Re: No Camera???
The situation where you absolutely need the camera is after you've been involved in a traffic collision. Hopefully you'll be able to use it. I use it for far more than just this sort of thing .. its an info- gathering device. Instead of typing in someones business card, for example, I just take a picture of it and chuck it away .. my contacts database is full of pictures of various things that are related to the contact .. digital cameras are not just a 'pleasure' or 'art' tool, they have a very broad set of highly 'obvious' applications, and for an info-gathering tool such as OpenMoko is becoming, it really does seem pointless not to have video capture on board. But if there were some way we could at least get digital image capture happening over bluetooth, this would be moot - I already carry around a Sony Ericsson phone with me, and if I could at least transfer the photo's easily from that phone to the neo1973, it'd be quite handy. Pun intended. j. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No Camera???
I do tech support for phones and I assure that there are many people who don't care about cameras. I knpw because they say exactly that I don't need a camera. Wait until someone actually writes some good applications that use the camera as more than just a holiday-fun activity capture device. For example, I'd love to use the GTA03 as a mouse. This is entirely feasible if it has a camera onboard. ;) j. I can't say that Neo is for non techies. An open source linux based phone where you can compile your own kernel and can get a JTAG adapter for flashing ... for non techies? This is the developer stage, obviously. There's no point for me to be spending so much effort being involved with the developer stage of this phone project, if there isn't at least some promise that on the horizon, OpenMoko will be available to consumers as a platform. I envision that all the effort I'm putting into writing apps for OpenMoko will prove worthwhile, once there are people who can buy OpenMoko-based phones freely on the open market, plug in my feed address, and subscribe to my applications. This would be an awesome relationship, in my opinion, between me (the developer) and (hopefully) thousands of users. If there isn't at least a promise of this on the horizon, there is no point hacking around with OpenMoko - I can get my Linux hacker fix on with plenty of other more viable platforms, in the meantime. Such as for example, the GP2X gaming platform, which shares a lot of similarities with the OpenMoko ethos, even though the users:developers ratio is a lot higher in that realm. I would encourage anyone on this list right now to remember that this is supposed to be the developer-stage ramp-up towards a possible more consumer-oriented future. Please, OpenMoko people, plan to bring products to the market that are *not* so developer focused in the very near future. I would love to have a few thousand normal users plugged into my application feeds, and not just for the fun of it. A fully open source phone is a provider's nightmare. That does not mean they won't sell to users, but it does mean that providers won't buy them to sell to you, not unless they can erase the flash image, provide their own, prevent the JTAG access, and many other things ... All of these tasks can quite easily be wrapped up in a consumer- friendly package, without intruding on any network-provider realities. The fact is that the OpenMoko-based phones are quite functional devices - once people see that there are applications beyond-the-box for the handy they are enslaved by, things will change. I can think of tons of applications for OpenMoko, also, that are not just limited to network-provider metrics; I, for one, would love to see these applications become more broadly acceptable, and thats not going to happen without a little developer investment and faith, no matter what the status quo currently provides, that there will be users one day able to buy hardware to run the cool pocket apps of the future. Such as we are seeing right now with the developer-stages of OpenMoko.. j. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia flash image update
Wow! With qtopia I can actually use my neo! Battery life sucks, but oh well.. One thing tho - I cant play mp3s it says media type not supported..any ideas as to why or where to look for a more specific error message? wavs are fine, but mp3s dont work ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia flash image update
Wow! With qtopia I can actually use my neo! Battery life sucks, but oh well.. One thing tho - I cant play mp3s it says media type not supported..any ideas as to why or where to look for a more specific error message? wavs are fine, but mp3s dont work ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No Camera???
I just want to remind everybody about that Neo is one project and OpenMoko is another. Saying that, I have to give FIC a lot of credit for coorperating, but this doesn't mean that another vendor isn't allowed to make phone with a camera. Who knows, maybe there'll be two, three, or maybe four different phones later on. Regards, Mikkel Meyer Andersen Jay Vaughan skrev: I do tech support for phones and I assure that there are many people who don't care about cameras. I knpw because they say exactly that I don't need a camera. Wait until someone actually writes some good applications that use the camera as more than just a holiday-fun activity capture device. For example, I'd love to use the GTA03 as a mouse. This is entirely feasible if it has a camera onboard. ;) j. I can't say that Neo is for non techies. An open source linux based phone where you can compile your own kernel and can get a JTAG adapter for flashing ... for non techies? This is the developer stage, obviously. There's no point for me to be spending so much effort being involved with the developer stage of this phone project, if there isn't at least some promise that on the horizon, OpenMoko will be available to consumers as a platform. I envision that all the effort I'm putting into writing apps for OpenMoko will prove worthwhile, once there are people who can buy OpenMoko-based phones freely on the open market, plug in my feed address, and subscribe to my applications. This would be an awesome relationship, in my opinion, between me (the developer) and (hopefully) thousands of users. If there isn't at least a promise of this on the horizon, there is no point hacking around with OpenMoko - I can get my Linux hacker fix on with plenty of other more viable platforms, in the meantime. Such as for example, the GP2X gaming platform, which shares a lot of similarities with the OpenMoko ethos, even though the users:developers ratio is a lot higher in that realm. I would encourage anyone on this list right now to remember that this is supposed to be the developer-stage ramp-up towards a possible more consumer-oriented future. Please, OpenMoko people, plan to bring products to the market that are *not* so developer focused in the very near future. I would love to have a few thousand normal users plugged into my application feeds, and not just for the fun of it. A fully open source phone is a provider's nightmare. That does not mean they won't sell to users, but it does mean that providers won't buy them to sell to you, not unless they can erase the flash image, provide their own, prevent the JTAG access, and many other things ... All of these tasks can quite easily be wrapped up in a consumer-friendly package, without intruding on any network-provider realities. The fact is that the OpenMoko-based phones are quite functional devices - once people see that there are applications beyond-the-box for the handy they are enslaved by, things will change. I can think of tons of applications for OpenMoko, also, that are not just limited to network-provider metrics; I, for one, would love to see these applications become more broadly acceptable, and thats not going to happen without a little developer investment and faith, no matter what the status quo currently provides, that there will be users one day able to buy hardware to run the cool pocket apps of the future. Such as we are seeing right now with the developer-stages of OpenMoko.. j. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: still having trouble getting Neo to boot Qtopia from SD
I tried pretty much exactly the steps you described but I can't get booting from SD card to work, neither for Qtopia not for OpenMoko I must be missing something. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD seems to suggest that you need to use a specially prepared kernel. Is this so? Any ideas what else could be the problem? Unfortunately the Neo resets so fast when trying to boot from SD that I can't really read what's going on. Ortwin On 9/27/07, Piotr Duda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ian douglas pisze: [...] So Piotr, could you maybe please post your bash_history for us to see what exactly you did, to get this going? I'd be happy to edit the wiki page for Qtopia on the Neo for booting from SD if I can just get this going -- but experimentation is just frustrating when others obviously have already tried Qtopia on the Neo. Thanks, Ian I have repeated all the steps once again, and below is everything I had to do (as I wrote earlier, I didn't have to add uboot menu). I have verified that both Qtopia from SDcard and Openmoko from nand memory are booting. Still don't have working sound in Qtopia and no time to play with it now. Please notice that I used kernel not from Qtopia site, but most recent I have downloaded for Openmoko. [root: ~] # modprobe mmc_block [root: ~] # modprobe mmc_core [root: ~] # modprobe sdhci [root: ~] # [root: ~] # ls -l /dev/mmcblk0* brw-r- 1 root disk 252, 0 wrz 27 20:08 /dev/mmcblk0 brw-r- 1 root disk 252, 1 wrz 27 20:08 /dev/mmcblk0p1 [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p1 mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Etykieta systemu plików= Typ OS: Linux Rozmiar bloku=1024 (log=0) Rozmiar fragmentu=1024 (log=0) 123952 i-węzłów, 495460 bloków 24773 bloków (5.00%) zarezerwowanych dla superużytkownika Pierwszy blok danych=1 Maksymalna liczba bloków systemu plików=67633152 61 grup bloków 8192 bloków w grupie, 8192 fragmentów w grupie 2032 i-węzłów w grupie Kopie zapasowe superbloku zapisane w blokach: 8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729, 204801, 221185, 401409 Zapis tablicy i-węzłów: zakończono Tworzenie kroniki (8192 bloków): wykonano Zapis superbloków i podsumowania systemu plików: wykonano Ten system plików będzie automatycznie sprawdzany co każde 33 montowań lub co 180 dni, zależnie co nastąpi pierwsze. Można to zmienić poprzez tune2fs -c lub -i. [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # ls -l /media/card/ razem 12 drwx-- 2 root root 12288 wrz 27 20:17 lost+found [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # tar -C /media/card/ -xzf Download/ficgta01- qtopia-developer-rootfs.tgz [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # ls /media/card/ bin boot dev etc home lib lost+found media mnt opt proc sbin sys tmp usr var [root: ~] # [root: ~] # ls /media/card/boot/ zImage [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # cp Download/uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin/media/card/boot/ [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # cd /media/card/boot/ [root: /media/card/boot] # ls -l razem 1608 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1637614 wrz 27 20:29 uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 wrz 27 20:27 zImage - zImage-2.6.21.6-moko11 [root: /media/card/boot] # ln -s uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.binuImage [root: /media/card/boot] # [root: /media/card/boot] # [root: /media/card/boot] # [root: /media/card/boot] # ls -l razem 1608 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 wrz 27 20:30 uImage - uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1637614 wrz 27 20:29 uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 wrz 27 20:27 zImage - zImage-2.6.21.6-moko11 [root: /media/card/boot] # [root: /media/card/boot] # [root: /media/card/boot] # [root: /media/card/boot] # cd [root: ~] # [root: ~] # [root: ~] # umount /media/card [root: ~] # [root: ~] # and that's it... Piotr P.S. sorry for output in polish, but it is nothing important... good luck ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia flash image update
With the latest build from http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ I can unlock the phone after inputting my PIN two times but it doesn't want to register with the network. Also, the phone is very unresponsive and only registers touch screen input every once in a while. Sounds like this might be related: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=499forum=4Guess I'll have to try the ssh thing when I put the next build on my Neo but it would really help if a terminal app was included in Qtopia... Ortwin On 10/2/07, Heilpern, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm seeing the same problems with the new Qtopia image. The device comes up locked (with no apparent way to unlock it) -- the touch screen controls flash so I know they're registering, but the screen doesn't go to the unlock screen. The bottom left soft menu is unlock, but touching the screen there doesn't register at all. Holding in the power button for a moment provides the restart/shutdown menu. Selecting shutdown device puts the clock icon on screen but doesn't go beyond that. Instead, it appears that the phone has crashed hard; only removal of the battery gets results from here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andy selby Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:42 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: qtopia flash image update On 02/10/2007, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have uploaded a Qtopia snapshot version flash image for the Neo. a few Known issues: * suspend/resume not fully working. must restart Qtopia to get modem working again. * inputmethod covers some widgets (bluetooth settings) * no modem mux (no gprs) * no mms support (no wap stack integrated) * bluetooth audio not tested on Neo yet, probably needs work. Err.. how about the software is locked as default and shutdown the device doesn't work? but I'm sure the rest of the software is good, keep up the good work. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community NOTE: The information in this message is intended for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. To the extent the recipient(s) is/are bound by a non-disclosure agreement, or other agreement that contains an obligation of confidentiality, with AuthenTec, then this message and/or any attachments shall be considered confidential information and subject to the confidentiality terms of that agreement. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient named above, you are notified that you have received this document in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please delete the original message and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. AuthenTec, Inc. http://www.authentec.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Right-click (as opposed to left-click)
Hi, I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of course!), but it's kind of hard to win with-out being able to right-click. Does anyone know how to perform such an exotic action? Regards, Mikkel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?
Lorn Potter skrev: Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: Hi! Is it possible to have both Qtopia and OM environments on one phone? One could be able to chooses system on startup (such as grub or lilo chooses Linux or Windows ;). That would be useful - you could use Qtopia env as a phone during day but at night you could reboot to OM and start hacking ;) No need to boot two systems. The way I originally ported Qtopia to the neo was putting Qtopia on the sd, symlinking /opt/Qtopia to that, stopping gsmd and all the x-server, and running the qtopia startup script. This probably could be a choice at init time, or some 'app' in Neo/Qtopia that does this. Is there any documentation on this? A wikipage or something. This is how I want to try/use Qtopia. Don't know any of OpenMokos init system (yet, my GTA01 is on the way ;-), but something equal to switching run level to switch forth and back between OpenMoko ui and Qtopia ui would be perfect! /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?
Hi, Take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_Neo_1973 / Mikkel Lars Hallberg skrev: Lorn Potter skrev: Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: Hi! Is it possible to have both Qtopia and OM environments on one phone? One could be able to chooses system on startup (such as grub or lilo chooses Linux or Windows ;). That would be useful - you could use Qtopia env as a phone during day but at night you could reboot to OM and start hacking ;) No need to boot two systems. The way I originally ported Qtopia to the neo was putting Qtopia on the sd, symlinking /opt/Qtopia to that, stopping gsmd and all the x-server, and running the qtopia startup script. This probably could be a choice at init time, or some 'app' in Neo/Qtopia that does this. Is there any documentation on this? A wikipage or something. This is how I want to try/use Qtopia. Don't know any of OpenMokos init system (yet, my GTA01 is on the way ;-), but something equal to switching run level to switch forth and back between OpenMoko ui and Qtopia ui would be perfect! /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Right-click (as opposed to left-click)
On my old Treo, you could press the stylus on a square, and drag up to flag it, or drag left to clear a flag. Dunno if the OM version of the game does that though. If not, it'd be handy if it did. -id Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: Hi, I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of course!), but it's kind of hard to win with-out being able to right-click. Does anyone know how to perform such an exotic action? Regards, Mikkel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Right-click (as opposed to left-click)
Hi, Cheers for the tip, but I also mean in general. It would be nice to could widen the functionality so that different clicks can be made. Maybe just through an icon in the panel (this should work as a setting so that the type click could be selected by activating that specific panel-item). Well, still gonna check you tip later for that specific game :-). / Mikkel ian douglas skrev: On my old Treo, you could press the stylus on a square, and drag up to flag it, or drag left to clear a flag. Dunno if the OM version of the game does that though. If not, it'd be handy if it did. -id Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: Hi, I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of course!), but it's kind of hard to win with-out being able to right-click. Does anyone know how to perform such an exotic action? Regards, Mikkel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Right-click (as opposed to left-click)
Right click could be emulated by pressing and holding AUX and then tapping. Of course that means that other AUX button functionality could only be activated after releasing the button without touching the screen. Native apps should never need right clicking, though. It would only be useful for fast ports. Ortwin On 10/7/07, Mikkel Meyer Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Cheers for the tip, but I also mean in general. It would be nice to could widen the functionality so that different clicks can be made. Maybe just through an icon in the panel (this should work as a setting so that the type click could be selected by activating that specific panel-item). Well, still gonna check you tip later for that specific game :-). / Mikkel ian douglas skrev: On my old Treo, you could press the stylus on a square, and drag up to flag it, or drag left to clear a flag. Dunno if the OM version of the game does that though. If not, it'd be handy if it did. -id Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: Hi, I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of course!), but it's kind of hard to win with-out being able to right-click. Does anyone know how to perform such an exotic action? Regards, Mikkel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Right-click (as opposed to left-click)
Hi, Thanks, but it doesn't work here. No problem, though, so need to use more time on it. / Mikkel Ortwin Regel skrev: Right click could be emulated by pressing and holding AUX and then tapping. Of course that means that other AUX button functionality could only be activated after releasing the button without touching the screen. Native apps should never need right clicking, though. It would only be useful for fast ports. Ortwin On 10/7/07, *Mikkel Meyer Andersen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Cheers for the tip, but I also mean in general. It would be nice to could widen the functionality so that different clicks can be made. Maybe just through an icon in the panel (this should work as a setting so that the type click could be selected by activating that specific panel-item). Well, still gonna check you tip later for that specific game :-). / Mikkel ian douglas skrev: On my old Treo, you could press the stylus on a square, and drag up to flag it, or drag left to clear a flag. Dunno if the OM version of the game does that though. If not, it'd be handy if it did. -id Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: Hi, I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of course!), but it's kind of hard to win with-out being able to right-click. Does anyone know how to perform such an exotic action? Regards, Mikkel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
dfu-util only gives Permission Denied
Hello, This is my first entry after receiving my OpenMoko kit this friday. This is also my first time using a Linux Computer to do anything real, so please forgive me if my questions are naive and simple =) So I have my new Ubuntu computer up and running and I wanted to start flashing the Neo phone just get a feel for it before attacking the development environment. I downloaded the dfu-util software and moved it to /bin for convenience. Now everytime I try try to run dfu-util I get a Permission Denied error. I have tried using sudo dfu-util --help as well as using sudo su - to be a root user but i get only Permission Denied. Now I get the feeling that I don't have the required Linux skills to solve this myself, hence this question to this list. does anyone have a good answer to this ? /Pepe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu-util only gives Permission Denied
Hi, Just type sudo dfu-util ... and enter you password when promted :-) / Mikkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Hello, This is my first entry after receiving my OpenMoko kit this friday. This is also my first time using a Linux Computer to do anything real, so please forgive me if my questions are naive and simple =) So I have my new Ubuntu computer up and running and I wanted to start flashing the Neo phone just get a feel for it before attacking the development environment. I downloaded the dfu-util software and moved it to /bin for convenience. Now everytime I try try to run dfu-util I get a Permission Denied error. I have tried using sudo dfu-util --help as well as using sudo su - to be a root user but i get only Permission Denied. Now I get the feeling that I don't have the required Linux skills to solve this myself, hence this question to this list. does anyone have a good answer to this ? /Pepe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu-util only gives Permission Denied
Am Sonntag 07 Oktober 2007 18:32:26 schrieb Mikkel Meyer Andersen: Hi, Just type sudo dfu-util ... and enter you password when promted :-) / Mikkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Hello, This is my first entry after receiving my OpenMoko kit this friday. This is also my first time using a Linux Computer to do anything real, so please forgive me if my questions are naive and simple =) So I have my new Ubuntu computer up and running and I wanted to start flashing the Neo phone just get a feel for it before attacking the development environment. I downloaded the dfu-util software and moved it to /bin for convenience. Now everytime I try try to run dfu-util I get a Permission Denied error. I have tried using sudo dfu-util --help as well as using sudo su - to be a root user but i get only Permission Denied. Now I get the feeling that I don't have the required Linux skills to solve this myself, hence this question to this list. does anyone have a good answer to this ? /Pepe You have to set the right permissions for /bin/dfu-util. Do sudo chmod +x /bin/dfu-util to do so, then it's executable. Greetings and congratulations for your Neo ;) Fabian ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: still having trouble getting Neo to boot Qtopia from SD
Ortwin Regel pisze: I tried pretty much exactly the steps you described but I can't get booting from SD card to work, neither for Qtopia not for OpenMoko I must be missing something. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD seems to suggest that you need to use a specially prepared kernel. Is this so? Any ideas what else could be the problem? Unfortunately the Neo resets so fast when trying to boot from SD that I can't really read what's going on. Ortwin Have no idea, how to help you... I have used kernel uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin file, I have downloaded from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/... so I didnt have to modify or/and compile anything... Piotr ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Small menu bar
The maemo OS 2007 has two menus, one for finger and one for stylus, somehow it can detect(I suppose bigger surface diameter) whether a stylus or a finger is used, the finger menu then is much bigger, very handy! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia flash image update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! With qtopia I can actually use my neo! Battery life sucks, but oh well.. One thing tho - I cant play mp3s it says media type not supported..any ideas as to why or where to look for a more specific error message? wavs are fine, but mp3s dont work Thats because mp3 codecs are patented and licensed. In the case of Trolltech's flash images, we don't have a license to distribute this particular codec. I have been working on gstreamer for Qtopia, so you will soon be able to install whatever gstreamer codecs are available. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Right-click (as opposed to left-click)
I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of course!), but it's kind of hard to win with-out being able to right-click. Does anyone know how to perform such an exotic action? In Windows Mobile Windows XP Tablet, you can emulate right click by holding down the stylus for 0.5 secs. Sounds like a bodge but I found it quite usable. winmail.dat___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
