Re: GPS problems, summary
Hi, I am running the kernel from yesterday (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin). Is the fix included in it or do I have to do anything else to get the software fix? Katrin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-problems%2C-summary-tp532037p581965.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiances purchasing and using a neo fr in australia?
0n Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:27:20PM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Yes. both work fine. Qtopia is developed here in Brisbane. :) heh, well I'll be dam'd. -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Terminal for ASU
I will reply over the weekend. -Sean Yorick Moko wrote: the unabomber would know what to do! :) No, seriously: enough openmoko-members read these mails. It seems unimaginable that none of the design team has seen this thread. It's about time they spoke up or that someone at openmoko (Steve, Michael, Neng-Yu Tu ?) gave us some more info about the design departement and how they implement the openeness of the project there (no offence meant). Because it seems they are pretty closed to the community, but this is just an impression and I might be wrong and would like to see me proven wrong). y On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Jul 2008, at 08:30, arne anka wrote: If you've been mismanaged/micromanaged so badly that you've had to adopt what Neitzche called the Sklavmoral-- or I'm not paid to think, I'm well, nietzsche told a lot of stuff and ended up in the funny farm in due time ... and if his own morale was that much better than sklavenmoral is up to discusssion. anyway, what raster tries to say, imho, is: do not bother _him_ with your criticism but the designers themselves -- saying he's only the programmer makes imo sufficiently clear that he's not teh one to make that decistions and as he wrote before his opinion is not taken in account. so, if you want to have it changed, bother the design department. I did mean to reply to one of Carsten's earlier (yesterday) messages and say I'm not having a go at you personally, mate. But it is in order to badger the design department that we're posting to -community on the subject. We don't seem to have contact details for the design department and with Carsten washing his hands of the matter (apparently justifiably) Openmoko seem to be ignoring the subject. How else can we get Openmoko to take our opinions into account, other than to post here? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Purchasing Neo Freerunner in the UK
Just thought I would add another voice of support for TrueBox, excellent service! One point to note is that they aren't too happy about shipping to an alternative address, for fraud prevention reasons. I did managed to persuade them to ship to my work place after a couple of exchanges. I am sick of having couriers leave expensive items under the door mat! Can't help with the O2 question. I'm using a rather old (~4yrs) Orange SIM card and it is working just fine. Craig Ross Woodruff wrote: Hope this is the right mailing list to ask this but I am just wondering where people in the UK purchased their FreeRunners from. I'm thinking of getting one in the near future and just wondering if anybody has used the TrueBox distributor or if you bought yours elsewhere, perhaps somewhere else in Europe... I'd just like to see which would be the best place for me to purchase a FreeRunner if there is anywhere else that ships to the UK and will work on a UK phone network (I'm on O2). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Purchasing-Neo-Freerunner-in-the-UK-tp580798p582004.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtopia] roaming - manual selection not working
Bug opened http://www.trolltech.com/developer/task-tracker bug n° 220697 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 16:44, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try in the settings-Call Networks to Select operator, it fails (Failed to register to the selected network operator). Same error when I just try to switch mode from Automatic to Manual, on either of these 2 networks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS problems, summary
it is included On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Katrin Tomanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am running the kernel from yesterday (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin). Is the fix included in it or do I have to do anything else to get the software fix? Katrin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-problems%2C-summary-tp532037p581965.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which distribution to use on FR?
are you sure the ASU is fast? maybe it's because i'm running it from SD, but the ASU is everything but fast here. There is even a slight delay when typing in numbers in the dialer... Qtopia seemed far more faster to me. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 01:10:05PM -0700, Katrin Tomanek wrote: Hi, I am new to OM and just received my new FR a couple of hours ago. I've been playing around with different distributions/images and am now wondering which distribution you guys prefer, use, and/or recommend: - OM2007.2 - ASU - FSO - Qtopia Actually, I tried all of the above ones (most recent versions/snapshots) except FSO. Only for OM2007.2, making phone calls worked out of the box. On ASU and Qtopia I couldn't make phone calls (or receive). Optically, I likes OM2007.2 best, however, it is awfully slow and constantly has a load 2. Why is this? I use the ASU image. It has the speed/reliability/maturity/app-availability of the Qtopia platform, and also supports GTK/Gnome/X applications too. And, ASU development is being funded by OpenMoko, and it will be their official shipping distribution, another reason to expect it will be the more stable and feature-full of the distros. -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Public build host (proposal)
If you are running Ubuntu you could try out: http://andreasdalsgaard.blogspot.com/2008/07/openmoko-development-in-5-minutes.html If you experience any problems please drop me a mail. 2008/7/24 Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marek Lindner wrote: Hi, since it seems to be extremely difficult to build software for the OpenMoko on my home machine, perhaps it would be usefull if someone (within OpenMoko?) would set up a globally reachable build host with an openembedded and toolchain environment on it. could you describe what kind of problems you experience ? The only way to improve the situation is by naming the issues at hand. :-) Marek I have yet to get a single application to build on my Ubuntu machine. Everything I've tried ends up missing some library or other and the instructions for adding libraries not in the toolchain are totally unclear to me. (Also, it seems like some extremely basic libraries are not in the toolchain, so that makes no sense to me either.) Finally, there was discussion on this list, in another thread, I think, that much of the toolchain's .la files still refer to gta01 or neo1973 directories and that this causes a lot of problems. I'm not sure if that's what is causing my issues or something else, but I'll echo what another list member said: One would think that a working toolchain would be a priority. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Max seep of the SD slot?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I've upgraded to the current kernel. TTFF-issue is solved by the last | kernel-patch. Congratulations! | | Now I'm testing the inteferences while accessing data from the sd-card. | On the current default clock of 16MHz I see heavy GPS-signal breach-ins | in a pulsing manner, if I do some continuous access with 'dd' to the | card. If I stop dd the perception signal stabilizes. Okay, this was to | expect. | | According to the statement below, the clock rate on the SD-card side is | far above the effective data-rate on the CPU side. We do 16MHz on one | and something around 2MHz on the other. That makes no sense to me. | What about fixing the rate on the sd-card side to far lower level, not | only while ideling, even if accessing? Lets say 5MHz. Would it make any | sense and would it decrase the clock noise significally enough, to be | able to just ignore the hardware patch? It's not a crazy way to look at it, but the latencies add together currently. So we have to sit it out while the Glamo independently grabs the bulk data from the card, then when it completes we get an interrupt and basically memcpy it to the requested place. So we delay the overall action by slowing the SD clock. It's worth a try using sd_max_clk if you can see the effect of SD traffic on GPS still. | I haven't found the file to place any permanent kernel opts yet, to test | this. No grub, no lilo :-) thats beyond my knowledge about the FR | booting internals. Any hints? Kernel commandline lives in the twilight world of U-Boot environment. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiJjBwACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpe0QCgjYbDV2kCTQ+j4kwDZJ9/KOLY rNEAnRaLpkkpVHpqemSWg3jrK8+3GFN0 =EYsI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Hi raster, If this fork of this is how Carlsten and many others here thinks ilumme has to be ever is created count with a tester/user/brerly developer. I like ASU a lot but this fuzzy, not argued nor defended design desitions made for people that prefer to not to discuss it in public is a little bit against my idea of open/free. The paranoid part of my mind has wishpererd something to the rational part and toghether are talking about the posibity this mindless hidding features already done policy is to educate the interested in ASU to know how is done at code level forcing them to hack it to make it usable and finally when the official ASU will be unmantained because the volunteers and payed rebel developers are workin in a awesome fork , the fork will become the official... Is what happen when reason doesn't find arguments to understand something, paranoia arrise. Keep on working raster, your willing to understand and satisfy the user is the main reason I still have seeing posibilities to the ASU initiative. El vie, 25-07-2008 a las 12:27 +1000, Carsten Haitzler escribió: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:01:47 -0700 Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: directly in. the idea is that full-qwerty is for terminal junkies or those with a stylus and who that would be me. many more than just you... if my observation is not totally off (i actually read/listen to a lot more than i reply to, so i hope in many ways to just absorb what people want... and make mental notes of it.). i can definitely see why you want it (note - even if you want something - i might not always agree... but i will always discuss it as it may be that you THINK you want X but in reality you really want Y, and have just arrived at the wrong conclusion of wanting X - and if Y were implemented it'd give you the functionality of X... but as i said - i'll always make it clear that i'm trying to give you what you want... just trying to give it to you in a way that is better :) And, probably, I'd guess a lot of people who would shell out twice the price of an iPhone, just because it runs Linux, would also be very, very likely to be a terminal junkie. no surprise here.. though the iphone is not 1/2 the price. last i checked its about 2-3 times the price... if you buy it unlocked - which is comparing apples to apples... (no pun intended). remember at that 1/2 price tag you are paying the iphone off over 2 years of contract - and the actual price is much more. :) dictionary to use (as i have read here - people seem to want to be able to select language for dictionary and layouts - often separately). Sounds great. as i said... i'm doing my own thing anyway... but it wont be in ASU - it'll be some fork or hidden code features u'll need to go hacking at. regular english (or german, french etc.), and still maintain a small footprint. Very nice feature! Would help a lot, kind of like bash completion. Keystrokes on a touchscreen could really benefit from this. hmm. right now the dictionary code doesnt know completion - it just does matching. but fuzzy matching - or in theory. that means you need to type the WHOLE word - u cant just complete (doing completion in addition to fuzzy matching is a lot more expensive lookup-wise so i'm simplifying the expense of the fuzzy dict matching by not doing completions - i can go into detail why completions WITH fuzzy matching are not likely to be viable... but if you trust me - it saves me explaining... :) ) qtopia's keyboard layout is hard-coded into the keyboard. no files to go edit. Auuughhh!!! OK, my phone is once again a brick. It's funny how it goes from being a great device to being more or less useless at least once every two days... this is normal for a product under heavy development. But it is also frustrating. :( The hard-coded QPE keyboard that has replaced Illume has no control key. No ALT key. No up or down arrows either. And the keyboard layout is hard-coded, which seems fatally limiting. How will users who don't speak English use it if there are no .kbd files? indeed it has none of these keys. The text-editable .kbd files approach was a *great* idea. As was the qwerty button (which I was able to bring back thanks to someone posting a file with it), and the pop-up for picking different keyboard types, etc... all stuff that delighted this user and has been summarily removed. :) thanks :) What packages do I need to hack, and how, to bring the Illume keyboard-- the one with the configurable .kbd files-- back again? Or, is the QPE keyboard going to get this text-editable keyboard layout functionality soon (and, how soon)? illume is what u want top hack.. and its 1 line of code in: e_mod_win.c // FIXME: run kbd app or
Re: Which distribution to use on FR?
So, I have to live with the fact that OM2007.2 is very slow? Or is there anything I can do about it (in terms of configuration). please, elaborate your definition/experience of slow. the worst in terms of slow i experience is either shortly after a resume or that sometimes one needs to tap several times until the tap is recogniced and an action performed (another case for an exit button like the gpe-apps have). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which distribution to use on FR?
slow = framerate is set at 10fps, and when opening the configuration tab screen gets all jittery, you kow, like someone copy-pasted the same text over and over again, but each time a few pixels more to the bottom of the screen. Another example I already stated, when dialing a number, there is a delay between the moment i press the number and when it appears on screen. I am hower running an from the sd card and running an image that is a few days old (I learned today that i had to edit the /etc/opkg folder to get opkg to work with the asu). On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:29 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I have to live with the fact that OM2007.2 is very slow? Or is there anything I can do about it (in terms of configuration). please, elaborate your definition/experience of slow. the worst in terms of slow i experience is either shortly after a resume or that sometimes one needs to tap several times until the tap is recogniced and an action performed (another case for an exit button like the gpe-apps have). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which distribution to use on FR?
slow = framerate is set at 10fps, and when opening the configuration tab screen gets all jittery, you kow, like someone copy-pasted i had that experience once after playing around w/ mplayer. I am hower running an from the sd card would think it possible that, because sd card is connected to the glamo, this is the root cause. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
i got a 4 gig card too (can't say if from intenso, have to check the wrapping). my card's boot sector is not erased but -- after a resume the card is mounted wrongly! fstab says as mountpoint /media/card and after booting that's where the card is. after suspend/resume the card (often) is mounted to /media/mmcblk1p1 instead -- thus every attempt to read from or write to the sd card goes to the built-in memory instead. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which distribution to use on FR?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slow = framerate is set at 10fps, and when opening the configuration tab screen gets all jittery, you kow, like someone copy-pasted i had that experience once after playing around w/ mplayer. I am hower running an from the sd card would think it possible that, because sd card is connected to the glamo, this is the root cause. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community after doing a opkg-round on the house I find it much smoother it is very doable now, even from SD only the green rectangle that moves from right to left and left to right at the loading and shutting down screen still stutters now i'm going to dig through a thousand mails about that keyboard to get it working :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
On Friday 25 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: What about checking hal at startup (then subsequently monitoring hal events) to see if a device with input.keyboard in its info.capabilities list exists or is added/removed? I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). i guess hal could be he go... need to check. not sure what all the keyboards will turn up as... or if there is aleady one faked... not sure. need to look into it... when i get to it :) Without keyboard: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hal-find-by-capability --capability input.keyboard /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_s3c2440_i2c_logicaldev_input /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_neo1973_button_0_logicaldev_input After connecting the bluetooth keyboard (hidd --search) I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hal-find-by-capability --capability input.keyboard /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_a12_1_noserial_if0_bluetooth_hci_bluetooth_hci_logicaldev_input /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_s3c2440_i2c_logicaldev_input /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_neo1973_button_0_logicaldev_input After disconnecting bt kbd (hidd --killall) it reverts to the first result. I haven't made a USB adaptor for host mode yet so no USB keyboard results. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was the mention on the bug report Jeff linked to in the ASU keyboard thread that we should be using the packages from downloads.openmoko.org that put me on the right track, after that it was just a matter of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories there and update the opkg feed configs. Thanks for sharing. This is _very_ useful. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simarillion wrote: Thank you, it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only the letters? Do I need an additional package? Drag your finger upwards (or downwards) and you'll cycle through the layouts (lower case, upper case, symbols, numbers). I just wanted to say that now that the ASU / Qtopia whatever keyboard is working again I find it quite usable. left drag for backspace also works now, I don't know why it didn't before. and right drag is enter. up drag is changing pane (layout / keys) and down drag changes in the other direction. Very nice! I can even use the keyboard with my fingers now! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i got a 4 gig card too (can't say if from intenso, have to check the | wrapping). | my card's boot sector is not erased but -- after a resume the card is | mounted wrongly! | | fstab says as mountpoint /media/card and after booting that's where the | card is. | after suspend/resume the card (often) is mounted to /media/mmcblk1p1 | instead -- thus every attempt to read from or write to the sd card goes to | the built-in memory instead. This is definitely the signature of the old MMC resume problems, not anything else. I am deep down that mine at the minute, this is getting intensely looked at. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiJn8YACgkQOjLpvpq7dMonOACfTUfolw3wMrey+x51IwF/zl4W MxsAnjIkOZu9PLLGPZEX6L4l7a1g6x2d =vnNT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gpsd not in ASU repository?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Christopher White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not necessary in ASU. I disagree - gpsd or somethin like it is required no matter which package you run on your FreeRunner. Why? So that several applications cn get the gps data at the same time. The Diversity app works without any gpsd. How? does it read directly from the tty? Enabled the GPS antenna using Exposure, then Ah. Exposure dosn't start here, not even after I upgraded my ASU image with opkg from http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t 4. Configuration / Preferences? TangoGPS seems to have a lot more options for things. Diversity lacks tracking, AFAICT. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
This is definitely the signature of the old MMC resume problems, not anything else. oh, ok. thought it to be related to the wiped out boot sector and thus maybe helpful. I am deep down that mine at the minute, this is getting intensely looked at. is there a workaround for the time being? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was the mention on the bug report Jeff linked to in the ASU keyboard thread that we should be using the packages from downloads.openmoko.org that put me on the right track, after that it was just a matter of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories there and update the opkg feed configs. Thanks for sharing. This is _very_ useful. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community i'm using a fully up-to-date ASU, but exposure wont load is this normal? i've never been able to load it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Max seep of the SD slot?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:49, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, a good rule of thumb for generic 1-bit transfer is divide by 10 for the max speed in Bytes/sec you could expect, here we have 4-bit so the peak raw trasfer speed is ~10MBytes/sec *BUT* after Glamo pulls the data from the card, we have to sit there dragging it into the CPU memory, on top of card latencies and command setup the speed is way slower, still a decent ~2MBytes/sec each way IIRC. - -Andy Thanks. This is something I also wanted to know for the choice of a new card. So we may say that up to 10MBytes/s, max speed of the microSD matters. After it should not much. (?) (and looks like 10Mbytes/s is currently what offer rather high end microSD) One more question though : if the card is slow, throughput will be lower, but will the CPU / glamo graphic bus be able to benefit of more resources while the card transfer occur ? Or does it just had to time to wait and CPU / glamo bus are as much busy (or waiting) ? Same question if we lower the SD clock rate. Is it equivalent to having a slower card ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:06:15AM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Will a USB FrogPad even work ? -aW There are images on the wiki of someone successfully using a frogpad with Debian on the Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/27/Debian%2Bfrogpad.jpg so it should certainly be possible to get working. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Michael Sheldon wrote: Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:06:15AM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Will a USB FrogPad even work ? -aW There are images on the wiki of someone successfully using a frogpad with Debian on the Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/27/Debian%2Bfrogpad.jpg so it should certainly be possible to get working. Oops, sorry my mistake, that's a bluetooth frogpad. But I would guess the usb version presents itself as a normal usb keyboard. Cheersm Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:33:50AM +0200, David Samblas wrote: Hi raster, If this fork of this is how Carlsten and many others here thinks ilumme has to be ever is created count with a tester/user/brerly developer. I like ASU a lot but this fuzzy, not argued nor defended design desitions made for people that prefer to not to discuss it in public is a little bit against my idea of open/free. The paranoid part of my mind has wishpererd something to the rational part and toghether are talking about the posibity this mindless hidding features already done policy is to educate the interested in ASU to know how is done at code level forcing them to hack it to make it usable and finally when the official ASU will be unmantained because the volunteers and payed rebel developers are workin in a awesome fork , the fork will become the official... Is what happen when reason doesn't find arguments to understand something, paranoia arrise. Keep on working raster, your willing to understand and satisfy the user is the main reason I still have seeing posibilities to the ASU initiative. There's no need for paranoia. That #ifdef makes it seem to me like there's going to be a menu item in Exposure to let the user pick which keyboard to use, but there's no code yet to implement that configuration choice. That'd be the right way to do it IMHO-- let the user switch between keyboards on the fly-- no recompiling necessary. That's the kind of configurability that a product manager or designer would put into a spec, for example, and I'd agree with it. As for implementing it, does Carsten want help? Maybe the Qtopia API makes it easy to add preferences/settings and to query some system-wide database for them (I don't know Qtopia, so I'm just saying it *might*). In the best case, our woes might be solved with 5-10 lines of Qtopia API code replacing that #ifdef, plus some adding of options to the configuration system. If that's what's going on, then all this anguish would simply be another case of too many users trying to actually *use* a product that isn't anywhere near ready to be actually used yet (I'm guilty of that for sure). -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Max seep of the SD slot?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:49, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Well, a good rule of thumb for generic 1-bit transfer is divide by 10 | for the max speed in Bytes/sec you could expect, here we have 4-bit so | the peak raw trasfer speed is ~10MBytes/sec *BUT* after Glamo pulls the | data from the card, we have to sit there dragging it into the CPU | memory, on top of card latencies and command setup the speed is way | slower, still a decent ~2MBytes/sec each way IIRC. | | - -Andy | | | Thanks. | | This is something I also wanted to know for the choice of a new card. | | So we may say that up to 10MBytes/s, max speed of the microSD matters. | After it should not much. (?) | (and looks like 10Mbytes/s is currently what offer rather high end microSD) The MCI / MMC stack in Linux negotiates the clock speed with the card, all the microSD cards I saw say they can handle 16MHz and that's what they get. We can't sustain the actual throughput that implies right now, although soon we might be able to get a little better in the driver. | One more question though : if the card is slow, throughput will be | lower, but will the CPU / glamo graphic bus be able to benefit of more | resources while the card transfer occur ? | Or does it just had to time to wait and CPU / glamo bus are as much | busy (or waiting) ? Have to make clear what we mean by slow, it means latency to NAND inside card as I understand it. So every time you ask for some data it is slower to start sending it and chokes more often waiting on getting next block from NAND. --- | Same question if we lower the SD clock rate. Is it equivalent to | having a slower card ? If it's slow at the card it will block Glamo memory less (probably... arbitrator in Glamo might mess that assumption up) and definitely block the CPU bus less. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiJrHgACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqLWwCfUyta7nEdXK5JXOdEkMYAoJBz 5dMAoJPdUCGq0xBpbDRCoDLp2wkR6EOT =k1zT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Oops, sorry my mistake, that's a bluetooth frogpad. But I would guess the usb version presents itself as a normal usb keyboard. My Apple Wireless BT keyboard works great with the Freerunner! Very nice combination! ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | This is definitely the signature of the old MMC resume problems, not | anything else. | | oh, ok. thought it to be related to the wiped out boot sector and thus | maybe helpful. It can be related, I expect the trashed block 0 thing is also suspend-related only. | I am deep down that mine at the minute, this is getting intensely looked | at. | | is there a workaround for the time being? Not that I know of. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiJrMsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMot8wCfXb8MuDMypvOB9u/wFNxtjkp6 n/gAn3HE4ZZ7BhlTbgeK5krC1ppHBQaM =Pyiu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Freerunner User - Stick with GTK Any voicemail apps or monitors?
Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: Two questions: A) If part of my goal is to be a beta tester should I stick with the default software stack or switch to one of the other options? Use daily builds from: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/ B) Are there any applications out there for managing or monitoring a voicemail account? Not yet. There is a LOT of people who want VoIP, and they trying to run some of programs available for Linux. regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Purchasing Neo Freerunner in the UK
Hi Ross, I work for Oxford Archaeology, we're startign to distribute FreeRunners to various people for the purposes of encouraging development and general community good will. I've recently been told that our prices are less than other resellers too! Drop me an email if you'd like a FreeRunner from us. Best regards, Joseph http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/ 2008/7/24 Ross Woodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hope this is the right mailing list to ask this but I am just wondering where people in the UK purchased their FreeRunners from. I'm thinking of getting one in the near future and just wondering if anybody has used the TrueBox distributor or if you bought yours elsewhere, perhaps somewhere else in Europe... I'd just like to see which would be the best place for me to purchase a FreeRunner if there is anywhere else that ships to the UK and will work on a UK phone network (I'm on O2). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which distribution to use on FR?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:44:21AM +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: are you sure the ASU is fast? maybe it's because i'm running it from SD, but the ASU is everything but fast here. There is even a slight delay when typing in numbers in the dialer... Qtopia seemed far more faster to me. It seems faster to me than the 2007.02 image. Maybe some of the apps are more tightly-written. But screen displays are slow, and loading an app takes forever no matter which distro. I'd imagine that any distro that doesn't use X (i.e. Qtopia on FrameBuffer) would be much faster. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 01:10:05PM -0700, Katrin Tomanek wrote: Hi, I am new to OM and just received my new FR a couple of hours ago. I've been playing around with different distributions/images and am now wondering which distribution you guys prefer, use, and/or recommend: - OM2007.2 - ASU - FSO - Qtopia Actually, I tried all of the above ones (most recent versions/snapshots) except FSO. Only for OM2007.2, making phone calls worked out of the box. On ASU and Qtopia I couldn't make phone calls (or receive). Optically, I likes OM2007.2 best, however, it is awfully slow and constantly has a load 2. Why is this? I use the ASU image. It has the speed/reliability/maturity/app-availability of the Qtopia platform, and also supports GTK/Gnome/X applications too. And, ASU development is being funded by OpenMoko, and it will be their official shipping distribution, another reason to expect it will be the more stable and feature-full of the distros. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm using a fully up-to-date ASU, but exposure wont load is this normal? i've never been able to load it I am alos now using a fully up to date ASU, thaks to Michael's instructions. No, Exposure won't start here either. Doing a 'ps ax | more' I suddenly see this: 1336 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe It looks the same after a restart. HmmI wonder if this is related? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ASU updated - qpe not working?
Hello, I have just upgraded to the most updated ASU, by pointing opkg at http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ using Michael Sheldon's instructions from another thread in this list. I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) But when I do 'ps ax | more' I see this: 1345 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe Huh? How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in /etc/init.d -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) Oops... red - red battery indicator. :) How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in /etc/init.d When I try to restart qpe manually, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 qpe ficgta01hardware plugin Modem : opening serial device /dev/ttySAC0 at 115200 Modem : Device: /dev/ttySAC0 is a tty device: True Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Modem : Opened /dev/ttySAC0 AtChat : T : AT+CMUX=0,0,5,31 Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : Multiplexing has been disabled. AtChat : T : AT+CGMI Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : No modem vendor plug-in found - using default AtChat : T : AT+CBC QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask To me, it looks like something is wrong here. But it could just be me. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) Oops... red - red battery indicator. :) How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in /etc/init.d When I try to restart qpe manually, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 qpe ficgta01hardware plugin Modem : opening serial device /dev/ttySAC0 at 115200 Modem : Device: /dev/ttySAC0 is a tty device: True Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Modem : Opened /dev/ttySAC0 AtChat : T : AT+CMUX=0,0,5,31 Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : Multiplexing has been disabled. AtChat : T : AT+CGMI Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : No modem vendor plug-in found - using default AtChat : T : AT+CBC QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask To me, it looks like something is wrong here. But it could just be me. Well with regards to it not detecting the modem, I found that an upgrade from the downloads feed installed what I think was a neo1973 kernel, so I just quickly flashed a freerunner kernel from buildhost which made the phone work correctly again. But I'm not sure if your current problem is being caused by that, or whether it's a completely separate problem. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Hello how can I hear Music with the Headphone. I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how can I fix this. Yours faithfully Carsten Feuls ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how what kind of adaptor? are you sure it is supposed to provide more than just one ear, mono? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Carsten Feuls wrote: Hello how can I hear Music with the Headphone. I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how can I fix this. Start alsamixer, scroll along to the right until you find Amp Spk and mute it (m), the sound will then come out from both channels of the headphones and not out of the speaker. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:57 +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: i'm using a fully up-to-date ASU, but exposure wont load is this normal? i've never been able to load it Once I followed Micheal's instructions to point to downloads.openmoko.org and update/upgrade, I can now launch exposure. ...cj ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?
Hi, It's 25th, and the 850 is sold out, again. Is there any information or schedule of 900 ?? Best Regards, Mac Lin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:20 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? No, the guy who put up the 15th just made a mistake. I told him the 25th ( best case) and he put up 15.th. , when we hit an inventory status of 36 units of 850, I checked the website, found the mistake and said. While you are fixing this date, get ready for the next shocker, we sold out the 850. Another build is coming so hang in there. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:53 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hey I just wonder why the 900 was delayed with ten days when the 850 ten pack was sold out? I was so happy to see that I was going to order my 10 pack of 900 on Monday, but suddenly the date was 25th instead 15th. When I saw that the 850 ten packs was sold out, I also saw that the 900 was delayed. Is the a connection here? And why are the 900 delayed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:00:59 +0100 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher White wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 11:45 -0400, Jeff Tickle wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:20:53 + Christopher White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running stock ASU package set, just did an opkg update and upgrade. I launch Exposure from the front screen, get the Starting Exposure at the bottom, but then nothing. I had the same problem. Looks like a packaging bug or something. Wow...found this little gem (see below) in a different thread about the ASU keyboard. Once I switched to the new opkg feeds, exposure works just fine. Thanks for packaging it up Michael. BTW, where did you find this info about the feeds? I didn't see anything like this on the wiki? It was the mention on the bug report Jeff linked to in the ASU keyboard thread that we should be using the packages from downloads.openmoko.org that put me on the right track, after that it was just a matter of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories there and update the opkg feed configs. Heh, glad to help. To answer the original question: Exposure is ASU's way of turning on and off the individual antennas, basically. I only post that here since I see some people still haven't gotten it to work. -Jeff -- Jeff Tickle - 828-262-7123 Operations and Systems Analyst Electronic Student Services Appalachian State University http://ess.appstate.edu http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 14:19:29 schrieb arne anka: I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how what kind of adaptor? are you sure it is supposed to provide more than just one ear, mono? It is a Adapter which change the 2,5 mm to 3,5mm for my normal earphone and it is stereo. But could it be that the adatper need 4 rings against 3 rings to work? How can I see how connector is Installed in the Neo Freerunner Sorry for bad Englisch ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS problems, summary
Yorick Moko wrote: it is included If this has not already happened, the getting started and GPS pages on the wiki should be updated to reflect this. -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Michael Sheldon wrote: Carsten Feuls wrote: Hello how can I hear Music with the Headphone. I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how can I fix this. Start alsamixer, scroll along to the right until you find Amp Spk and mute it (m), the sound will then come out from both channels of the headphones and not out of the speaker. This should go into the Adjusting the Volume section of Getting Started. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Adjusting_the_Volume -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 14:23:45 schrieb Michael Sheldon: Carsten Feuls wrote: Hello how can I hear Music with the Headphone. I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how can I fix this. Start alsamixer, scroll along to the right until you find Amp Spk and mute it (m), the sound will then come out from both channels of the headphones and not out of the speaker. Yes but this is the same as before only the right speaker work! Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Antenna Connector part of Closed System?
Vinc, I know its the same connector as on a Razr or Motorola C168i, so I think its the same that Motorola uses. The problem is the way the inner case is designed I can't get the Razr connector on it. It has to reach really deep to reach the FR's connector. So I don't know which one to order? Now the engineers at OpenMoko surely designed the inner case case around some existing connector right? If I knew what other phone had that kind of deep recess I could order the adapter. The plug has to reach a good 1/4 inch though the inner case to fit onto the connector. If you take the back cover off, look near the GSM antenna, you can see tow recessed screws, next to one of the screws is the external GSM antenna connector. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?
Were any 850s available on the 25th? Or did it just remain sold out from previously. Maybe there will be some delay due to rework and testing changes for the gps + sd fix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MKL23 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:29 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hi, It's 25th, and the 850 is sold out, again. Is there any information or schedule of 900 ?? Best Regards, Mac Lin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:20 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? No, the guy who put up the 15th just made a mistake. I told him the 25th ( best case) and he put up 15.th. , when we hit an inventory status of 36 units of 850, I checked the website, found the mistake and said. While you are fixing this date, get ready for the next shocker, we sold out the 850. Another build is coming so hang in there. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:53 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hey I just wonder why the 900 was delayed with ten days when the 850 ten pack was sold out? I was so happy to see that I was going to order my 10 pack of 900 on Monday, but suddenly the date was 25th instead 15th. When I saw that the 850 ten packs was sold out, I also saw that the 900 was delayed. Is the a connection here? And why are the 900 delayed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
But could it be that the adatper need 4 rings against 3 rings to work? How can I see how connector is Installed in the Neo Freerunner probably. sorry, but no headset here to check. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 14:31:21 schrieb Carsten Feuls: Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 14:19:29 schrieb arne anka: I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how what kind of adaptor? are you sure it is supposed to provide more than just one ear, mono? It is a Adapter which change the 2,5 mm to 3,5mm for my normal earphone and it is stereo. But could it be that the adatper need 4 rings against 3 rings to work? How can I see how connector is Installed in the Neo Freerunner Sorry for bad Englisch This is my Sound Configuration state.neo1973gta02 { control.1 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 255' iface MIXER name 'PCM Volume' value.0 235 value.1 235 } control.2 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 255' iface MIXER name 'ADC Capture Volume' value.0 195 value.1 195 } control.3 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Headphone Playback Volume' value.0 127 value.1 127 } control.4 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Speaker Playback Volume' value.0 0 value.1 0 } control.5 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 1 comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Mono Playback Volume' value 121 } control.6 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 7' iface MIXER name 'Bypass Playback Volume' value.0 2 value.1 2 } control.7 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 7' iface MIXER name 'Sidetone Playback Volume' value.0 2 value.1 2 } control.8 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 7' iface MIXER name 'Voice Playback Volume' value.0 2 value.1 2 } control.9 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type BOOLEAN comment.count 2 iface MIXER name 'Headphone Playback ZC Switch' value.0 false value.1 false } control.10 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type BOOLEAN comment.count 2 iface MIXER name 'Speaker Playback ZC Switch' value.0 false value.1 false } control.11 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 1 comment.range '0 - 7' iface MIXER name 'Mono Bypass Playback Volume' value 2 } control.12 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 1 comment.range '0 - 7' iface MIXER name 'Mono Sidetone Playback Volume' value 2 } control.13 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 1 comment.range '0 - 7' iface MIXER name 'Mono Voice Playback Volume' value 2 } control.14 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type BOOLEAN comment.count 1 iface MIXER name 'Mono Playback ZC Switch' value false } control.15 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type ENUMERATED comment.count 1 comment.item.0 'Linear Control' comment.item.1 'Adaptive Boost' iface MIXER name 'Bass Boost'
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 14:45:41 schrieb arne anka: But could it be that the adatper need 4 rings against 3 rings to work? How can I see how connector is Installed in the Neo Freerunner probably. sorry, but no headset here to check. No do you know a link by Openmoko where I can search! When I deactivate Right Mixer Right Playback Swit the do not work the right Headphone speaker but where is this option for the left speaker? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS problems, summary
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:58:48PM -0700, Katrin Tomanek wrote: Hi, I am running the kernel from yesterday (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin). Is the fix included in it or do I have to do anything else to get the software fix? Umm, 20080424 sounds more like April. I use [1], that one definitely has the fixes in it. Regards, Thomas [1] http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080725/uImage-2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0-om-gta02.bin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 08:42 -0400, Crane, Matthew wrote: Were any 850s available on the 25th? Or did it just remain sold out from previously. Maybe there will be some delay due to rework and testing changes for the gps + sd fix. Wow, I must have been lucky! I took a look at the OM web-store on Wednesday morning the 23rd and was surprised to see the 850M's were available! I made an order. Soon after received an order confirmation. Yesterday, Thursday, a shipping confirmation. And now UPS reports is making its way to my mailbox. Other than calling my bank so the charge to Taiwan would go through it was all very smooth. Great work web-store and shipping departments! digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?
I saw them appear on 24th, and removed this morning (25) Best Regards, Mac Lin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:42 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Were any 850s available on the 25th? Or did it just remain sold out from previously. Maybe there will be some delay due to rework and testing changes for the gps + sd fix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MKL23 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:29 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hi, It's 25th, and the 850 is sold out, again. Is there any information or schedule of 900 ?? Best Regards, Mac Lin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:20 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? No, the guy who put up the 15th just made a mistake. I told him the 25th ( best case) and he put up 15.th. , when we hit an inventory status of 36 units of 850, I checked the website, found the mistake and said. While you are fixing this date, get ready for the next shocker, we sold out the 850. Another build is coming so hang in there. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:53 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection? Hey I just wonder why the 900 was delayed with ten days when the 850 ten pack was sold out? I was so happy to see that I was going to order my 10 pack of 900 on Monday, but suddenly the date was 25th instead 15th. When I saw that the 850 ten packs was sold out, I also saw that the 900 was delayed. Is the a connection here? And why are the 900 delayed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
No do you know a link by Openmoko where I can search! have a look at the connector schema at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware ring 1(base): GND 2: right out 3: left out 4(tip): mic + HOLD-button(press:short to GND) When I deactivate Right Mixer Right Playback Swit the do not work the right Headphone speaker but where is this option for the left speaker? i assume your adaptor does only feed the right one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
can someone from Bangalore help me to flash qtopia into my freerunner....
Hi, can someone from Bangalore help me to flash qtopia into my freerunner Thanks Bijoy +91-9731006221 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
Hi there, Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you doing with your new device? I just got my GTA02 three days ago. I am trying to get it work like a normal phone for now. I tried using OpenMoko os for a while and was impressed with the ammount of packages in the repository. Unfortunatly I was not able to get GPS show up onthe TangoGPS, even when the command line seems to be working. I struggled to improve calling volume, but not very successfull. The power management was not good enough, even after the opkg upgrade. Seems not to go into suspend, because the battery gets depleted. Currently I flashed with the Qtopia instead. Now the software is a little more reliable, much nicer UI, but no repository ! :( And the suspend seems to hang after a really long time, only thing helps is removing the battery. I hope those issues will be resolved sometime soon, now that we have an increasing developer base that have the new hardware. So what are you doing? Regards, Breakable ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rogers SIM (Canada) causing crash on Dialer
Morning Steven, The issue is cause by an incompatible SIM card. Go get your SIM replaced by roger with a series 4000 SIM and you will be good to go. Check out the following URL for a little more info: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers/Rogers Best regards, Steven O'Reilly On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 20:41 -0700, Steven Kurylo wrote: me issue with my rogers sim. Did you ever figure anything out? I have two sims which display the same issue. The GUI says I've registered (I even received some SMS messages) but the dialer crashes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia and Java?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my Desktop I just played with Qt Jambi the Trolltech Java UI SDK for Java. It looks good, but will it work under Qtopia? Or only under Qt/X11? I have Jalimo loaded on my Qtopia loaded FR and of course none of the graphics libs they provide work because they are GTK/X11, so what does it take to use Java to write an app under Qtopia? I'd like to be able to write simple apps either in Java or Ruby. I presume some people will want python too. There are Qt bindings for Ruby but I think they are Qt/X11 not Qtopia. Any suggestions? Thanks Jim I wrote a simple Java GUI app using Jalimo the other day just as soon as I got my FR. It worked great, just as described on the wiki/links from wiki. The key was I went ahead and used the SWT framework (which is also available in the packages). a couple recommended opkg installs built little gui in Eclipse (compiled using the swt jar) copied the class to the phone ran from the command line... And life was full of joy! Hope this helps. I know I didn't look up the links, but they are readily available. I figured its the procedure that you needed. Cheers, Geoff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: phone work correctly again. But I'm not sure if your current problem is being caused by that, or whether it's a completely separate problem. think the kernel whic got installed is the right one: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg info task-base-kernel26 Package: task-base-kernel26 Version: 1.0-r67.01 Depends: sysfsutils, module-init-tools Recommends: kernel-module-nls-utf8, kernel-module-input, kernel-module-uinput, kernel-module-rtc-dev, kernel-module-rtc-proc, kernel-module-rtc-sysfs, kernel-module-rtc-sa1100, kernel-module-unix Status: unknown ok not-installed Section: base Architecture: om-gta02 maintainer: Angstrom Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] MD5Sum: 9e342863ccf4784531e6b7be0619fa33 Filename: task-base-kernel26_1.0-r67.01_om-gta02.ipk Source: file:///home/build/internal-daily-build/git.openmoko.worktree/packages/tasks/task-base.bb Description: Merge machine and distro options to create a basic machine task/package Package: task-base-kernel26 Version: 1.0-r69 Depends: sysfsutils, module-init-tools Recommends: kernel-module-nls-utf8, kernel-module-input, kernel-module-uinput, kernel-module-rtc-dev, kernel-module-rtc-proc, kernel-module-rtc-sysfs, kernel-module-rtc-sa1100, kernel-module-unix Status: install ok installed Architecture: om-gta02 On closer inspection, perhpas not: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg info kernel Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install user installed Section: kernel Architecture: neo1973 maintainer: Angstrom Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] MD5Sum: a39c6c6ecd0cf5375f3cf05568a12115 Size: 864 Filename: kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk Source: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=stable Description: Linux 2.6.x (development) kernel for FIC SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko Here goes messing up the FR again: opkg -force-reinstall install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk Crap, that didn't work. Neither did variations. Ok, I'll rename the old /etc/opkg-backup into /etc/opkg, do an 'opkg update', 'opkg install kernel' and then rename things back again. Tha seems to have worked: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk I wonder hwat happens when I reboot the FR now... Ok, a cuple of restars and it seems to work now. Phew! -- Regards Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. thanks! . . .shawn julien cubizolles wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 18:09 +0200, Christophe Badoit a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 julien cubizolles a écrit : Could someone please post a gsmhandset.state he knows is ok ? Here is the (I suppose) original one. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
Unfortunatly I was not able to get GPS show up onthe TangoGPS, even when the command line seems to be working. gpsd seems not to be installed by default (and tangogps seems not to define a depency to pull it in automatically) I struggled to improve calling volume, but not very successfull. The power management was not good enough, even after the opkg upgrade. Seems not to go into suspend, because the battery gets depleted. did you upgrade the software and flash the uboot? calling volume is surpringly enough _not_ controlled by the slider in the dialer but only through alsamixer -- once you foudn a nice setting you can store it and it will come back everytime you call. flashing u-boot and using a recent kernel makes suspend/resume working rather acceptable (wakes up reliable and saves power, though it keeps waking up frequently), may corrupt your sd card though, at least if the 4gig. you need to change the powermanagement to dim first, lock then (shortly press power button). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia and Java?
I wrote a simple Java GUI app using Jalimo the other day just as soon as I got my FR. then it run probably 2007.2, not qtopia? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: What is Exposure?
Thanks everyone for your help with getting ASU updated! I flashed to ASU for the first time last night and am very impressed! It read the contacts on my sim perfectly, the options are very nice, sound quality actually sounds better (more reliable anyway), the sound comes back on resume, and with a little work I was able to get qte (terminal application) to work! (Which makes asu perfect now!) However, once I opkg upgraded this morning, I ran into the problem a few people have posted on here about (Exposure not working). Has anyone found a fix for this? It was working before the newest update and i have my repos pointed to the correct ASU ones. Thanks, -Dan From: Jeff Tickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:23 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: What is Exposure? On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:00:59 +0100 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher White wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 11:45 -0400, Jeff Tickle wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:20:53 + Christopher White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running stock ASU package set, just did an opkg update and upgrade. I launch Exposure from the front screen, get the Starting Exposure at the bottom, but then nothing. I had the same problem. Looks like a packaging bug or something. Wow...found this little gem (see below) in a different thread about the ASU keyboard. Once I switched to the new opkg feeds, exposure works just fine. Thanks for packaging it up Michael. BTW, where did you find this info about the feeds? I didn't see anything like this on the wiki? It was the mention on the bug report Jeff linked to in the ASU keyboard thread that we should be using the packages from downloads.openmoko.org that put me on the right track, after that it was just a matter of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories there and update the opkg feed configs. Heh, glad to help. To answer the original question: Exposure is ASU's way of turning on and off the individual antennas, basically. I only post that here since I see some people still haven't gotten it to work. -Jeff -- Jeff Tickle - 828-262-7123 Operations and Systems Analyst Electronic Student Services Appalachian State University http://ess.appstate.edu http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. i think it's gsmhandset.state (someone correct me when wrong) and give the fact taht the state files only have numbers you're better off calling and using alsamixer. if you tweaked it to your heart's content, do alsactl -f mynew.state store save your gsmhandset.state and copy the mynew.state in it's place. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
help with toolchain on ubuntu, gcc exec format error
Hi, I'd like to see if I can compile couple of programs for om I followed instructions on the wiki, (yes, installed listed dependencies and run setup-env) when $ om-conf openmoko-sample2 after some passes, i got: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. FATAL: oe_runconf failed $ cat openmoko-sample2/config.log | grep -ni 'gcc' gives: 89:| #gcc-zlib 183:| #gcc 214:configure:2573: checking for arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc 215:configure:2600: result: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t 217:configure:2885: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t --version 5 218:/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Exec format error 220:configure:2895: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -v 5 221:/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Exec format error 223:configure:2905: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -V 5 224:/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Exec format error 227:configure:2958: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,-O1 conftest.c 5 228:/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Exec format error 263:ac_cv_env_CC_value='ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t' 269:ac_cv_env_CPP_value='arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -E' 331:ac_cv_prog_CC='ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t' 423:CC='ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t' 426:CPP='arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -E' other relevant portion is: configure:2958: ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm92 0t -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensiv e-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,-O1 conftest.c 5 /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Exec format error configure:2961: $? = 1 configure:2999: result: configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h. */ | #define PACKAGE_NAME openmoko-sample | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME openmoko-sample | #define PACKAGE_VERSION 0.0.1 | #define PACKAGE_STRING openmoko-sample 0.0.1 | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT http://www.openmoko.org/; | #define PACKAGE openmoko-sample | #define VERSION 0.0.1 | /* end confdefs.h. */ | | int | main () | { | | ; | return 0; | } configure:3006: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. something missing in the setup-env? any clue in the right direction is appreciated, Thank you, Andres smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:11 -0600, shawn sullivan wrote: Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. the file attached few emails up on this thread did the trick for me thanks! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS Maps
Hey everyone, I'm wondering how I can use tangoGPS with maps. I've gotten my GPS to get a fix, and tangoGPS picks up the data, but I have no maps! How can I download maps and use them with tangoGPS? I'm assuming I'll put them on my microSD card, but how do I let tangoGPS know where the maps are? Do I use openstreetmaps.org? Any help with this would be great, and if no one else wants to, once I get it working I'll document it in the wiki. Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help with toolchain on ubuntu, gcc exec format error
what gcc, what platform? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Breakable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The power management was not good enough, even after the opkg upgrade. Seems not to go into suspend, because the battery gets depleted. Did you change the power settings to dim first and then lock? Thats what enables suspend on the openmoko image. seems to be working fine on my phone. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
I guess I'm just not sure which value to tweak to adjust the volume level? I could probably play around with it while on a call though, to see which one. But if any one happens to know. . .(: . . .shawn arne anka wrote: Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. i think it's gsmhandset.state (someone correct me when wrong) and give the fact taht the state files only have numbers you're better off calling and using alsamixer. if you tweaked it to your heart's content, do alsactl -f mynew.state store save your gsmhandset.state and copy the mynew.state in it's place. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS Maps
I download maps and use them with tangoGPS? I'm assuming I'll put them this has been discussed exhausting just yesterday: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/023537.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote: Hi there, Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you doing with your new device? reading a lot about it, smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Michael Sheldon wrote: Michael Sheldon wrote: Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:06:15AM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Will a USB FrogPad even work ? -aW There are images on the wiki of someone successfully using a frogpad with Debian on the Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/27/Debian%2Bfrogpad.jpg so it should certainly be possible to get working. Oops, sorry my mistake, that's a bluetooth frogpad. But I would guess the usb version presents itself as a normal usb keyboard. Just to follow up on that from the frogpad FAQ: Q: Is the FrogPad™ compatible with my device? A: FrogPad™ is a standard USB plug-and-play keyboard and can be used with wearable PC's, Tablets, DeskTops, Laptops, Linux, and MACs (OS 9) and above. It Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
btw: just checked and the default _device_ ist mmcblk0p1, after resume it disappears and instead there is mmcblk1p1. dunno if it is news to you ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help with toolchain on ubuntu, gcc exec format error
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:38 +0200, arne anka wrote: what gcc, what platform? ubuntu 8.4 i386 on AMD 6 chip gcc (GCC) 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7) not sure if I answered what you meant by platfrom, shouldn't it be pointed to arm-angstrom by setup-env? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS Maps
arne anka wrote: I download maps and use them with tangoGPS? I'm assuming I'll put them this has been discussed exhausting just yesterday: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/023537.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sorry, I missed that one. Thanks arne! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR and iPhone - how can they be compared?
Howdy Flemming, Neat idea's about the FR and custom hardware. I currently have an arduino project that works great with the Freerunner, connecting both via blue tooth and via usb. The arduino is used to control a custom irrigation solution I build on my roof using earth boxs, and the sends the data back to the FR for alerting and monitoring. If you have not checked out the arduino micro controller, take a peek (http://www.arduino.cc/) . Best regards, Steven O'Reilly On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 01:36 +0200, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: Today, I read [1]. I also read [2], and it is basically the reasons there that made me buy the Freerunner some weeks ago (look at the question part). That, and that it is a cool device to hack on! (Anyway, the iPhone is big, ugly and with a low res. screen:p) The Freerunner is doing very well, being recommended by FSF, OSM, etc, and got a lot of publicity slashdot, linuxdevices.net and many other places. Also it is very nice to use as a phone. I use it as my primary phone, with OM2007.2. As soon as I get some time, I will try to write some code for it too. There are a few issues, but if there where nothing to fix, the phone would not be of any interest to me. In stead of seeing limitations, one should see potential:) That is the beauty of free software :D One simple way to make custom hardware, is to add something to the USB port, since the USB_ID pin is connected to an ADC. I bought a lot of 5 pin mini USB plugs, and inside one, you can actually fit a complete mini circuit. I have one that works as a flash light, and one for measuring humidity. I plan to put the sensor inside, once I have written some code that actually works. I also ordered a small camera, so I will try to see if it works out of the box or if some code needs to be rewritten. The camera I bought does not have the correct electrical interface, so I need to make an adapter (USB or BT). It is a wireless cam, which I will mount on my radio car:) I will add some hardware and make a simple GTK app, so I can control the car from my phone (and see the output from the cam). I hope I ever get the time to do this. [1] http://digg.com/linux_unix/5_Questions_Give_Apple_the_iPhone_Challenge_2 [2] http://static.fsf.org/dbd/iphone-action-handout.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NeoFreerunner and MacOSX?
Hey everybody I have seen (In the Wiki) that it should be possible and that it should be quite easy to administrate (Webacces, package mangement etc.) the Neo Freerunner though the MacOSX Leopard. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has experience with this combination and how difficult it is. I can see that handheld-linux.com, has some software that is available, but is these necessary to make these two work together? Venlig Hilsen Ole Holm Frandsen Registeret GNU/Linux bruger: 417963 .Mac Member: froksen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
I can not promise I am correct, but I think this is what have been told on ml's. On 2008-07-25, Corey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ It is not on the wiki because things may still change. GTA03 Removed Glamo 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc camera different case design than 1973/freerunner vga screen different battery different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) Yes. There will be a new 2.5G GSM module (2.5G = GSM+EDGE). Maybe this will solve the issues with newer sim cards. USB2.0-OTG Yes. OM pays a lot for this. GTA04 USB2.0 will be here at the earliest different GSM chip than FreeRunner and maybe a different PMU:) I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d acceleration than Glamo. 3D? I am not sure about the 2D/3D. I think it is just some talk - lets wait and see. It will prob. take a few years until it gets available, and then hopefully with something newer than 2.5G networks. Maybe different shape on the device. GTA04 will be a totally redesigned and improved GTA. oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... thanks again GTA03 != Dash Express ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
arne anka wrote: flashing u-boot and using a recent kernel makes suspend/resume working rather acceptable (wakes up reliable and saves power, though it keeps waking up frequently), may corrupt your sd card though, at least if the 4gig. This may be an obvious question, but nonetheless: Will flashing u-boot effect the rest of my install or is it completely independant? -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
On Friday 25 July 2008, Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: arne anka wrote: flashing u-boot and using a recent kernel makes suspend/resume working rather acceptable (wakes up reliable and saves power, though it keeps waking up frequently), may corrupt your sd card though, at least if the 4gig. This may be an obvious question, but nonetheless: Will flashing u-boot effect the rest of my install or is it completely independant? Completely independent. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX?
I currently have mine working(OSX 10.5.x) and here is quick down and dirty process it took to complete. I am sure there are many ways to make this successful. Power up FR and connect via USB Download the lastest AjZaurus USB Drivers and install them.( http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=AJZaurusUSB ) The 10.4 version will work with 10.5 After install reboot laptop Enter system preferences - network - select en2(It should be connected) Now configure the interface for IP 192.168.0.200 and enter your router(GW) for your default on your laptop. Reboot laptop Now you should be able to connect via ssh from laptop to FR. Enter system preferences - share and select internet option on the left side of the window. It will then show in the window to the right the en2 interface. Place a check mark in the box and make sure there is a check mark in the internet box also. On the FR run the command route Scp /etc/resolv.conf from the laptop to /etc/resolv.conf of the FR. You now will be surfing through the laptop. Keep in mind that you will need to scp /etc/resolv.conf each time after reboot of the FR unless you take some other measures. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ole Holm Frandsen Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:42 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX? Hey everybody I have seen (In the Wiki) that it should be possible and that it should be quite easy to administrate (Webacces, package mangement etc.) the Neo Freerunner though the MacOSX Leopard. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has experience with this combination and how difficult it is. I can see that handheld-linux.com, has some software that is available, but is these necessary to make these two work together? Venlig Hilsen Ole Holm Frandsen Registeret GNU/Linux bruger: 417963 .Mac Member: froksen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX?
_Thank you_ very much, for the walk through McCreery. It seems thats it rather straight through to make it work . Now there is not much which is preventing me from buying the Phone. So thanks again. Is there a difference in perfomance with connecting it with OSX contra connecting it with a Linux-dist? Just curious. Venlig Hilsen Ole Holm Frandsen Registeret GNU/Linux bruger: 417963 .Mac Member: froksen Den 25/07/2008 kl. 19.19 skrev McCreery, Lee CTR DISA: I currently have mine working(OSX 10.5.x) and here is quick down and dirty process it took to complete. I am sure there are many ways to make this successful. Power up FR and connect via USB Download the lastest AjZaurus USB Drivers and install them.( http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=AJZaurusUSB ) The 10.4 version will work with 10.5 After install reboot laptop Enter system preferences - network - select en2(It should be connected) Now configure the interface for IP 192.168.0.200 and enter your router(GW) for your default on your laptop. Reboot laptop Now you should be able to connect via ssh from laptop to FR. Enter system preferences - share and select internet option on the left side of the window. It will then show in the window to the right the en2 interface. Place a check mark in the box and make sure there is a check mark in the internet box also. On the FR run the command route Scp /etc/resolv.conf from the laptop to /etc/resolv.conf of the FR. You now will be surfing through the laptop. Keep in mind that you will need to scp /etc/resolv.conf each time after reboot of the FR unless you take some other measures. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ole Holm Frandsen Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:42 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX? Hey everybody I have seen (In the Wiki) that it should be possible and that it should be quite easy to administrate (Webacces, package mangement etc.) the Neo Freerunner though the MacOSX Leopard. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has experience with this combination and how difficult it is. I can see that handheld-linux.com, has some software that is available, but is these necessary to make these two work together? Venlig Hilsen Ole Holm Frandsen Registeret GNU/Linux bruger: 417963 .Mac Member: froksen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help with toolchain on ubuntu, gcc exec format error
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 10:29 -0600, andres wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:38 +0200, arne anka wrote: what gcc, what platform? ubuntu 8.4 i386 on AMD 6 chip gcc (GCC) 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7) not sure if I answered what you meant by platfrom, shouldn't it be pointed to arm-angstrom by setup-env? ahemm... solved, I was using the wrong toolchain, hope it serves to others, smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ringtone and vibration configuration
I am hoping to make some scripts, etc. for incoming call scenarios. 1) What mixer setting in alsamixer controls the ringtone volume? 2) What alsa profile is used when a call is first incoming? gsmhandset.state? 3) How can one control the state of the vibrations (on, off, and ideally etc.)? I know the answer to this must be somewhere but despite looking near and far I could not find it documented. Thanks. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Ole Holm Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Thank you_ very much, for the walk through McCreery. It seems thats it rather straight through to make it work . Now there is not much which is preventing me from buying the Phone. So thanks again. Is there a difference in perfomance with connecting it with OSX contra connecting it with a Linux-dist? Just curious. I find the osx usb driver to be quite flaky. I think I have 10.4. I regularly have to reboot my macbook now, where as I used to go months between reboots. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone and vibration configuration
Dylan Reilly wrote: I am hoping to make some scripts, etc. for incoming call scenarios. 1) What mixer setting in alsamixer controls the ringtone volume? 2) What alsa profile is used when a call is first incoming? gsmhandset.state? 3) How can one control the state of the vibrations (on, off, and ideally etc.)? I know the answer to this must be somewhere but despite looking near and far I could not find it documented. Thanks. When you finish these scripts, can you add them to the wiki document your change in the mailer so I can find it? thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX?
I really can't say because I don't have any personal linux systems outside of work. I plan on installing linux on an older laptop soon so I can have dedicated dev machine for the FR. I have been having issues with getting my MAC ready for flash update, but it mostly has been finding enough time to dink with it. Next task is getting the phone operational. I am one of the unfortunate ones with a SIM that can't be read. :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ole Holm Frandsen Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:38 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX? _Thank you_ very much, for the walk through McCreery. It seems thats it rather straight through to make it work . Now there is not much which is preventing me from buying the Phone. So thanks again. Is there a difference in perfomance with connecting it with OSX contra connecting it with a Linux-dist? Just curious. Venlig Hilsen Ole Holm Frandsen Registeret GNU/Linux bruger: 417963 .Mac Member: froksen Den 25/07/2008 kl. 19.19 skrev McCreery, Lee CTR DISA: I currently have mine working(OSX 10.5.x) and here is quick down and dirty process it took to complete. I am sure there are many ways to make this successful. Power up FR and connect via USB Download the lastest AjZaurus USB Drivers and install them.( http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=AJZaurusUSB ) The 10.4 version will work with 10.5 After install reboot laptop Enter system preferences - network - select en2(It should be connected) Now configure the interface for IP 192.168.0.200 and enter your router(GW) for your default on your laptop. Reboot laptop Now you should be able to connect via ssh from laptop to FR. Enter system preferences - share and select internet option on the left side of the window. It will then show in the window to the right the en2 interface. Place a check mark in the box and make sure there is a check mark in the internet box also. On the FR run the command route Scp /etc/resolv.conf from the laptop to /etc/resolv.conf of the FR. You now will be surfing through the laptop. Keep in mind that you will need to scp /etc/resolv.conf each time after reboot of the FR unless you take some other measures. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ole Holm Frandsen Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:42 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: NeoFreerunner and MacOSX? Hey everybody I have seen (In the Wiki) that it should be possible and that it should be quite easy to administrate (Webacces, package mangement etc.) the Neo Freerunner though the MacOSX Leopard. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has experience with this combination and how difficult it is. I can see that handheld-linux.com, has some software that is available, but is these necessary to make these two work together? Venlig Hilsen Ole Holm Frandsen Registeret GNU/Linux bruger: 417963 .Mac Member: froksen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
list subscription question
Is there a way to subscribe to this list, but only receiving mail if it's in response to questions posted? I check the list every day, but so many come in my inbox everyday that it's hard to sort through my mail. I've set up some gmail filters, of course, but it still shows up in all mail. I do read the forums daily but I don't like it getting mixed up with my regular mail. Thanks for whatever response you might have. yochai ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: list subscription question
there were several proposals to use nntp through gmane or so. a newsreader might allow you only to donwload the threads you are interested in. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Right - perhaps something to add to the list of hardware issues? Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, landlines don't seem to exhibit the same behaviour in my experience. Disappointing, as it limits the device's usefulness as a phone which is a reasonably core funtionality... Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: list subscription question
I recommend using gmane. Get a newsreader (I use thunderbird, which has a newsreader built in), and subscribe to the gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community newsgroup on the news.gmane.org news server. In thunderbird the result is I get all the email headers, threaded just like in my normal email folders, but it only checks for new messages when I look at the newsgroups. The emails aren't merged with my normal mail, so no filtering is needed. Only the headers are downloaded, so retrieving the new mails is quick, and I only get the body of the emails that I click on. You can't search through the body of emails, but the online version of the newsgroup is better for that anyway. In order to post to the list you'll need to still be subscribed, but you can turn off message sending. You can do that on the regular openmoko lists config site. The first time you post to the list from gmane you will have to answer a gmane confirmation email. Hope this helps, Ben B. Yochai Gal wrote: Is there a way to subscribe to this list, but only receiving mail if it's in response to questions posted? I check the list every day, but so many come in my inbox everyday that it's hard to sort through my mail. I've set up some gmail filters, of course, but it still shows up in all mail. I do read the forums daily but I don't like it getting mixed up with my regular mail. Thanks for whatever response you might have. yochai ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Right - perhaps something to add to the list of hardware issues? Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, landlines don't seem to exhibit the same behaviour in my experience. Disappointing, as it limits the device's usefulness as a phone which is a reasonably core funtionality... Aaron I have also experienced echoing, and even worse is the GSM interference noise. This has been improved by flashing with the ASU image and opkg upgrade to the latest kernel, but overall it is frustrating that the core functionality of making phone calls is not working solid... I do hope that it greatly improves soon! :) __ Donnie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Staley, Daniel L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, once I opkg upgraded this morning, I ran into the problem a few people have posted on here about (Exposure not working). What do you get if you do 'opkg info kernel'? Somehow the 'opkg update' followed by 'opkg upgrade' got me a neo1973 kernl on my FR. After manually fixing this, I now have: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg info kernel Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install user installed Section: kernel Architecture: om-gta02 maintainer: Angstrom Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] MD5Sum: 117471df1320d854a7f493c39bc649f3 Size: 936 Filename: kernel_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk Source: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=stable file://0001-squashfs-with-lzma.patch;patch=1 file://0002-squashfs-initrd.patch;patch=1 file://0003-squashfs-force-O2.patch;patch=1 file://0004-squashfs-Kconfig.patch;patch=1 file://0005-squashfs-Makefile.patch;patch=1 Description: Linux 2.6.x (development) kernel for FIC SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko Has anyone found a fix for this? It was working before the newest update and i have my repos pointed to the correct ASU ones. I haven't at least. If I try to start it from a shell, it still does this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 app-launcher.py exposure Can't connect to unix socket - starting daemon ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I wonder if it is related to this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe 1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe 1349 ?Sl 0:44 qpe 1548 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qpe -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia and Java?
Geoff Ruscoe wrote: I wrote a simple Java GUI app using Jalimo the other day just as soon as I got my FR. It worked great, just as described on the wiki/links from wiki. Yes I did that too on 2007.2 which has an X Server running. The SWT port is to GTK not Qt, so it does not not work on Qtopia. I presume Python Graphics libs will have the same problem. Any word on this from Trolltech? Jambi looks great, it would be nice if it worked under Qtopia. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, a cuple of restars and it seems to work now. Phew! But qpe still crashes / fails: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe 1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe 1349 ?Sl 0:44 qpe 1548 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Any ideas what I should do now? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
well, the card is a kingston 4gb class 4. yesterday i downloaded a map with tangogps and meanwhile the fr went to suspend. afterwards a few directories were misisng. trying ls /media/card/Maps/om/adirectorynotthere/ gives errors (something w/ read access i think) so i decided to delete the entire /media/card/Maps folder from within the fr -- but that fails with read-only filesystem. and indedd magically the card is mounted read only. mount /media/card -o remount,rw changes that, but next thing i know is read only filesystem. not sure if that fits into the original problem with the fried boot sector. is there a trac ticket where i may add those informations? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
pe, 2008-07-25 kello 20:31 +0200, Aaron Sowry kirjoitti: Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, FWIW, I had this problem for most of my GTA01 use unless I tuned down the volume manually from the slider present when calling. On the default GTA02 image the problem isn't present out of the box, however. (Same sim, same provider, so I rather doubt it's them suddenly starting to do echo cancellation.) I presume the mixer settings in that are saner per default, and apparently I should back them up before trying any updating ;] -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community