Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Looks great! I've basically got the same questions as Norbert does. Plus I'd like to know how I can get me screen to auto-rotate ;-) Joseph 2008/8/11 Norbert Hartl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wow, that is great!!! > > How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean > how detailed you could draw a shape on the screen from the > figure you painted in the air? > Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something > like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :) > > Norbert > > On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 09:35 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: >> Hi, >> >> As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video >> showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures >> project: >> http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 >> >> There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but >> I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything >> you've just seen in the YouTube video. >> >> Again, big thanks to Daniel for helping me out with the problems I >> have encountered on the way. Thanks Daniel! >> This doesn't mean that I'll stop working on the project; on the >> contrary, I will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my >> primary development target. >> >> More on http://gestures.borza.ro >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> -- >> http://www.borza.ro >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel and Dual booting
* DooD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-11 14:38 +0200]: > > To prevent opkg from upgrading the kernel try: > > opkg flag hold kernel-2.6.24 > opkg flag hold kernel-image-2.6.24 I can do that, but I'd like to have the latest fixes anyway (esp. teh SD corruption fix as soon as there's one!). > Altho i think you only need to block the kernel-image-2.6.24 After > getting a neo1973 kernel and a bad kernel that wouldnt boot from opkg, i do > all my kernel upgrades with the dfu-util. Well, it's on the SD card in my case -- and btw using dfu-util isn't recommended now because you have to keep the modules in sync :) -- MiKael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What will be in GTA03?
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:37:31 -0400 Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While we're on the topic of hardware wishlist stuff, I'd like to > throw in my two cents ^.^ --- > - External wifi antenna connector (Mmmm war driving) Isn't it already there? Search for a thread called 'External WiFi Antenna' on the community list. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What's up with Openmoko store?
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]: >> Yes, >> >> Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give >> them first access to new product. >> If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same price, same product, >> our partner. > > They don't seem to be selling the extras and having two shipments seems > like a waste. > > Baruch > >> >> _ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flyin_bbb8 >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:15 AM >> To: List for Openmoko community discussion >> Subject: Re: What's up with Openmoko store? >> >> >> >> So any updates steve? >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I'm at Linux world, I'll met with Sean in Friday and discuss. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I got the extras (ordered from http://bearstech.com/shop, (the first batch) ) I think pullster.de also sells extra's y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What's up with Openmoko store?
Koolu seems to be better then the direct shop for far away orders, only $60 CAD for shipping to ZA vs $120 from direct. Now to get my dad's credit card details Cheers, Federico On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]: >> Yes, >> >> Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give >> them first access to new product. >> If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same price, same product, >> our partner. > > They don't seem to be selling the extras and having two shipments seems > like a waste. > > Baruch > >> >> _ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flyin_bbb8 >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:15 AM >> To: List for Openmoko community discussion >> Subject: Re: What's up with Openmoko store? >> >> >> >> So any updates steve? >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Sorry I'm at Linux world, I'll met with Sean in Friday and discuss. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What's up with Openmoko store?
* steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]: > Yes, > > Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give > them first access to new product. > If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same price, same product, > our partner. They don't seem to be selling the extras and having two shipments seems like a waste. Baruch > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flyin_bbb8 > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:15 AM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: What's up with Openmoko store? > > > > So any updates steve? > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry I'm at Linux world, I'll met with Sean in Friday and discuss. > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Wow, that is great!!! How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean how detailed you could draw a shape on the screen from the figure you painted in the air? Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :) Norbert On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 09:35 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > Hi, > > As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video > showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures > project: > http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 > > There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but > I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything > you've just seen in the YouTube video. > > Again, big thanks to Daniel for helping me out with the problems I > have encountered on the way. Thanks Daniel! > This doesn't mean that I'll stop working on the project; on the > contrary, I will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my > primary development target. > > More on http://gestures.borza.ro > > Thanks, > Paul > -- > http://www.borza.ro > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What will be in GTA03?
While we're on the topic of hardware wishlist stuff, I'd like to throw in my two cents ^.^ - Hot swapable SD card slot - External wifi antenna connector (Mmmm war driving) - Official openmoko car charger (That gives me 1A without having to futz around) Also, I'd like the camera idea to be an optional extra at most. The buttons idea isn't so bad too, even though I really like the clean minimalist look the freerunner has right now. I've responded inline to the comments of the original poster below. On Saturday 09 August 2008 10:34:32 Monkey D. Luffy wrote: > 1) camera (decent one, 3MP or more) > Will it be possible to record movies with sound? What resolution? Since this phone will not be offered with any contracts (at least at first, depending on how successful it gets), I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a camera in there. It's possible for a USB camera/webcam to be attached to the phone when it's in host mode. If you want to see that, you're more than welcome to go create it yourself. The CAD files are freely available for the phone, so you could probably readily create a snugly fitting clip-on camera that replaces the back plate, or something. (Most people don't have te resources for this, but that's fine. If there's enough consumer demand, it will eventually happen) > 2) buttons on the damn thing :p > SNES and GBx all the way :) > Or at the very least, sell the GTA03 with an optional control pad: > http://www.icontrolpad.com/ But try to make it as small as possible > (maybe the control pad overlapping the case) so it doesn't get t big. You can already plug USB gamepads into the unit. Making one that actually connects to the unit so you don't have to awkwardly balance the phone on your lap or something should also be easy enough for an aftermarket manufacturer, but for now you're stuck with duct tape :p > 3) holder for a small plastic stylus. With an optinal string > connecting both, so that if you drop it by chance it doesn't get lost > forever in some crack to hell. > If possible, keep this in mind if selling the icontrolpad thingy (so > the stylus doesn't get trapped there). Seems like nitpicking, but I guess it's a valid desire. > 4) GPS > Will I be able to keep maps updated for free? > Will it be possible to make use of google maps, in the sense of having > the indications on how to get from A to B? This is a software issue, not a hardware one. There's a GPS in the GTA02 and if the right software ever gets created then it will be able to do what you describe. > 5) USB connector (USB 2.x), in order to connect the phone to the computer ? That's on the side. > 6) WiFi Already in there. > 7) accelerometers Yep. Got that. > 8) bluetooth Has that too. > 9) a cute chinese or japanese girl ^_^ > Well, at least their phone numbers :p I would like a cute japanese girl's phone number too, but I think that's up to the sim card manufacturer, or the openmoko software side. It would be preferable if the cute japanese girl was really into open source too. I don't know if that's feasible. > I heard about xv and glamo and what else... What I need to know is: > Will I be able to watch videos or play games (with sound on both) at > 640x480 resolution? I think we should be able to do this with the hardware that's out there now. Anyone achieved this? -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:01 +0200, arne anka wrote: > >> wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating > >> that the card and it's content are unchanged > > > > inotify > > does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? No, inotify is an observer at runtime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inotify It is exactly the opposite I talked about and non working version of the same :) Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I suggest more discreet gestures, like was the shaking one. I understand it is harder to recognize them and not to recognize them by accident in normal use. But what about starting recognizing only with pressed AUX button? You can replace actual function of "locking screen" by much more where one of them will be "locking screen". That were some my thoughts about usability, indeed your work is realy great! Keep on going ;-) On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Ross Woodruff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dont have my freerunner yet but that really is a great bit of work, keep > it up, can see this being really useful, only criticism some of the > gestures seems to be a little, well, over the top, I mean, if I was on > the bus and I started doing the Z shape for example people would think > what I was upto, do the gestures have to the this exagerated or was that > just for the demo so people could clearly see what you were doing? > > Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: >> Hi, >> >> As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video >> showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures >> project: >> http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 >> >> There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but >> I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything >> you've just seen in the YouTube video. >> >> Again, big thanks to Daniel for helping me out with the problems I >> have encountered on the way. Thanks Daniel! >> This doesn't mean that I'll stop working on the project; on the >> contrary, I will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my >> primary development target. >> >> More on http://gestures.borza.ro >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> -- >> http://www.borza.ro >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!
On Aug 11, 2008, at 12:00 PM, arne anka wrote: >> It didn't occur to me to mount the card ro, but I will try it and see >> if it helps. > > > not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on > suspend and > remount on resume? It's not that easy. But IIRC somebody on OLPC tracker stated that this problem no longer occurs in 2.4.26. We'll see when Andy switch us to 2.4.26 ;) BR, Pawel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What will be in GTA03?
Pritam, Ghanghas (IE10) wrote: > Hi All > > I had put this wish list once but no one considered that I guess. Is it > that stupid? At least give your review guys. > > OMAP3530 > http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/omap3530.html > I see lot of benefits from this shift >Camera interface >Two USB one of them OTG >On chip 2D/3D accelerator -- I didn't get much info about glamo > 3362 still TI looks better >Host of other goodies that you can look in the page >And I don't see drivers to be a very big problem, seems like we > will get another community working simultaneously > http://beagleboard.org/ and TI is in mood of cooperating in this > venture. nice chip.. basically.. but see this thread: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=42144 and try to find any specs or documentation about the included powerVR SGX530... have fun... its closed. thus also pandora will probably not have open drivers. search for statements about that. i haven't found anything that states about how open that machine will be at all. in short: the whole 2d/3d accel in that chip would currently be useless for us. openmoko took opensource serious till now, pushing boundaries further where we could. we want debuggable architectures. means no binary drivers on the app cpu for anything for sure. not in userspace, and for sure not in the kernel. this was nagging many people on gta01 with gps before we got rid of that with gta02. hopefully we will never make that error again. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!
> What if you've got some processes running of that SD card? You'll need > to kill them before unmounting the card. we're speaking of a workaround, do we? > And then, your suspend&resume will look more and more like > "shutdown&restart". why, atm it looks more like shutdown & reinstall ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:00 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and > remount on resume? What if you've got some processes running of that SD card? You'll need to kill them before unmounting the card. And then, your suspend&resume will look more and more like "shutdown&restart". -- OIivier M. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
>> wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating >> that the card and it's content are unchanged > > inotify does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating > that the card and it's content are unchanged inotify -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Dont have my freerunner yet but that really is a great bit of work, keep it up, can see this being really useful, only criticism some of the gestures seems to be a little, well, over the top, I mean, if I was on the bus and I started doing the Z shape for example people would think what I was upto, do the gestures have to the this exagerated or was that just for the demo so people could clearly see what you were doing? Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > Hi, > > As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video > showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures > project: > http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 > > There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but > I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything > you've just seen in the YouTube video. > > Again, big thanks to Daniel for helping me out with the problems I > have encountered on the way. Thanks Daniel! > This doesn't mean that I'll stop working on the project; on the > contrary, I will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my > primary development target. > > More on http://gestures.borza.ro > > Thanks, > Paul > -- > http://www.borza.ro > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS / Wifi
> > i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to > the apps and done by which layer is responsible for managing th connection. indeed, if the variable is only in environnement, you must restart. Also, I'm still not sure that there is a variable. Who can set it ? Only pam is able to do it. In anyway, I'll try to make something. I'd be happy if it's useful. If not, I will be it's only user ... thanks. arne anka a écrit : >>> for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable >>> defining the proxy . >>> >> Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ? >> Not optimal ... >> > > i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to > the apps and done by which layer is responsible for managing th connection. > > >> Anyway do you know who put this variable ? >> And where to configure it's value ? >> > > someone in this thread said it is called > $http_proxy > > and you can set it in one of your if-up.d/ scripts in a way like > > if [ $IFACE -eq "ppp0" ] ; then > export $http_proxy=yourproxyforgprs > fi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? -> SOLVED ?
huh: after a second reboot the full-qwerty was back again?? this is confusing.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? -> SOLVED ?
I could reboot and still have the full querty... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Rorschach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And glad some nice soul added details to : >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard > > Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just > the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there > anymore. Where can I download this file again? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? -> SOLVED ?
> And glad some nice soul added details to : > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Where can I download this file again? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel and Dual booting
To prevent opkg from upgrading the kernel try: opkg flag hold kernel-2.6.24 opkg flag hold kernel-image-2.6.24 Altho i think you only need to block the kernel-image-2.6.24 After getting a neo1973 kernel and a bad kernel that wouldnt boot from opkg, i do all my kernel upgrades with the dfu-util. Mikael Berthe wrote: > > * Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-10 18:16 +0200]: >> >> Now I need to test if I can boot it on the SD. If it succeeds, I will >> then be able to flash OM 2008.8, and have switched between flash and >> SD. >> >> Dual booting is cool ;) > > Yes it is :) > (Actually I'm running 2007 from flash and 2008.8 from SD, unlike you...) > > > Yet I'm wondering if it isn't dangerous to do an opkg upgrade from > the SD. > > Wouldn't that update the FR's kernel? > If it does, then it could break booting from flash as the modules won't > match anymore. > > Or is there a way to prevent opkg from flashing the kernel? It would be > nice to upgrade /uImage.bin instead! > -- > MiKael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Moving-my-2007.2-to-SD-to-try-2008.8-with-fallback-solution-tp682485p685836.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS / Wifi
>> for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable >> defining the proxy . > > Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ? > Not optimal ... i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to the apps and done by which layer is responsible for managing th connection. > Anyway do you know who put this variable ? > And where to configure it's value ? someone in this thread said it is called $http_proxy and you can set it in one of your if-up.d/ scripts in a way like if [ $IFACE -eq "ppp0" ] ; then export $http_proxy=yourproxyforgprs fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using openocd
Lynn Nguyen wrote: > I believe so. I used the openocd.cfg that is given on the wiki. I've even > followed the steps here: > http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/notes/openocd > which seem to be legit. The step I get stuck on is running openocd. I think > maybe there is something wrong with the libftdi phase? I'm not sure why I > think that though. I just think that because I'm installing that by hand as > opposed to sudo apt-getting it. Is there a way to check that openocd will > use libftdi? Hi Lynn Nguyen: i use "sudo modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=0x1457 product=0x5118" to make sure openocd use libftdi so i can use something like /dev/ttyUSB0 serial console in the debug board my system is UBUNTU, hope this help. > > Lynn > > On 8/10/08, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Lynn- >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering, has anyone had any luck connecting their debug board >>> (v3) to a neo1973? I followed all the instructions here: >>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3 (for linux) >>> but I keep getting 'no valid jtag interface found'. But that doesn't >>> make any sense because I can see the debug board from my laptop when i >>> do 'lsusb'. Any ideas? Thanks! >>> >>> Lynn >>> >>> >> >> Does your openocd using correct setting file? v3 board could connect to >> neo1973, because it basically compatible old boards. >> >> -- >> Tony Tu (Neng-Yu Tu) >> Openmoko, Inc. >> Support. >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard
I tried to restart the X but that failed with an unreadable repeating error message. Afterwards I had to reboot. Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 14:17 +0200 schrieb arne anka: > > I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other > > icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line. > > did you restart X or reboot? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS / Wifi
> > for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable > defining the proxy . Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ? Not optimal ... Anyway do you know who put this variable ? And where to configure it's value ? Mike arne anka a écrit : >> If I take a concrete example : my ~/.wgetrc. >> i wan't to connect to internet >> - from home, with wifi, I have direct access to internet. >> - from work, with wifi, I must use a proxy. >> - from outside, I must use GPRS with another proxy. >> >> It's easy to make a script that will update .wgetrc. >> > > > why would you do that? > every attempt to connect to the net is directed to the currently defined > gateway -- no matter if there's wifi or gprs in use. all programs > connecting to the net should be absolutely agnostic to the kind of > connection you use. > for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable > defining the proxy and this variable is checked for automatically. > > in your up-/down-scripts you simply can set/unset the proxy variablke > depending of the interface used. > > none of your apps, be it wget or a browser, should care for that kind of > information. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard
> I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other > icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line. did you restart X or reboot? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Feed updates
Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard
Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 09:12 -0700 schrieb Charles-Henri Gros: > > How can I activate the keyboard? Or how can I automate the appearance at > > selection of an enter field? > > Depending on what distribution you're running, see: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle > or > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards#How_to_add_a_keyboard_toggle_button > I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line. Is that right? -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:41 +0200, arne anka wrote: > > If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to > > see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? > > wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the > card and it's content are unchanged, thus preventing unnecessary searching? > i do not use qtopia, so if it's already done that way, ignore me ... > The flag you mean could be the modification date of the filesystem. Placing an extra flag does not help. A copy of mp3 files with an other program does not honor your flag but the filesystem stamps do. A registry of media cards and modification dates could solve this. If there is an id on the filesystem (like the uuid from an ext3) use this. Otherwise the freerunner could create one and write it on the media. If the freerunner then would check the id and the timestamp asking the user to do some actions on change that would be heaven :) my 2 cents Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
Thanks! But your proposal is a bit harsh for me :) You just need to put 0 to the config items in section "SD Card". That solves it as well. Norbert On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:35 +0200, Rorschach wrote: > Thanks Norbert very much for finally finding the real problem with the pin > dialog not appearing! Removing this makes the pin-dialog appear for me with > !!every boot!! now ca. 15-20 sec after x started. Before this patch the > pin-dialog just appeared 1 out of 40 boots! This is a big improvment. > > So if this is really needed to do by qpe, this process should be forked away > from qpe in order to not block other things and it should be given a low > priority with nice not to consume so much cpu and blocking other processes > with this. > > # diff /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf.bak > /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf > --- /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf.bakMon Aug 11 > 11:19:26 2008 > +++ /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.confMon Aug 11 11:20:02 2008 > @@ -2,19 +2,8 @@ > File=QtopiaDefaults > Context=Storage > > -[MountTable] > -MountPoints="MountPoint0" > - > [HOME] > Name[] = HOME > Documents = 1 > Applications = 0 > ContentDatabase=1 > - > -[MountPoint0] > -Name[] = SD Card > -Path=/dev/mmcblk0p1 > -Removable = 1 > -Applications = 1 > -Documents = 1 > -ContentDatabase = 1 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:01 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: > Norbert Hartl wrote: > > What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems > > other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking > > at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't > > understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow > > down other things extremely. The SIM Pin dialog is working > > with the new firmware but delayed through qpe. > > > > Holger Freyther gave me the hint that it is looking for > > media on the SD card. In > > > > /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf > > That is one possible thing it is doing at startup. The idea is that it > is a phone, and you only startup in rare instances. > If we take a stable phone than you are right. But at the moment people need to start often and that leads to a situation where these settings confuse a lot of people. It is even there if you start your phone the first time. To raise user experience this search should be delayed and it should be assured that this search is happening on a very low priority so it does not block anything. There could be even an indicator that is visually announcing the search. But let us be realistic :) > > > > there is a section where qpe is configured for the media > > it should search. For the SD card every media type is > > activated. So the qpe searches the SD card after booting > > blocking a lot of other things. There are two issues for > > me: > > > > - it is discussable if these settings are useful as default > > to search for media on the SD card. While being troublesome > > I would be against it > > If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to > see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? > Because there is always something in between black and white. There could be some intelligent way to detect when it is necessary to refresh. And users are quite used to know that software is stupid and they praise the existence of a manual trigger for such actions. > > > > - furthermore the SD card is configured as being removable > > forcing the qpe to do the search every time being activated. > > Removable can be interpret as two things. The card is removable > > at runtime or it is removable at all. In the second case this > > would be true for hard disks as well :) > > If this is meant as something sensible at runtime this is a > > misinterpretation. You have to shut down the freeunner to > > remove the card so it is not really removable > > But it _IS_ removable, losable and optional. The flash chip is not. As > well, you might have added files to it while you had it out. see above. Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is it?
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:08:15PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 17:46:22 schrieb Scott: > > I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went > > without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its > > listed in the "uninstall" list of the installer? > > Sounds like the package is missing a proper .desktop file. > Yes The source didn't provide the .desktop file. I will fix it as soon as possible. -Ju1ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
> If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to > see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged, thus preventing unnecessary searching? i do not use qtopia, so if it's already done that way, ignore me ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Initrd partition for fix kernel and modules possible incompatibilities by upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I've been thinking about this since some time and I'd like to know why | don't you make one more partition with initrd which would have some | needed modules and basic scripts for proper complete OpenMoko boot (for | example: g_ether etc. - I don't know which modules are used in boot | process - my FR didn't arrive yet). | In this way with flashing kernel it will need to flash the initrd, too, | but wont make problems when kernel modules are not upgraded on rootfs. | Something simmilar is already used by other Linux distributions for not | need to compile many modules as built-in in kernel. | This initrd partition would be overmounted with rootfs by these basic | scripts in boot process. | This way it would not need to flash rootfs (and loose data there) in case | of any upgrade problems. | | Please correct me if I'm wrong - it's just basic theoretical thinking - I | didn't have FR in my hands yet nor I looked at the OpenMoko filesystem. I have another way to come at this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_backup_kernel - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkigHKsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqykgCgh2hrjqiscFCigmtoWU6n2H/y LEUAn3d6to0C/2KiYhuLs2fI7kX+H89X =r/FS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
Thanks Norbert very much for finally finding the real problem with the pin dialog not appearing! Removing this makes the pin-dialog appear for me with !!every boot!! now ca. 15-20 sec after x started. Before this patch the pin-dialog just appeared 1 out of 40 boots! This is a big improvment. So if this is really needed to do by qpe, this process should be forked away from qpe in order to not block other things and it should be given a low priority with nice not to consume so much cpu and blocking other processes with this. # diff /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf.bak /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf --- /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf.bak Mon Aug 11 11:19:26 2008 +++ /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf Mon Aug 11 11:20:02 2008 @@ -2,19 +2,8 @@ File=QtopiaDefaults Context=Storage -[MountTable] -MountPoints="MountPoint0" - [HOME] Name[] = HOME Documents = 1 Applications = 0 ContentDatabase=1 - -[MountPoint0] -Name[] = SD Card -Path=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -Removable = 1 -Applications = 1 -Documents = 1 -ContentDatabase = 1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo
Hi,
I was bored and just wrote a little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo:
http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/391300/ .
For the zenity-gui you need of course zenity and a bash-shell. To make the
progress-bar work you need to patch dfu-util:
$ diff dfu-util/src/sam7dfu-old.c dfu-util/src/sam7dfu.c
111c111
< printf("Starting download:\n");
---
> printf("Starting download: [");
148c148
< printf("#\n");
---
> putchar('#');
157c157
< printf("finished!\n");
---
> printf("] finished!\n");
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Re: No pin dialog/ qpe
Norbert Hartl wrote: > What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems > other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking > at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't > understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow > down other things extremely. The SIM Pin dialog is working > with the new firmware but delayed through qpe. > > Holger Freyther gave me the hint that it is looking for > media on the SD card. In > > /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf That is one possible thing it is doing at startup. The idea is that it is a phone, and you only startup in rare instances. > > there is a section where qpe is configured for the media > it should search. For the SD card every media type is > activated. So the qpe searches the SD card after booting > blocking a lot of other things. There are two issues for > me: > > - it is discussable if these settings are useful as default > to search for media on the SD card. While being troublesome > I would be against it If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? > > - furthermore the SD card is configured as being removable > forcing the qpe to do the search every time being activated. > Removable can be interpret as two things. The card is removable > at runtime or it is removable at all. In the second case this > would be true for hard disks as well :) > If this is meant as something sensible at runtime this is a > misinterpretation. You have to shut down the freeunner to > remove the card so it is not really removable But it _IS_ removable, losable and optional. The flash chip is not. As well, you might have added files to it while you had it out. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Initrd partition for fix kernel and modules possible incompatibilities by upgrade
I've been thinking about this since some time and I'd like to know why don't you make one more partition with initrd which would have some needed modules and basic scripts for proper complete OpenMoko boot (for example: g_ether etc. - I don't know which modules are used in boot process - my FR didn't arrive yet). In this way with flashing kernel it will need to flash the initrd, too, but wont make problems when kernel modules are not upgraded on rootfs. Something simmilar is already used by other Linux distributions for not need to compile many modules as built-in in kernel. This initrd partition would be overmounted with rootfs by these basic scripts in boot process. This way it would not need to flash rootfs (and loose data there) in case of any upgrade problems. Please correct me if I'm wrong - it's just basic theoretical thinking - I didn't have FR in my hands yet nor I looked at the OpenMoko filesystem. With Regards, Tomasz Czapiewski ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No pin dialog/ qpe
What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow down other things extremely. The SIM Pin dialog is working with the new firmware but delayed through qpe. Holger Freyther gave me the hint that it is looking for media on the SD card. In /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf there is a section where qpe is configured for the media it should search. For the SD card every media type is activated. So the qpe searches the SD card after booting blocking a lot of other things. There are two issues for me: - it is discussable if these settings are useful as default to search for media on the SD card. While being troublesome I would be against it - furthermore the SD card is configured as being removable forcing the qpe to do the search every time being activated. Removable can be interpret as two things. The card is removable at runtime or it is removable at all. In the second case this would be true for hard disks as well :) If this is meant as something sensible at runtime this is a misinterpretation. You have to shut down the freeunner to remove the card so it is not really removable Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8
Hi, I read the post about the new review for the freeunner on golem. While reading I wondered what screenshots they used in a text announcing the new firmware. A few moments later I followed the link to the wiki page for Om2008.8. I think the screenshots on the page should show what you get after installing the new firmware. The second one is just counter productive. With a fresh install you get not only fewer icons, all icons are assigned different applications. That maximizes confusion for new users. Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner
I gave it a try, too! I have a t-mobile flat rate which I use from my laptop. I just copied the file to the freerunner altered /etc/group as you supposed. My files look like this: /etc/ppp/peers/t-mobile --- user "tm" connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/connect-t-mobile" /dev/ttySAC0 persist modem noipdefault usepeerdns defaultroute ipcp-accept-local ipcp-accept-remote lock crtscts /etc/ppp/connect-t-mobile - ABORT 'BUSY' ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT 'ERROR' '' AT OK AT+CGATT=1 OK AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.t-mobile" OK ATDT*99***1# /etc/ppp/pap-secrets # Secrets for authentication using PAP # clientserver secret IP addresses * * "" * "tm"* "tm"* That's all. I connected it yesterday and it worked. I used tangogps along with it and it downloaded the tiles automatically without having a usb cable connected. This is great! Gprs indeed feels slow and sluggish. The user tm in my files is arbitrarily chosen. It is said it's just better to connect with supplying a user and password. Norbert 08-09 at 14:51 -0700, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > I just wanted to share with the community that I have somewhat got > GPRS working T-Mobile on a Freerunner (GTA02) with the August 8 > release of Om2008.8. I'm going to paste a bunch of stuff in here, so > sorry if this email is pretty confused and long. I need to say up > front that I don't have any data plan with T-Mobile. I just went to a > T-Mobile store yesterday and bought a SIM chip (US$10) and a pre-paid > plan. The guy behind the counter asked me what the phone was that I > had. I explained a little, and then he mentioned something about me > being able to get free data service, that T-Mobile didn't advertise > it, and that it wasn't worth their time to track down who was using it > ... I don't know. He just wrote on my receipt "wap.voicestream.com". > > I should also note that I didn't have to modify > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on, or chown > /dev/ttySAC0, or even do "stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts". However, in > relation to chowning /dev/ttySAC0, I *did* modify /etc/group and add > the users "uucp" and "ppp" to the group "dialout", which by default > has write permissions on /dev/ttySAC0. > > It seems to connect, bring up the ppp0 interface, and get and > configure a number of TCP/IP settings. Only DNS name resolution seems > to work, but this is probably just because I don't have a data plan, > or haven't figured out what ports are open to the outside world or > what proxy may need to be used. Any input, or suggestions would be > great. > > What I've done required very little modification from this wiki > article: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS. The only files I edited > or created were the ones you see below. Get ready for a cut-n-paste > fest: > > - > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/tmobile > lock > /dev/ttySAC0 115200 > crtscts > connect /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect > disconnect /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect > hide-password > usepeerdns > ipcp-accept-local > noauth > noipdefault > novj > novjccomp > defaultroute > replacedefaultroute > # Reopen the connection if it fails, pausing for a while. > persist > holdoff 15 > # Check the line every 20 seconds and presume > # the peer is gone if no reply for 4 times. > lcp-echo-interval 20 > lcp-echo-failure 4 > > - > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect > #!/bin/sh -e > exec chat -v -S -s\ > TIMEOUT 15\ > "" "\K\K\K\d+++ATH"\ > OK-AT-OK ATZ\ > OK ATE1\ > ABORT BUSY\ > ABORT DELAYED\ > ABORT "NO ANSWER"\ > ABORT "NO DIALTONE"\ > ABORT VOICE\ > ABORT ERROR\ > ABORT RINGING\ > TIMEOUT 60\ > OK AT+CFUN=1\ > OK AT+COPS\ > OK AT+CGDCONT=1,\"IP\",\"wap.voicestream.com\"\ > OK ATD*99***1# > CONNECT /n/d > > - > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect > #!/bin/sh -e > /usr/sbin/chat -v\ > ABORT OK\ > ABORT BUSY\ > ABORT DELAYED\ > ABORT "NO ANSWER"\ > ABORT "NO CARRIER"\ > ABORT "NO DIALTONE"\ > ABORT VOICE\ > ABORT ERROR\ > ABORT RINGING\ > TIMEOUT 12\ > "" "\K\K\K\d+++ATH"\ > "NO CARRIER-AT-OK" "\c" > > - > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/pap-secrets > # Secrets for authentication using PAP > # client server secret IP addresses > * * "" * >
Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!
> It didn't occur to me to mount the card ro, but I will try it and see > if it helps. not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and remount on resume? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS / Wifi
> If I take a concrete example : my ~/.wgetrc. > i wan't to connect to internet > - from home, with wifi, I have direct access to internet. > - from work, with wifi, I must use a proxy. > - from outside, I must use GPRS with another proxy. > > It's easy to make a script that will update .wgetrc. why would you do that? every attempt to connect to the net is directed to the currently defined gateway -- no matter if there's wifi or gprs in use. all programs connecting to the net should be absolutely agnostic to the kind of connection you use. for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable defining the proxy and this variable is checked for automatically. in your up-/down-scripts you simply can set/unset the proxy variablke depending of the interface used. none of your apps, be it wget or a browser, should care for that kind of information. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: receiving SMS messages
> If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone > wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the > message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in both > images as well. This is now fixed in the latest qtopia image 080808 (haven't tried the 2008.8 openmoko image yet). This is looking very promising as a day to day phone! Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om 2008.8 on Golem
Hi Folks, i found a review of the Om 2008.8 on Golem. It is only in German. http://www.golem.de/0808/61637.html So have fun with it ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
steve wrote: > Good question. > > Here are the options. > > 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. > 2. Ship with Qtopia. A solid full featured smart phone. > 3. Ship with OM2008.8 An alpha release of our future phone. 4. Ship bare metal and let the users choose. Why not embrace choice? -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
GREAT JOB!!! very well done... keep up the great work Paul!! +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ship with nothing and everyone put what want >> >> So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) > > > Ship with *all* available distributions on the *SD Card*, and include > a script that lets you copy your desired distribution to flash once > you've checked them all out .. > > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
> Ship with nothing and everyone put what want > > So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) Ship with *all* available distributions on the *SD Card*, and include a script that lets you copy your desired distribution to flash once you've checked them all out .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
> Will report in case of success. Great! It'd be pretty nice if we could come up with an installable app that will just do the "Copy from Flash to SD and re-configure to boot from SD" process for an end user. I'd find it quite useful - as a matter of fact I prefer to have my entire system on SD rather than flash, since I intend to load it to the gills with all possible applications I can find! :) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om 2008.8 Multiverse repository bug
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 03:25:53PM -0700, abatrour wrote: > > I noticed while editing a part on the wiki that the url for the multiverse > repository (/etc/opkg/Multiverse-feed.conf) for Om 2008.8 was wrong. > > > src/gz daily-Multiverse http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/multiverse > > The problem was the M in Multiverse. It should be uppercase. Hi Abatrour, could you please tell me which page has the worng URL ? Thank you :-) -Ju1ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | like later than 08/08/08? | | Yeah. Icon issue should be fixed with today's kernel. | | Is there a directory with the correct kernel and modules for 2008.8 ? You can find packages here... http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/ ...but really, it should be easier to get the device to go out and get latest packages (however one does that) and you shouldn't need to know this URL. | Where is the "correct" uboot located ? Mike Montour found it here (you want v5 one) http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080809/ but they aren't in 20080811 dir, bit confusing. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkif79kACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoBhwCgjwjA7nrZJh2pYilolp83iQSk uioAn19RYUaO8PIM74EUSjIhLCccqYei =XW5e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel and Dual booting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Mikael Berthe wrote: | |> Or is there a way to prevent opkg from flashing the kernel? It would be |> nice to upgrade /uImage.bin instead! | | I don't know of a way to do this at the moment, but it would be a nice | enhancement. Perhaps the flashing script could check to see which device | was mounted as the root filesystem, and only proceed with the flashing | if it was a NAND partition (/dev/mtdblock?). We started discussing this on devel list, I learned from Graeme that he always stores the updated kernel in /boot/uImage.bin (and currently blows the kernel partition too). If you symlink /uImage.bin to point to /boot/uImage.bin maybe it will square that part of the circle. He did say he prefers the packaging to only affect one filesystem, so if we do not blow the kernel partition at all if / is *mmcblk* then it will be consistent. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkif7RsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqwbQCeM5cmC9JatCKxk0ndW3N473l7 rP8AnR5FLJQ/sdD/hs0Vlp8jB2vs2Z77 =nB3P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video. Again, big thanks to Daniel for helping me out with the problems I have encountered on the way. Thanks Daniel! This doesn't mean that I'll stop working on the project; on the contrary, I will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my primary development target. More on http://gestures.borza.ro Thanks, Paul -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) steve wrote: > Good question. > > Here are the options. > > 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. > 2. Ship with Qtopia. A solid full featured smart phone. > 3. Ship with OM2008.8 An alpha release of our future phone. > > > discuss. > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Charles Pax > *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2008 12:24 PM > *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion > *Subject:* Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release > > Will this be shipping with the next batch of Freerunners? > > -Charles > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIn+hnSIAU/I6SkT0RAncMAKCBi0LLq8D+Dw/8DkP/aEhdAlmbZQCfclHz GWje2yvrJS9EXdC4dUpnH0w= =Ee/g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
My summary from LinuxWorld
Hi, I forward my trip report from LinuxWorld here. :) Best Regards, Jeremy Chang - Forwarded message from Jeremy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:18:59 +0800 From: Jeremy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [gta02] My summary from LinuxWorld Dears: I will make my summary from LinuxWorld. I think this exhibit to openmoko is indeed worthy, many people getting impressed we made our device open, that's great both for Linux users and developers. Many people attracted to our booth and got understanding about what's openmoko, what's our business model, where we are based. Most of the time of the three days, I was at the Garage booth. We showed four different distribution images that are 2007.2, ASU, FSO, Qtopia. It's great here, lots of people coming, some are vendors, also exhibitors there. Half of the coming people are already heard about Openmoko, but not knowing very much or not ever hold the neo freerunner, seen the ASU, FSO, etc. Some got interested about openmoko project, our device and are gonna buy it. Still some people knowing Openmoko but are waiting us to make it better. From my perspective from LinuxWorld, many are looking forward to 3G or EDGE, some are waiting us to make it as stable as a daily phone. Some people question us when we gonna make it to mass market, also want to know what will be our next device. It's also great to meet Michael, Steve, Pat and some local volunteers from our community, like Jeffrey, Brian,Chris, Ken, Lothar, Lohai, etc. I worked well with them and thanks for their great help. I got more excited and confident about we can enlarge our community more, and Indeed so many people got interested. To me, it's also a great opportuniy to meet los of people, getting knowing each other from other booths, companies. Cheers, Jeremy Chang ___ gta02 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.internal.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/gta02 - End forwarded message - signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
