Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | One last thing, the voltage scaling and clock rate reduction patches | aren't in the kernel you used, they should be around in tomorrow's | packages: if you have 600 sec to spare it would be interesting to see if | they made any change :-) | | - -Andy | | | | Hi Andy, | To get that kernel you reference would I go to | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/ | then to the latest date (like tomorrow) and look for | uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin? | | Just want to make sure I have this right. Yes the one for 31st is updated already. You might be better using opkg for it, you can find the kernel packages here http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/ Something be aware of we moved Ethernet over USB into a module now, Thomas B found you will need to opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether depmod before rebooting. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSpbEACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqQBwCfSRQFgCT57QZZnv97FHJQsb1O vVsAn2D1wRSqYuO5kf765qaocZruiDVL =mAZD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Okay so I just did something really stupid I nand erased u-boot, kernel, and rootfs and turned off the phone... now it won't boot... what do i do??! L On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point: | Just following the steps that were on the wiki hehe. I didn't know you | could do that. So apparently there are 3 different images that we can | have on the phone, the GTK, ASU, and FSO. What is the most stable one | and what do most people use to develop on? What do people prefer? There's also a Debian port available. These are good reasons for SD Card boot, you can try out these other things while leaving your core phone stuff intact and available at any time. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiRr8QACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqD7gCfcct71lmPu4HwPhP9clPtR6h4 7O8AnidAKAbpUMnvlm8gzIXM8VEazAPu =J5Xm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Lynn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay so I just did something really stupid I nand erased u-boot, kernel, and rootfs and turned off the phone... now it won't boot... what do i do??! L Press the AUX button (and hold) and then the power button (and hold both). The phone should boot into the NOR boot loader. Use dfu-utils to flash the new u-boot, kernel, and rootfs into NAND memory. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and | TangoGPS. | Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but | when I move indoors, | gps shows 10 satellite fixes and gives my speed as 482 Km/h (really | it did). | | So either I broke the land speed record for a guy on foot ... or I think | I will have to have that | capacitor fix. I dunno how a 10pF capacitor on SD_CLK is going to fix the GPS chip acting erratic when it genuinely loses the satellites as you move indoors. FWIW you'll need to wait for tomorrow's kernels to get yesterday's two fixes in there. - -Andy Hi Andy, I'm the guy who said that. Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites. So I thought it must be a SNR issue and the capacitor fix is supposed to help on that ... right? This was all guesswork on my part. If somebody could help with how to make observations on GPS performance, I'd be glad to do testing and provide input. The kernel update is going on as I type this. So will test again today if possible. And don't worry ... will be doing the hardware fix only after OM finally, after all software fixes, decides it will still help / otherwise not. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery again
W.Kenworthy wrote: While in a meeting, I let the battery run down to 0% (as read by apm) Now when I plug it into usb, I get cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode gives play-only and cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type gives host/500mA usb mode 100mA Is it charging (at 100ma) and I just need to let it do its thing ? Will the wall charger work better - its at home(!) Or do I need to jump start the battery? :( Shouldnt the phone have shut itself down at 0% as protection? 2007.2 with todays updated kernel BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I believe the neo sometimes can use more than 100mA to operate, so just plugging it in without enabling fast charge could STILL discharge the battery. You need to enable 500mA or 1A quick charge, as noted by the poster above me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | After a reboot, it worked ok so its a false alarm - sorry! Thanks for clearing it up. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSqhMACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoNKACfRwjF9AzZYTAxKMV2hcHxoGot zTcAn3ZHN+SwDlJ6BwKXNV3JV67cMaka =bx00 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Lynn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay so I just did something really stupid I nand erased u-boot, kernel, and rootfs and turned off the phone... now it won't boot... what do i do??! I think you should still be able to get to NOR uboot. That's the whole point of it AFAIK. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting See section Log into U-Boot in the NOR Flash -Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
Hi there! I'm not Andy obviously, but I think I still can answer that one ;) Hi Andy, I'm the guy who said that. Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites. So I thought it must be a SNR issue and the capacitor fix is supposed to help on that ... right? Actually, the first number in 10/x/y in TangoGPS' status line represents the number of visible satellites, not the number of fixes you got. So if it says 10/0/x, that means you can see 10 satellites, but don't have a fix (because, for example, the signal is too weak). So it's quite normal you didn't get a gps trace if the second number was 0. HTH, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of | 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. | Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites. Our GPS chip is quite capable to report garbage as fact, for a while anyway. I also saw things like 12 satellites each with individual SNR reported, when I inserted or removed internal antenna while powered (something you aren't meant to do BTW). After some seconds these disappeared from the reporting back to the virtual reality they came from. So madness under extreme circumstances is normal for it I believe. | So I thought it must be a SNR issue and the capacitor fix | is supposed to help on that ... right? At the time the cap workaround was conceived, we ran SD_CLK all the time even with the card idle and did not test for what it does during card transactions. Since then, the way we treat the card has gotten seriously more optimized: ~ - SD_CLK is stopped unless we are making an access ~ - Voltage to shipping SD Card is reduced to 2.7V from 3.3V ~ - Edges on all SD signals have reduced slew rate ~ - SD_CLK rate is reduced if GPS unit is powered The reason I avoid recommending the cap is there are 6 signals going to the card, not just SD_CLK, and during transfer 5 of them have a lot of rapid transitions. The reasoning for cherrypicking SD_CLK is no longer entirely valid. | This was all guesswork on my part. If somebody could help with how to | make observations on GPS performance, I'd be glad to | do testing and provide input. I'm afraid I don't know the userspace apps. I literally cat the serial port and read the NMEA. Maybe someone else can advise, this Tango GPS thing seems to be widely admired. | The kernel update is going on as I type this. So will test again today | if possible. And don't worry ... will be doing the hardware | fix only after OM finally, after all software fixes, decides it will | still help / otherwise not. Great, more info the better we can understand where we are at. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSrNcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpomACdGwqta90evIBOQdaKfiJT8jt4 FV0AoI2NVwAiSoxG2uEKCSEc+Dmj+wWN =w8aN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Okay so I just did something really stupid | | I nand erased u-boot, kernel, and rootfs and turned off the phone... | | now it won't boot... what do i do??! Rashkat and Hans gave the right advice, you can recover from it OK if your NOR U-Boot is present. You need to use dfu_util and some partition images from the usual places. The one thing to watch out for is NOR U-Boot times out after 30s if you don't keep giving it some UI action, so you are better to just flash NAND U-Boot in, then reboot into that to DFU the larger kernel and rootfs partitions in. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSrowACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoXQwCeLW/v9RHZpHsN+EwDKpYxDq/T hwAAnROI6ePBxMswj2S0i5d2d0TvYA4y =/A+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | While in a meeting, I let the battery run down to 0% (as read by apm) | | Now when I plug it into usb, I get | | cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode gives play-only | | and | | cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type gives host/500mA | usb mode 100mA | | Is it charging (at 100ma) and I just need to let it do its thing ? It's not charging. | Will the wall charger work better - its at home(!) Yes. | Or do I need to jump start the battery? :( Not yet, but you should shut it down to keep it that way. | Shouldnt the phone have shut itself down at 0% as protection? Yes, we're adding it. | 2007.2 with todays updated kernel I think I finally understood where this issue is really coming from. Did you update your U-Boot in the last couple of weeks? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSryQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMprnQCfZDNsr2EkPQrcvTR4I2hKIbdG lbgAoIaNX1BkHd5icAL3bZUTaJm9Ja8v =xb0q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery again
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 02:04 -0400, Matthew Lane wrote: W.Kenworthy wrote: While in a meeting, I let the battery run down to 0% (as read by apm) ... I believe the neo sometimes can use more than 100mA to operate, so just plugging it in without enabling fast charge could STILL discharge the battery. You need to enable 500mA or 1A quick charge, as noted by the poster above me. Not quite, I borrowed a wall charger and it was ok, charged at 1A. USB from my laptop is still 100ma instead of the 500ma it has been previously. My thinking is usb charging is broken and not fixed by the depmod todays kernel needs before networking will work. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
I think you're doing a great job. A couple of suggestions: 1) Aesthetics: Could anything be done to make the wiki more visually attractive? Orange and white are the old 1973 colours - shouldn't we have a slick green and black theme or something now that the Freerunner has been released? 2) News feed: A prominent news feed makes the site look both up-to-date and dynamic (particularly to web crawlers :). Perhaps we could have an automated feed updated once a week from relevant RSS/ATOM sources within the open-source and mobile industries? This would also be a great place for the core team to post announcements that people may miss in the mailing lists. I realise these things probably aren't primary considerations given the purpose of the wiki, but I know once the framework is there and the site becomes attractive and easy to navigate then the content will quickly follow. Aaron BrendaWang wrote: Hi, guys: I am really happy that many people join wiki editing job. And give me feedbacks. I just make these pages. EDIT WIKI is a page listed every information for edit wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edit_Wiki Wiki maintenance agenda is how I plan to reorg wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_Maintenance_Agenda More ideas , feeback and any kinds of editing will make wiki better and better. Be feel free to give me more feedback about this. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London Openmoko users?
john wrote: I am interested, especially if it involves a pint! You might want to add yourself to: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_London Done! Hadn't seen that page. I was thinking meetups would involve a pint too :) Will email the list again soon with a suggested meeting time. Menno ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Control Center App
hi jordan, we have a project Open Moko PC suite (PoCoMoko) http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoco, that intends exactly your proposal , it's in really early stages (barelly a glade skeleton , some probes with pygtk, , some definitions and a fuzzy todo list all in mails) But I will be glad to share(and translate) with you the few information that we have. feel free to emailme or/and register in the project if your are interested There is other initiative based on gambas Moko-manager, that seems to be more advanced in develoment. Regards David El vie, 01-08-2008 a las 17:05 +1000, Jordan Keith escribió: Hi all, I just found Glade (3 years of Linux, 1 mistake in pacman) and I was wondering, is there any plans for a Control Center Application? Does the OM software/firmware actually allow for a Control Center? Would it be possible to flash firmware/send sms'/edit contacts/etc through a Control Center app? Or does it all have to be done through the phone interface? I know it's another thing to think about, but I'm interested and willing to stick my hand up and help the developers if they need it. I'll throw the idea out there (provided it isn't out there already) and see what sort of response there is. Jordan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue
Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit : opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that: opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether Installing kernel-module-g-ether (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-module-g-ether_2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2_om-gta02.ipk Installing kernel-module-cdc-ether (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-module-cdc-ether_2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2_om-gta02.ipk Configuring kernel-module-cdc-ether Configuring kernel-module-g-ether FATAL: Module g_ether not found. Then the module is not loaded at boot time. I have to cd /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget insmod g_ether.ko /etc/init.d/networking restart Minh -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner GPS not working
Hi, I'm unable to get a GPS fix on my Freerunner, S/N 8A8602882. I'm using a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 kernel with the stock 2007.2 that came with the Freerunner. After trying agpsui as descibed in the wiki for about an hour - without any satellites seen and trying the instructions given in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000899.html I still don't get squad. Of course, tangogps and the lot don't work either. For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a apparently endless loop: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. Any ideas? -- I have four children, and I want them to grow up in a country with a WORKING first amendment. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit : | opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether | | Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that: | | opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether | Installing kernel-module-g-ether | (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to root... | Downloading | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-module-g-ether_2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2_om-gta02.ipk | Installing kernel-module-cdc-ether | (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to root... | Downloading | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-module-cdc-ether_2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2_om-gta02.ipk | Configuring kernel-module-cdc-ether | Configuring kernel-module-g-ether | FATAL: Module g_ether not found. | | Then the module is not loaded at boot time. | | I have to | cd /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget | insmod g_ether.ko | /etc/init.d/networking restart Did you run the depmod step recommended by Thomas B? I guess it can by why you had to insmod instead of modprobe. The packages should do it on install, but evidently not or it didn't complete far enough. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSyTsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqcaACfT7NA4fMLvPcNzVgEAlti3iJA 1CUAn1M2lzs8MirrBDrpg5clbN7zfuuH =Ez0Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
Vinc Duran schrieb: But... what are our chances GTA03 will have a 3D gyro? Could the accelerometers be substituted for a 3d gyro? No, you need both accelerometer *and* gyro measurements for dead reckoning. Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
And me, please post it! Tim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Reilly wrote: FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. It certainly interests me! I don't think we've got the perfect input mechanism by a long shot yet so I'd be really interested in giving any alternatives a try. Thanks Rob ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Control Center App
David Samblas wrote: hi jordan, we have a project Open Moko PC suite (PoCoMoko) http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoco, that intends exactly your proposal , it's in really early stages (barelly a glade skeleton , some probes with pygtk, , some definitions and a fuzzy todo list all in mails) I guess the link should be http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoko Greetings, silwol. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone Question
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Dale Schumacher wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:28 AM, Iker Berasaluce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Freerunner hasn't arrived yet; when it does I'll check this out, it should be fairly easy to write a shell script which will convert any sound into a ringtone. It would be nice if there was an app on the phone itself to do it too... Chris. ___ Would be nice, indeed. My FR didn't arrive as well, but I was thinking in doing something the ringtone issue, although I dind't come out with the convert-any-sounf-in-ringtone idea. It would worth a try . Some people have commented that the Freerunner ring-tone has a fixed built-in playing-time/repeat-rate. I don't know if there is any truth to that, but it would certainly affect your attempts to create alternate ring-tones. There is - I've had a look at that code. It doesn't seem *too* hard to change it. I'll give it a try once I get my FR (in 3 weeks or so). regards, Derick -- HEAD before 5_3!: http://tinyurl.com/6d2esb http://derickrethans.nl | http://ezcomponents.org | http://xdebug.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SD card Was: Updating freerunner to latest snapshot (WAS: Re: )
Actually I was wondering, how many people actually use the sd card and what size is suggested for the sd card? there are several threads regarding this. the included 512mb is supposed to work. with other (4g and 8g) notably have suspend/resume problems been reported, which is worked on. btw: please change the subject appropriately -- it's rather confusing to get a question like that under the heading updating to last snapshot. even better: open a new thread. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?
official release of ? well, since the subject reads ASU, william lai is of openmoko and openmoko does officially only asu ... it should not be too hard to guess, shouldn't it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: numptyphysics ipk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Kluge a écrit : Hi all, the first build for the ipk for numptyphysics can be grabbed here: http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~mkluge/numptyphysics_0.2_armv4t.ipk For usage etc. see the project home page: http://numptyphysics.garage.maemo.org Thanks, it's really nice :) I've got 1 bug, when I activate the keyboard (which is really handy for reset/undo/...). In this case, after clicking on a letter (like 'R'), any new point I click is linked to the last previous point clicked. I mean : 1) click drag *--* 3) click on a keyboard letter (like 'R') 4) click drag; I should have ** Buut the line start from last point, none from this click : *** Anyway good job !!! - -- Christophe Badoit -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIktjxynEdw4rmTRkRAlBWAJ47JfjMU1f+nKTzdsZ1lbMVBk3nnACePgoD kU9LL6rd79HdFaZQIlqfh+Q= =1NI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:30:48AM +0800, William Lai wrote: You might want to wait on this one. The official release is within a week. Installing will get much easier from then on. Wouldn't want you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very soon. official release of ? Om 2008.8 (ASU) will be available on August 8th. - Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a | apparently endless loop: | | $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 | $GPVTG,N*30 | $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 | $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 | $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 | $GPGLL,,V,N*64 | $GPZDA,00,00*48 | | For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. | | Any ideas? It is indeed nothing. Power and comms are obviously OK to the GPS chip. I would definitely suspect the antenna connection since GPS is meant to be 100% tested in the factory. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSzzwACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqQkgCffYTbILoi3JLZ5Gt4m2syWbeo dcAAn183xTCnlz82LlEKT7zEzfSU+Bbt =Voj9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
Scott Derrick wrote: Russell Sears wrote: You're hitting a bug that has been fixed in the newest kernel release: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1158 So I can get the latest kernel with ASU, FSO, Qtopia, 2007.2??? Scott It would appear so. I got the latest kernel of 2007.2 (and the rootfs with it in my case, but that's because I'm still experimenting with the Openmoko) And it seems to be solved for me. --- Marcel MadJo de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-not-charging--tp662177p663960.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
You say you're using the kernel that came with the phone? I'd try updating it, or removing your SD card. Joseph 2008/8/1 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm unable to get a GPS fix on my Freerunner, S/N 8A8602882. I'm using a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 kernel with the stock 2007.2 that came with the Freerunner. After trying agpsui as descibed in the wiki for about an hour - without any satellites seen and trying the instructions given in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000899.html I still don't get squad. Of course, tangogps and the lot don't work either. For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a apparently endless loop: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. Any ideas? -- I have four children, and I want them to grow up in a country with a WORKING first amendment. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Control Center App
Thanks Wolfgang :) I just released what we have already done https://projects.openmoko.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141release_id=173 Regards El vie, 01-08-2008 a las 10:46 +0200, Wolfgang Silbermayr escribió: David Samblas wrote: hi jordan, we have a project Open Moko PC suite (PoCoMoko) http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoco, that intends exactly your proposal , it's in really early stages (barelly a glade skeleton , some probes with pygtk, , some definitions and a fuzzy todo list all in mails) I guess the link should be http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoko Greetings, silwol. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
On Friday 01 August 2008, Jan Keymeulen wrote: Hi, I'm unable to get a GPS fix on my Freerunner, S/N 8A8602882. I'm using a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 kernel with the stock 2007.2 that came with the Freerunner. After trying agpsui as descibed in the wiki for about an hour - without any satellites seen and trying the instructions given in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000899.html I still don't get squad. Of course, tangogps and the lot don't work either. For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a apparently endless loop: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. Any ideas? Is it in a location that's known to have a usable GPS signal? I found that in some locations my Garmin sometimes couldn't get a fix either. If you can do it side by side testing would be useful. Have you tried without the SD card present? While the kernel you have gives reasonable performance with the SD present in my experience, testing without SD would help to narrow things down a bit. Do you have access to an external antenna? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
On Friday 01 August 2008, Vinc Duran wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andreas Bogk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm not a mathematician, but I think I have sufficiently understood Kalman filters and dead reckoning. A little known trick is to use ordinary integration with the strap-down equation given the accelerometer and gyro input, and have the Kalman filter model the error terms instead of the physical model state space. This way, you only have to update the Kalman filter every time you get a GPS fix, not every time you get a measurement from the other sensors. But... what are our chances GTA03 will have a 3D gyro? Andreas Andreas, Could the accelerometers be substituted for a 3d gyro? We only need to replace 1 of the 2 3D accels with a 3D gyro. I've not looked at the size or cost of solid state gyros so I don't know how practical that might be. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
Op Fri 01 August 2008 om 10:54:07 GMT wist Al Johnson te vertellen: On Friday 01 August 2008, Jan Keymeulen wrote: Hi, I'm unable to get a GPS fix on my Freerunner, S/N 8A8602882. I'm using a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 kernel with the stock 2007.2 that came with the Freerunner. After trying agpsui as descibed in the wiki for about an hour - without any satellites seen and trying the instructions given in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000899.html I still don't get squad. Of course, tangogps and the lot don't work either. For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a apparently endless loop: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. Any ideas? Is it in a location that's known to have a usable GPS signal? I found that in some locations my Garmin sometimes couldn't get a fix either. If you can do it side by side testing would be useful. My ancient Garmin GPS-45 manages to get a fix, so I don't think that's the issue. Have you tried without the SD card present? While the kernel you have gives reasonable performance with the SD present in my experience, testing without SD would help to narrow things down a bit. Yup, no SD card present. Do you have access to an external antenna? No, unfortunatly not. -- I like to watch the news, because I don't like people very much and when you watch the news ... if you ever had an idea that people were really terrible, you could watch the news and know that you're right. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
Hello. I wonder if there is something going on with buildhost.openmoko.org. I am unable to update packages list nor install new packages via opkg for two days now. I am unable to wget http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz as well. It says 403 Forbidden. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone said that the server layout is being changed. Is that true? Is there any temporary workaround? Kind regards, -- Lech Karol Pawłaszek ike You will never see me fall from grace [KoRn] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:23:30AM +0200, Jan Keymeulen wrote: Hi, I'm unable to get a GPS fix on my Freerunner, S/N 8A8602882. I'm using a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 kernel with the stock 2007.2 that came with the Freerunner. After trying agpsui as descibed in the wiki for about an hour - without any satellites seen and trying the instructions given in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000899.html I still don't get squad. Of course, tangogps and the lot don't work either. For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a apparently endless loop: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. I have the same problems. Tried with SD removed but makes no difference. Sometimes when I get a fix with external antenna and unplug it then, the internal is able to hold the fix; but not always. Internal never gets a fix on its own. I had the FR open once. I think the internal connector sits fast. I haven't tried to unplug and replug it because the cable that runs from the plug to the antenna scared me. At the point where it is soldered to the antenna it is so thin and looked so fragile and worn off, I was afraid it would fall off any second. But I am not experienced enough to say whether this is normal. pgp640RUWnDkB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko a écrit : I just want to follow up with another piece of PR for effort I joined (since noone expressed opinion on it in the original thread). Just have a look at wiki in a single file http://om-tiddlywiki.projects.openmoko.org/openmokowiki.html That is good. Now please find a spot for that in the wiki and link to it. It's up to you to make it known. How about this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download Minh -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
Op Fri 01 August 2008 om 09:54:20 GMT wist Andy Green te vertellen: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a | apparently endless loop: | | $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 | $GPVTG,N*30 | $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 | $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 | $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 | $GPGLL,,V,N*64 | $GPZDA,00,00*48 | | For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. | | Any ideas? It is indeed nothing. Power and comms are obviously OK to the GPS chip. I would definitely suspect the antenna connection since GPS is meant to be 100% tested in the factory. I'll seek into that. I'll get my screwdriver ready.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery again
Hi, * Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-01 08:37 +0200]: | Now when I plug it into usb, I get | | cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode gives play-only | | and | | cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type gives host/500mA | usb mode 100mA I've almost the same problem, but charger_type says: charger 1A mode 500mA (The charger is a USB host...) I think I finally understood where this issue is really coming from. Did you update your U-Boot in the last couple of weeks? In my case, yes. It's U-Boot 1.3.2+gitr6+ba029a1426bfca169572bf80d50a8b190a6b0e19 (although the file name was u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitr6+ba029a1426bfca169572bf80d50a8b190a6b0e19-r0.bin from Jully 25th.) Regards, -- MiKael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?
William Lai schrieb: On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Benedikt Schindler wrote: snipped When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs. But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend. I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take. It will be a mix up of these two docs (with some explanations around it): You might want to wait on this one. The official release is within a week. Installing will get much easier from then on. Wouldn't want you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very soon. Regards, Will thx for the info. stopped me from doing work that is obsolet after a week. so i will wait for the release and write something about that then ... :p ... things like using GPRS ... but wait... you wrote in an other post, that there will be also a GPRS update in the configuration-tool short after the release of 2008.8 (known as ASU). what means short? 2 weeks, 2 month or don't know? Or is the code already finished and you just won't put it in the stable tree so short before the release? .. while i wait, i write some mails to every OM-employee about things they already know :) ... just for fun i think this will be a great week :) . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Main page change notification
Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Wishing everybody a smooth ASU experience soon, Minh -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
Op Fri 01 August 2008 om 10:43:10 GMT wist Joseph Reeves te vertellen: You say you're using the kernel that came with the phone? I'd try updating it, or removing your SD card. I'm using a kernel from 30 July, and my SD card is removed. I'm using the rootfs that came with the phone. (Actually, I've tried several other images, including ASU, but they didn't work either. So I've reverted to the Freerunner release image, but with the recent kernel mentioned. On a sidenote: gsm isn't working either. But for the moment I'm blaming that on my simcard. :-/ ) 2008/8/1 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm unable to get a GPS fix on my Freerunner, S/N 8A8602882. I'm using a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 kernel with the stock 2007.2 that came with the Freerunner. After trying agpsui as descibed in the wiki for about an hour - without any satellites seen and trying the instructions given in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000899.html I still don't get squad. Of course, tangogps and the lot don't work either. For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a apparently endless loop: $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. Any ideas? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
On Friday 01 August 2008, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: Hello. I wonder if there is something going on with buildhost.openmoko.org. I am unable to update packages list nor install new packages via opkg for two days now. I am unable to wget http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz as well. It says 403 Forbidden. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone said that the server layout is being changed. Is that true? Is there any temporary workaround? Kind regards, I get the same for http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed and some other bits aren't as I remember them. I was trying to get the g_ether package... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: numptyphysics ipk
I've got 1 bug, when I activate the keyboard (which is really handy for reset/undo/...). In this case, after clicking on a letter (like 'R'), any new point I click is linked to the last previous point clicked. Yes. I have seen this too. But only on the FR, not on Linux or MAC OS X. I will check this after my vacation. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
Al Johnson schrieb: We only need to replace 1 of the 2 3D accels with a 3D gyro. I've not looked at the size or cost of solid state gyros so I don't know how practical that might be. Well, if this: http://www.invensense.com/products/idg_300.html had three axes instead of two, it would be suitable... it's designed for small size and low cost. All other gyros I've found so far are too big for a mobile phone application. Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPS not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I have the same problems. Tried with SD removed but makes no difference. | Sometimes when I get a fix with external antenna and unplug it then, the | internal is able to hold the fix; but not always. Internal never gets a | fix on its own. I always found here that external antenna gave a good signal even before we learned that the SD Card could make trouble for the internal one. | I had the FR open once. I think the internal connector sits fast. I | haven't tried to unplug and replug it because the cable that runs from | the plug to the antenna scared me. At the point where it is soldered to | the antenna it is so thin and looked so fragile and worn off, I was | afraid it would fall off any second. | | But I am not experienced enough to say whether this is normal. I feel like the straightman here, now after that description I got to say it's normal. It's sturdier than it looks, under normal conditions it isn't stressed either. The braid inside the thin cable is soldered pretty firmly to the ground plane of the antenna. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiS89cACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqqEACgjOIs/nID3NFYtKKCNUI5IROT 9psAoIH4k2G9DC6zNcv+/DBwc1+hpzWB =lYF5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems when upgrading the kernel with opkg / HELLO PLEASE NUKE BROKEN KERNEL PACKAGES
Jup... thanks for solving :-) Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. count me as interested! ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
Minh Ha Duong wrote: Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page This is sooo in the right direction ;) Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Thank you!! Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. Safari looks good too. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. Cool. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS How about 'Trac'? Thats what it is, and most sites that use trac link it that way. Btw, Some people like single-worded sections like: News Introduction Users Developers I personally do, but it's not a big issue. What do you guys think? - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Safe trip! Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
2008/8/1 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 01 August 2008, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: Hello. I wonder if there is something going on with buildhost.openmoko.org. I am unable to update packages list nor install new packages via opkg for two days now. I am unable to wget http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz as well. It says 403 Forbidden. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone said that the server layout is being changed. Is that true? Is there any temporary workaround? Kind regards, I get the same for http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed and some other bits aren't as I remember them. I was trying to get the g_ether package... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I get 404: This is a problem since I just decided to reflash and start over. Now I can't install anything :-( opkg update Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz [...] etc. An error ocurred, return value: 8. Collected errors: Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz, error 404 Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.sig, error 404 [...] etc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
On Friday 01 August 2008, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: I wonder if there is something going on with buildhost.openmoko.org. I am unable to update packages list nor install new packages via opkg for two days now. I am unable to wget http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz as well. It says 403 Forbidden. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone said that the server layout is being changed. Is that true? Is there any temporary workaround? Someone on IRC said that all the daily builds have been deleted as payback for all the badmouthing of Openmoko staff over the last week ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
I get 404: This is a problem since I just decided to reflash and start over. Now I can't install anything :-( Deuce. Any mirrors, or word on when it'll be back up? Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
Mike Doody schrieb: 2008/8/1 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I get 404: This is a problem since I just decided to reflash and start over. Now I can't install anything :-( opkg update Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz Also if you go into the directory there aren't realy many packages left. There must have been a patch that blow up the hole system. ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
somebody set us up the bomb! On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Doody schrieb: 2008/8/1 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I get 404: This is a problem since I just decided to reflash and start over. Now I can't install anything :-( opkg update Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz Also if you go into the directory there aren't realy many packages left. There must have been a patch that blow up the hole system. ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
somebody set us up the bomb! that's what you get with all that somebody nuke it talk ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
Pretty good. I move the language template to the top. For those non-English native user , put it on the top will make them easy to access their language. William Lai ??: Minh Ha Duong wrote: Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page This is sooo in the right direction ;) Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Thank you!! Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. Safari looks good too. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. Cool. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS How about 'Trac'? Thats what it is, and most sites that use trac link it that way. Btw, Some people like single-worded sections like: News Introduction Users Developers I personally do, but it's not a big issue. What do you guys think? - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Safe trip! Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages. Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even more characters in the numbers layout available via shift. package: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz source: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml Changes - 1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability. 2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust that, but is max 33% in landscape. 3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and abort. 4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key. 5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction. 6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels. 7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if you like it. Known Issues -- 1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install to be 100% correct. 2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I think) after upgrades now. 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange times. If you get a } character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look into this. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. count me as interested! ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
Brenda Wang wrote: Pretty good. I move the language template to the top. For those non-English native user , put it on the top will make them easy to access their language. Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
The new main page looks MUCH better. I also decided to test using IE6 via Wine and everything looks pretty good in my opinion. -Shawn On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Wishing everybody a smooth ASU experience soon, Minh -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
any screenshots? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brenda Wang wrote: Pretty good. I move the language template to the top. For those non-English native user , put it on the top will make them easy to access their language. Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) Right but this is the main page which new users see first. They need to be able to select their language easily. I can see having all other pages have it on the bottom or not at all. The main page should have it on the top. Many people don't speak english. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do that? Does you put jave on server site? Yaroslav Halchenko ??: I just want to follow up with another piece of PR for effort I joined (since noone expressed opinion on it in the original thread). Just have a look at wiki in a single file http://om-tiddlywiki.projects.openmoko.org/openmokowiki.html BrendaWang wrote: More ideas , feeback and any kinds of editing will make wiki better and better. Be feel free to give me more feedback about this. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) Right but this is the main page which new users see first. They need to be able to select their language easily. I can see having all other pages have it on the bottom or not at all. The main page should have it on the top. Many people don't speak english. Ok. For the benefit of those non-english speakers who find it too difficult to scroll to the bottom of the page once to change languages before bookmarking it, I shall leave it as is. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
I dont mind the language on top for this page, but if we can get rid of Main Page at the top, that'd be GREAT. Right now, it's taking up a lot of real estate and I don't think we really need the page name for this page. The changes look good. I like how the intro is split up, so for people who care most about the license stuff, like developers, when they scroll down a bit, they can see it. Cheers! Justin On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) Right but this is the main page which new users see first. They need to be able to select their language easily. I can see having all other pages have it on the bottom or not at all. The main page should have it on the top. Many people don't speak english. Ok. For the benefit of those non-english speakers who find it too difficult to scroll to the bottom of the page once to change languages before bookmarking it, I shall leave it as is. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: numptyphysics ipk
That would be handy to be able to reset. How do you activate the keyboard? I'm guessing you're using a different distro than me... -Steven On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Kluge a écrit : Hi all, the first build for the ipk for numptyphysics can be grabbed here: http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~mkluge/numptyphysics_0.2_armv4t.ipk For usage etc. see the project home page: http://numptyphysics.garage.maemo.org Thanks, it's really nice :) I've got 1 bug, when I activate the keyboard (which is really handy for reset/undo/...). In this case, after clicking on a letter (like 'R'), any new point I click is linked to the last previous point clicked. I mean : 1) click drag *--* 3) click on a keyboard letter (like 'R') 4) click drag; I should have ** Buut the line start from last point, none from this click : *** Anyway good job !!! - -- Christophe Badoit -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIktjxynEdw4rmTRkRAlBWAJ47JfjMU1f+nKTzdsZ1lbMVBk3nnACePgoD kU9LL6rd79HdFaZQIlqfh+Q= =1NI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: numptyphysics ipk
Steven ** schrieb: That would be handy to be able to reset. How do you activate the keyboard? I'm guessing you're using a different distro than me... You press the querty button on the top left. FSO-user here... Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any screenshots? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Those don't display as images... -Steven On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love for now I am afraid. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those don't display as images... -Steven On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:
I'm using the neo1973, so I don't think it has nand? But I'm confused because I definitely used nand in the bootloader prompt. But whenever I boot, I boot into the NOR flash (based on the pictures). I've never booted into NAND flash.But I highly doubt it was my battery because it was at full, and connected to the computer the whole time. Well, I'm a little confused because the screen shots for the bootloader matched NOR, but then I see this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader#GTA01 and it says the only way for my openmoko to boot is through NAND... I tried using the debug board but I can't get openocd.cfg to work. It complains about missing ftd.h. even though i followed EXACTLY all the steps here: http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/notes/openocd Any suggestions? :) L On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Okay so I just did something really stupid | | I nand erased u-boot, kernel, and rootfs and turned off the phone... | | now it won't boot... what do i do??! Rashkat and Hans gave the right advice, you can recover from it OK if your NOR U-Boot is present. You need to use dfu_util and some partition images from the usual places. The one thing to watch out for is NOR U-Boot times out after 30s if you don't keep giving it some UI action, so you are better to just flash NAND U-Boot in, then reboot into that to DFU the larger kernel and rootfs partitions in. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiSrowACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoXQwCeLW/v9RHZpHsN+EwDKpYxDq/T hwAAnROI6ePBxMswj2S0i5d2d0TvYA4y =/A+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Dylan Reilly wrote: Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love for now I am afraid. some error about 'cannot convert chunk to ISO-whatever? if so, do 'ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so'... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: numptyphysics ipk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steven ** a écrit : That would be handy to be able to reset. How do you activate the keyboard? I'm guessing you're using a different distro than me... On 2007.2 : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards#How_to_add_a_keyboard_toggle_button - -- Christophe Badoit -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIkzpfynEdw4rmTRkRArq6AJsE+kDPL2vcxlwihHimFTnyZuKcaACePqzd rvZr/lfzLaYkZk781i0QEbk= =ohve -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which ATT data plans are compatible?
Ken Restivo wrote: They actually hire people to sit around and snoop people's UserAgent strings? It's easy to automate since surfing non-SSL sites should send your HTTP headers in plain text, so they you can simply watch the packets and keep track of data counts, browsers, etc. for each wireless account. Their unlimited data plan used to be $20/month but they raised it to $30 for the new iPhone. Tethering adds even more because they expect that you'll be downloading much more data than users who don't tether. So unlimited data isn't unlimited at all? As far as I've seen, personally, it's unlimited. Of course, I tend not to tether my ATT phone to my laptop and download ISO-sized files or anything. I'm sure if you reach a certain amount of traffic, they'll notice you. Last month I only downloaded about 60MB on my phone. But I'm told that Sprint Metro PCS allows unlimited data, and tethering, for US$60/mo That's slightly cheaper than ATT then, who charges me $69/month for unlimited data plus tethering. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the beauty of it -- even search works ;-) On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Brenda Wang wrote: You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do that? Does you put jave on server site? -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko.org site problems
Go to http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ and try the links. Some haven't been working lately, giving errors like: Secure Connection Failed lists.openmoko.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko.org site problems
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Doug Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ and try the links. Some haven't been working lately, giving errors like: Its always been like that. You're just using firefox 3 now, and it gives that error message to let you know its an untrusted SSL certificate. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko.org site problems
On Fri 01 August 2008 om 10:06:32 GMT Doug Jones told us: Go to http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ and try the links. Some haven't been working lately, giving errors like: Secure Connection Failed lists.openmoko.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) That's not the openmoko site's fault. The problem is exactly as your (Firefox 3?) browser says: the certificate isn't trusted. Which means openmoko didn't pay a 'trusted' third party to get their certificate signed. So if you add the certificate to you list of trusted certificates, all will be fine. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Awesome, thanks. Go figure, actually having a libc library would make something work. Screen shots are up now. http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Reilly wrote: Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love for now I am afraid. some error about 'cannot convert chunk to ISO-whatever? if so, do 'ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so'... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
Is there an escape button? -Steven On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages. Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even more characters in the numbers layout available via shift. package: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz source: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml Changes - 1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability. 2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust that, but is max 33% in landscape. 3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and abort. 4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key. 5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction. 6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels. 7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if you like it. Known Issues -- 1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install to be 100% correct. 2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I think) after upgrades now. 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange times. If you get a } character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look into this. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. count me as interested! ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?
No, but you can add one by modifying the profile. I tried to remove as many buttons as possible so the keys could be larger. The intent was not to have every key present, but rather 100% of the ones used 99% of the time. Personally I would only use escape for vi but nano can be installed instead to compensate. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an escape button? -Steven On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages. Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even more characters in the numbers layout available via shift. package: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz source: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml Changes - 1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability. 2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust that, but is max 33% in landscape. 3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and abort. 4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key. 5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction. 6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels. 7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if you like it. Known Issues -- 1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install to be 100% correct. 2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I think) after upgrades now. 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange times. If you get a } character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look into this. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. count me as interested! ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko a écrit : it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the beauty of it -- even search works ;-) Tovarich, can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main menu that opens it in a brower ? Then it will be easy to lobby OM to install it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help / documentation / system manual. Minh -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Hi Community and Martin (thanks to whom we have this tiddlywiki-based wiki due to his plugins to import mediawiki content) Tovarich ;) , can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main menu ... it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help / documentation / system manual. ok -- for now I just added a section to Download. Indeed some time later link within main menu might be in place. Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge. Also, lets check with Martin (CCing him): would it be possible to create optional prefetching of images into some local directory and relinking appropriately in the tiddles (or better dynamic image source path generation -- if present locally - them from file, if not -- url)? This way we could indeed package openmoko-wiki openmoko-wiki-imgs (which would be somewhat large) so that you could install it from the packages. Also, due to some lack of time I am using pure qtopia image for now, thus can't check how well this wiki looks under minimo or any other browser present for FR. Could anyone have a look? may be layout of it should be adjusted for more pleasant experience on our little screens ;-) On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote: Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko a écrit : it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the beauty of it -- even search works ;-) Tovarich, can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main menu that opens it in a brower ? Then it will be easy to lobby OM to install it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help / documentation / system manual. Minh -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Public build host (proposal)
On 24/07/08 13:17:49, Julian Chu wrote: dependency librarys were install from buildhost. I am trying to integrate those stuffs into meta toolchain, hopes I can release new toolchain before everybody kill me :P Best Regards, -Ju1ian I hope the *.la files for the libs have correct paths in them this time, because I had to half kill my machine to get gtk related stuff to compile. Michael. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Removing SMS Messages from OM
Sorry can't find answer to problem. Hello all, Well my OpenMoko has arrived and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to all the people who've made this happen. I do hope that in the future I can join the contributors. Before that I've got two minor problems which somebody might be able to direct me to the solutions on the wiki. I can't seem to find them. Firstly my Irish Vodafone SIM card don't work so I'll have to get a new one tomorrow. In the mean time I plugged in a friend's SIM just to see if that worked. It did, so that I know it's a SIM issue, but now I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? Secondly I have a few problems which I think are probably fixed in a later version of SW. I was trying to do the Getting Started Wiki stuff and unfortunately the opkg update has a load of 404 errors which the wiki says to ignore. But when I do a opkg upgrade I get nothing. No upgrade is required. I assume that this should not be the case? Sorry if I've missed an obvious search and thanks again for all the effort. This is a truly amazing achievement. John Whitmore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What will the GTA03 have? and other quick questions...
Any direct answers to my questions? On a side note: are Aaron Sowry's comments being considered for GTA03? Thank you. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My hardware wish list after owning the GTA02v5 for a week or so now: - A fast, dedicated graphic bus - GPS/uSD interference problem fixed - A case WITHOUT BEVELS for the touchscreen. Despite what the iPhone fanboys have been saying, I actually like the idea of a resistive touch screen rather than capacitive, as it allows you to use a stylus. This means you can maximise screen real-estate by having smaller icons etc. if you wish, but still use your finger if you prefer smudgy screens ;). Also, I am loving the Qtopia handwriting recognition which I couldn't imagine using without a stylus! - HW echo/GSM interference canceling, unless this can be addressed sufficiently in software - As you say, a place to store a small stylus. The main benefit (besides cost) of using a resistive touch screen is the ability to use a stylus - it should be assumed that people will be using one. - Longer battery life. Aaron On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Monkey D. Luffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were some threads about this... and I spent about an hour reading them... but still don't know nothing for sure. All I hear is maybes :( This is more or less my wish list... So what will be in? 1) camera (decent one, 3MP or more) Will it be possible to record movies with sound? What resolution? 2) buttons on the damn thing :p SNES and GBx all the way :) Or at the very least, sell the GTA03 with an optional control pad: http://www.icontrolpad.com/ But try to make it as small as possible (maybe the control pad overlapping the case) so it doesn't get t big. 3) holder for a small plastic stylus. With an optinal string connecting both, so that if you drop it by chance it doesn't get lost forever in some crack to hell. If possible, keep this in mind if selling the icontrolpad thingy (so the stylus doesn't get trapped there). 4) GPS Will I be able to keep maps updated for free? Will it be possible to make use of google maps, in the sense of having the indications on how to get from A to B? 5) USB connector (USB 2.x), in order to connect the phone to the computer 6) WiFi 7) accelerometers 8) bluetooth 9) a cute chinese or japanese girl ^_^ Well, at least their phone numbers :p I heard about xv and glamo and what else... What I need to know is: Will I be able to watch videos or play games (with sound on both) at 640x480 resolution? What will the final price be? In Europe? And when will it be ready? You drive people crazy waiting for a final product with decent features (e.g. camera) I need a *working* new phone... yesterday :( (must... resist... iphone...) Maybe all this info should be on your wiki and wikipedia? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA Best wishes for everything! PLEASE CC ME in your reply. PS: suggestion for next phones: Dual-Sim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
/qtopia/ hard to Answer
Although the rest seems to be working quite fine, and even battery life is tolerable, with pure qtopia I am experiencing 1 unpleasant effect (which while writing this email unrolled a bit ;-) I am running: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/version 200807100425 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.24 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2) #71 PREEMPT Wed Jul 16 13:45:35 CDT 2008 not sure where to look for qtopia image specific version, but I believe I burnt images from the latest tarball qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz NB you might recall my earlier reports about kernel oopses Whenever I receive a call, screen changes to nice choices to accept or not the call, but there is 2-4 seconds delay after I press Answer and anything actually happens. I think that delay was somewhat smaller with original ringtone (I put some melody in wav file and made it a phone ring). Also since I am not sure if phone 'sensed' my press, if I press second time, it would cause phone to accept that press whenever Drop the call button appears on the same place where it was Answer and that immediately drops the call. It might be wise to filter out events from the queue before reacting on redrawn buttons and even add 500-1000ms delay prior making that End call button active. Few aspects: when I ssh into it via wifi, I see events and avahi-daemon quite busy (25% and 10% cpu) at that moment. I wonder if that is the cause for my high-latency reaction to the press of Answer (events niced to -5). I decided to reboot to see if CPU high usage persist On my first reboot I got white screen and phone was stalled... had to keep power button pressed for quite long before it shut down on the next boot it got into QT, showed No network and didn't react to any buttons on the screen (Although they blinked while being pressed, nothing happened. Unlock item in the bottom left didn't react to presses). Then it suspended and when I resumed it back -- again white screen. in a few secs suspended again and then didn't react to any buttons (ie pow, aux) -- I had to take battery out to power it to shut it down to power it up again. prior to 1st reboot battery meter on the screen showed around 50% so I hoped that would be sufficient, but on 3rd attempt to boot it turned off somewhere in the beginning -- I had to attach it to usb to make it boot again. it booted - and again I got 'no network' message and dead buttons. I waited a bit again, and this time it got connected to T-Mobile and everything started to work -- Unlock disappeared, button react now. Also events/avahi are salient (1% CPU). So the question would be -- how to debug what those beasts were doing? strace failed to be ran on events. But 'slow reaction' effect remained any ways -- I need to click 'answer' very carefully and wait for 3-4 seconds to get actual action. after suspend/resume (single one) events/avahi remained well-behaving -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
/qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least personal settings and aphone book, but that would require manual remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way?? -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge. Sure: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM
John Whitmore wrote: Sorry can't find answer to problem. Hello all, Well my OpenMoko has arrived and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to all the people who've made this happen. I do hope that in the future I can join the contributors. Before that I've got two minor problems which somebody might be able to direct me to the solutions on the wiki. I can't seem to find them. Firstly my Irish Vodafone SIM card don't work so I'll have to get a new one tomorrow. In the mean time I plugged in a friend's SIM just to see if that worked. It did, so that I know it's a SIM issue, but now I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? They are in: ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics Hope this helps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
due to restructuring of wiki which is ongoing (isn't it?) I guess it
would be great if there was a way to get access to up-to-date monthly
reports... and not in pdf although with pdftotext I can get a list of
titles with
grep -e '^\(URL\|.\/\).*wiki' attachment-0001.txt | sed -e 's/URL //g' -e 's/
\([^/]\)/\1/g' | tr ' ' '\n' | awk -F \/ '/\/wiki\//{print $3;}' | grep -v Image
so may be later on somehow to automate their prefetching in tiddlywiki
wiki...
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge.
Sure:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages
and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
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Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:32:52PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least personal settings and aphone book, but that would require manual remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way?? You can upgrade Qtopia like this: shutdown Qtopia (/etc/init.d/qpe stop) remove /opt/Qtopia copy new Qtopia to /opt/Qtopia (via scp) That's pretty straight forward. Tricky part is where to get new Qtopia as tarball or whatever to copy it. One possibility is to compile yourself. It's not difficult and you are always up-to-date. The precompiled images are not so often updated. Get the Qtopia toolchain for FR [1]. Unpacking it to / will install into /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/ Get the latest snapshot [2]. Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it. Ole [1] http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38 [2] ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/ pgphJj3W7zDIL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM
David Pottage wrote: John Whitmore wrote: Sorry can't find answer to problem. Hello all, Well my OpenMoko has arrived and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to all the people who've made this happen. I do hope that in the future I can join the contributors. Before that I've got two minor problems which somebody might be able to direct me to the solutions on the wiki. I can't seem to find them. Firstly my Irish Vodafone SIM card don't work so I'll have to get a new one tomorrow. In the mean time I plugged in a friend's SIM just to see if that worked. It did, so that I know it's a SIM issue, but now I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? They are in: ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics Hope this helps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Worked a treat thanks a million David. One step further ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko.org site problems
Jan Keymeulen wrote: On Fri 01 August 2008 om 10:06:32 GMT Doug Jones told us: Go to http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ and try the links. Some haven't been working lately, giving errors like: Secure Connection Failed lists.openmoko.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) That's not the openmoko site's fault. The problem is exactly as your (Firefox 3?) browser says: the certificate isn't trusted. Which means openmoko didn't pay a 'trusted' third party to get their certificate signed. So if you add the certificate to you list of trusted certificates, all will be fine. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ah, yes. Had heard about that a while ago, and forgot. Thanks. Strange that this is the first site that bit me, I've been using FF3 since before release day... I was thinking that there might be some other kind of problem with the site, as I also couldn't get into the openmoko bug tracker. (But that is working fine now, there must have been something else going on yesterday that has already resolved itself.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ hard to Answer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:29:14PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Although the rest seems to be working quite fine, and even battery life is tolerable, with pure qtopia I am experiencing 1 unpleasant effect (which while writing this email unrolled a bit ;-) I am running: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/version 200807100425 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.24 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2) #71 PREEMPT Wed Jul 16 13:45:35 CDT 2008 not sure where to look for qtopia image specific version, but I believe I burnt images from the latest tarball qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz NB you might recall my earlier reports about kernel oopses Whenever I receive a call, screen changes to nice choices to accept or not the call, but there is 2-4 seconds delay after I press Answer and anything actually happens. I experienced that as well. Maybe more like 2 secs on my device. On my first reboot I got white screen and phone was stalled... had to keep power button pressed for quite long before it shut down on the next boot it got into QT, showed No network and didn't react to any buttons on the screen (Although they blinked while being pressed, nothing happened. Unlock item in the bottom left didn't react to presses). I had this too one or two times. Could be that it improved with newer versions but not sure. I'm currently using latest kernel through opkg upgrade and Qtopia snapshot 20080801 [1]. Then it suspended and when I resumed it back -- again white screen. in a few secs suspended again and then didn't react to any buttons (ie pow, aux) -- I had to take battery out to power it to shut it down to power it up again. Could be that you suffer from the `white screen of death' [2]. I sometimes have it when resuming from long suspend. Ole [1] ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801.tar.gz [2] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-July/004098.html pgpJcCTXeepkA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
Thank you Ole for the instructions! indeed I could just extract opt/Qtopia from a fresh .jffs image whenever new one becomes available, BUT that would not give me easy way to upgrade the rest of the packages (non-qpe) to the same state as in that image... I am not sure how much that is important though... (events/avahi/mediaserver or whatever else qpe relies on). I wonder if OpenMokoMakefile's qtopia target would substitute your directions for how to build from sources... lets see... On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Ole Kliemann wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:32:52PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least personal settings and aphone book, but that would require manual remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way?? You can upgrade Qtopia like this: shutdown Qtopia (/etc/init.d/qpe stop) remove /opt/Qtopia copy new Qtopia to /opt/Qtopia (via scp) That's pretty straight forward. Tricky part is where to get new Qtopia as tarball or whatever to copy it. One possibility is to compile yourself. It's not difficult and you are always up-to-date. The precompiled images are not so often updated. Get the Qtopia toolchain for FR [1]. Unpacking it to / will install into /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/ Get the latest snapshot [2]. Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it. Ole [1] http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38 [2] ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:52:04PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: indeed I could just extract opt/Qtopia from a fresh .jffs image whenever new one becomes available, BUT that would not give me easy way to upgrade the rest of the packages (non-qpe) to the same state as in that image... I am not sure how much that is important though... (events/avahi/mediaserver or whatever else qpe relies on). Ah, good point. I just update the rest through opkg upgrade and don't care for consitency between non-qpe and qtopia. So far things only got better from update to update. ;-) Ole pgpd4nvOPPXr0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Ole Kliemann wrote: Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it. just want to confirm -- for freerunner should it remain ficgta01 (I don't see any other suitable under devices but usually there are 2 separate images for gta01 and 2 on qtopia's download page) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:11:31PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Ole Kliemann wrote: Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it. just want to confirm -- for freerunner should it remain ficgta01 (I don't see any other suitable under devices but usually there are 2 separate images for gta01 and 2 on qtopia's download page) I build with ficgta01 because - as you said it - there not much choice. Worked ok so far. pgpTga72G8Cvz.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: I wonder if OpenMokoMakefile's qtopia target would substitute your directions for how to build from sources... lets see... I'm interested to know that too, I haven't played with Trolltechs toolchain yet, but do have MM running. Let us know how it works. Thanks Jim -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least personal settings and aphone book, but that would require manual remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way?? The next update of Qtopia from qtopia.net I will also make an 'update tarball' with a script to easily install it. make packages in 4.3 doesn't work completely, so thats why there is no feed. 4.4 will be a different story. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Lack of 3G a killer for Australia
Unfortunately the FreeRunner will not function well as a phone in Australia due to the lack of 3G. The Australian Telcos don't appear to be spending anymore money on pre 3G networks and they may even be pulling some of it out as service is declining badly. I've had to get a 3G handset and carrier just to get consistent phone reception in my unit and I know several people who've had to do the same thing. The future is highly mobile though, so I look forward to a 3G phone running OpenMoko. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
