Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[Charlene Mitchell]

Hi,

Well, I don't know if quoting the book breaches
copyright :-) but here is what it says (p.301) about
XSP which discouraged me:

"In earlier versions of Cocoon, XSP was the only
alternative for  dynamic content"
"...with Cocoon's current architectureXSP is
losing some of [its] interest"
"...XSP has some disadvantages...the skill required to
use XSP is greater"
"For production environments, XSP is not the best
solution when it comes to performance"
"As a default, it does not support the caching
algorithm"
"compiling the XSP is rather slow"
etc etc

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that because of
this the answer is necessarily JSP, but for example if
I have a web-page which has only one drop down list of
dynamic data it is far quicker to write a JSP,
debugging is easier, it is far more maintainable and I
can give the task to less technical people.

For all these reasons I switched from XSP to JSP and
productivity rocketed.

Is the JSP-Generater really added for legacy stuff?
Can someone confirm? If so what is the new solution
because it surely can't be XSP!

Charlene

 --- leo leonid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 02:43 PM, Charlene
> Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, I have XSP's working as well, but they aren't
> > very performant and usage seem to be discouraged
> in
> > Carsten's book.
> >
> 
> I have not read the book yet, but this is very hard
> to believe!
> On the contrary, I think the JSP-Generater is added
> for legacy stuff 
> only.
> 
> Anyway, you're right, I don't use JSP, and if there
> is a problem with 
> Jetty/JSP I missed it.
> sorry I could't help you.
> /L
> 
> > But JSP's deffo do -not- workand I have yet to
> > hear otherwise.
> >
> > My workaround was to deploy org.apache.jasper.jar
> and
> > servlet.jar into WEB-INF/lib but I haven't dared
> see
> > if this will impact on a deployment in TomCat
> >
> > Charlene
> >
> >  --- Jordi_Valldaura_i_Riqué
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote: > Hello,
> >>
> >> I've tried cocoon 2.0.3 and cocoon 2.0.4 on
> >> jboss/jbossweb(jetty), and
> >> it works. But I've only tried xsps.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Charlene Mitchell wrote:
> >>> Sorry, I forgot to quantify.
> >>>
> >>> JSP in Cocoon deployed in Jetty does not work -
> >>> everything else does work (AFAIK), but JSP's do
> >> not.
> >>>
> >>> So, unless you use JSP's you can easily be
> misled
> >> unto
> >>> thinking that everything works fine - but it
> >> doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> Charlene
> >>>
> >>>  --- leo leonid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> >>>
>  I can't confirm this. I used all C2.0.x
> versions
>  with Jetty without
>  problems. Apart from this known redirection
> >> problem,
>  that Nicola
>  pointed out to be probably a Jetty bug.
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103926206004897&w=2
> >>>
>  The simple workaround is to put a leading slash
> to
>  your redirect url.
> 
>  What exactly is the problem?
> 
>  /Leo
> 
> 
>  On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:04 AM,
> >> Charlene
>  Mitchell wrote:
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3
> does
> 
>  not
> 
> > work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am
> >> not
> > going mad.
> >
> > Anyone else searching the groups with the same
> 
>  problem
> 
> > can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the
> 
>  title
> 
> > "JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.
> >
> > HTH someone in the future
> >
> > Charlene
> >
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >
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Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[leo leonid]

On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 02:43 PM, Charlene Mitchell wrote:


Hi,

Yes, I have XSP's working as well, but they aren't
very performant and usage seem to be discouraged in
Carsten's book.



I have not read the book yet, but this is very hard to believe!
On the contrary, I think the JSP-Generater is added for legacy stuff 
only.

Anyway, you're right, I don't use JSP, and if there is a problem with 
Jetty/JSP I missed it.
sorry I could't help you.
/L

But JSP's deffo do -not- workand I have yet to
hear otherwise.

My workaround was to deploy org.apache.jasper.jar and
servlet.jar into WEB-INF/lib but I haven't dared see
if this will impact on a deployment in TomCat

Charlene

 --- Jordi_Valldaura_i_Riqué <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Hello,


I've tried cocoon 2.0.3 and cocoon 2.0.4 on
jboss/jbossweb(jetty), and
it works. But I've only tried xsps.



Charlene Mitchell wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to quantify.

JSP in Cocoon deployed in Jetty does not work -
everything else does work (AFAIK), but JSP's do

not.


So, unless you use JSP's you can easily be misled

unto

thinking that everything works fine - but it

doesn't.


Charlene

 --- leo leonid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >


I can't confirm this. I used all C2.0.x versions
with Jetty without
problems. Apart from this known redirection

problem,

that Nicola
pointed out to be probably a Jetty bug.







http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103926206004897&w=2



The simple workaround is to put a leading slash to
your redirect url.

What exactly is the problem?

/Leo


On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:04 AM,

Charlene

Mitchell wrote:



Hi,

The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does


not


work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am

not

going mad.

Anyone else searching the groups with the same


problem


can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the


title


"JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.

HTH someone in the future

Charlene










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Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[Charlene Mitchell]

Hi,

Yes, I have XSP's working as well, but they aren't
very performant and usage seem to be discouraged in
Carsten's book.

But JSP's deffo do -not- workand I have yet to
hear otherwise.

My workaround was to deploy org.apache.jasper.jar and
servlet.jar into WEB-INF/lib but I haven't dared see
if this will impact on a deployment in TomCat

Charlene

 --- Jordi_Valldaura_i_Riqué <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Hello,
> 
> I've tried cocoon 2.0.3 and cocoon 2.0.4 on
> jboss/jbossweb(jetty), and 
> it works. But I've only tried xsps.
> 
> 
> 
> Charlene Mitchell wrote:
> > Sorry, I forgot to quantify.
> > 
> > JSP in Cocoon deployed in Jetty does not work -
> > everything else does work (AFAIK), but JSP's do
> not.
> > 
> > So, unless you use JSP's you can easily be misled
> unto
> > thinking that everything works fine - but it
> doesn't.
> > 
> > Charlene
> > 
> >  --- leo leonid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> > 
> >>I can't confirm this. I used all C2.0.x versions
> >>with Jetty without 
> >>problems. Apart from this known redirection
> problem,
> >>that Nicola 
> >>pointed out to be probably a Jetty bug.
> >>
> > 
> >
>
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103926206004897&w=2
> > 
> >>The simple workaround is to put a leading slash to
> >>your redirect url.
> >>
> >>What exactly is the problem?
> >>
> >>/Leo
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:04 AM,
> Charlene
> >>Mitchell wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am
> not
> >>>going mad.
> >>>
> >>>Anyone else searching the groups with the same
> >>
> >>problem
> >>
> >>>can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the
> >>
> >>title
> >>
> >>>"JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.
> >>>
> >>>HTH someone in the future
> >>>
> >>>Charlene
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[Jordi Valldaura i Riqué]

Hello,

I've tried cocoon 2.0.3 and cocoon 2.0.4 on jboss/jbossweb(jetty), and 
it works. But I've only tried xsps.



Charlene Mitchell wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to quantify.

JSP in Cocoon deployed in Jetty does not work -
everything else does work (AFAIK), but JSP's do not.

So, unless you use JSP's you can easily be misled unto
thinking that everything works fine - but it doesn't.

Charlene

 --- leo leonid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 

I can't confirm this. I used all C2.0.x versions
with Jetty without 
problems. Apart from this known redirection problem,
that Nicola 
pointed out to be probably a Jetty bug.


http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103926206004897&w=2


The simple workaround is to put a leading slash to
your redirect url.

What exactly is the problem?

/Leo


On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:04 AM, Charlene
Mitchell wrote:



Hi,

The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does


not


work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am not
going mad.

Anyone else searching the groups with the same


problem


can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the


title


"JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.

HTH someone in the future

Charlene






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Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[Charlene Mitchell]

Sorry, I forgot to quantify.

JSP in Cocoon deployed in Jetty does not work -
everything else does work (AFAIK), but JSP's do not.

So, unless you use JSP's you can easily be misled unto
thinking that everything works fine - but it doesn't.

Charlene

 --- leo leonid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> I can't confirm this. I used all C2.0.x versions
> with Jetty without 
> problems. Apart from this known redirection problem,
> that Nicola 
> pointed out to be probably a Jetty bug.
>
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103926206004897&w=2
> The simple workaround is to put a leading slash to
> your redirect url.
> 
> What exactly is the problem?
> 
> /Leo
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:04 AM, Charlene
> Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does
> not
> > work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am not
> > going mad.
> >
> > Anyone else searching the groups with the same
> problem
> > can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the
> title
> > "JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.
> >
> > HTH someone in the future
> >
> > Charlene
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[leo leonid]

I can't confirm this. I used all C2.0.x versions with Jetty without 
problems. Apart from this known redirection problem, that Nicola 
pointed out to be probably a Jetty bug.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103926206004897&w=2
The simple workaround is to put a leading slash to your redirect url.

What exactly is the problem?

/Leo


On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:04 AM, Charlene Mitchell wrote:

Hi,

The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does not
work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am not
going mad.

Anyone else searching the groups with the same problem
can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the title
"JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.

HTH someone in the future

Charlene




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Re: Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert]

I'm running JBoss 3.0.4/JBossWeb, and it was by far the easiest install 
of cocoon 2.1dev I've done so far.

Cheers,
Thor HW

On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 12:04  AM, Charlene Mitchell wrote:

Hi,

The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does not
work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am not
going mad.

Anyone else searching the groups with the same problem
can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the title
"JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.

HTH someone in the future

Charlene



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Cocoon deffo does not work in Jetty

[Charlene Mitchell]

Hi,

The Jetty guys confirmed that Cocoon 2.0.3 does not
work in Jetty (JBoss 3.0.3/JBossWeb) - so I am not
going mad.

Anyone else searching the groups with the same problem
can follow the thread on YahooGroups under the title
"JSP Engine" in the group 'jetty-support'.

HTH someone in the future

Charlene



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