Re: Looking for a complete, integrated, open source, enterprise CRUD sample application with Ajax
Thanks. Those sound great. I am very language agnostic. So I just want to go with the language that has the most market share for the best reasons and then learn it if I don't already know it. My background is Microsoft Access with VBA, so I'm more than happy to learn something new, just as long as it can keep me employed on interesting web projects. It's probably the idea of Access putting an entire database application into a single file that made me post this question in the first place. I have also used Java with semi-proprietary stacks, but that really doesn't make Java my preference. This is the first I've heard of Amazon EC2 or VMWare. The concept sounds great but my only reservation is that I haven't heard of them until now. I'll give the rails installer a shot just because I've heard a lot about that. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:07 PM, J Aaron Farr fa...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Dan frandan...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we just copy it and skip the setup process and the time of figuring out best practices on our own? Thanks for any thoughts about this. Also if this is the wrong forum for this question, please direct me to the right one. Ruby on Rails has something like this: http://railsinstaller.org/ I've seen similar projects for various LAMP stack configurations. The trouble tends to be that they get outdated or are very particular to a specific stack and thus don't have a wide audience. Personally, I like the approach of having Amazon EC2 images or VMWare images available, with everything preconfigured and ready to go. There are a few of these out there. -- J. Aaron // 傑仁 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Looking for a complete, integrated, open source, enterprise CRUD sample application with Ajax
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 20 Jun 2011, at 05:57, Dan frandan...@gmail.com wrote: This may perhaps seem like a tall order but bear with me here... Does anyone know where I can get a complete sample application that's really complete. Yes, that's a tall order, especially when you haven't specified a language and what you want it to do. There are a great many open source applications out there, but if you've really looked but not found then you are probably looking for something specific. There are projects for ecommerce, CMS, CRM... and pretty much any function you want. In most cases you will fund different proje ts in different languages. But not here at the ASF, most of our projects are infrastructure and framework projects (although we do have OfBiz, which is an ERP system). Rosa I mean as if a real life functioning enterprise the likes of Google just zipped up their whole open-source production and development hard drives and made it all available for people to download, unzip, and run... mysql database, bug tracking system, build system, version control, connection pooling services, web server, app server, javascript libraries, internationalization resources, configured IDE, etc. etc. All of everything configured and wrapped up in a single installer ready to go with just a few changes to IP addresses and passwords. From that we could just change things to build our own first app. I've tried getting started with a bunch of different open source application stacks and I always get stuck. And every time it happens I wonder why I can't just copy someone's entire web development drive. It's open-source and it's just ones and zeroes. Why can't we just copy it and skip the setup process and the time of figuring out best practices on our own? Thanks for any thoughts about this. Also if this is the wrong forum for this question, please direct me to the right one.
Re: Looking for a complete, integrated, open source, enterprise CRUD sample application with Ajax
There's a couple of things being mixed in here. * Development Environment * Application Stack For the development environment, if the project is open source, there's Google Code, and so forth. There's also all-on-tools like Trac that you can install on your own server, or subscription cloud-based environments like JIRA Studio. For the application stack, Matt Raible used to have something like what you describe, called AppFuse, but I don't know if he still maintains it. * http://raibledesigns.com Though, my honest advice is that you are looking for all this to be virtually ready-to-run and supported, then think about going over to the .NET side, or even something like Ruby on Rails. You are right in that we are mired in choice, and even a .NET or RoR environment is a long way from being plug and play. A project like you describe would be a Good Thing for someone who had the itch, but it would be a non-trivial project unto itself. -Ted. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Dan frandan...@gmail.com wrote: This may perhaps seem like a tall order but bear with me here... Does anyone know where I can get a complete sample application that's really complete. I mean as if a real life functioning enterprise the likes of Google just zipped up their whole open-source production and development hard drives and made it all available for people to download, unzip, and run... mysql database, bug tracking system, build system, version control, connection pooling services, web server, app server, javascript libraries, internationalization resources, configured IDE, etc. etc. All of everything configured and wrapped up in a single installer ready to go with just a few changes to IP addresses and passwords. From that we could just change things to build our own first app. I've tried getting started with a bunch of different open source application stacks and I always get stuck. And every time it happens I wonder why I can't just copy someone's entire web development drive. It's open-source and it's just ones and zeroes. Why can't we just copy it and skip the setup process and the time of figuring out best practices on our own? Thanks for any thoughts about this. Also if this is the wrong forum for this question, please direct me to the right one. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Looking for a complete, integrated, open source, enterprise CRUD sample application with Ajax
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Dan frandan...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we just copy it and skip the setup process and the time of figuring out best practices on our own? Thanks for any thoughts about this. Also if this is the wrong forum for this question, please direct me to the right one. Ruby on Rails has something like this: http://railsinstaller.org/ I've seen similar projects for various LAMP stack configurations. The trouble tends to be that they get outdated or are very particular to a specific stack and thus don't have a wide audience. Personally, I like the approach of having Amazon EC2 images or VMWare images available, with everything preconfigured and ready to go. There are a few of these out there. -- J. Aaron // 傑仁 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
