Re: [hiring] OpenGL Experts

2008-09-09 Thread Bryan DeLuca
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:07:59 +0200
Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Specifically what we need is help doing OpenGL ES over X. The SoC would
  be the Samsungs 6410. So part driver work and part X work. Openmoko
  would be willing to hire somebody full time, part-time, or even on a per
  project basis.
 
 
 Samsung 6410 is FreeRunner chip or GTA04 one?
 
 
 
 
  If you're interested, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CC
  myself.
 
  Thanks!
 
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Not used in any current OM phones.  

More info:  

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productinfo.do?fmly_id=229partnum=S3C6410

Looks nice...
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Re: [hiring] OpenGL Experts

2008-09-09 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
Bryan DeLuca wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:07:59 +0200
 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Specifically what we need is help doing OpenGL ES over X. The SoC would
 be the Samsungs 6410. So part driver work and part X work. Openmoko
 would be willing to hire somebody full time, part-time, or even on a per
 project basis.

 Samsung 6410 is FreeRunner chip or GTA04 one?



 If you're interested, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CC
 myself.

 Thanks!

-Sean

 Not used in any current OM phones.  
 
 More info:  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productinfo.do?fmly_id=229partnum=S3C6410
 
 Looks nice...
The link above broken, here the right one.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229partnum=S3C6410
Also I cannot find any available technical documentation on-line, does 
it exists?

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Re: problem accessing SD Card SanDisk SDSDQ-8192-E11M

2008-09-09 Thread Stefan Fröbe
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Kevin Squire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Kevin Squire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have problems accessing my 8Go SD Card
 
 snip snip

  For my disk, my thoughts are that the first sector is bad.  I'll try
  to confirm this later today (don't have anything else available that

 Confirmed, bad disk--can't read it with anything else (and in fact,
 trying to read it on my Ubuntu system puts sd_mod into a state where
 it won't read another disk).


Had that  before, too : In case you do not have a backup of the MBR, there
is a (windows) tool from panasonic ( SD-Format or sth. like that) that could
restore mine to a point where formatting worked again.

Stefan
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Re: Does the GPS work on opentango.

2008-09-09 Thread roguemoko
Robert William Hutton wrote:
 Orlando wrote:
   
 I tried this... 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep gpsd
 gpsd-conf - 2.34-r9 -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install gpsd
 An error ocurred, return value: 2.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install gps
 An error ocurred, return value: 2.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
 

 I think An error ocurred, return value: 2. roughly translates to I 
 can't access the packages.  Have you checked that your network 
 connection works?  The usual reason for it not working is an empty 
 /etc/resolv.conf.  First you need to move the symbolic link to the 
 non-existent file out of the way:

 cd /etc
 mv resolv.conf resolv.conf.old

 Then you need to create a new /etc/resolv.conf file and put in some 
 nameserver lines so that DNS resolving works.  You can either install 
 dnsmasq on your desktop computer and then put:

 nameserver 192.168.0.200

 into your resolv.conf, or you can just copy the contents of the 
 resolv.conf from your desktop to your openmoko.
   

I'd say you are spot on, there's no connectivity to the internet. I'd 
recommend standard troubleshooting (nslookup/traceroute/ping) but it 
likely to be your resolv.conf.

udhcpc alters /var/run/resolv.conf ... so I wouldn't suggest removing 
the symlink, as a continually changing value should not be written to 
flash. I'd script something up to edit /var/run/resolv.conf or for now 
just change it manually. If you're not network hopping then 
/etc/resolv.conf is a viable alternative but be aware that you will be 
breaking typical embedded system operation, as in, other programs will 
be altering /var/run/resolv.conf when setting the network parameters ... 
well I hope :S

Sarton

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Re: Where to get recent kernel and modules for debian now?

2008-09-09 Thread Christian Adams
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aahhh .. i knew i forgot something .. i do so since buildhost was not  
longer available and wanted to tell .. but i simply forgot :/

regarding the size: i think the old krnl comes with a lot debug- 
symbols ..

ciao, morlac

Am 08.09.2008 um 23:45 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 I tried to get the kernel from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/  
 and
 also downloaded the rootfs tar.gz. Than i extracted the
 /lib/modules/2.6.24/ directory out of it and copied the kernel and the
 modules to my debian system and did depomd -a. Than i added g_ether
 and ohci-hcd to /etc/modules and usb.
 And now i got the kernel from today running and it seems to work.

 I noticed that the old kernel has ~60MB modules while the actual one
 only has ~6MB. Maybe all the unnecessary stuff is left out or it is  
 just
 because it is from the testing branch.

 This is no one click solution but when it works i'm happy with it. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Thomas Markus wrote:
 Fox Mulder wrote:
 Hmm doesn't all the debian users update their original OM kernel  
 with
 the recent ones?
 Apt-get upgrade doesn't update the kernel and modules at all.

 Even the debian installer script still uses the old kernel and  
 modules
 from http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/ which is  
 from
 30. july. And i can see that in the latest kernels after around 4.
 september the sd-card corruption problem seems to be fixed by a  
 patch.
 So it would be nice if somewhere the corresponding modules to the  
 latest
 kernels where available. :)


 I'm currently using the om2008.8 kernel+all of the kernel-module
 packages from testing which gets upgraded through the default
 om2008.8-testing opkg-feed. As far as I am aware these instructions
 should be the same for the stable version as well.

 If you copy the /boot/uImage and the corresponding modules in
 /lib/modules/2.6.24 to the same folder in your debian installation
 everything should be fine. At the end you may want to run 'depmod -a'
 for the module dependencies.

 Don't forget to add the 'g_ether' and 'usbnet' (not completely sure
 about that one) modules to '/etc/modules' to enable USB-networking.

 Good luck.
 Thomas

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 00:29, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.sh start
 or ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe.sh /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe.sh
 to make it start up automatically on boot. (dont forget to remove the link in 
 /etc/rc5.d to xserver-nodm


Thanks.

But I still can't get it start : it goes to the empty screen with
blinking cursor at top, and stays stucked here.
Where should I look for a log of what is happening ?

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Re: Trouble Building Kernel

2008-09-09 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I wanted to build a kernel to get some drivers as modules instead of
built-in. I followed
|
| http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain

| + BRANCH='(no'

There doesn't seem to be an active branch in git?  Try making one active.

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Re: QTopia 4.3.3 doesn't suspend at first

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/9 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 I installed the last image from Lorn of QTopia 4.3.3
 I have a problem: when I start it, it seems like if QTopia thinks the FR is
 powered by USB, so it doesn't go to sleep after 30 seconds.
 If I plug it to USB, it then detects the cable (the screen brightness is
 higher).
 If I unplug it, it detects now that it's unplugged (the screen brightness
 is lower). And after that, it suspends after 30 seconds.

 So I think that at first boot, QTopia thinks it's connected to USB while it
 is not. And all becomes well after plug/unplug from USB.
 Where is the status of the plug/unplug stored?
 Have someone an idea where to look to debug?
 This is easily reproducible on my FR.
 Lorn?

 Thanks.
 -jec



This appends also for me... same thing
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Re: Where to get recent kernel and modules for debian now?

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
 And now i got the kernel from today running and it seems to work.

does suspending by holding pwr for about 4 secs still work?
i tried a kernel+module-tarball about two weeks ago and at least  
suspending that way stopped to work -- so i switched back to the  
installation kernel+modules.

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info request about u-boot_env

2008-09-09 Thread Nicolas LAURANCE

Hi all,

I managed to acces my SD Card (SanDisk SDSDQ-8192-E11M) using a slow 
500 clock.


My uboot version is 1.3.2-moko12
downloaded 9/6/2008 [1]_

.. [1] 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin


but here is more question about u-boot_env

Of course during my pilgrimage I borked completely my environment and 
had to use devirginator
I connected to the uboot boot prompt via putty and copied/pasted what I 
wanted.
I witnessed some strange chars on screen, I think my bork came for that 
reason


Question 1
---
I see that devirginator can generate a new boot config
and then it's just a matter of loading it with dfu-utils
Does anyone have spec of the file?
I'd rather have a small python script that can generate a conf from a 
text or xml file than edit with setenv
I understood (maybe wrongly ?) that it's a binary file that  requires to 
be of a certain size, include a CRC32 checksum 

Couldn't find more info on this list or the wiki

Question 2
---
When I had errors, the screens almost flashes on the error. I hadn't 
enough time to read it.

Is there a way to slow this ?

best regards
NiL
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Re: Get spare parts in NYC (batteries)

2008-09-09 Thread Thorben Krueger
the batteries should be pretty standart stuff. I got the same form
factor in my nokia (although it is a bit shorter, the connectors are
in the right place and the width is the same). I suggest you should
simply walk into the next mobile accessory store with the battery to
get a compatible one. No need to import anything if I am correct.

Thorben

2008/9/9 Stefan Fröbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I'll be in New York beginning of October and would like to purchase 2 spare
 batteries for my FR - any hints on where I could get them? Is there a local
 distributor or buyers group with active orders, by any chance?

 Thanks,

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Re: Get spare parts in NYC (batteries)

2008-09-09 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Yes, I know as I also own quite a few BC-5s and remakes ;-)
But I'm looking specifically for the original ones to have the coulomb
counter and a working charge meter...

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 the batteries should be pretty standart stuff. I got the same form
 factor in my nokia (although it is a bit shorter, the connectors are
 in the right place and the width is the same). I suggest you should
 simply walk into the next mobile accessory store with the battery to
 get a compatible one. No need to import anything if I am correct.

 Thorben

 2008/9/9 Stefan Fröbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi,
 
  I'll be in New York beginning of October and would like to purchase 2
 spare
  batteries for my FR - any hints on where I could get them? Is there a
 local
  distributor or buyers group with active orders, by any chance?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Stefan
 
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Re: Does the GPS work on opentango.

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
firstly:
- this is a support-list issue
- prefix your subject with at least the distribution you're using (2007.2,  
2008.8, fso, debian) and maybe the hardware (gta01, gta02)
to make it easier to help you


 When I run tangogps it tells me that I have no gps. It is weird because I
 have the agpsui program and it is working properly.

agpsui does not use gpsd but reads the device directly.
gpsd is in the repos -- simply install.

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Re: info request about u-boot_env

2008-09-09 Thread Tore Martin Hagen
Nicolas LAURANCE wrote:
 Hi all,

 I managed to acces my SD Card (SanDisk SDSDQ-8192-E11M) using a slow
 500 clock.

 My uboot version is 1.3.2-moko12
 downloaded 9/6/2008 [1]_

 .. [1]
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin

 but here is more question about u-boot_env

 Of course during my pilgrimage I borked completely my environment and
 had to use devirginator
 I connected to the uboot boot prompt via putty and copied/pasted what I
 wanted.
 I witnessed some strange chars on screen, I think my bork came for that
 reason

 Question 1
 ---
 I see that devirginator can generate a new boot config
 and then it's just a matter of loading it with dfu-utils
 Does anyone have spec of the file?
  I'd rather have a small python script that can generate a conf from a
 text or xml file than edit with setenv
 I understood (maybe wrongly ?) that it's a binary file that  requires to
 be of a certain size, include a CRC32 checksum 
 Couldn't find more info on this list or the wiki
   
It is a text file that starts with a 32 bit crc and then the rest is 
text where each parameter is separated with a \0 and a double \0\0 after 
the last. The rest of the partition is filled with 0xff. The crc is 
calculated over the hole flash partition.

You can get the crc code from U-Boot home page.

There must be a lot of people that has written a program for updating 
the U-Boot environment. (I have at my work, but I have to check if I can 
just publish it).

Tore Martin Hagen

 Question 2
 ---
 When I had errors, the screens almost flashes on the error. I hadn't
 enough time to read it.
 Is there a way to slow this ?

 best regards
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Re: new user issues

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
 I don't suppose you could tell me what file to look at? I've not seen

look below /etc for pulseaudio. there's a config file with sample in it.
the community archives of juni should contain a few messages describing  
how to do it.

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to
build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8Gb memory card
i ordered. I will surely send a report and maybe an image (where should i
send it?) when something works..

2008/9/9 Dennis. Yxun [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 someone already made this, I just haven't tried it,
  due to my poor network

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_Gentoo

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Re: new user issues

2008-09-09 Thread Dale Maggee
arne anka wrote:
 I don't suppose you could tell me what file to look at? I've not seen
 

 look below /etc for pulseaudio. there's a config file with sample in it.
 the community archives of juni should contain a few messages describing  
 how to do it.

   
you're referring to /etc/pulse/session, which has, by default:

load-sample ringtone /usr/share/openmoko/sounds/ringtone_classy.wav

this I knew, but Russell mentions changing the ringtone *format*, not 
just the tone. I've not seen anything about this.

did a search through the community list for /etc/pulse, didn't come up 
with any mention of it, and what I did see indicates that only wav is 
possible (which is what I thought)

Thanks,
-Dale

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
than everyone else :)

Rui

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Previdi Roberto wrote:
 Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to
 build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8Gb memory card
 i ordered. I will surely send a report and maybe an image (where should i
 send it?) when something works..
 
 2008/9/9 Dennis. Yxun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  someone already made this, I just haven't tried it,
   due to my poor network
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_Gentoo


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Re: Fennec on Openmoko

2008-09-09 Thread Didier Raboud
arne anka wrote:

 At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is
 also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon
 from mozilla. :)
 
 i recently found out about midori -- a small webkit based browser,
 available in the debian repositiories

I just tried midori.

The MEGA-fun is that it passes the Acid3 test (100%) !

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

2008-09-09 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 why it isn't possible to use the game at 480x640
 resolution?

It is possible. Modify the /home/root/.duke3d/duke3d.cfg file
to set 640x480, but you will see that it is too slow.

Rafa


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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/9 Rafael Ignacio Zurita [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  why it isn't possible to use the game at 480x640
  resolution?

 It is possible. Modify the /home/root/.duke3d/duke3d.cfg file
 to set 640x480, but you will see that it is too slow.

 Rafa


I done it yesterday but I get an error... cannot use 640x480 resolution...
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Re: Fennec on Openmoko

2008-09-09 Thread Michele Renda
Someone know something about this? (Midori):

a) How to remove the string: you are using a root account (without
creating a non root account)
b) How to make the address bar a bit larger (to fill the screen!)

Thank you
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] up and running :)

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
Thanks to Michael Siloh, 
I can proudly annouce the opening of the spanish openmoko list,
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/local-openmoko-spain 

This intended to help the spanish non-english skilled users to help and
be helped by the Openmoko community, the spanish skilled-enough users
will act as bridge between international and local group
Any english spanish-skilled are welcome  :), even anyone
anything-skilled are welcome too :)

So to avoid any flamewar, the idea is to make the community grow not to
split it. So I encorage anyone to do the same for his localgroup.

we also have an nabble interface

http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-spanish-community-list-f1077272.html

meanwhile has not been published in the new list ,you can look at the
old messages in google groups list at 

http://groups.google.es/group/openmoko-spain

Best Regards and thanks  again Michael for all the efford  and to no
smash the BT fly (any one asking himself what a BT fly is please send
a private mail directly to me :) )


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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

2008-09-09 Thread nickd
Make sure it's portrait style 480x640 not 640x480. Unless that was a typo.

Also, has anyone found a workaround for that 'multivoc' error? 
Pulseaudio is not installed.

-Nick

Thomas Bertani wrote:


 2008/9/9 Rafael Ignacio Zurita [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  why it isn't possible to use the game at 480x640
  resolution?

 It is possible. Modify the /home/root/.duke3d/duke3d.cfg file
 to set 640x480, but you will see that it is too slow.

 Rafa


 I done it yesterday but I get an error... cannot use 640x480 resolution...
 

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Re: new user issues

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
 this I knew, but Russell mentions changing the ringtone *format*, not
 just the tone. I've not seen anything about this.

sorry, must have missed that.
re format i remember somebody posting a patch for python, that enabled  
something. and i think, it was for 2007.2 (since i skip most other  
distributions) -- but it was a while ago and not pulse related.
you should look for sid or ogg, maybe ...

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
 than everyone else :)

Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on 
embedded systems? 

 Rui

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Previdi Roberto wrote:
  Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to
  build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8Gb memory
  card i ordered. I will surely send a report and maybe an image (where
  should i send it?) when something works..
 
  2008/9/9 Dennis. Yxun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   someone already made this, I just haven't tried it,
due to my poor network
  
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_Gentoo



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how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
I want to compile (with ./configure;make;make install) a software from
source on the neo freerunner without sdk or toolchain, directly from the
phone.

What I have to install?
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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread sparky mat
I think you need to apt-get the following:

binutils g++ cpp libc6-dev

(I think you might need g++-symlinks cpp-symlinks - not sure if they are
pulled in automatically)

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
i was thinking about installing it completely on the external microsd, so
there shouldn't be any problem of this sort.. but anyway.. dfu-util is
always there :)
and speaking about gentoo, i trust portage nearly as much as i trust
make..

roby

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]wrote:

 I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
 than everyone else :)

 Rui

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Previdi Roberto wrote:
  Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to
  build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8Gb memory
 card
  i ordered. I will surely send a report and maybe an image (where should i
  send it?) when something works..
 
  2008/9/9 Dennis. Yxun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   someone already made this, I just haven't tried it,
due to my poor network
  
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_Gentoo


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Re: Trouble Building Kernel

2008-09-09 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 I wanted to build a kernel to get some drivers as modules instead of 
 built-in. I followed
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
 
 When I went to build the kernel, I had to change the 'build' script to point 
 to the toolchain. After that was fixed, I got this error when running the 
 'build' script.
 
 # configuration written to .config
 #
 + VERSION=
 + '[' -d .git ']'
 ++ git show --pretty=oneline
 ++ cut '-d ' -f1
 ++ cut -b1-16
 ++ head -n1
 + HEAD=ca19d156400f8179
 ++ git branch
 ++ grep '^*'
 ++ cut '-d ' -f2
 + BRANCH='(no'
 + VERSION='-(no_ca19d156400f8179'
 + make -j5 ARCH=arm 'EXTRAVERSION=-(no_ca19d156400f8179'
   CHK include/linux/version.h
   SYMLINK include/asm-arm/arch - include/asm-arm/arch-s3c2410
 /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
 /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `echo 2.6.24-(no_ca19d156400f8179  
 include/config/kernel.release'
 make: *** [include/config/kernel.release] Error 2
 make: INTERNAL: Exiting with 6 jobserver tokens available; should be 5!
 + exit 1

Otherwise a workaround is editing the build file hardcoding there the 
branch name. I had this issue too.

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Timing issue

2008-09-09 Thread Andreas Fischer
Hi all,

Does anyone else have the problem of the internal clock being off by a
few hours after rebooting the device? It seems to happen randomly to me
(I have not yet determined a definite cause for it) - but sometimes
after a reboot, the time on the phone is 2h earlier than it should be.
I'd suspect some inconsistency with the timezone, but it hasn't changed
and is still displayed correctly (Germany/Berlin). Has anyone else
experienced this?

Regards,
Andreas Fischer

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Re: Trouble Building Kernel

2008-09-09 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:38:41PM +0800, Andy Green wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | I wanted to build a kernel to get some drivers as modules instead of
 built-in. I followed
 |
 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
 
 | + BRANCH='(no'
 
 There doesn't seem to be an active branch in git?  Try making one active.
I'll adjust the wiki once i figure out the command. Maybe you can help me 
along. Should I use 

git-checkout -b mystable origin/stable  ?

Excuse my ignorance, but I'm brand new to git.

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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
i love you.. i've been able to compile wget from sources.
i had to install the gettext package too, to get the msgfmt binary.

the report of time make is:

real 4m 54,26
user 4m 21.92
sys 0m 25,34

so it seems that the cpu is busy making qpe survive.. anyway less than 5
minutes to get a complete and functional wget running is really
acceptable... ok, i'm going to download some offline sites :)

roby

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:22 PM, sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think you need to apt-get the following:

 binutils g++ cpp libc6-dev

 (I think you might need g++-symlinks cpp-symlinks - not sure if they are
 pulled in automatically)

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 I want to compile (with ./configure;make;make install) a software from
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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/9 sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think you need to apt-get the following:

 binutils g++ cpp libc6-dev

 (I think you might need g++-symlinks cpp-symlinks - not sure if they are
 pulled in automatically)


Thanks, binutils is what I was searching for
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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Thomas Bertani wrote:
 I want to compile (with ./configure;make;make install) a software from 
 source on the neo freerunner without sdk or toolchain, directly from the 
 phone.
 
 What I have to install?

Well, wouldn't it so slow? It's a 400Mhz, btw! :P

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Every booting, splash was changed to openmoko screeen.

2008-09-09 Thread Дмитрий Попов
Hi All

Only 3 sec I can see nice boots and next time change back to standard
openmoko screen.
Who have solution for resolving problem.(Neo FreeRunner)
B.R
Popov Dmitry
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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/9 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thomas Bertani wrote:
  I want to compile (with ./configure;make;make install) a software from
  source on the neo freerunner without sdk or toolchain, directly from the
  phone.
 
  What I have to install?

 Well, wouldn't it so slow? It's a 400Mhz, btw! :P



I have to compile a simple software...
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[qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
I tried to compile gnuboy both in qtopia and openmoko (2008.8 update) but
the same error occurres when I type make


cc1: warning: -f[no-]force-mem is nop and option will be removed in 4.2
In file included from sys/linux/joy.c:6:
/usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__s64'
make: *** [sys/linux/joy.o] Error 1



Why? Oo
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Re: new user issues

2008-09-09 Thread Dale Maggee
arne anka wrote:
 this I knew, but Russell mentions changing the ringtone *format*, not
 just the tone. I've not seen anything about this.
 

 sorry, must have missed that.
 re format i remember somebody posting a patch for python, that enabled  
 something. and i think, it was for 2007.2 (since i skip most other  
 distributions) -- but it was a while ago and not pulse related.
 you should look for sid or ogg, maybe ...

   
tried various searches: sid, ogg, python ring, and others which I 
can't remember. Nothing promising that I didn't already know...

I'd be really appreciative if you could dig up any more info on this, 
especially sids! I'm hanging out to see what FSO milestone 3 is like, 
mainly because it supports sid ringtones! ;)

thanks for the tips, anyway

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Re: Timing issue

2008-09-09 Thread Harald Koenig
On Sep 09, Andreas Fischer wrote:

 Does anyone else have the problem of the internal clock being off by a
 few hours after rebooting the device? It seems to happen randomly to me
 (I have not yet determined a definite cause for it) - but sometimes
 after a reboot, the time on the phone is 2h earlier than it should be.
 I'd suspect some inconsistency with the timezone, but it hasn't changed
 and is still displayed correctly (Germany/Berlin). Has anyone else
 experienced this?

it's not random but the difference between your time zone (MEST) and UTC. 
see

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1851


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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
  I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
  than everyone else :)
 
 Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on 
 embedded systems? 

No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me is
an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
distribution ;)

Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)

Rui

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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
yes it's slow, but it's all in the emotion.. You don't have a real linux
system if you cannot compile code in it...

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Thomas Bertani wrote:
  I want to compile (with ./configure;make;make install) a software from
  source on the neo freerunner without sdk or toolchain, directly from the
  phone.
 
  What I have to install?

 Well, wouldn't it so slow? It's a 400Mhz, btw! :P

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
   I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
   than everyone else :)
  
  Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on 
  embedded systems? 
 
 No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me is
 an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
 distribution ;)
 
 Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)
Why would it kill the flash?

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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
 cc1: warning: -f[no-]force-mem is nop and option will be removed in 4.2

that's only a warning, should be save to ignore.

 In file included from sys/linux/joy.c:6:
 /usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: expected  
 specifier-qualifier-list
 before '__s64'

google has a few hits for that:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg08533.html
 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/missing-prerequisite-headers-596947/?s=ec4b18f0554ce5978836267aebcae420

seems to be some issue with amd64 and ansi, if the assumptions of the  
links still hold true.
might be sensible, to let configure disable joystick?

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread dennis

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 写道:
 Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)
   
we cross-compile the package in our desktop, just like debian's distro
then install the binary *.tbz2 into the FR.

the goodness here is that we can leverage the dignity of gentoo package
manage system.

And for the flash devices? we don't compile package on it, so I see no
difference
although it may consume some extra space, but that's the last thing i
care about
 Rui

   


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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/9 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  cc1: warning: -f[no-]force-mem is nop and option will be removed in 4.2

 that's only a warning, should be save to ignore.

  In file included from sys/linux/joy.c:6:
  /usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: expected
  specifier-qualifier-list
  before '__s64'

 google has a few hits for that:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg08533.html
 
 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/missing-prerequisite-headers-596947/?s=ec4b18f0554ce5978836267aebcae420

 seems to be some issue with amd64 and ansi, if the assumptions of the
 links still hold true.
 might be sensible, to let configure disable joystick?


how to disable joystick ? oO
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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
 how to disable joystick ? oO

./configure --help
?



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Qtopia Media Player + Pulseaudio = hurt

2008-09-09 Thread Dylan Reilly
Under current 2008 testing builds, playing (compressed) music through the
qtopia media player causes pulseaudio spike to crazy levels of cpu
utilization (~ 50%). This is on top the load for the media player itself
(~30%). Needless to say, this makes the poor FR incapable of decompressing
the music in a timely fashion.

The GTK openmoko media player does not have this issue. (In 2008, does the
GTK media player have the patch to bypass pulse as it did in 2007?)

Is this a known issue or one I should bug? I remember being able to listen
to music through the Qtopia media player not too long ago.

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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
yuppie, thanks a lot, I compliled it usccessfully, but now, when I try to
launch the app, I get this error...

SDL: can't set video mode: No video mode large enough for 160x144
Signal 11


how can I solve it?
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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Myers

On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  
wrote:

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:

On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory  
sooner

than everyone else :)


Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using  
Gentoo on

embedded systems?


No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back  
at me is

an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
distribution ;)

Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices  
sooner ;)

Why would it kill the flash?


With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile everything?

I know that I have gentoo on a MythTV box, and when installing  
anything heavy, forget using it for 1/2 to 3/4 of a day.


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gsm log on my gta02 makes mention of gta01

2008-09-09 Thread Stephen Shelton
I installed 2008.8 last night and GSM worked well immediately on boot. I did a
number of things, particularly opkg update / opkg upgrade (although the latter
output nothing).

After rebooting, gsm ceased to work. I pull up it's log and keep seeing output
attributed to a machine_gta01.c. Perhaps said code should work wight gta02, but
regardless the gsm is not working. Here is my log file about 8 minutes into
restarting gsm:

Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 6 log.c:106:gsmdlog_init() logfile successfully 
opened  
 
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 machine.c:131:gsmd_machine_plugin_init() detected 
'GTA02' hardware
 
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 machine.c:72:gsmd_machine_plugin_load() loading 
machine plugin gta01  
   
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 vendor.c:75:gsmd_vendor_plugin_load() loading 
vendor plugin ti  
 
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 machine.c:56:gsmd_machine_plugin_find() selecting 
machine plugin TI Calypso / FIC firmware  
 
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 atcmd.c:691:atcmd_drain() c_iflag = 0x, 
c_oflag = 0x, c_cflag = 0x800018b2, c_lflag = 0x0a00
   
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 vendor.c:59:gsmd_vendor_plugin_find() selecting 
vendor plugin TI Calypso  
   
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 atcmd.c:651:atcmd_submit() extra-submiting command 


Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 machine_gta01.c:142:atcmd_wakeup_modem() try to 
wake up 
   
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 atcmd.c:654:atcmd_submit() submitting command 
`ATZ'   
 
Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 1 machine_gta01.c:134:wakeup_timer() Create wake up 
timer   
 
Tue Sep  9 09:30:28 2008 1 machine_gta01.c:96:wakeup_timeout() Wakeup time 
out!!   
   
Tue Sep  9 09:30:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:593:discard_timer() Create discard timer   


Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:555:discard_timeout() discard time out!!   


Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 7 gsmd.c:218:firstcmd_atcb() response 'Timeout' to 
initial command invalidTue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:651:atcmd_submit()
extra-submiting command
Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 machine_gta01.c:142:atcmd_wakeup_modem() try to 
wake up 
   
Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:654:atcmd_submit() submitting command 
`ATE0V1'
 
Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:651:atcmd_submit() extra-submiting command 


Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 machine_gta01.c:142:atcmd_wakeup_modem() try to 
wake up 
   
Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:654:atcmd_submit() submitting command 
`AT+CRC=1'  
 
Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 atcmd.c:651:atcmd_submit() extra-submiting command 


Tue Sep  9 09:31:28 2008 1 machine_gta01.c:142:atcmd_wakeup_modem() try to 
wake up 

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
Sorry, i have to correct: the guide i am following is this one:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/User:TuXXX

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Previdi Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to
 build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8Gb memory card
 i ordered. I will surely send a report and maybe an image (where should i
 send it?) when something works..

 2008/9/9 Dennis. Yxun [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 someone already made this, I just haven't tried it,
  due to my poor network

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_Gentoo

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Re: Trouble Building Kernel

2008-09-09 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:38:41PM +0800, Andy Green wrote:
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 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | I wanted to build a kernel to get some drivers as modules instead of
 built-in. I followed
 |
 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
 
 | + BRANCH='(no'
 
 There doesn't seem to be an active branch in git?  Try making one active.
OK. That worked. I've built the kernel with no errors. Now how do I build the 
modules? I would have to copy these to the freerunner before flashing the new 
kernel, from what I understand.
 
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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 07:25:59AM -0700, Rodney Myers wrote:
 On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
 than everyone else :)

 Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on
 embedded systems?

 No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me 
 is
 an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
 distribution ;)

 Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)
 Why would it kill the flash?

 With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile everything?

 I know that I have gentoo on a MythTV box, and when installing anything 
 heavy, forget using it for 1/2 to 3/4 of a day.
See Dennis's reply. 



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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
You can allways use compiled package and avoid to compile anything on
gentoo,, and due we all use almos the same machine is no sense to compile
over and over again, only if you find that a packges is not already
compliled you can do it your self and the share with the rest to avoid it.

Regards

David Samblas

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:

 On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
 than everyone else :)


 Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on
 embedded systems?


 No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me
 is
 an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
 distribution ;)

 Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)

 Why would it kill the flash?


 With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile everything?

 I know that I have gentoo on a MythTV box, and when installing anything
 heavy, forget using it for 1/2 to 3/4 of a day.

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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread arne anka
 SDL: can't set video mode: No video mode large enough for 160x144

can't really help you there.
have a look at google and check maybe with fbset what idea sdl might have  
of your screen.

 http://doc.freevo.org/FAQ#head-a6b386d46c6dd5694353689a4017ccfbcaf19ee9

here's one related to zaurus
 http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25605
that blames the portrait mode. sdl seesm to ecpect landscape (4:3, not 3:4)

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FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
Hi there,
you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel
image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps
already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.

here you have more detailed information

http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt

I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server
seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way

Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome

Regards and a hug

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Re: Fennec on Openmoko

2008-09-09 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michele Renda wrote:
 Someone know something about this? (Midori):
 
 a) How to remove the string: you are using a root account (without 
 creating a non root account)

I had made a patch for it; just grep the code for that string, disabling 
that bar is easy as comment the code ;)

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Qtopia issues (dialing/receiving calls simultaneously, suspend problems, alarm, time)

2008-09-09 Thread Matthew Lane
Hello,

I'd like to add that I've also confirmed that suspend bug where 
sometimes the FR just does not want to wake up and I have to pop out the 
battery.  Also, sometimes my FR does not wake up on SMS (it USUALLY 
does) and I have to wake the FR up myself, and then it receives my SMS 
messages.

Also, the FR seems to have problems when calling out and receiving an 
incoming call at the same time.  It creates multiple instances of a 
phone call (which I'm assuming it's wanting to do), but answering or 
talking on either one is impossible.  End call doesn't really work as 
once you've closed the dialer you're sometimes still connected.

Also, my alarm feature has stopped working.  The alarm simply won't go 
off at the designated time.  For example, I set my alarm for 9:30am, and 
the alarm goes off at 9:45pm.  Setting the alarm for 9:15pm 
unfortunately does not make the alarm go off at 9:30am (missed a class :( ).

As for time, when I set the Time  Date to Automatic, the time and 
date is an hour off.

Also, my uSD card still isn't recognizable on qtopia (it is under 
2007.2), but other than that this distro is amazing because the phone is 
actually usable as an every-day phone.  I love the battery life 
(actually 1 full day) and usability.  Thanks for hard work!

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread Dale Maggee
wow, very cool stuff, a hug back!

I haven't checked it out yet, but I will tomorrow (it's 2am here, past 
bedtime) ;)


David Samblas wrote:
 Hi there,
 you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel
 image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps
 already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.

 here you have more detailed information

 http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt

 I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server
 seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way

 Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome

 Regards and a hug

 David Samblas
   


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Re: Qtopia Media Player + Pulseaudio = hurt

2008-09-09 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Dylan Reilly wrote:
 Under current 2008 testing builds, playing (compressed) music through 
 the qtopia media player causes pulseaudio spike to crazy levels of cpu 
 utilization (~ 50%). This is on top the load for the media player itself 
 (~30%). Needless to say, this makes the poor FR incapable of 
 decompressing the music in a timely fashion.

Well, can you really play music with that player? I'm using the 2008.8 
but I can't :o.
Maybe am I missing some lib (I've only libpulse0, for example...)?!

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread Craig B. Allen
 you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel
 image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps
 already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.

Does this include a fix to SD card corruption upon suspending?

- Craig

p.s. looks interesting - installing now!

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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Bertani
ehm... there is also a fbgnuboy executable oO
when I try to launch it, I get the error message controlling terminal is
not the graphics console both via ssh and via terminal on the neo... (under
qtopia).
Via ssh after getting this error, I also get disconnected from ssh...

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Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Maciej Delmanowski
On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner can
 power a hub and two adapters)

I've thought about different idea - can FreeRunner be powered from USB power
adaper connected to the USB hub? Like this:


  Power plug
  |
  |
   USB Hub---Ethernet, thumb drive, other devices
  |
  |
 FreeRunner

That would probably solved power requirements... But it's still 220V (or 110V)
attached indirectly to the USB network, is it safe ('cause I have no idea...)?
For example, can I connect another computer through USB or Ethernet card with
that configuration?

harnir

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] up and running :)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
David Samblas wrote:
 Thanks to Michael Siloh, 
 I can proudly annouce the opening of the spanish openmoko list,
 http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/local-openmoko-spain 
 
 This intended to help the spanish non-english skilled users to help and
 be helped by the Openmoko community, the spanish skilled-enough users
 will act as bridge between international and local group
 Any english spanish-skilled are welcome  :), even anyone
 anything-skilled are welcome too :)
 
 So to avoid any flamewar, the idea is to make the community grow not to
 split it. So I encorage anyone to do the same for his localgroup.
 

Thanks to David, really, for initiating the Spanish group, for creating 
the original Spanish list, and for helping me get the list moved to 
Openmoko.

Openmoko is proud to support the Spanish local Openmoko group, and
Openmoko encourages the formation of other local Openmoko groups.

A mailing list seems like a useful tool, not to split the community, but 
to allow conversation that may not be relevant to the world at large 
(e.g. meetings or group purchases or, in this case, discussion in a 
different language).

I'll be happy to create mailing lists as needed. For the time being we 
are doing this under the umbrella of the local-openmoko project. Email 
me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to request such a list.

(The San Francisco local Openmoko Group, in contrast, has been invited 
to  simply use the San Francisco Linux User's Group mailing list, at 
least until we become a nuisance to them.)

I'll create a wiki page for local Openmoko groups, and look forward to 
adding more.

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
Yes you can use gentoo with binary packages, but you loose the great
configurability given by the tuning of the USE flags... i think it's better
if i can manage to crosscompile from my desktop, and then copy the generated
binary on the moko. slower, but more flexible..

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:28 PM, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 You can allways use compiled package and avoid to compile anything on
 gentoo,, and due we all use almos the same machine is no sense to compile
 over and over again, only if you find that a packges is not already
 compliled you can do it your self and the share with the rest to avoid it.

 Regards

 David Samblas

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:

 On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
 than everyone else :)


 Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on
 embedded systems?


 No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me
 is
 an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
 distribution ;)

 Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)

 Why would it kill the flash?


 With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile everything?

 I know that I have gentoo on a MythTV box, and when installing anything
 heavy, forget using it for 1/2 to 3/4 of a day.

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Re: Get spare parts in NYC (batteries)

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel Benoy
Have you considered a spares pack?
http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/spares-pack

On Tuesday 09 September 2008 04:12:09 Stefan Fröbe wrote:
 Yes, I know as I also own quite a few BC-5s and remakes ;-)
 But I'm looking specifically for the original ones to have the coulomb
 counter and a working charge meter...
 
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  the batteries should be pretty standart stuff. I got the same form
  factor in my nokia (although it is a bit shorter, the connectors are
  in the right place and the width is the same). I suggest you should
  simply walk into the next mobile accessory store with the battery to
  get a compatible one. No need to import anything if I am correct.
 
  Thorben
 
  2008/9/9 Stefan Fröbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Hi,
  
   I'll be in New York beginning of October and would like to purchase 2
  spare
   batteries for my FR - any hints on where I could get them? Is there a
  local
   distributor or buyers group with active orders, by any chance?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Stefan
  
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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Previdi Roberto wrote:
 yes it's slow, but it's all in the emotion.. You don't have a real linux 
 system if you cannot compile code in it...
 

Oooh! T-shirt! Perhaps with a picture of a compilation taking place on a 
FreeRunner!

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T-shirt store (was: Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Previdi Roberto wrote:
 yes it's slow, but it's all in the emotion.. You don't have a real linux 
 system if you cannot compile code in it...



 

Oooh! T-shirt! Perhaps with a picture of a compilation taking place on a 
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T-shirt store (was: Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Previdi Roberto wrote:
 yes it's slow, but it's all in the emotion.. You don't have a real linux 
 system if you cannot compile code in it...



 

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel Benoy
Does anyone have an overlay or something that lets you install illume, 
frameworkd, etc?

On Monday 08 September 2008 20:59:22 Dennis.Yxun wrote:
 HI Devs:
 
 As a die-hard Gentoo fans, I'd be happy to see someone
 
 deliver a Gentoo openmoko distribution which leverage the greatness of
 portage.
 
 Thank you, It's really great!
 
I'm downloading stage now, but due to my poor network,
 
 the download speed is quite low, and It about takes me 5Ds to finish the
 stage1 tarball~
 
 so I'm thinking about build the system all by myself.
 
I've have some experience of setting up the cross-compiler tools in
 Gentoo,
 
 but find it's not easy to build the base system... I may try this later, and
 post here.
 
 Proposal, Can we setup an openmoko-gentoo overlay, so people who are
 interested
 
 to this may build on it. And also people can contribute same ebuilds back.
 



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Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers

2008-09-09 Thread Juergen Schinker
Hello

i searched this Mailinglist for the word thanks in the Subject and i 
couldn't find one so  


I want to thank everyone from Openmoko and all other devs who contribute 
to this outstanding project

the combination of Open Source and Open Hardware is just brilliant.


My Thanks go to Sean Moss-Pultz
Harald Welte
Michael Lauer
Holger Freyther
Joseph Reeves
Thomas Wood
Andy Allen for Gravitystorm.co.uk
Marcus Bauer for tangoGPS
Andy ScaredyCat Powell
Chris Ball
Guillaume Chereau
Marcin hrw Juszkiewicz
Paul V. Borza
Valério Valério

and all the other i probably forgot

I enjoy my Freerunner everyday and can't wait for all the great appl. to 
come (even when i don't use it as a phone yet)

Thanks

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Re: Does the GPS work on opentango.

2008-09-09 Thread Orlando
Hi to all,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gpsd_2.34-r9_armv4t.opk
Downloading
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gpsd_2.34-r9_armv4t.opk
Multiple packages (gpsd and gpsd) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
 Using latest.
Installing gpsd (2.34-r9) to root...
Installing gpsd-gpsctl (2.34-r9) to root...
Downloading
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gpsd-gpsctl_2.34-r9_armv4t.opk
Installing libgps16 (2.34-r9) to root...
Downloading
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libgps16_2.34-r9_armv4t.opk
Configuring gpsd
 Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/gpsd.
Starting gpsd: success

Configuring gpsd-gpsctl
Configuring libgps16
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#


gpsd is now installed and working...

thanks for everything :)

-Orlando.



On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:15 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 firstly:
 - this is a support-list issue
 - prefix your subject with at least the distribution you're using (2007.2,
 2008.8, fso, debian) and maybe the hardware (gta01, gta02)
 to make it easier to help you


  When I run tangogps it tells me that I have no gps. It is weird because I
  have the agpsui program and it is working properly.

 agpsui does not use gpsd but reads the device directly.
 gpsd is in the repos -- simply install.

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread Jay Vaughan
 p.s. looks interesting - installing now!


after a long hiatus away from the freerunner hacking for a month or so  
(hey, so i got an iphone, sue me!) i am very glad to see that there  
are folks now sharing booting images!  this is gotta be good for  
freerunner now, which btw i -have- been using as a main cell phone a  
bit more recently as well too (iphone calls are expensive), so there  
is trepidation about taking my - Working Freerunner - and putting some  
random image on it!

but, thats what its for, so .. here goes!! me too :)


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Re: Qtopia Media Player + Pulseaudio = hurt

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 10:44:21 Dylan Reilly wrote:
 Under current 2008 testing builds, playing (compressed) music through the
 qtopia media player causes pulseaudio spike to crazy levels of cpu
 utilization (~ 50%). This is on top the load for the media player itself
 (~30%). Needless to say, this makes the poor FR incapable of decompressing
 the music in a timely fashion.
 
 The GTK openmoko media player does not have this issue. (In 2008, does the
 GTK media player have the patch to bypass pulse as it did in 2007?)
 
 Is this a known issue or one I should bug? I remember being able to listen
 to music through the Qtopia media player not too long ago.
 

How do you get music selections to come up in the list in the media player?

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
:) please let make spectations at safety levels :) FDOM is not more than
a few opkg installs, a little bit of glue here and a few painting there
but basically stills a OM2008.8-update :)

Jay (and others) I sugesst you to backup your own image first , just as
precaution :).

Here is a method i have used to generate the image of FSDOM.

on  Neo(or though an ssh session on Neo)

opkg mkfs-jffs2
mkdir  /var/tmp/root
mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /var/tmp/root

on PC

(pv used to se the progres of the operation, executed on ubuntu 8.04,
change neos ip if needed)
sudo aptitude install pv

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mkfs.jffs2 -d /var/tmp/root -e 128 --pad
--no-cleanmarkers -x lzo | pv -W 
the_name_of_your_rootfs_image_here.jffs2

scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot/uImage-2.6.24
the_name_of_your_kernel_image_here.bin

Regards and thanks you all :)
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 19:09 +0200, Jay Vaughan escribió:
  p.s. looks interesting - installing now!
 
 
 after a long hiatus away from the freerunner hacking for a month or so  
 (hey, so i got an iphone, sue me!) i am very glad to see that there  
 are folks now sharing booting images!  this is gotta be good for  
 freerunner now, which btw i -have- been using as a main cell phone a  
 bit more recently as well too (iphone calls are expensive), so there  
 is trepidation about taking my - Working Freerunner - and putting some  
 random image on it!
 
 but, thats what its for, so .. here goes!! me too :)
 
 
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Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy

2008-09-09 Thread Chris Hogan
Have you tried setting the resolution on the command line?

Something like this:

sdlgnuboy --vmode=480,640,32 tetris.gb

Chris.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yuppie, thanks a lot, I compliled it usccessfully, but now, when I try to
 launch the app, I get this error...

 SDL: can't set video mode: No video mode large enough for 160x144
 Signal 11


 how can I solve it?

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Re: Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers

2008-09-09 Thread Paul V. Borza
Thanks Juergen :)
Paul

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Juergen Schinker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hello

 i searched this Mailinglist for the word thanks in the Subject and i
 couldn't find one so  


 I want to thank everyone from Openmoko and all other devs who contribute
 to this outstanding project

 the combination of Open Source and Open Hardware is just brilliant.


 My Thanks go to Sean Moss-Pultz
Harald Welte
Michael Lauer
Holger Freyther
Joseph Reeves
Thomas Wood
Andy Allen for Gravitystorm.co.uk
Marcus Bauer for tangoGPS
Andy ScaredyCat Powell
Chris Ball
Guillaume Chereau
Marcin hrw Juszkiewicz
Paul V. Borza
Valério Valério

and all the other i probably forgot

 I enjoy my Freerunner everyday and can't wait for all the great appl. to
 come (even when i don't use it as a phone yet)

 Thanks

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Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Michele Renda
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Hello

I want to share something that I found in a shop:

http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html

With it I could use the shipped cable (Usb to Micro Usb) to attach a
pendrive to my FR and to get my FR running.

It cost around 1.50 euro, and it seem to be cheap to me. The good think
is that it permit to use the provided cable and to don't risk to brak
the micro usb part inside the FR.

What do you think about it?

Michele Renda
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alarm clock

2008-09-09 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi,

just upgraded my openmoko to todays updates, and hooray: alarm now
wakes from suspend and sounds the alert ... almost that is:
It seems to be off in time (delayed) by the amount of time you specify
in the blank screen option, and each time you change that option, the
new time gets added to the delay.
So first I got 1 minute off, then I started testing and playing with
the blank/suspend and alarm times.
All of the sudden it was 2 minutes off, untill I set my blank time to
30s and no suspend time. And there it was: 2m30s off.
Again I changed my blank time, this time to 1 minute. Now the delay is
2m40s ... weird  maybe it is delayed an extra 10 seconds every time
you reset the alarm to a new time?

Anybody else did some testing?

Franky

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Re: Qtopia Media Player + Pulseaudio = hurt

2008-09-09 Thread Dylan Reilly
I did nothing special, but I have had configurations where there was no
music listed in the program.

Where, specifically (i.e., directory and partition) do you have your music
stored?

Did your FR suspend once before you ran the program? Suspending right now
under testing borks the SD card mount point.

Also try killing qpe and letting it restart.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 09 September 2008 10:44:21 Dylan Reilly wrote:
  Under current 2008 testing builds, playing (compressed) music through the
  qtopia media player causes pulseaudio spike to crazy levels of cpu
  utilization (~ 50%). This is on top the load for the media player itself
  (~30%). Needless to say, this makes the poor FR incapable of
 decompressing
  the music in a timely fashion.
 
  The GTK openmoko media player does not have this issue. (In 2008, does
 the
  GTK media player have the patch to bypass pulse as it did in 2007?)
 
  Is this a known issue or one I should bug? I remember being able to
 listen
  to music through the Qtopia media player not too long ago.
 

 How do you get music selections to come up in the list in the media player?

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Re: how to compile from source directly from a neo freerunner

2008-09-09 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Previdi Roberto wrote:
  yes it's slow, but it's all in the emotion.. You don't have a real linux
  system if you cannot compile code in it...
 

 Oooh! T-shirt! Perhaps with a picture of a compilation taking place on a
 FreeRunner!


Fine somebody asked for it i paste some lines of a 1974  now  compiling perl
5.8.8


make[1]: Entering directory `/home/root/loro/perl-5.8.8/ext/PerlIO/scalar'
cp scalar.pm ../../../lib/PerlIO/scalar.pm
../../../miniperl -I../../../lib -I../../../lib
../../../lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp  -typemap ../../../lib/ExtUtils/typemap
scalar.xs  scalar.xsc  mv scalar.xsc scalar.c
cc -c   -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement
-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O2   -DVERSION=\0.04\
-DXS_VERSION=\0.04\ -fpic -I../../..   scalar.c
Running Mkbootstrap for PerlIO::scalar ()
chmod 644 scalar.bs
rm -f ../../../lib/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.so
cc  -shared scalar.o  -o ../../../lib/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.so \
 \

chmod 755 ../../../lib/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.so
cp scalar.bs ../../../lib/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.bs
chmod 644 ../../../lib/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.bs
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/root/loro/perl-5.8.8/ext/PerlIO/scalar'

Making PerlIO::via (dynamic)
Writing Makefile for PerlIO::via
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/root/loro/perl-5.8.8/ext/PerlIO/via'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/root/loro/perl-5.8.8/ext/PerlIO/via'
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/root/loro/perl-5.8.8/ext/PerlIO/via'
cp via.pm ../../../lib/PerlIO/via.pm
(lot of lines)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/root/loro/perl-5.8.8/ext/Errno'

lib/CPAN/Config.pm initialized.


CPAN is the world-wide archive of perl resources. It consists of about
100 sites that all replicate the same contents all around the globe.
Many countries have at least one CPAN site already. The resources
found on CPAN are easily accessible with the CPAN.pm module. If you
want to use CPAN.pm, you have to configure it properly.

If you do not want to enter a dialog now, you can answer 'no' to this
question and I'll try to autoconfigure. (Note: you can revisit this
dialog anytime later by typing 'o conf init' at the cpan prompt.)

Are you ready for manual configuration? [yes]

I'm goin to acept the default
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gta02 kernel for qemu

2008-09-09 Thread Pupino
Hi all,
i was trying to emulate the gta02 on qemu, but i find i can't patch the
kernel.
I'm following the instructions included in the README in the qemu/openmoko
folder.
What fail is this:
cg-switch -r fbfbc5130075e233f2fd2613e2897c3c4ed4bc7f gta02fake

and fails telling:
error: unable to find fbfbc5130075e233f2fd2613e2897c3c4ed4bc7f
fatal: git-cat-file fbfbc5130075e233f2fd2613e2897c3c4ed4bc7f: bad file
error: unable to find fbfbc5130075e233f2fd2613e2897c3c4ed4bc7f
fatal: git-cat-file fbfbc5130075e233f2fd2613e2897c3c4ed4bc7f: bad file
Invalid commit id: fbfbc5130075e233f2fd2613e2897c3c4ed4bc7f

any one knows what's wrong?

Thanks in advance.
Davide
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Re: gsm log on my gta02 makes mention of gta01

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas B.
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:49:22AM -0500, Stephen Shelton wrote:
 I installed 2008.8 last night and GSM worked well immediately on boot. I did a
 number of things, particularly opkg update / opkg upgrade (although the latter
 output nothing).
 
 After rebooting, gsm ceased to work. I pull up it's log and keep seeing output
 attributed to a machine_gta01.c. Perhaps said code should work wight gta02, 
 but
 regardless the gsm is not working. Here is my log file about 8 minutes into
 restarting gsm:
 
 Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 6 log.c:106:gsmdlog_init() logfile successfully 
 opened
 [...]
 ...and this pattern continues...
 
 Any hints would be appreciated.

Do you have gsmd and qtopia-phone-x11 installed at the same time? The
two packages are conflicting, because qtopia has its own GSM stack. So
if this is the case, deinstall either one of them.

HTH,
Thomas


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Re: [Info] time and date settings tool

2008-09-09 Thread Yorick Moko
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Pradeep Gottumukkala
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

   I felt proud to be part of openmoko development. I have developed a
 system date and time settings application(time-man) in python and I have
 tested it on Neo1973(OM2007.2).

Hope you guys would like to use it and test it and I expect your
 valuable feedback to make it more useful.

   Find this here:

   http://free-opensource.qvantel.net/mediawiki//index.php/Time-tool

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nice work
will test it later on


but it is getting increasingly diffucult to find all the good openmoko programs
everybody is putting his project in a different location online and
there isn't a list to keep track of it all

Maybe we should at least put up a wiki page where everybody can add
links for programs that are not on projects.openmoko.org?

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Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:36:55 +0200, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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 Hello
 
 I want to share something that I found in a shop:
 

http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html
 
 With it I could use the shipped cable (Usb to Micro Usb) to attach a
 pendrive to my FR and to get my FR running.
 
 It cost around 1.50 euro, and it seem to be cheap to me. The good think
 is that it permit to use the provided cable and to don't risk to brak
 the micro usb part inside the FR.
 
 What do you think about it?



Should work just fine.  I picked up a few of
http://www.cross-mark.com/female-female-coupler-adapter-p-922.html (and
http://www.cross-mark.com/pins-cable-players-p-734.html) and they work
fine.  Lets me couple the provided cable (and the replacements noted in
parens) to the standard USB cable provided with most peripherals.

j


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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
David Samblas wrote:
 Hi there,
 you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel  
 image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps 
 already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.


Thank you so much! I've loaded this and was greeted with a nice full 
screen of applications. I will now explore!

Will you make a wiki page or shall I? I think the distributions page 
lists a number of unnofficial images such as scardycat, etc.

Michael

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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile
 everything?

that's what crosscompiling is for. nobody is going to use portage to
compile from source on the phone itself. how you came to that
conclusion is beyond me.

best regards ...
clemens

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Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Michele Renda
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I was thinking that a way to reduce the quantity of cable a person has
to have with his will be to have:

1 x Usb - MicroUsb camle

1 x USB A Female - Female Adaptor (see A)

1 x Recharger without cable (see B)

A)
http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html
or
http://www.cross-mark.com/female-female-coupler-adapter-p-922.html

B)
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10521.htm
(I know it don't provide 1 A, but it is only to have an idea)

In this mode will be easier to bring with us a regarger using always the
same cables.

Michele Renda
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Re: Stylus Ink Replacement Cartridge?

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:13:15 -0400, Charles Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Does anyone know how to replace the ink cartridge in the stylus that
comes
 with the Freerunner? It seems like I can just pull it out, but I don't
 want
 to break it. Also, does anyone have a Staples of OfficeMax item number
for
 a
 good replacement cartridge? Thanks.
 
 -Charles

I picked up a refill at Staples for $1.99, a fine-point black Fisher
Universal pressurized refill for 'multi-action pens', Staples item code
521860, works great.  Fisher's model is #SU4F, UPC 7-47609-17141-9.  It was
kinda depressing how quickly the included ink runs out, I probably wrote a
total of 1/2 page with it before needing this refill.

They had another that should fit, medium point Staedtler 'multi-action' pen
refills, staples item code 396404, but that one is a three-pack of
black+blue+red for $3.29.  The three-pack didn't seem like a great idea for
the stylus (I'm sure it's intended for the 'select-a-color' style pens) - I
can't imagine stopping to swap them out when I wanted red instead of black,
or whatever, and I wouldn't want my stylus pen to always write red.  (or
blue for that matter - finepoint black is IT for me ;)

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OPKG building and repository

2008-09-09 Thread Jean-Eric Cuendet
Hi,
I have a dedicated server (P4 3.2 GHz) connected directly to Internet.
This is a proposition for those that would like a system to automatically
build IPKG for Openmoko.
I can give them access to it (or put their scripts) to auto build packages
for Openmoko.

I need help:
1) To create scripts that buld packages (First candidates: duke,
numptyphysics, inotify-utils, maps for Navit or others, ...)
2) To create a repository for thise packages (or use Multiverse?)

Thanks to voice if you are interested.
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Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk


On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:23:43 +0200, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner
 can
 power a hub and two adapters)
 
 I've thought about different idea - can FreeRunner be powered from USB
 power
 adaper connected to the USB hub? Like this:
 
 
   Power plug
   |
   |
USB Hub---Ethernet, thumb drive, other devices
   |
   |
  FreeRunner
 
 That would probably solved power requirements... But it's still 220V (or
 110V)
 attached indirectly to the USB network, is it safe ('cause I have no
 idea...)?
 For example, can I connect another computer through USB or Ethernet card
 with
 that configuration?
 
 harnir

[NOTE: It's NOT - or better not be - 220V or 110V direct to the hub, it's
likely to be 5Vdc]

You should be able to do this with the Freerunner, but you have to set the
mode in sysfs correctly, AND you should have 15k resistors between the D+
and D- data lines and ground. (see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#USB_Host_.2F_Device)  I'd ordered
a combo USB hub plus card reader that I wanted to try to utilize this way,
but when it arrived the hub was intermittent and the card reader was dead,
so I've not been able to try yet. (awaiting RMA)  I've got a 5V 2A cord
from my lost Zaurus that I was going to power it all with, figured that'd
be adequate to charge the freerunner at 1000mA while powering the hub/card
reader and whatever I've plugged into it.  Just needs a bit of rewiring
inside the hub.

As far as connecting a desktop PC and the Freerunner to the hub at the same
time, I'm not sure WHAT would happen if the Freerunner were in Host mode -
you'd get contention as to which was master of the bus, probably neither
would be able to work in that configuration. (I'm not even sure if the
design of a USB hub would allow it - I think it treats the 'peripheral'
connections differently than the 'host' connection, even apart from
expecting power to be present on the host port)

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Re: Get spare parts in NYC (batteries)

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:49:50 -0400, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you considered a spares pack?
 http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/spares-pack
 
 On Tuesday 09 September 2008 04:12:09 Stefan Fröbe wrote:
 Yes, I know as I also own quite a few BC-5s and remakes ;-)
 But I'm looking specifically for the original ones to have the coulomb
 counter and a working charge meter...
 

Personally, I don't want to spend $50 when all I really want is one spare
Freerunner battery.  Don't want/need the headset or pouch, would use the
extra batt if I had it but don't need it so would rather save the $$. 
(I've got two BL-5Cs and a BL-6C from my nokia 6600, so in a pinch I can
use one of them - I make sure one is always charged and tucked in the
armrest in my car - but as with Stefan I'd like to be able to see at least
an estimate of remaining charge)

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Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Joel Newkirk wrote:
 
 On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:23:43 +0200, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner
 can
 power a hub and two adapters)



I've tried to answer many of these questions here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host

If you feel this information is unclear, lacking, or wrong, please 
correct or please let me know.

In particular, I'd love people to add any specific setups they have that 
are working.

Michael

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Re: QTopia 4.3.3 doesn't suspend at first

2008-09-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas Bertani wrote:
 
 
 2008/9/9 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi,
 I installed the last image from Lorn of QTopia 4.3.3
 I have a problem: when I start it, it seems like if QTopia thinks
 the FR is powered by USB, so it doesn't go to sleep after 30 seconds.
 If I plug it to USB, it then detects the cable (the screen
 brightness is higher).
 If I unplug it, it detects now that it's unplugged (the screen
 brightness is lower). And after that, it suspends after 30 seconds.
 
 So I think that at first boot, QTopia thinks it's connected to USB
 while it is not. And all becomes well after plug/unplug from USB.
 Where is the status of the plug/unplug stored?
 Have someone an idea where to look to debug?
 This is easily reproducible on my FR.
 Lorn?
 
 Thanks.
 -jec
 
 
 
 This appends also for me... same thing
 

fyi, this has been fixed in 4.4


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Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:35:44 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I've tried to answer many of these questions here:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host
 
 If you feel this information is unclear, lacking, or wrong, please
 correct or please let me know.
 
 In particular, I'd love people to add any specific setups they have that
 are working.
 
 Michael

Thank you - exactly the information needed.  The 47kohm resistor (between
ID and GND) is needed to signal 1000mA charging permitted (that's what I
was thinking of when I wrote about the 15k pair in my previous post), per
both http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host and
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables, but unless I'm
misreading they seem to contradict one another regarding the 15k pulldowns
on D+ and D-.  What is the correct info regarding those?

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Re: Trolltech Qtopia (not X11) on 2008.8 base rootfs

2008-09-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Cédric Berger wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 00:29, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.sh start
 or ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe.sh /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe.sh
 to make it start up automatically on boot. (dont forget to remove the link 
 in /etc/rc5.d to xserver-nodm

 
 Thanks.
 
 But I still can't get it start : it goes to the empty screen with
 blinking cursor at top, and stays stucked here.
 Where should I look for a log of what is happening ?

You can run qtopia form the console (ssh).
just do this:

source /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.env
qpe


and this will most likely tell you whats up.

Btw, is this on gta01?


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Re: gsm log on my gta02 makes mention of gta01

2008-09-09 Thread Stephen Shelton
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:42:13 +0200
Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:49:22AM -0500, Stephen Shelton wrote:
  I installed 2008.8 last night and GSM worked well immediately on boot. I 
  did a
  number of things, particularly opkg update / opkg upgrade (although the 
  latter
  output nothing).
  
  After rebooting, gsm ceased to work. I pull up it's log and keep seeing 
  output
  attributed to a machine_gta01.c. Perhaps said code should work wight gta02, 
  but
  regardless the gsm is not working. Here is my log file about 8 minutes into
  restarting gsm:
  
  Tue Sep  9 09:30:25 2008 6 log.c:106:gsmdlog_init() logfile successfully 
  opened
  [...]
  ...and this pattern continues...
  
  Any hints would be appreciated.
 
 Do you have gsmd and qtopia-phone-x11 installed at the same time? The
 two packages are conflicting, because qtopia has its own GSM stack. So
 if this is the case, deinstall either one of them.
 
 HTH,
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This must be it. Which one is the default? I'm not sure if I installed gsmd 
implicitly, or if qtopia-phone-x11 was pulled in as a dependency.

If the latter is true, this should be noted in the installer...

Thanks

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel Hedblom
Thanks!

Really sweet image you have there.

//danielh

2008/9/9 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi there,
 you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel
 image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps
 already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.

 here you have more detailed information

 http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt

 I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server
 seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way

 Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome

 Regards and a hug

 David Samblas

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FR with different WLAN modes

2008-09-09 Thread Katrin Tomanek

Hi, 
I had been posting before on the wifi issue.
After I had problems with connecting to my WPA-secured WLAN, I managed
easily (with the description as can be found in the wiki) to connect to a
WPA2-secured WLAN.

Then, I set my AP to WEP and authentication with wpa_supplicant worked --
once! When I ran the wpa_supplicant again I had the same problems as with
WPA -- I got a authentication timed out error message (after rebooting:
worked once, then not).

So, to summarize, whereas authentication with wpa_supplicant and WPA2 seems
to work fairly well, there seem to be problems with WPA and WEP. Did anybody
observe similar behavior? Does anybody have an explanation?

I'd really love to see my FR being able to connect to wifi easily...

Katrin
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