall will not depend on us winning some XML-Journal Award. Thanks for confirming my assumptions! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RSS
On 26/03/2003 18:33 Richard Cunliffe wrote: I want to call a RSS feed. Is it possible for the style sheet to use the XML document it is styling and the XML RSS feed. How would I set up my sitemap to do this? And how would I call the two different XML files in my style sheet? I understand (please try to formulate your exact question better in the future) that you want to use an RSS feed as a source. Your sitemap should consider something like this: map:match pattern=myfeed.html map:generate src=http://host/myfeed.rss/ map:transform src=mystylesheet.xsl/ map:serialize/ /map:match when accessing this pipeline using http://host/cocoon/myfeed.html, Cocoon will read the RSS feed and apply the mystylesheet.xsl onto it, producing HTML (if that's what the stylesheet has been designed for). I've recently written a (hopefully) layman's intro into Cocoon as a paper for a conference, maybe some of it makes sense to you: http://www.idealliance.org/europe/03/call/xmlpapers/02-01-05.14/.02-01-05.html In case you want to really use the content of the RSS feed _inside_ your XSLT stylesheet (as a variable perhaps), you should use the XSLT document() function, for which you also can specify an URL as a source. But all in all, since you have choosen for Cocoon, you might as well use Cocoon aggregation or the various IncludeTransformers instead. Hope this helps, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is wikiland.
On 25/03/2003 7:06 Derek Hohls wrote: do you have a demo-site, too? I've installed it on http://cocoon.cocoondev.org/mount/editor/edit/see(wiki)/StartingPoints. It looks better than it used too, at the brink of being something useful. Olivier, what TextFormattingRules does Radeox support? (Radeox is the wiki-xhtml rendering engine used in SnipSnap, a very cool if somehow weird blog/wiki engine) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: what about simply reusing the userlist from the cocoon-dev, cocoon-user, cocoon-doc mailing lists and allow write access only to these registered users ? We don't have access to the list of registered email addresses on cocoon-* lists, and I doubt that will happen any time soon - there's some privacy issues involved with that, too. Pier, do you have any opinion about this? I'm thinking along the lines of adding some container-based authentication around Edit.jsp, and some smallish webapp so that people can register an email address (= user name) / password. Does anyone has something like that laying around? Use cases: * enter email address - generated pwd gets send to you - address pwd are stored in db * you can log into that app - change pwd - drop your registration data * that same database is used for container-based authentication around Edit.jsp What do you guys think? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN/OT] xreporter 1.1 release - Avalon/Cocoon-based web databasereporting
Ryan Hoegg wrote: Hi, This is the second announcement I've seen for this project. I must say, from what I've seen of it it fills a large gap in the open source enterprise software arena. Have you considered using the Incubator to get this into Apache? Forrest is a good example of a Cocoon-based project that has done the same. Hi Ryan, the xReporter community is still very young, and only the first almost-patches are trickling in ATM. One of the main criteria for Apache-adoption is the existence of a _diverse_ group of committers, not residing under one single company umbrella, which unfortunately is the case ATM with xReporter. Not by intention, just by the young age of the project. As much as we are open to the idea of donating the codebase to Apache, we think the community isn't there yet, and we don't just want to dump our code for reasons of being 'cool' or the like. We specifically warn people of the possibility of an eventual donation in our license, so when the community and interest is there, it might happen. Re: Forrest, I assume you are referring to Lenya really, since Forrest is and always has been an Apache project. May I warn you also that Lenya has not become an Incubating Apache project yet, IIUC. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN/OT] xreporter 1.1 release - Avalon/Cocoon-based web databasereporting
Ryan Hoegg wrote:
Ah, well then as soon as I get to my next project involving reporting, I
will be sure to stay in touch, and begin diversifying your community :)
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yep, that's what we like :-)
/Steven
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Re: [ANN/OT] xreporter 1.1 release - Avalon/Cocoon-based web databasereporting
Sean McKaharay wrote:
All I can say I can't wait for each release and see how much this
grows. Thanks everyone for all the help and I hope I can help in the
future.
{blush}
Thanks, Sean.
/Steven
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[heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please
Folks, while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent abuse: people uploading attachments which don't have much to do with Cocoon (possibly just making benefit of the bandwidth we are sponsoring), people playing around on certain non-Sandbox pages, even to the extreme of erasing the Main page, and various other not-so-funny things. I'm very happy to see some people go in and correct, and the new 'restore latest version' feature of JSPWiki sure helps with this. Nevertheless, I'm annoyed a bit by the lack of adult behaviour by some IP addresses, and was wondering whether (and how) I should block them. I know this sounds pretty harsh, and that's why I'm polling you guys to see what you would think would be a fair policy. I know, thanks to the Power Of Wiki, everybody can come in and make the Wiki a self-healing thing, but still I'm worried that someone will come and add image links to some nasty p0rn images, and that this will scare off our regular community. Your thoughts, please: what kind of policy would you come up with, or are willing to live up to? Thanks, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANN/OT] xreporter 1.1 release - Avalon/Cocoon-based web databasereporting
Hi all, we've just released the 1.1 version of xReporter, our open source Avalon/Cocoon-based database reporting framework, available from http://xreporter.cocoondev.org/ xReporter consists of 2 main components: * an Avalon Phoenix-based query server, which is configured through XML-based report definitions, and is accessible across an XML/HTTP interface * a Cocoon front-end generating configurable HTML, PDF, Excel and CSV renditions of your database reports, thanks to the wonders of FOP, POI and some Cocoon drudgery New things in this release: - a new skinning system to make it easy to implement your own look feel without extensive XSLT coding - support for grouping in report definition and visualisation - a simplified and configurable build system - various other little fixes and patches xReporter is released under an Apache-style license, and we welcome contributions and patches. There's a live demo available on the project website, too. Have fun, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cocoon reverse proxy
zze-MORY Nicolas FTRD/DMI/REN wrote: wHERE can i get more informations about the reverse proxy mode of Cocoon ? Wild guess: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best Java for RedHat?
Jeremy Quinn wrote: % java -version java version 1.3.1 jdkgcj 0.2.3 (http://www.arklinux.org/projects/jdkgcj) gcj (GCC) 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. Ek...! Just go for IBM or Sun JDK, Jeremy. IIRC, IBM has released a 1.4 version of its VM, too. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[strawpoll] use of excelon/progress stylus studio
Folks, I've been contacted by Progress/Excelon to discuss some new features they are looking into adding in some upcoming version of Stylus Studio. Most importantly (to me), they are aiming to provide full XML Entity Catalog support to v5 upon my request (OK, I used my Apache hat to motivate them), so that people can edit Forrest document-v11 docs without being peskered with unresolvable doctype declarations. Related to my enquiry, the Excelon guy also suggested they would be willing to implement better Cocoon support inside Stylus, and we can all dream what that might be: sitemap syntax highlighting and completion, pipeline debugging, and whatnot. Their XSLT syntax completion is already quite nice, and they make use of Xalan/J and /C++ internally in their product. Before starting to influence Excelon into some direction, I'd like to know whether Stylus is in heavy use by the Cocoon community. Please get back to me if you are using Stylus, and if you have compelling Cocoon-related questions/suggestions for them. I don't know whether this is a Real Thing yet, but it might as well become one if we come up with some good stuff to add. I have no relationship with Excelon/Progress except that Outerthought is an educational partner, and we are allowed to provide attendees of our XML/XSLT courses with a free copy of the tool. Cheers, and thanks for any remarks. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: big ESQL performance problem
Leszek Gawron wrote: esql:execute-query esql:query SELECT K.K_NIP AS Knt_NipE, B.GST_KntID AS Knt_KntId, B.GST_KntID AS Knt_Kod, K.K_GRUPA AS Knt_Grupa, How does the rest of your pipeline looks like? Can you post the relevant sitemap snippet? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOW DO I BUILD THE WAR FILE?
Chance, Sam USA wrote: Great! I think what is happening tome is that because I am behind a firewall, I can't connect to the CVS server, so I download the snapshots which lag... Anyone know how to get around the firewall problem in order to connect to CVS server? http://cvsgrab.sourceforge.net/ /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requirements for Hosting
Guenther Schmidt wrote: However I've got no Java know how so I don't know if it is enough to find a hosting service that merely provides a Java Servlet engine (like Tomcat) and install Cocoon yourself or if you need Cocoon preinstalled. No affiliation except being a happy customer: http://www.aoindustries.com/ /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reporting Engine
Sean McKaharay wrote: xReporter...I am using xReporter right now. It takes a little time to understand all the stylesheets but I think it works great for reporting. ... and our stylesheets are under serious rework to show off xReporter can look nice, too ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Training others on Cocoon - suggestions?
Irv Salisbury III wrote: Derek, I tried to send a PDF of the training that we used, but it was too large for the list to accept. (It is 288K) Send me an email directly if you want it. Here are the topics in it: Irv has sent me the PDFs and they are up on the Wiki: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Tutorials Very kind of you, Irv - thanks! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with presentation wanted
Argyn wrote: Thank you, all for suggestions! I forgot to mention the event I'm preparing to speak at. It's egovos.org on March in Washington, DC. If someone's planning to attend let's have a drink :) for the curious amongst us: http://www.egovos.org/march-2003/cfp-review.cgi?id=5 /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wiki Rules [Was: AW: Added a beginners page on basic cocoonapporganisation]
Jan Harms wrote: Hi Niclas, you´re probably right. The reason I didn´t do the changes myself is that I´m not sure about the Wiki-rules. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiDesignPrinciples http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiHistory In other words: relax and do what you think is good. _If_ 'we' don't like what you do, we can always patch what you have done. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple example / XML / XSLT In production
Adrian Boston wrote: If you want to comment on your xml success in your production systems, great, otherwise, drsvp. Adrian, Robert, as perhaps has become obvious something like a week ago, we try to refrain from personal comments other than some light banter on this list. Cocoon-users has always been a friendly community in the past, and we'd like to keep it that way. I see Robert is back, for which I'm happy. But please, let's keep the spirit high. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with presentation wanted
Argyn wrote: I'm preparing a presentation/speech on Cocoon. The audience is IT pros and managers. I tend to talk about technical aspects of Cocoon projects when speaking to strangers :), but this time, the main focus must be the features/functionality. Dunnow if it helps, but also take a look at http://outerthought.net/gettogether/ /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sitemap Tag Reference
Robert Simmons wrote: Is there a reference manual to the sitemap schema and tags ? If you, I would appreciate a link. not really, but there are some XML grammars in CVS: - src\documentation\xdocs\drafts\sitemap-2.1-draft.xsd - src\webapp\WEB-INF\entities\sitemap-v06.rng That's for HEAD. For the 2.0.* series, I do not know of anything more authorative than our poster version at http://outerthought.net/downloads/sitemap.pdf /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates (WhyWiki?)
Derek Hohls wrote: (FWIW; most people are ornery and try and do things that they are told they *can't* do or that are impossible to do... like breaking into DoD computers; being told you *can* delete pages on a wiki is just not attractive enough to make you want to do it!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/01/2003 04:45:01 On the same topic, I am more distressed at this editing policy. Someone could easily be malicious and log in and erase everything. Are we sure there isn't a better way to do this? Thanks, Derek, right on target. Anyway, if anyone would be really malicious, we still have daily backups of the Wiki. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Create a new thread, if discussions leave off ground
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Nowadays threads keep on growing, but the discussions sometimes turn away from the thread title. then it becomes really a problem to guess the content from the title. Also keep in mind that changing the subject title while replying won't be enough to rethread, since most decent MUAs still keep the references in place, and show their threaded view depending on these references. If you really want to rethread, better start a new message. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon hosting - experiences?
gv wrote: I am curious about people's experiences with setting up live Cocoon sites with a Web host: Any hosts that seem particularly good (or bad)? http://www.aoindustries.com/ operates the hardware behind cocoondev.org and does a decent job at it. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Im sure its a simple problem!
Richard Cunliffe wrote: C:\tomcat\webapps\soundpool\soundpool.xml C:\tomcat\webapps\soundpool\soundpool.xsl + tomcat (folder) + webapps (folder) +- soundpool (folder) +- soundpool.xml (file) +- soundpool.xsl (file) I assume that webapps is the correct folder. nope, you should put them underneath your cocoon webapp folder: C:\tomcat\webapps\cocoon\soundpool.xml and access them using http://localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/soundpool I'm not sure whether it is that what you want. I'm pretty sure you want to access these resources using http://localhost:8080/soundpool/soundpool or similar http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/faq-configure-environment.html#faq-1 might help you here. hope this helps, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wiki admin] wiki going down for half an hour or so
While trying to upgrade the Wiki this morning, I messed up royaly due to a little warning message I overlooked in the changelog. That way, the RecentChanges page is hosed too, unfortunately. Sorry for the disturbance. I think I find now how to do it, but won't be able to do a 'live upgrade', and am going to take the Wiki offline for half an hour or so. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [wiki admin] wiki going down for half an hour or so
Steven Noels wrote: I think I find now how to do it, but won't be able to do a 'live upgrade', and am going to take the Wiki offline for half an hour or so. Looks like all is well again, except for the hosed RecentChanges. Enjoy. Notification mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be resumed, too. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[heads-up] Re: Wiki broken with IE (was: The Newbies CompetenceCenter)
Steven Noels wrote: I'm not on IE, nor have I the huge screen to test this particular condition... I'm working on the Wiki this morning, and I might find something out, but any HTML/CSS enthusiast on the list might give it a go, too. I cannot fathom what is going on, except for IE-weirdness. Could one of you guys check the original layout, on http://www.ecyrd.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp? I've been upgrading IE on my machine and am now experiencing the same problem on my working copy of the new Wiki skin (which is a copy of the latest Forrest skin on http://forrestbot.cocoondev.org/sites/xml-forrest-template/). I've attached a screenshot of the problem - when I hover across the left menu, or when I resize my browser window, the links start to appear... I know some serious HTML buffs are on this list, so could you please step up? ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org inline: ie-problems.png- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [heads-up] Re: Wiki broken with IE (was: The Newbies CompetenceCenter)
Konstantin Piroumian wrote: Sorry, it shoud be read as: You can easily notice that this problem is NOT present on the Forrest site and it looks like a typo or so in CSS. Sure. Now has anyone an idea how to fix it? ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [heads-up] Re: Wiki broken with IE (was: The Newbies CompetenceCenter)
Konstantin Piroumian wrote:
You have a class assigned to menu items (a class=wikipage/a), but
don't have a CSS style for this in the page.css, so I assume that default
a.hover is used, which has font color the same as the menu background.
So, either remove the class from the link or add style like this to the CSS
file:
.menu .wikipage a:hover { color: #FFCC00; text-decoration : none; }
(didn't test it, sorry, I'm too lazy and too busy right now ;) ).
Don't ask me how, but by slightly tweaking the HTML in the left menu I
have a working version on my laptop right now. No need for changing the
(extremely messy) CSS. Will deploy tonight, with some nice little new
things added. The edit page will be skinned now, too, FWIW.
Thanks Konstantin Rob for the motivation for further messing around ;)
I'll try to set up a CVS repo with the JSPWiki skin, so that (hopefully)
others join me in maintaining this messy HTML/CSS/JSP stuff ;-)
(JSPWiki is great, the JSPs are clean too, but somehow using JSP to
generate HTML is giving me the creeps - I wonder why)
/Steven
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Re: Wiki broken with IE (was: The Newbies Competence Center)
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Robert Simmons wrote: Incidentally, I find that when I hit the Wiki page, I don't see half of the left menu until I pass my mouse over the links. IE6 problem? Make your IE-window smaller. The behaviour is affected by the hight of the window, not by the width ... Steven knows already about this. I think he's doing something ... I'm not on IE, nor have I the huge screen to test this particular condition... I'm working on the Wiki this morning, and I might find something out, but any HTML/CSS enthusiast on the list might give it a go, too. I cannot fathom what is going on, except for IE-weirdness. Could one of you guys check the original layout, on http://www.ecyrd.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbies documentation (was: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?)
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: My *personal* conclusions on this: 1.) Instead of shouting against the developers i started writing down my experiences within my company wiki. I did this because i wanted a clear separation from all the masters of the art articles turning up in the cocoon wiki. Besides this some of the points i tackled have to give at least little insight into tomcat and other loosely coupled themes which i didn't want to add to the ever growing cocoon wiki. Hussayn, pardon my insistence, but the idea of starting yet another Cocoon documentation resource is troubling me a bit, especially if that means setting up another Wiki. Given the easy proliferation of Wiki content, people will not know anymore where to submit and retrieve information. Why not start a section within the existing Wiki? I'd be _very_ willing to provide you guys _any_ assistance you might need. And even if the users would insist in having 'their own Wiki' (although I think the existing wiki.cocoondev.org is there for _anybody_), I'd be happy in providing hosting for that under the neutral cocoondev.org domain. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: set up 2nd Wiki in the same domain (parallel to the cocoon-wiki) dedicated to the newbies. this would come close to my thoughts but would not force us to start with work on the infrastructure. instead just deploy JSPWiki a secnd time, use different layout, interlink the two wikis, start ... All feasible and happy to do so, if we have some quorum and some content to host right from the start. My suggestion to go forward: have a look at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/, you'll see I added a very prominent link to an unexisting Main page for this 'NewbiesGuide'. The moment that section grows out of its cocoon, we can very easily migrate content from there to a separate Wiki instance. But first, let's try to get things moving. I will personally spend serious time in helping out the editors in that section, promise! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbies documentation (was: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?)
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: The major point is to remember, that the newbies wiki is a part of the cocoon wiki, independent of the underlaying technology, thus coordinating the content, not the technology. Sure. My bias is that people should not go for hunting information, and that a lot, for various audiences, and from various angles, can be found in one place. Thanks for your cooperation! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbies documentation - requirements?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: some short notes: Cocoon newbie docs requirements: 1) GOAL: create a source of reliable information for Cocoon newbies, along the lines of how to setup Cocoon in 15 minutes and HOWTO setup your intranet with XML in 1 day like that :-) 2) MUST allow users to comment/improve these docs, in wiki mode to make it as easy as possible OK 3) MUST clearly identify these docs as being for beginners and reviewed by an editor of the Cocoon team to prevent beginners from getting lost in obsolete/unreliable docs That might warrant a different Wiki instance for these docs since this breaks the fundamental 'uncategorization-ness' of Wikis... or we would have to hack JSPWiki. A Wiki doesn't know 'sections', or it ain't a true Wiki... 4) SHOULD make these docs and their comments searchable, separately from the technical and/or unchecked existing docs to prevent beginners from being overwhelmed with irrelevant search results. JSPWiki offers a global search (which is a bit broken in the version currently deployed on wiki.cocoondev.org), but I said already that I'll try to fix that ASAP. There's another, invisible issue with the Wiki which I need to fix, but which doesn't prevent normal operations. It only prevents easy upgrades. And nobody like to hack JSPs over here, I assume ;-) 5) MUST allow all wiki docs (these and existing ones) to be searchable simultaneously, to prevent users from having to search in X different places for info. If we really want to be sophisticted, someone might build a webapp with Lucene and have that deployed on search.cocoondev.org, fed with a collection of Cocoon-specific URIs 6) SHOULD be integrated with existing Cocoon community tools to avoid fragmentation of skills and resources (for me it is actually a MUST ;-) Given the success of the existing Wiki, I would seriously recommend against creating a new one, even if it's for a specific purpose. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbies documentation - requirements?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I was thinking more of something driven by metadata, maybe simply adding some name-value pairs at the end of the wiki text, something like: TARGET-AUDIENCE: beginners REVIEWED-BY: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tuesday January 28th, 2003 COCOON-RELEASES: 2.0.1, 2.0.4 Yep, that is what I was thinking about. Janne (the creator of JSPWiki) is quite happy to collaborate, he was even willing to change the license when I asked him: Bruno did a try at building a real Cocoon generator out of the JSPWiki TranslatorReader, but failed since parsing Wiki text is a bit like parsing pre-DTD HTML...: quite difficult to push clean SAX events out of fuzzy stuff. But these issues are there to be fixed, and I'll try to be as supportive as time allows! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma
Hunsberger, Peter wrote: Yes, I saw that. I'm only now catching up with the 280 e-mails I had this morning: that's what I get for being off-line all weekend; new baby girl at home, who has time for computers :-) Congrats! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?
Robert Simmons wrote: Users tell me to go to wiki (which is down allot or just really slow) to find information but its like hunting for an needle in a haystack. This is worrying me. Is that the case? Has anyone experienced performance issues with http://wiki.cocoondev.org/ ? snip/ I guess I'm rambling a bit and I'm sorry. Its just frustrating to spend several hours on something and essentially get nowhere. Cocoon may be a powerful product, but it will never go mainstream in the web, imho, with its level of difficulty in understanding it. ... it seems like you are very opinionated, and should thus be a good contributor to the Cocoon Documentation effort. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?
Robert Simmons wrote: Lastly, flaming is not an option. These are the opinions from a newbie comming into cocoon. Readers of this list can flame all they want but that is just hiding from the very real problems. Robert, I can only give you one advise: don't forget human beings are sitting behind these MUAs. Don't expect everything to be _your_ way the moment you arrive. (ditto for the Jakarta Forums idea). /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma
Robert Simmons wrote: know. The Wiki page runs very slow for me and a tutorial linked to me again: _what_ Wiki are you referring to? If it's http://wiki.cocoondev.org/, please quantify how slow, so that I can get a grip on it. That Wiki is built using plain JSP taglibs, BTW. Nothing to do with Cocoon. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new wiki page CreateMinimalWebapp
Geoff Howard wrote: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CreateMinimalWebapp the server running the wiki diff notifications has gone AWOL yesterday afternoon - going in the office to check what is going on today /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .Net port of Cocoon
Andreas Bednarz wrote: thank you very much for your comment. Yes, it is all true and I am not a friend of MS closed sources in any way. We know Java very well but you hardly get peoply who can do the real thinks with Cocoon and can develop a real application ... not just some test cases and handler forms. In thins case a .NET application would not be easier to handle too, but maybe there is some company who can provide a Cocoon Clone which is as easy to use as PHP. I mean no memory leaks in the VM, no complicated superlong configration files, no VM restarting for debugging etc please keep in mind that the name 'Apache Cocoon' is protected, and that it will be up to the discretion of the Apache Cocoon PMC or the ASF board to let 'other projects' use it. This doesn't say you are not allowed to port, it just says that you would not be able to use the name 'Apache Cocoon' without prior permission. Getting that permission could be tricky, or even more wicked, creating a subproject _inside_ Apache Cocoon to do a .Net port, could be a challenge, largely dependent on the community one could create around such an effort. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wiki update mails
(already announced on cocoon-dev/-docs) The Cocoon Wiki: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/ Hourly Cocoon wiki diff mails are being sent now to the cocoon-docs mailing lists, so people who have a particular interest in Wiki updates should subscribe to that list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Of course, if no pages are touched or created, no mail gets sent. The cocoon-docs lists is pretty low volume - don't be afraid to be subscribe. Here's an archived mail: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-docsm=104333407905612w=2 I'm posting this explicitly here since many wiki contributors appear to be users - something very much appreciated! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Documentation - Forrest Base/Wiki - Plead
e nio wrote: Thanks to those people who had made a valiant effort to make the Documentation more understandable. My plead to you authors is to make these document fit into one viewable page including the left side navigation menu. I do find it very distracting to scroll horizontally right to left back and forth as I easily lost track which line I was on. I am hoping this suggestion is not overly difficult to accomplish. Less motion translate to lesser stress on the arm and avoid that repetitive stress syndrome (carpal tunnel?). What do you think? enio, if you are talking about the Wiki docs, please don't forget you can just hit 'edit page' and correct these accessibility issues yourself! cheers, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANN/OT] xreporter 1.0 release - Avalon/Cocoon-based database reporting
Hi all, yesterday, we've released the 1.0 version of xReporter, our open source Avalon/Cocoon-based database reporting framework, available from http://xreporter.cocoondev.org/ xReporter consists of 2 main components: * an Avalon Phoenix-based query server, which is configured through XML-based report definitions, and is accessible across an XML/HTTP interface * a Cocoon front-end generating configurable HTML, PDF, Excel and CSV renditions of your database reports, thanks to the wonders of FOP, POI and some custom Cocoon drudgery Architectural diagram: http://xreporter.cocoondev.org/en/my-images/architecture.png Most compelling features: - multiple datasources report definitions - user/role-based report authorization, container-based authentication - column filtering sorting, query by example - no programming required to define complex, multistep database reports - optionally using temporary tables - expression language field validation - possibility to access non-SQL, 'Web Services' datasources - fully customizable look feel using CSS and XSLT - flow control using XML and a ReST HTTP interface xReporter is released under an Apache-style license, and we welcome contributions and patches as we try to grow this into a community-owned project. Currently, there is anonymous read-only cvs access and a downloadable tarball. There's a limited, live demo available on the project website, too. We would like to sincerely thank the Avalon Cocoon community for the creation of some wonderful toys to play with, and a great guy (you know who you are) who made all this possible. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The 1822 online bank is using cocoon
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: We saw that the 1822 online bank (http://www.1822direkt.com) is using Cocoon for part of its Web site (example: http://www.1822direkt.com/produkte/cashkonto4.html and follow the link at the bottom). https://www-2.1822direkt.com/cocoon/mia1b/index.html /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon reversing element attributes at output?
Anna Afonchenko wrote: I am writing xsl file that will catch some nodes (according given XPath) and will output these nodes as a string. Here is the code snippet that outputs the matching node: xsl:textlt;/xsl:text xsl:value-of select=concat(name(),' ')/ xsl:for-each select=@* xsl:value-of select=name()/ xsl:text=/xsl:text xsl:value-of select=./ xsl:text /xsl:text /xsl:for-each xsl:textgt;/xsl:text So, if, for example, the node img src=some.gif alt=/ is caught, then it will be output as is. Also, consider the use of an identity template and xsl:copy for such tasks: http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect2/identity.html http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect2/N1930.html /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [warning] Wiki being moved
Steven Noels wrote: I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on http://wiki.cocoondev.org/ I'll quit fussing around for now - did some Forrestizing along the way. I didn't really pay much attention on validity of the generated HTML, and only checked in Moz1.2 and IE6 on W2K. If anyone has big problems reading the Wiki, please let me know. Enjoy, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[warning] Wiki being moved
Hi all, I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp I've temporarily disabled editing facilities on the old location, and will try to set up some decent redirection mechanism once the new one is up running. In case you can't wait, please don't forget to re-set your cookie by 'logging in' before editing. The new site might become temporarily unavailable during the day - but not for long consecutive stretches. Take care, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why cocoon sucks
Kasper Nielsen wrote: For a short synopsis at school I'm looking for points to areas where cocoon and stacking an endlessly number of XSL transformers on top of each other falls short. You know stuff like how difficult it is adding a new attribute to an XML element, and make sure it's copied along in all your 200 stylesheets, compared to how easy it is in languages like java. It would be cool if you did your homework yourself, and post it on the mailinglist or on http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=TheyDontLikeCocoon /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Character Encoding in Cocoon 2 / Postgres
Yves Vindevogel wrote: Hi All, My problem is solved thanks to your help (all of you) Therefore, I'd like to post what I did because I had some mails from people from Italy and Zwitserland with the same problem. This is kind of my help towards them. Good thinking! Now please go and add it to http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=HowTos or http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=FAQs ;-) Cheers, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: oprhan/window control, blind tables, keep-with-next etc
Eddy De Clercq wrote: Hi, I've seen in the archives in the FOP mailing list lots of thread concerning this matter. Is there any news/update on when features like orphan/widow control, keep-with-next will be implemented in FOP and Cocoon? I see you posted your question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] also - FOP is but a library for us, so hopefully you will get an answer over there. If that fails, you politely ping [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon performance tuning
Miles Elam wrote: Lenya L. Khachaturov wrote: Are there any hints on making Cocoon perform better? I've been using Cocoon for a couple of weeks and I can't call it blazing fast :-) As I understood, it's performance greatly depends on the Java compiler and the XSLT processor used. Which compiler and processor would you recommend? As far as I know, Cocoon 2.0.3 uses Pizza and Xalan. Is Jikes and Saxon (or, maybe, XSLTC) a better choice? I also use Resin 2.1.6 and Sun JDK 1.4.0_01 - any recommendations here? http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/performancetips.html Big point is setting log thresholds to ERROR (instead of INFO or DEBUG). This should give an immediate and dramatic performance gain. How about setting these to ERROR by default? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] - Tomcat/Cocoon Performance on Production Sites?
Antonio Gallardo wrote: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/03/1544224 Most useful snippet: Yes, for about a year now (Score:2, Informative) by arthurs_sidekick (41708) on Tuesday December 03, @02:12PM (#4803696) (http://www.theonion.com/) The site in question gets about 60-65K hits/day running in a 2x1.13GHz PIII/1GB RAM running Linux ( 2.4 series) with JDK 1.4 using an Apache front-end for SSL. We run Tomcat 4 and Cocoon 2, making judicious use of caching (we serve pre-transformed HTML pages generated from Docbook XML sources), but every page is dynamically generated. Haven't yet seen anything that makes me think we'll need anything beefier in the near future. ... wich average to 0,75 hits/seconds. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon GetTogehter in Ghent
[forgot cross-posting to users] Matthew Langham wrote: Can we get something set up for discussing 2003? I would like to get a discussion going while the impressions are still fresh! People _seriously_considering_to_actually_work_together_with_me_ on the next edition, please subscribe yourself using [EMAIL PROTECTED] (listname inspired by the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list). Everybody is free to join, etc etc - but joining and doing anything else than lurking comes with a price...: rantI know seriously considering to actually work together with me sounds quite heavy but to be honest, I just experienced the amount of work involved setting up this kind of semi-professional, but budget-wise still manageable event, and I'd rather like fewer people who are really willing to help out but then also are prepared to donate actual time to it (inside normal working hours), rather than lots of volunteers for discussion, ranting and whatelse, but no actual work being carried out. Pretty negative, I know, but that's the experience from also being a steering member of the xmlbelux user group, which conference exhibition tomorrow are attracting only half as many people as our gettogether, even though there was a much bigger working budget. This is partly because of quite a few of us steering members who didn't have real bandwidth when the time was there to do things. Matthew and I did some talking (too little) yesterday, and at least the two of us -who might appear as having a vested commercial interest in this kind of events-, are pretty much convinced that getting bigger would be nice, but that we weren't willing to give up the formula and authenticity of this event for that matter. Hence remaining a free event if at all possible, hence having sponsors to carry the weight of the budget, but still not being prepared for making a commercial event out of it (and I regard ApacheCon as being a commercial event for that matter - with sponsor speaking slots etc etc)./rant Hope this establishes a good working spirit for next year's event. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon GetTogehter in Ghent
Matthew Langham wrote: Hi, I have my pictures from the Cocoon GetTogether up here: http://sunshine.s-und-n.de/events/ghent/index.html A great event and many thanks go out to Steven Noels and the rest of the team for putting on such a great job. See you next year! I'll be slowly preparing a post-mortem site with everything linked and aggregated - this will happen in the next days/weeks (some actual work to do now ;-) For now, please head towards http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/2002/11/20.html#a61 to find links to the image gallery and http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/2002/11/19.html for my rolling blog of that day. Thanks to all who attended, it was fun all the way :-) We'll be baack! ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating compund documents
Derek Hohls wrote: Is such a scenario possible? If so, I would be grateful if someone could explain it to me... Have a look at the cinclude transformer: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/cinclude-transformer.html /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[final reminder] Cocoon GetTogether (19 Nov) registration closing
Hi all, just a final reminder: registrations for the Cocoon GetTogether on the 19th November will be closing next week. The GetTogether is held in Nazareth, near Ghent in Belgium. Apache Cocoon is an XML publishing framework that raises the usage of XML and XSLT technologies for server applications to a new level. Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX processing, Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of concerns between content, logic, and style. To top this all off, Cocoon's centralized configuration system and sophisticated caching help you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server applications. You'll find all pertinent information about the event at http://outerthought.org/cocoon/gettogether/ Already, more than 80 people have registered, so if you are interested to meet and greet fellow Cocoon users or developers, this event is a must-attend. Besides, this event is free thanks to the kind sponsorship of SN AG, X-Hive, Hippo WebWorks and Outerthought. Note to Apachecon attendees: the coincidence with the Apachecon dates is entirely incidental. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XMLForms vs Struts
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Ivelin, I created a new main point in the left menu and called it Cocoon compared. wiki-polizei In order to keep the left Wiki menu as small as possible, I 'moved' the comparison page (which I like) underneath 'Links' /wiki-polizei Hope you don't mind... /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XMLForms vs Struts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven has moved it to Links'. Thank you - I overlooked the already existing point at the links page. oops - you found out already ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus Warning
Peter Sparkes wrote: Sender: Dhiman Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to run XSP ? Contains Virus HTML.Redlof.A reading mail through Mozilla brings much peace to my mind :-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sed or awk generator
Braun wrote: I am using ACDSEE ON WINDOWS with descriptions of the pictures in sequential files. I want to aggreggate the pictures and their description in th xml-stream. The image-directory generator is a good solution but for the images but for the description-file I need some sort of file generator with sed or awk capability. Has anybody a solution ? Chaperon might be what you need: http://chaperon.sourceforge.net/ and http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/howto/chaperon/howto-chaperon-intro.html /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[HEADS UP] interesting Dutch Apache/Cocoon-related conference
Hi all, I was quite pleased finding out the list of speakers gathered by the Dutch XML Users Group for its upcoming XML conference. So if you find the date/location of the Cocoon GetTogether to be cumbersome when coming from the Netherlands, have a look at http://www.sgml-ug.nl/HTML/frame_congres/congres2002/fr_congres2002.htm, more specifically http://www.sgml-ug.nl/HTML/frame_congres/congres2002/02workshop.htm - held on November 13-14th. I'll be doing some Cocoon talk, but you also will be able to meet Dirk Willem van Gulik, ASF board member, and previous XML PMC chair. I hope to do some weblogging at the event - or send a report afterwards. Cheers, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German article on Cocoon Portal and Authentication
Matthew Langham wrote: Why are you going to use 2.0.3? Much of the portal stuff has been moved and renamed in 2.1-dev. I recommend using 2.1-dev if you are starting on your project now. The documentation in Cocoon is also more complete for the current version. Which is unbelievably sad. 2.1-dev is not in a state to be used by Joe User, IMHO. Cfr. all requests for help referring to CVS HEAD checkouts of a specific date. I agree a lot of nice things have been happening in HEAD so far, but maybe we should consider backporting some of them to 2.0.4-in-progress. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon Connection Pooling and Database Shutdown
Berin Loritsch wrote: I've had other people complain to me about the same thing. When you *respond* using Mozilla, what was once a auto-wrapped line is now one long line that goes on forever. In the message composition menu: Options Rewrap. I use it all the time - dunnow if my mails are well received at the other side however. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aggregation of xml in a directory
Alex McLintock wrote: Hi folks, I am trying to figure out how to get Cocoon to display all the xml files in a directory without being explicitly told each of their names in the sitemap. I guess I need a combination of the Directory Generator and the Aggregation tools. Better: combine the DirectoryGenerator with the CInclude Transformer. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File generator problem (fetch from an URI)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Steve, and sorry for my beginner's question. But by me: Here the line that start Tomcat in my startup.bat script: call %_TC_BIN_DIR%\tomcat start %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 hm - what version of tomcat is that? which launch the tomcat.bat script with the parameter start. You speak about a java command but it seems it is in the tomcat.bat script. there should be - perhaps using some JAVA_CMD variable that is defined in the beginning of your batch script Should I modify the tomcat.bat? I would prefer to modify the startup.bat! But what is the command in this case? I have also tried to add a CATALINA_OPTS environment variable with the value -Dhttp.proxyHost=http://proxy.blabla.com -Dhttp.proxyPort=8080 but that doesn't work. Maybe a proxy access problem?!? Have you tried TOMCAT_OPTS? Catalina = Tomcat version 4. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File generator problem (fetch from an URI)
Ilya A. Kriveshko wrote: 1) I don't believe you should specify the protocol when specifying the proxy host. The protocol is implied by the property that you are setting: http.proxyHost. So, try using -Dhttp.proxyHost=proxy.blabla.com (drop the 'http://' part). Sorry if that was obvious. duh - I must remember to read what I'm replying to :-| nice gotcha - the http:// part must be omitted, of course :-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon, sockets and not a web browser.
Mauro Daniel Ardolino wrote: My program can be a stand alone program with Swing or SWT gui interface, or can be a batch program. maybe it's better to simply use the TRAX API and do your own SAX pipelines, or have a look at http://www.apache.org/~andyc/neko/doc/style/index.html...? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Link Livesites:
Litrik De Roy wrote: And it looks like the new Link Livesites that have been sent recently to this list haven't been added yet to that page. (At least the Inventive Designers site is not on the page) How often does that page get updated? Litrik De Roy www.litrik.com not often enough apparently... also, it believe your site hasn't been added to the cocoon_2_0_3_branch which is the current source for the xml.apache.org/cocoon website. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-cocoon2/src/documentation/xdocs/link/livesites.xml?rev=1.1.2.10only_with_tag=cocoon_2_0_3_branchcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Diaña/David: I'll be happy to recommit the site when Cocoon CVS cocoon_2_0_3_branch is up to date. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File generator problem (fetch from an URI)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run Cocoon in my machine and it is behind a firewall. I use a proxy server to connect to internet. Is it a connection problem? Yup - you should set -Dhttp.proxyHost and http.proxyPort in your Tomcat startup script http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/networking/urls/_setProxy.html see Firewall problems on http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/faq.html /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File generator problem (fetch from an URI)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have add this line: set -Dhttp.proxyHost=http://proxy.blabla.com -Dhttp.proxyPort=8080 to the startup script, just before the tomcat start. But it doesn't work. Are there anything else to configure? you should add those as arguments to the java command in your tomcat startup script, or as a CATALINA_OPTS/TOMCAT_OPTS environment variable set CATALINA_OPTS=-Dhttp.proxyHost=http://proxy.blabla.com -Dhttp.proxyPort=8080 /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File generator problem (fetch from an URI)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you mean about the java command in the tomcat startup script? I assume you run Tomcat using some startup script (batch file), %CATALINA_HOME%\bin\startup.bat comes with the distribution. That script starts a Java application, where you can set an HTTP proxy using commandline parameters (-Dhttp.proxyPort etc...) They made it easy to add those parameters since you can also store them in an environment variable called CATALINA_OPTS, which is added to the line in the %CATALINA_HOME%\bin\startup.bat that starts Tomcat: %_STARTJAVA% %CATALINA_OPTS% -Dcatalina.base=%CATALINA_BASE% -Dcatalina.home=%CATALINA_HOME% org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 start OK now? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing kweelt
Aditya Shevchenko Siregar wrote: Hi. I'm new to this stuff. I have just installed Tomcat 3.3, Cocoon 2.0.3, and Kweelt today. I want to be able to query my XML database using Kweelt. The Kweelt readme says that I have to modify the cocoon.properties. How can I do that because the file is inside a jar and everytime I modify it inside WinZip it duplicates itself. And where should I put the kweelt.jar, rt.jar, regex.jar? Is it ini the tomcat's lib/apps or lib/common dir? And if I want to transform XML to HTML, isn't the new IE 6 equipped with bulit-in transformer so the XML is automatically transformed? If so, what is the use of cocoon in this matter? Kweelt is very old and uses Cocoon 1.8.2 - which is even older. Apart from what is listed on http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/, there's no good chance finding Cocoon1 advice anymore. If you are serious about XML searching, have a look at http://www.w3.org/XML/Query#products /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem
Sonny Sukumar wrote: If anyone can help me out with my original Hello World question, I would REALLY appreciate it..I want to get this to work sooo much. I have trouble understanding your problem, too. Could you give us a dirlisting of $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon - assuming you have deployed Cocoon over there? The error message you get is a Tomcat one, I guess, so maybe the Cocoon context isn't properly set up. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem
Sonny Sukumar wrote: The problem *is* a Cocoon problem. The Tomcat servlet engine works just fine and Cocoon runs on it, but I can't get this Hello World example to work. I also don't understand why the other Cocoon pages still come up after I deleted ALL the other stuff inside the map:pipelines tag other than my map:pipeline for the Hello World example that generates from helloworld.xml, transforms with helloworld2html.xsl and serializes the output. Does it make sense now? If I need to clarify anything at all or paste some things from my first email, please let me know and I will gladly do so. It does make sense and indeed it seems like your changed sitemap isn't loaded. Did you clean out the 'work' directory of Tomcat when restarting - not that this should be the problem, but one never knows. Also, adding a error-handling section in your pipeline configuration might provide you with some useful info: ... map:handle-errors map:transform src=stylesheets/error2html.xsl/ map:serialize/ /map:handle-errors /map:pipeline Another idea: switching to the (interpreting instead of compiling) treeprocessor, by swapping it with the normal sitemap engine configation with sitemap logger=sitemap/ Oh, BTW, it's not that you are editing the wrong sitemap file (.bak)? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem
Sonny Sukumar wrote: I switched treeprocessor by commenting out one sitemap tag and uncommenting the other one in cocoon.xconf. no huuray however? Btw, what is stored in Tomcat's work directory? This might sound like a dumb question to you, but I'm still on Hello World. :-) using the (default) compiled sitemap processor, the java classes that implement your sitemap (which are generated using xslt from your sitemap.xmap - don't ask ;-) are created there and compiled many people have experienced already that for some mysterious reasons, getting rid of these java sources/compiled classes sometimes does help Likewise, I haven't done anything with error handling, so if you feel this is something important that I should do here and now to diagnose the problem, I humbly ask for a small explanation so I can understand what's going on. For example, what XML source does the error2html.xsl file in your sample code operate on? not exactly a 'source', but a built-in error generator that provides the error2html.xsl stylesheet with an XML representation of the exception/stacktrace Lastly, I know for a fact I'm editing sitemap.xmap and not the sitemap.xmap.bak file I created to simply backup the original sitemap.xmap file before I started playing around with it. But it is good of you to point out. :-) I could as well try ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem
Sonny Sukumar wrote: HOWEVER: Cocoon now recognizes the URI when I navigate to http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld, but it is nothing but a blank page. This started happening after switching the sitemap tag, and this behavior is still there after deleting the contents of $TOMCAT_HOME/work. I guess this is a step forward though. Any idea why I could be getting a blank page? If not, then I guess I'll have try that error handling stuff eh? I'm scared. :-/ You shouldn't ;-) Two choices now: dig in the log files ($COCOON_HOME/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) or have that error handling stuff set up. But I'm off to bed soon now :-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem
Sonny Sukumar wrote: I cleared out error.log and accessed http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld again and there's no errors that are logged. The page just comes up blank. When I click on View Source, the document source is COMPLETELY empty. Should I be using something other than serialize/? I just copied the example straight from the book. Damn, my bad. So finally, I copied your code into files and fed that through Cocoon. Hm... org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: a pseudo attribute name is expected on my error page and in my logs... What could this be...? Load up your helloworld.xml in an XML editor, press validate and tada, typo found: ?xml version=1.0? ^ Yup, that stupid - didn't had anything to do with Cocoon. Do you have your error page up running now? The error message isn't particularly helpful (plain wrong in this case), but at least you get a feeling where to look at. OK now? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[conference] Cocoon GetTogether | Belgium | 2002-11-19
Cocoon GetTogether - 2002-11-19 - Belgium http://outerthought.org/cocoon/gettogether/ I am pleased to announce the first edition of the Apache Cocoon GetTogether, a one-day event for both Cocoon developers and users to exchange information and discuss the further evolution of Apache Cocoon. We are very happy to receive a cast of well-known Cocoon experts, which we are sure will offer you news and information right from the horse's mouth. Apache Cocoon is an XML publishing framework that raises the usage of XML and XSLT technologies for server applications to a new level. Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX processing, Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of concerns between content, logic, and style. To top this all off, Cocoon's centralized configuration system and sophisticated caching help you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server applications. More information about Apache Cocoon at http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/. The event is to be held on November 19th 2002 near Ghent in Belgium - more information, detailed agenda and speakers list are available from http://outerthought.org/cocoon/gettogether/ This event will be free of charge, but registration is required. Caveat: this is *not* an official ASF event - it is organized and sponsored by Outerthought - the Java, XML and Open Source Competence Center. Best regards, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stylesheet selection by doctype?
Steven Noels wrote: Ben Young wrote: Is it possible to set up a sitemap that will select a different stylesheet according to the XML Schema or doctype used in the content file? It is already done, I'll commit it on Monday or when the kids allow during the weekend ;-) Done. Kudos to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for implementing this. http://outerthought.net/forrest/cap.html http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/xml-forrest/src/scratchpad/src/java/org/apache/forrest/components/sourcetype/ ps: it requires the addition of nekopull.jar to your Cocoon classpath! (http://www.apache.org/~andyc/neko/doc/pull/) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stylesheet selection by doctype?
On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, J.Pietschmann wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ben Young wrote: Is it possible to set up a sitemap that will select a different stylesheet according to the XML Schema or doctype used in the content file? No way that I'm aware of. There is some talk on forrest-dev to implement exactly this. It is already done, I'll commit it on Monday or when the kids allow during the weekend ;-) /Steven - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mark your calendars] Cocoon GetTogether / Belgium - 2002-11-19
Dear all, Outerthought is happy to announce its one-year anniversary, and is hosting a Cocoon/Forrest-related event on November 19th 2002 to celebrate this. In the 'morning' (10AM-2:30PM), we will host an informal Cocoon Users and Developers get-together with a couple of presentations, in the afternoon (3PM-5PM) we would like to introduce you to XReporter, our Avalon- and Cocoon-based datawarehouse reporting framework. Drinks will be served afterwards. More news will be posted when it becomes available, but you can send us an e-mail if you want to be informed of any updates. The event will be held near Ghent, Belgium and be free of charge. I will put up a webpage with some event information - but here's already your opportunity to mark the date in your agenda ;-) Companies interested in sponsoring the morning event can contact me. People who want to showcase their development work using Cocoon are invited to send us a presentation outline. Kind regards, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The order of the atributes can help developers
Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: I think it can help better if the attribute name of the components will be the first declared attribute in the sitemap. Of course if it exists ;). Attribute order is irrelevant in an XML document - it is up to the application if the order is preserved. IIRC, Xalan sorts attributes alfabetically. For general sitemap editing woes, maybe have a look at http://pollo.sf.net/ - a general-purpose XML editor that comes with a configuration for Cocoon sitemap editing and some entry helpers for that purpose. Regards, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The order of the atributes can help developers
Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: El Martes, 03 de Septiembre de 2002 13:30, Steven Noels escribió: Attribute order is irrelevant in an XML document - it is up to the application if the order is preserved. IIRC, Xalan sorts attributes alfabetically. I know that. But for the programmers can be better. I thinked in a recommendation or etiquette nothing more. Not to rewrite the SAX specification. ;) The wonderful world of interpreting W3C specifications :-) In what way do you see preserving or fixing attribute order being 'better', except for presentation purposes? For general sitemap editing woes, maybe have a look at http://pollo.sf.net/ - a general-purpose XML editor that comes with a configuration for Cocoon sitemap editing and some entry helpers for that purpose. I know pollo too. But I feel it still in a beta release. I am currently coding with jEdit and the XML Tree Plug-in. In a Pollo display specification, you can specify the attributes that should be shown on the element and the order in which they should appear. But that's view-only, I believe, since the attribute editing pane operates on the DOM, where the order is so-called irrelevant and thus Pollo shows them ... alfabetically. Ha! :-) Pollo is by no means beta-quality, it's just sub-ambitious with regards to its version numbering scheme ;-) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PERFORMANCE - attributes vs. elements
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a basic XML/XSLT question and is an old debate. I would like to know if using attributes as opposed to elements within XML will speed up its transformation using XSLT? I have a 3MB XML file which is transformed by my XSLT into HTML using Cocoon. I have a few tags in the XML file which could be tucked away as an attribute of its parent element. I hit upon them while I was trying to search every nook and corner for improving the performance. Right now it sucks. Please let me know if anybody has some tips tricks for improving performance, kind of do's and dont's. You really should look into the internals of the XSLT engine implementation you are using with Cocoon, then (being Xalan, XSLTC or Saxon) - but I don't offer you high hopes that switching between atts and elems will make much of a difference. I seriously doubt so. Maybe you can post your XSLT stylesheet for some peer review. There are many other ways to improve execution speed of XSLT. Also, I consider your post to be slightly off-topic, there exists a *very* helpfull XSLT-centric mailing list at http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list - with all the true XSLT gurus reading and answering such queries. HTH, /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
