Re: 2008.9 GPS
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 14:19:45 Chia-I Wu wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:25:39PM +0200, Alex Oberhauser wrote: What program do you use? If I have tried only with the location program I haven't received a fix. With the testprogram openmoko-gps-ui (I'm not sure with the name) and tangogps it works. When there is clear sky and a free sight after 1:30 or 2 minutes. When you start then location after you have received a fix with one of the two programs mentionend it finds your location. The Searching for your location message and Unable to locate a fix alert is merely informative. After they disappear, Locations (actually, diversity-daemon) continues listening to /dev/ttySAC1 silently and waiting for a fix. Could you help verify it? If it causes confusions, it should be changed. I agree, the message is confusing and gives the wrong impression. Something like 'Your position is not available at this time' would be more appropriate or maybe some kind of progress/status indicator to denote that it is attempting to retrieve information. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: df-util required minimum kernel version
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 14:03:27 Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 23, 2008 a las 11:12:05AM +1000, Sarton O'Brien escribió: On Monday 22 September 2008 17:14:45 Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm not sure, is it a 32bit binary? My system is: yes, the above 'albatros' runs a normal SLES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /etc/SuSE-release SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (i586) VERSION = 9 I saw you were running i386, I actually meant the dfu-util binary but from you have presented it appears the kernel version is indeed a problem. I hadn't realised. anyway; I'll put a Knoppix 5.1.1 on an USB key to use this as alternative boot in my laptop (which runs FreeBSD, would be nice to port later dfu-util to FreeBSD :-)) I agree ... well ... let's just say *BSD :) ... I'm on the NetBSD side of the fence. Virtualbox should run on FreeBSD and I've heard their Xen implementation has matured quite a bit, using hvm should allow this to function if your laptop supports it. Xen's acpi functionality tends to be lacking though. Anyway, just a thought :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nokia BL-5C replacement battery
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 15:34:51 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:04:02 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you bought a Nokia BL-5C for a spare battery, you might want to check this site: http://batteryreplacement.nokia.com/batteryreplacement/en/ cheers jOERG Wow. After reading this I went to check the BL-5c from my old Nokia 6600, and couldn't find it. I also have a BL-6c and a new BL-5c clone I ordered online a couple months ago. That last one was on the desktop charger, and was almost twice as thick in the middle as it should be... extremely pillow-shaped. Needless to say I relocated it to the middle of the concrete garage floor away from anything flammable. (6-ft radius :) Thanks for the heads up. Apparently whoever made this clone battery, it has the same or a similar flaw to the genuine Nokia ones made by Matsushita in 2006. (always assuming it's not just someone selling off the portion of the 46 million made which never reached consumers, which actually seems pretty believable) But the timing is just remarkable. Hehe, cool. Have you got some protective clothing and a 6.5 foot stick to poke it with? :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO toolchain?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: You may use the Makefile at http://shr.bearstech.com/ , this will setup the entire openembedded environment to build toolchain and fso images/applications. Note that the canonical place for the FSO Makefile is now at downloads.freesmartphone.org - shr.bearstech.com is for SHR work only. (The FSO and SHR Makefiles are currently identical, but may not remain so in the future, so please use the correct one). Thanks Rod, I updated the wiki. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 GPS
On 23/09/2008 02:21, Sarton O'Brien wrote: The accuracy of the GPS seems to be ok. Tangogps reports the speed of my car almost to the kilometer :) ... which I didn't expect. FYI, the accuracy of GPS velocity should be around 5 cm per second for the ublox GPS receiver, that is around 0.2 km per hour... So almost one km/h is pretty bad... not necessarily TangoGPS fault. Maybe something is badly configured in the GPS ship. Or maybe there is a sensible delay between when the velocity is calculated and when it is displayed by TangoGPS... Latency handling is very important in real-time navigation software. Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner for sale
Hi, Still looking to sell my Freerunner, as I do not have time to develop for it. It's in great condition, North American 850Hz version. Willing to negotiate price. I'm in Canada and am willing to ship. There's more details here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Classifieds Cheers! Justin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 GPS
Please take this thread back to this problem... I am experiencing the same thing: cannot get a fix never. Using ASU. Tried everything to get it back working (except any hw fixes, as I now it worked). There was nothing wrong with my GPS before updating from 2007, worked quite well. I thought reason was as I accidentaly dropped my FR on the floor. But I see I am not alone with this problem. But now: where to look for problem? In agps-ui log I can see some data comming from GPS modul, but they are still the same, and no fix even after 2 hours... On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Stephen Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Michael Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:33 -0400, Matthew Lane wrote: I can't get my GPS to get a fix, even outside. I'm using the latest 2008.9 distro from the wiki (as of 9/18/08). My Locations app shows a map, attempts to get a fix, and always tells me I can't get a fix in sunny weather! Is anyone else having this issue, or does anyone know of a solution? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I have some experience with 2008.8/9. Since I upgrades to 2008.9 I had more difficulties but since I found out that settings doesnt show current status of gps-power example if wake up from standby (its always off no matter what shown). I get a fix after approx. 2min when enter outside best not to close to house wall. I also have external antenna which is more reliable and can see and track more sattelites. Once I thought that gpsd was not runnning when I had problems but since I keep focus on it it always run (I expect the problem was power that was off). The most frequent problem I have now is that tangogps crash with segment fault after run for a while. Didn't have time to investigate that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'm glad it's not just me. I'm beginning to think my phone is defective, I cannot get a fix. In the agps-ui, I'm not even seeing a signal from any of the satellites. Running 2008.9 with the latest kernel. I've even tried using the agps program with assist online. That makes agps-ui show a list of satellites, and have the current GPS time, but no signal. I was thinking of trying the antenna repair SOP. Ironicly, one of the biggest reasons I wanted the Freerunner, besides openness, was to create a GRPS/GPS app. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3
perhaps it is possible to include some more gps infos, like satellites, time, etc ... also warm/cold start gps and signalstrength like in the gpsui would be great. thx very much for your effort, its great on debian :) br ubbas -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/new-version-of-the-openmoko-panel-plugin-0.3-tp1099277p732.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate for OpenMoko
2008/9/22 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As said before, since I'm not entirely happy with the previous version of Rotate for OpenMoko, also using it as a way to learn how to write programs for it, I'm writing a new version of Rotate for OpenMoko. I'm now announcing the first results: release 0.1.0 is out (signature)! The tar.gz file contains both source and a binary suited to run on Om200x.y (at least 2008.9 should work). Be careful, it bytes.. :) could someone provide some hints for how to set this to autostart, either system-wide or for a specific user? for a specific user, would i place a link to it in ~/.xinitrc? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO toolchain?
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:54 PM, rhn rhn at o2.pl wrote: Hello This question may be terribly out of place, but I haven't found a definite answer on the Openmoko or freesmartphone wiki. I'd like to be able to develop on my main box some programs to use with FSO on the phone (and package them), but I have found only the Openmoko toolchain via the wiki. It seems to be 2007.4 based. There was nothing relevant on freesmartphone.org, so I think there is a way to use the aforementioned toolchain to make software compliant to FSO. Currently, my guess is that I need to set up the repositories list in the toolchain to point the FSO repos. Would this suffice? You may use the Makefile at http://shr.bearstech.com/ , this will setup the entire openembedded environment to build toolchain and fso images/applications. This is the best solution if your application has dependencies on the fso tree. You should write a bitbake recipie for your application, or use some other tricks to use the toolchain. Nicola Thanks, I will try it soon. I'm just going to port some apps to FSO for now, so I don't expect any dependencies on the FSO tree that I would know about. What I was afraid of was that maybe the OM toolchain used with FSO would give me headache because of errors that have origins unknown to me. Regards rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner a month after
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Really depends on what your motivations and goals are, I suspect. Personally, I develop the applications that I want on the phone using TclFltk, a scripting based language that uses the FLTK tool kit. Since this cross platform environment works on Windows, Linux, etc. It does not get bogged down on all this platform dependant stuff. I suspect that there must be other things that are pretty isolated from the stack, like python-gtk or java that you can use. On the other hand, if you are into the internals of the phone, your project will probably have a lot of trouble because of the lack of documentation and access. My projects are strictly user space applications, and so far, things are relatively speaking just fine. Qt library works on Windows, Linux, Mac, and Windows ME too. With a single Api you can run your applications on qtopia/2008.8/fso for example. The library usually is used with C++, and i think this is faster then python or java or other interpreted languages, and let's remember that we are on a system with a slow cpu. Howewer this could be not a big issue, as a mixed system where core feature are developed with C/C++ and lighter interfaces with interpreted languages is acceptable. Qt has an excellent documentation, i used it for years, qtopia supports gta*, in the oetree are there qt recipies, om ported qtopia phone to x11, so actually you write just one and run it on every freerunner or destkop or pda with every distro on it. Finally i must use qt because i developed a client for www.openstreetmap.orgwith editor capabilities using qt library, it's not yet released to the public for lack of time, but when i got my freerunner i decided to port,complete and release it. First i tryied to download qtopia sdk virtual machine serveral time with a slow line, but the file was trunked at 450Mb i think for an hardware problem of the server. After i decided to download qtopia-snapshots sources and compile SDK directly on my host for arm and x86, in a couple of day i was quite confident in new tools, new .pro specification, objects and api not available on qtopia (QFileDialog, QInputDialog...) and so on, patched a bit and compiled my application for qtopia. I found (it may be) a bug in qtopia in floating point, recompiled all the sdk with double precision, find that it now works and reported a bug to trolltech. I replaced /opt/* stuff with my own qtopia image and finally my applications appeared on the freerunner. The second step should be now to run my application on 2008.x and later FSO. In the past I did a try to OE, trying to port my application for ipaq2200, and i had to spent a lot of time, due to lack of documentation, to find some bitbake inc files to patch and to use in order to create a bb recipie for my application. So i thinked i should find them in om tree, but it seems there is some related to qtopia-core and not qtopia phone, howewer official recipie does not fill staging area with libraries and include, so i'm in doubt how i have to proceed, and all this is becoming a nightmare! I have not to go deeply in the internals, but just have a little control of Power Managment, or just interact with some gui staff, for example: QtopiaApplication::setPowerConstraint(QtopiaApplication::DisableLightOff); This line avoids freerunner goes to suspend when my application is running. When it quits normal power management settings are used. Another example is: QSoftMenuBar::addMenuTo(...) this add a menu under the softkeys of qtopia. These calls is only available under qtopia and not generic qt. I have to use qtopia-phone api to access contacts, sim, sms and so on, and this is a different and incompatible with the fso framework. So now, we have 2008.x with qtopia, but in the future it will be based on FSO. I think it would be quite nice to know if: * qtopia phone x11 will be patched to use FSO? * om will replace qtopia with Zenith or other gui? * om guys will patch qtopia-phone-x11 recipie and classes to build application? * what are the relations between fso/oe/om stuff? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
this one also intresting ... i will have it soon and report. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3942 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Extended-battery-pack-tp737284p891.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.8] [FDOM]
Hi all, i cannot opkg upgrade because of this gpg faulure... pleae, do you have any sort of solution? thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python- pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb- friendly way to change lcd-brightness what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this list .. :) I have sent by accident a mail to Sebastian Ohl instead of here about a review of this plugin. I'll try to say all I have sayed. This plugin is great, I use it with xfce4-panel and matchbox (not XFCE) in user mode. bugs: - the battery part seems to depend of a battery.py, which is not in the debian package, so I don't now where it came from. - The debian package do not have enough dependencies, at least python-gtk is needed. - the usb applet suppose that pushing the button always succeed, which is not the case. For example, in user mode, the plugin is not allowed to charge module or change the usb mode. - the panel plugin became unusable after a fso-frameworkd restart. usability problems: - some part of the plugin is not usable in user mode, for example the new usb applet. - the plugin is composed of too much icons. - toggling mode of wifi, gsm and gps is too easy and can be done by accident. Proposed features: - cobine the status icons into an unique icon (wifi, gps, bt, gsm on/off, maybe usb). When pushing this icon, a window appear that propose to change the different options (module on/off, usb mode, usb gadget). - use a real bar for batterie status instead of lots of icons. - use a bar for gsm instead of a 4 circle bar. - print GSM network in the GSM icon instead of the red bars (maybe not a good idea since the name can be long). - provide a matchbox-keyboard-toggle compatible with the applet, or give an option to use the AUX button to toggle the keyboard directly into the panel plugin. -- Guillaume Pinot http://www.irccyn.ec-nantes.fr/~pinot/ ``Computers are good at following instructions, but not at reading your mind.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, the TeXbook () ASCII ribbon campaign -- Against HTML e-mail /\ http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wlan Issues after inactivity
Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently some people need to do iwconfig eth0 power off to even get an association. This command toggle off power management. From my experience, this is not a FR bug, but an AP bug : some AP do not work good with power managed client. On my lab, at the university and in my LUG, the wifi work without swiching off the power management. But at home, I need to toggling off power management. With power management, it is difficult to have an IP by DHCP, and pinging the router make between 70-80% of lost packets. My Nintendo DS do not work with this router too. I experiment wifi problem when loosing link, that can only be fixed by a reboot. It is not great when roaming... (tested on Debian with FSOm2 and m3 kernels) -- Guillaume Pinot http://www.irccyn.ec-nantes.fr/~pinot/ ``Computers are good at following instructions, but not at reading your mind.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, the TeXbook () ASCII ribbon campaign -- Against HTML e-mail /\ http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.9] keyboard PIN
Hello, I've update right now to Om2008.9 and was deeply impressed about how the update went (fine) and that the user interface has completely changed now :-) I have problems (maybe because of lack of understanding) how to enter the numbers for the PIN; from the Wiki I learned that I have to move the finger over the keyboard to bring up the numbers, ok; but when I mark now the digits they don't move up to the field where the PIN must be entered; how is this exactly to handle? and how I can remove wrong typed digits exactly? I played around and was lucky to enter finally the correct PIN, but without knowing in detail how to do this :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.9] Suspending questions
Hi all I've got the following problem: suspending the FR works (by pressing on/off and automatically) but every time I wake it up (by pressing on/off) the device wakes up for about 2s and returns straight back to its suspended state - until I press on/off again. The second time, resuming works ok. Any hints on how to fix this? Best regards, Chris -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel Build without OE tools
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Thanx for the tips andy. | I am compiling the kernel with toolchain rather than OE and when I | start the make process my custom .config is over written and thus my | appended CONFIG_X are not built into the kernel. I checked during | the make process and my CONFIG_X were missing from .config! | | How can this behavior be controlled? This is what happens if your config option are invalid, for example they are dependent on other CONFIG_ options that are not selected. make oldconfig will clean them out. So there is a bigger issue with what you are trying to select I guess. My module needed SHA1=y and it was SHA1=m so the dependency wasn't being met properly :) - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYuK8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpHvACgkFU6q2+pDQl2P+f+zj+Q7vPP Ai0An2/FYGAb7G4/jGCtC2/zzHVpgVDp =/dUn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate for OpenMoko
If you install it via the *.ipk package on the wiki page, you'll get an init script to launch the daemon. Then copy the latest binary version over the one installed by the package (it is much older). From there, all you have to do is to configure the daemon to launch at the chosen runlevel (can't remember the specific commands, sorry!). Citando Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: could someone provide some hints for how to set this to autostart, either system-wide or for a specific user? for a specific user, would i place a link to it in ~/.xinitrc? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel Build without OE tools
Another similar question，compile kernel with OE I want to try the recent kernel-2.6 (andy's branch), and apply my own patches so write a recipe, and put it on my own overlay repository, build with OE all I want to to test is a kernel module, while using OE, seems that It will build all kernel tree, every time it will untar, compile and this is really time-consuming, is it possible to compile the only module I want. Or should I use the old fashioned way, Guess OE is more suitable for distro release On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Thanx for the tips andy. | I am compiling the kernel with toolchain rather than OE and when I | start the make process my custom .config is over written and thus my | appended CONFIG_X are not built into the kernel. I checked during | the make process and my CONFIG_X were missing from .config! | | How can this behavior be controlled? This is what happens if your config option are invalid, for example they are dependent on other CONFIG_ options that are not selected. make oldconfig will clean them out. So there is a bigger issue with what you are trying to select I guess. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYuK8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpHvACgkFU6q2+pDQl2P+f+zj+Q7vPP Ai0An2/FYGAb7G4/jGCtC2/zzHVpgVDp =/dUn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel Build without OE tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Another similar question，compile kernel with OE | | I want to try the recent kernel-2.6 (andy's branch), and apply my own | patches | so write a recipe, and put it on my own overlay repository, build with OE | | all I want to to test is a kernel module, while using OE, seems that It | will build all | kernel tree, every time it will untar, compile and this is really | time-consuming, | is it possible to compile the only module I want. | | Or should I use the old fashioned way, | | Guess OE is more suitable for distro release This is normal for packaging, it will cook the whole thing that way. It's generally what you want for packages and it proves that the set of sources is complete as well. If it doesn't make sense to add your module to the dist config (what's the module?) you best bet is build from git, that way most of the .o files won't need recooking between git pulls and it will be way faster for you. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYwFUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqs/wCdEWN0rfx8XDUxfj/k09ymcIc5 fHkAnjrKPqemb94kBAn4zhHU6p5FAahh =Mwoq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] [FDOM]
El Tuesday, 23 de September de 2008 11:31:49 Davide Scaini va escriure: Hi all, i cannot opkg upgrade because of this gpg faulure... pleae, do you have any sort of solution? What gpg failure? If you reffer to the Signature check failed is just a warning and it's tourned off with the option -V 0 thank d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Suspending questions
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: I've got the following problem: suspending the FR works (by pressing on/off and automatically) but every time I wake it up (by pressing on/off) the device wakes up for about 2s and returns straight back to its suspended state - until I press on/off again. The second time, resuming works ok. Any hints on how to fix this? i find this also, in 2008.08 updated to P1-Snapshot-20080919-r1. i'd be happy to try and snip some logs, but i'm not clear about where information about snoozing and waking decision might be logged. three more small data: it doesn't happen every time i wake the device up, for me; but it does happen about two out of three wakeups. i've also had it happen a second time, although it's much rarer. and i've never even had it happen a first time when i'm on USB. that made me wonder if it might be power-manaagement related? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to change the accelerometer sampling rate
Hello!!, Im a beginner and I need to change the sampling rate of the accelerometers. Is there any config file to change that? and another question: Where I can see the real rate of the accelerometer? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-to-change-the-accelerometer-sampling-rate-tp1112004p1112004.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] [FDOM]
ok, updating works... but installing (with assassin) it says Failed. Please try again.The error message is 'gpg-failure' so i can't upgrade or install anything! :-( d On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Jose Luis Perez Diez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Tuesday, 23 de September de 2008 11:31:49 Davide Scaini va escriure: Hi all, i cannot opkg upgrade because of this gpg faulure... pleae, do you have any sort of solution? What gpg failure? If you reffer to the Signature check failed is just a warning and it's tourned off with the option -V 0 thank d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] Copying the iPhone, or what not to do in phone UI design
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Tuesday 16 September 2008 17:33:23 schrieb Nishit Dave: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone Fun, but comparing apples and oranges. The iPhone UI design is stellar. Yes, it has warts, but less than anything else on the market. I saw the Samsung Instinct touchscreen phone in the US. Like other phones here, it has been crippled, but I was dismayed to see the similarities between its UI and the one in OM 2008.8 / Qtopia. Noteworthy aspects: It has a usable Shelf, call management features work instantaneously, it has useful buttons like volume control, call pickup/dialer, etc., and has a GPS navigation system with voice prompts that works. Ah, and a tactile response system - all keypresses - virtual and real - invoke a tiny vibration. Overall a pretty good phone, but yes, crippled. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] keyboard PIN
Hi Matthias, I think on the default keyboard, a swipe to the right will put the numbers on top and a swipe to the left will delete numbers. However, you may be more happy with a different keyboard - see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate I'd recommend the keyboard that comes with illume-config (Rasters keyboard, I think). There is a mod available somewhere on this list that will ease entering numbers without a stylus. HTH, Andreas Fischer Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I've update right now to Om2008.9 and was deeply impressed about how the update went (fine) and that the user interface has completely changed now :-) I have problems (maybe because of lack of understanding) how to enter the numbers for the PIN; from the Wiki I learned that I have to move the finger over the keyboard to bring up the numbers, ok; but when I mark now the digits they don't move up to the field where the PIN must be entered; how is this exactly to handle? and how I can remove wrong typed digits exactly? I played around and was lucky to enter finally the correct PIN, but without knowing in detail how to do this :-( Thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] keyboard PIN
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:49:08AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I've update right now to Om2008.9 and was deeply impressed about how the update went (fine) and that the user interface has completely changed now :-) I have problems (maybe because of lack of understanding) how to enter the numbers for the PIN; from the Wiki I learned that I have to move the finger over the keyboard to bring up the numbers, ok; but when I mark now the digits they don't move up to the field where the PIN must be entered; how is this exactly to handle? and how I can remove wrong typed digits exactly? If you have typed the number you can click on the numbers above the keyboard, then they will be confirmed and written into the PIN field. To delete a number (or a char) draw a line from right to left in the keyboard field. I prefer the illume keyboard with another theme, where I can choose numbers/default/terminal it works better for me. regards Alex I played around and was lucky to enter finally the correct PIN, but without knowing in detail how to do this :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to change the accelerometer sampling rate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello!!, | | Im a beginner and I need to change the sampling rate of the accelerometers. | Is there any config file to change that? | | and another question: | | Where I can see the real rate of the accelerometer? # cat /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate 100 # echo 400 /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate # cat /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate 400 spi0.1 is the other guy. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYxV0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpm7ACeIpEZysjt/WhIdcxZ7ho/Hlc+ jZ0Ani5GOWQongPY4BRwXsYHWESYmVmj =AiLk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel Build without OE tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Thanx for the tips andy. | I am compiling the kernel with toolchain rather than OE and when I | start the make process my custom .config is over written and thus my | appended CONFIG_X are not built into the kernel. I checked during | the make process and my CONFIG_X were missing from .config! | | How can this behavior be controlled? This is what happens if your config option are invalid, for example they are dependent on other CONFIG_ options that are not selected. make oldconfig will clean them out. So there is a bigger issue with what you are trying to select I guess. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYuK8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpHvACgkFU6q2+pDQl2P+f+zj+Q7vPP Ai0An2/FYGAb7G4/jGCtC2/zzHVpgVDp =/dUn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3
I really love this plugin for use with debian. :) But i have a few suggestions for future releases. The GSM icon didn't change at all when disabled. Only when the gsm provider is activated the gsm-strengh bar changes. When disabling gsm in the older version the icon got a striked through circle like the other icons but this didn't happen anymore. In the first version when clicking the battery icon a popup show the current state. This popup was removed because it didn't show any more information than the hint when floating over the battery icon. Now i would love to get the popup again but with more battery information. In /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/uevent all information could be found and i think the following would be nice to see (i added the unit in brackets): POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4158000 (µV) POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=16500 (µA) POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=1215585 (µAh) POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=291 (°C * 10) POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_EMPTY_NOW=275280 (s) POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_FULL_NOW=3932100 (s) POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=99 (%) It would also be nice if we could change the charging current within this popup to force it to 100mA/500mA/1000mA. This could be done with /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous And i really love to see the new feature of changing the lcd brightness, which would save quite some battery power. :) Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python- pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb- friendly way to change lcd-brightness what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this list .. :) ciao, morlac - meanwhile co-developer of openmoko-panel-plugin p.s. the usb-chooser will get it's functionality when 'rmmod g_file_storage' gets functional Am 21.09.2008 um 11:45 schrieb Fox Mulder: I think he doesn't say more about the openmoko-panel-plugin because the older versions are floating around this mailing list for quite some time. :) It is a small xfce plugin to show and change the status of wlan, gps, bluetooth, battery, gsm, usb and keyboard. It is like the indicator bar of OM2008.8 at the top. It is really a timesaver and now also shows the gsm state like strength and carrier which zhone doesn't anymore. Ciao, Rainer Olivier Berger wrote: Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, here is a new version of the panel plugin. Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on the right list, then ;) Regards. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to change the accelerometer sampling rate
what measure is 100 please?? thanks for your fast aswer Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello!!, | | Im a beginner and I need to change the sampling rate of the accelerometers. | Is there any config file to change that? | | and another question: | | Where I can see the real rate of the accelerometer? # cat /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate 100 # echo 400 /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate # cat /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate 400 spi0.1 is the other guy. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYxV0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpm7ACeIpEZysjt/WhIdcxZ7ho/Hlc+ jZ0Ani5GOWQongPY4BRwXsYHWESYmVmj =AiLk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-to-change-the-accelerometer-sampling-rate-tp1112004p1112055.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools
Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 13:53 +1000 schrieb Ian: ... I'm sure you've already done this, but just in case have you set your computer to act as a gateway to the FR? It needs packet forwarding enabled under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward as well as iptables set up correctly. Personally I use an iptables frontend called firehol to simplify this. My /etc/firehol/firehol.conf looks like (this is on my laptop, not the FR): ... I did sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 again and now it is working. But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I will find it? -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Measure of the file /dev/input/event3 (Accelerometer data)
Hello again, in /dev/input/event3 (or /dev/input/event2) you can see something like that: 00030e0 c157 48d7 82df 000c 00030f0 c157 48d7 a770 000c 0002 0012 0003100 c157 48d7 a7ea 000c 0002 0001 0012 the last two columns are the accelerometer values. my question is ¿what is the measure of this values? ¿how i can obtain the decimal value? thanks so much -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Measure-of-the-file--dev-input-event3-%28Accelerometer-data%29-tp1112096p1112096.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Suspending questions
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:04 +0200 Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got the following problem: suspending the FR works (by pressing on/off and automatically) but every time I wake it up (by pressing on/off) the device wakes up for about 2s and returns straight back to its suspended state - until I press on/off again. The second time, resuming works ok. Any hints on how to fix this? I have problems that sound a lot like this if I have automatic suspend enabled. With it turned off, the problems go away but obviously there's a danger of flattening the battery if (say) the Neo gets woken up by a missed call and you don't notice for a number of hours. I think it's related to the screen blanking (maybe it's not actually falling asleep, just blanking the screen) - but I haven't tested thoroughly yet. Tom -- Thomas White - Downing College - Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student), Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy University of Cambridge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ALSA] wiki RFC
Hi. To anyone who actually knows the dark magic of ALSA state files and the way they are actually being used in the Freerunner, please go read the wiki page and let me know if it has anything wrong, and if it should have anything else. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem Thank you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Measure of the file /dev/input/event3 (Accelerometer data)
I think the Accelerometer data retrieval page on the wiki should have all the information you are looking for: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval along with several projects using the accelerometers that would be good reference points on projects.openmoko.org. Search for accel. Also the Google Summer of Code gestures project: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures Good luck. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM, daniel103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello again, in /dev/input/event3 (or /dev/input/event2) you can see something like that: 00030e0 c157 48d7 82df 000c 00030f0 c157 48d7 a770 000c 0002 0012 0003100 c157 48d7 a7ea 000c 0002 0001 0012 the last two columns are the accelerometer values. my question is ¿what is the measure of this values? ¿how i can obtain the decimal value? thanks so much -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Measure-of-the-file--dev-input-event3-%28Accelerometer-data%29-tp1112096p1112096.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to change the accelerometer sampling rate
100 Hz! You'll get at most 100 values of X, Y, Z per second. Paul On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM, daniel103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what measure is 100 please?? thanks for your fast aswer Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello!!, | | Im a beginner and I need to change the sampling rate of the accelerometers. | Is there any config file to change that? | | and another question: | | Where I can see the real rate of the accelerometer? # cat /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate 100 # echo 400 /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate # cat /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi0.0/sample_rate 400 spi0.1 is the other guy. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjYxV0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpm7ACeIpEZysjt/WhIdcxZ7ho/Hlc+ jZ0Ani5GOWQongPY4BRwXsYHWESYmVmj =AiLk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-to-change-the-accelerometer-sampling-rate-tp1112004p1112055.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Suspending questions
Thomas White rašė: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:04 +0200 Christoph Siegenthaler[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got the following problem: suspending the FR works (by pressing on/off and automatically) but every time I wake it up (by pressing on/off) the device wakes up for about 2s and returns straight back to its suspended state - until I press on/off again. The second time, resuming works ok. Any hints on how to fix this? I have problems that sound a lot like this if I have automatic suspend enabled. With it turned off, the problems go away but obviously there's a danger of flattening the battery if (say) the Neo gets woken up by a missed call and you don't notice for a number of hours. Same here, but even with automatic blanking switched off. Had this problem ever since installed Om2008.8 on August 31st. Keep up the good work, fellows! -- sledge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Measure of the file /dev/input/event3 (Accelerometer data)
Direct source code for reading values: http://code.google.com/p/accelges/source/browse/trunk/accelneo/src/accelneo.c Paul On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Jacob Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Accelerometer data retrieval page on the wiki should have all the information you are looking for: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval along with several projects using the accelerometers that would be good reference points on projects.openmoko.org. Search for accel. Also the Google Summer of Code gestures project: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures Good luck. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM, daniel103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, in /dev/input/event3 (or /dev/input/event2) you can see something like that: 00030e0 c157 48d7 82df 000c 00030f0 c157 48d7 a770 000c 0002 0012 0003100 c157 48d7 a7ea 000c 0002 0001 0012 the last two columns are the accelerometer values. my question is ¿what is the measure of this values? ¿how i can obtain the decimal value? thanks so much -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Measure-of-the-file--dev-input-event3-%28Accelerometer-data%29-tp1112096p1112096.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Measure of the file /dev/input/event3 (Accelerometer data)
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:28:26 +0200 Jacob Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Accelerometer data retrieval page on the wiki should have all the information you are looking for: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval I didn't come across anything about units in my travels. To me, it looks like they're in cm/s/s, i.e. divide by 100 to get the familiar value of 9.8ish pointing downwards. Don't forget that (a) I may be wrong, and (b) The orientation of the accelerometers might need some calibration. Tom -- Thomas White - Downing College - Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student), Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy University of Cambridge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Measure of the file /dev/input/event3 (Accelerometer data)
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:34:26 +0100 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't come across anything about units in my travels. To me, it looks like they're in cm/s/s, i.e. divide by 100 to get the familiar value of 9.8ish pointing downwards. Ok, Paul's code says that the number is in units of 1/1000 of 'g' (g=9.8 m/s/s), which also makes sense to me. So, I'll defer to his expertise unless anyone says otherwise :) Tom -- Thomas White - Downing College - Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student), Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy University of Cambridge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.09.2008 um 11:33 schrieb TeXitoi: Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python- pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb- friendly way to change lcd-brightness what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this list .. :) I have sent by accident a mail to Sebastian Ohl instead of here about a review of this plugin. I'll try to say all I have sayed. This plugin is great, I use it with xfce4-panel and matchbox (not XFCE) in user mode. bugs: - the battery part seems to depend of a battery.py, which is not in the debian package, so I don't now where it came from. this was a quick and dirty hack to call battery.py from http:// hdr.meetr.de/neo/openmoko/battery/ from panel-plugin just 'install' the ipk you get there and it should work for now - on my todo-list is a panel-plugin internal rework of battery.py - The debian package do not have enough dependencies, at least python-gtk is needed. - the usb applet suppose that pushing the button always succeed, which is not the case. For example, in user mode, the plugin is not allowed to charge module or change the usb mode. the usb-part has no functionality at all for now in any mode as it is not yet possible to 'rmmod g_file_storage' i just build the gui-part to show what i have in mind .. and do the background-work when the module-handling works as intendet - the panel plugin became unusable after a fso-frameworkd restart. not testet what's happening when frameworkd restarts - i guess it has something to do with dbus-things i'm not firm yet usability problems: - some part of the plugin is not usable in user mode, for example the new usb applet. see above - the plugin is composed of too much icons. also on my todo-list is a config-pane to choose which icons you like to see and which not - toggling mode of wifi, gsm and gps is too easy and can be done by accident. this issue is addressed with the version i send to sebastian ohl - he seems to have no regular internet-connection Proposed features: - cobine the status icons into an unique icon (wifi, gps, bt, gsm on/off, maybe usb). When pushing this icon, a window appear that propose to change the different options (module on/off, usb mode, usb gadget). at least for me i like to just look at my freerunner and see what status the hardware and so is in as it could also be toggled by other programs so combining icons would not be done by me - use a real bar for batterie status instead of lots of icons. that's the way gtk.StatusIcon works .. - use a bar for gsm instead of a 4 circle bar. see above - as long as noone tells me how to do a bar in a gtk.StatusIcon there will be icons .. - print GSM network in the GSM icon instead of the red bars (maybe not a good idea since the name can be long). i also think this would be too long in most cases (ok - 'O2' might work but 'T-Mobile D' is way too long) - provide a matchbox-keyboard-toggle compatible with the applet, or give an option to use the AUX button to toggle the keyboard directly into the panel plugin. at the moment the panel-plugin doesn't handle AUX-button .. -- Guillaume Pinot http://www.irccyn.ec-nantes.fr/~pinot/ ``Computers are good at following instructions, but not at reading your mind.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, the TeXbook () ASCII ribbon campaign -- Against HTML e-mail /\ http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Against proprietary attachments ciao, morlac - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI2Ndnr81gVylJyzERAk2gAJwKBX4lrsbcp5ydS5qBysJ7xyxuSQCgrV/1 pehHI+1g6TRzQTHCK11dx58= =rPGq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools
2008/9/23 Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I will find it? ping is in inetutils-ping. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] Copying the iPhone, or what not to do in phone UI design
Nishit Dave wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Tuesday 16 September 2008 17:33:23 schrieb Nishit Dave: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone Fun, but comparing apples and oranges. The iPhone UI design is stellar. Yes, it has warts, but less than anything else on the market. I saw the Samsung Instinct touchscreen phone in the US. Like other phones here, it has been crippled, but I was dismayed to see the similarities between its UI and the one in OM 2008.8 / Qtopia. Indeed. I have been using the Neo Freerunner as my daily phone for a few weeks now. And I can say that the Iphone-esque graphical user interface is starting to annoy me. The front screen gives me very little information. Yes I can see what signal strength I have and what time it is. (and whether Bluetooth etc are turned on) But then I get a list of icons of which one is always selected, and scrolling through the list feels sluggish. Other than that. I don't get to see that I have messages that I have clicked away, nor that I have clicked away phonecalls. Nor any other statusses that might be helpful. The 'today' screen of the 2007.2 was a lot more informational. What I'd like to see is to have a screen that shows me the date and time (could be a clock with a similar look and feel as the one currently found under Settings), how many missed calls, how many unread messages (both text and email) and my next few appointments/tasks. And easy access to the dialer. And keep the signal strength and a smaller clock in a bar on top of the screen. Then if I want to start up applications, I slide that screen to the left to see a list of applications (that can be done in the icon style we have now in 2008.x) and then slide to the left again to see the rest of the applications if there are more than fits on the first screen. I realize that that is not exactly friendly for rotate, or something. Perhaps instead of really rotating that screen, it shows a slightly different view. with icon-buttons that show just numbers instead of descriptions, next to the clock, when the screen is rotated. I'm not a developer, so I have no idea how feasible this is with the Freerunner. But that would be my ideal. --- Marcel de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-OT--Copying-the-iPhone%2C-or-what-not-to-do-in-phone-UI-design-tp1092987p1112324.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Suspending questions
I think it's related to the screen blanking (maybe it's not actually falling asleep, just blanking the screen) - but I haven't tested thoroughly yet. If you have illume-config-illume installed, try setting a larger suspend time and see if after the screen blanks, you can touch it to light it again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] [FDOM]
El Tuesday, 23 de September de 2008 12:21:17 Davide Scaini va escriure: ok, updating works... but installing (with assassin) it says Failed. Please try again.The error message is 'gpg-failure' I've just installed om-maps-paris and updated assassin from assessin on the lastest FDOM image without problems so i can't upgrade or install anything! :-( Upgrading FDOM isn't recommended. the image was built installing some of ipk manually and any upgrade is could bug it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] [FDOM]
El mar, 23-09-2008 a las 15:02 +0200, Jose Luis Perez Diez escribió: El Tuesday, 23 de September de 2008 12:21:17 Davide Scaini va escriure: ok, updating works... but installing (with assassin) it says Failed. Please try again.The error message is 'gpg-failure' I've just installed om-maps-paris and updated assassin from assessin on the lastest FDOM image without problems so i can't upgrade or install anything! :-( Upgrading FDOM isn't recommended. the image was built installing some of ipk manually and any upgrade is could bug it. As Jose Luis sais is not recomended to do full upgrade, and less recommended until the last 2008.9 update, we are working i a 2008.9 updated version. I will announce on the list when aviable. and the changes will be published on the wiki Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] low audio for called party (i.e. low capture)
Hello, All the parties I'm calling complain about very low audio signal from my Openmoko; this was already before the today update to Om2008.9. I can all hear well, maybe to laud, but it is OK; I've played around with changing the settings with 'alsamixer' to higher the capture values, but when the call gets established the values are pulled down to some defaults; where could I change this? thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] low audio for called party (i.e. low capture)
Hi Matthias, You have to change the preconfigured values in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state - see the mail sent earlier today by vasco.nevoa ([ALSA] wiki RFC) Regards, Andreas Fischer Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, All the parties I'm calling complain about very low audio signal from my Openmoko; this was already before the today update to Om2008.9. I can all hear well, maybe to laud, but it is OK; I've played around with changing the settings with 'alsamixer' to higher the capture values, but when the call gets established the values are pulled down to some defaults; where could I change this? thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools
But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I will find it? if you use debian on your pc, use apt-file. else see http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents the bottommost form. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] low audio for called party (i.e. low capture)
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, All the parties I'm calling complain about very low audio signal from my Openmoko; this was already before the today update to Om2008.9. I can all hear well, maybe to laud, but it is OK; I've played around with changing the settings with 'alsamixer' to higher the capture values, but when the call gets established the values are pulled down to some defaults; where could I change this? thx matthias Have a look at this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neopwn
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didier Raboud wrote: Russell Hay wrote: I'm assuming they're not intending to release the full code? Certainly cant see any mentions of license or downloads on their site. Formally, they only have to release the source code to their buyers... ... and then that buyer can release it publicly for everyone else under the terms of the GPL. Who's going to volunteer to buy one? [In reality, I'm expecting they will make the source code available at the same time they start shipping their first units. A security testing system without source code available for security review would not fly with most people ...] So far they've either redirected or ignored my requests for their custom kernel changes. They also claim all of the source code for the security apps can be downloaded from their software page. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] low audio for called party (i.e. low capture)
You can use Angus's software to do that. Look for a link in the wiki page Andreas is talking about. Citando Andreas Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Matthias, You have to change the preconfigured values in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state - see the mail sent earlier today by vasco.nevoa ([ALSA] wiki RFC) Regards, Andreas Fischer Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, All the parties I'm calling complain about very low audio signal from my Openmoko; this was already before the today update to Om2008.9. I can all hear well, maybe to laud, but it is OK; I've played around with changing the settings with 'alsamixer' to higher the capture values, but when the call gets established the values are pulled down to some defaults; where could I change this? thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.09] Is there any feedreader available?
On my 2008.09 I've tried to install openmoko-feedreader2, but it isn't in repositories. I've tried pyFeedReader but I feel it less usable than openmoko-feedreader. So, what solution? Angstrom repos, if activated, break my 2008.09. -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.altervista.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 16, 2008 a las 05:22:14PM -0700, nicklogan escribió: Apparently it's been used successfully with a Freerunner and even has software written to boost the charge rate and create a desktop icon: http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/mintyboost/ Does somebody know how to force the Freerunner to charge with 500mA even if it can't negotiate this via USB with the 'charger'? My shell script consists of three lines (two of them are output for diagnostics) = cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/usb_curlim echo 500 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/usb_curlim = If you are plugged into a Minty boost or other non-intelligent charger (like my car adaptor charger) the output from the script should be = 100 500 = The wiki page that documents this and other black magic is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
I've put it into a package, so it is easy to install/remove. see http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/09/getting-duke-nukem-3d-on-your-neo.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duke-Nukem-3D-on-Openmoko-Neo-tp842627p1113016.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Here in spain is a press massive campaing about the new google phone based in android the HTC Dream with a financied price of 199 Eurs http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/dec/17/news.mobilephones that will be out by the end of the year. any news about the real openess of android? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09] Is there any feedreader available?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 05:48:18PM +0200, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: On my 2008.09 I've tried to install openmoko-feedreader2, but it isn't in repositories. I've tried pyFeedReader but I feel it less usable than openmoko-feedreader. So, what solution? Angstrom repos, if activated, break my 2008.09. Same problem here. Angstrom breaks the 2008.9 release. I would try to install it manually. Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB host successes
tis 2008-09-23 klockan 22:17 +1200 skrev Robin Paulson: i also got a usb kb, so no more onscreen kb for terminal work - thoroughly recommended Which distribution are you using? This have never worked for me in X (on FSO) and it's a real PITA ... / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, -stacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 16, 2008 a las 05:22:14PM -0700, nicklogan escribió: Apparently it's been used successfully with a Freerunner and even has software written to boost the charge rate and create a desktop icon: http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/mintyboost/http://www.millions.ca/%7Estacy/mintyboost/ Does somebody know how to force the Freerunner to charge with 500mA even if it can't negotiate this via USB with the 'charger'? My shell script consists of three lines (two of them are output for diagnostics) = cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/usb_curlim echo 500 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/usb_curlim = If you are plugged into a Minty boost or other non-intelligent charger (like my car adaptor charger) the output from the script should be = 100 500 = The wiki page that documents this and other black magic is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs Why not just add the 47k resistor to the minty boost and then the Freerunner will choose 1A fast charge ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Power_Design_Requirements Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: 2008.9 GPS
Chia-I Wu wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:25:39PM +0200, Alex Oberhauser wrote: What program do you use? If I have tried only with the location program I haven't received a fix. With the testprogram openmoko-gps-ui (I'm not sure with the name) and tangogps it works. When there is clear sky and a free sight after 1:30 or 2 minutes. When you start then location after you have received a fix with one of the two programs mentionend it finds your location. The Searching for your location message and Unable to locate a fix alert is merely informative. After they disappear, Locations (actually, diversity-daemon) continues listening to /dev/ttySAC1 silently and waiting for a fix. Could you help verify it? If it causes confusions, it should be changed. Now testing with the openmoko-agpsui program, I have a recently flashed 2008.9 image with the latest kernel rootfs, after 45m of uptime I have 2686 fails and 0 good fixes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On 2008.09.23.19.21, David Samblas wrote: | any news about the real openess of android? The news is: no news. Still just the SDK and kernel available from the website. No hints about when more will be released. Nor really detailed about how _much_ more will be released. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Application idea
Hey there, I just saw some video about Googles Android and it inspired me to something. How hard would it be to implement googles Streetview in such a way, that you use the accelerometer to look around rather than your finger? So if you want to see what's on the right sight, you turn right yourself with your Neo in your hand. Also, is there an open alternative to streetview? (Combined with Tangogps and OSM maybe?) Just an idea. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Angus Ainslie wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, -stacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 16, 2008 a las 05:22:14PM -0700, nicklogan escribió: Apparently it's been used successfully with a Freerunner and even has software written to boost the charge rate and create a desktop icon: http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/mintyboost/http://www.millions.ca/%7Est acy/mintyboost/ Does somebody know how to force the Freerunner to charge with 500mA even if it can't negotiate this via USB with the 'charger'? My shell script consists of three lines (two of them are output for diagnostics) = cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/usb_curlim echo 500 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/usb_curlim = If you are plugged into a Minty boost or other non-intelligent charger (like my car adaptor charger) the output from the script should be = 100 500 = The wiki page that documents this and other black magic is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs Why not just add the 47k resistor to the minty boost and then the Freerunner will choose 1A fast charge ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Power_Design_Re quirements IIRC it was suggested this mode should only be enabled for chargers that were capable of supplying the full 1A. The mintyboost can't do this - you'll be lucky even to reach 500mA. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
Angus Ainslie wrote: Why not just add the 47k resistor to the minty boost and then the Freerunner will choose 1A fast charge ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Power_Design_Requirements a couple reasons, the biggest one being that the minty boost can't supply 1A the max is 600mA; as far as I know, there is no magic resistor to identify a 500mA charger to the Freerunner, it depends on USB host telling it that it can provide 500mA. Second, the ID pin is in the USB micro connector, so you would either need to put a micro connector on your minty boost (with the correct resistor installed) or use a hacked cable. -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea
On 2008.09.23.20.05, Richy wrote: | How hard would it be to implement googles Streetview in such a way, | that you use the accelerometer to look around rather than your finger? | So if you want to see what's on the right sight, you turn right | yourself with your Neo in your hand. | Also, is there an open alternative to streetview? (Combined with | Tangogps and OSM maybe?) I think their thingie does use the accelerometers. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Angus Ainslie wrote: Why not just add the 47k resistor to the minty boost and then the Freerunner will choose 1A fast charge ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Power_Design_Re quirements IIRC it was suggested this mode should only be enabled for chargers that were capable of supplying the full 1A. The mintyboost can't do this - you'll be lucky even to reach 500mA. The Linear Technology step up voltage converter is supposed to be able to do 600mA, it is the AA cells that seem to have a problem with supplying 500mA. They get a little toasty :-). The one I built to use D cells doesn't seem to have any issues with supplying 500mA. -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
nice job to both of you ! 2008/9/23 Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've put it into a package, so it is easy to install/remove. see http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/09/getting-duke-nukem-3d-on-your-neo.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duke-Nukem-3D-on-Openmoko-Neo-tp842627p1113016.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lost keyboard - Neo Freerunner
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Richard Ross Jr. wrote: Have managed to erase or lose the keyboard. Is there a way to reset in order to restore? In short, yes. You'll need to provide a bit more information before anyone can tell you the right method for what you're running. so: Which distribution are you using? Which keyboard were you using? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, David Samblas wrote: any news about the real openess of android? from this month's linux format magazine, duscussing the software that the 'phone will come with: One ommission [sic], which has been removed for 'security reasons' is the GTalk application, which would have given users free VoIP facilities over a Wi-Fi connection (LXF111, p.7). i'd say that was looking pretty bleak on the device-openness front. yy openmoko. shame the article didn't mention them. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wlan Issues after inactivity
i want to ask if there are other users having the same issues? Yes, wireless is flakey. Generally if I lose signal, then I need to reboot to reassociate. I'm experiencing the same since I've upgraded to 2008.9. I had absolutely no issues unter 2008.8 (I've upgraded through flashing since I didn't know opkg upgrade would have done the same thing). Apparently some people need to do iwconfig eth0 power off to even get an association. I'll try this one :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On 2008.09.23.13.46, Brock wrote: | On 2008.09.23.19.21, David Samblas wrote: | | any news about the real openess of android? | | The news is: no news. Scratch that. They just released the Android 1.0 SDK release 1, and in the announcement they say: So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making the code available in the fourth quarter. Which sounds familiar... I think they've been targeting the fourth quarter for a while. The announcement is at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Can't type with matchbox keyboard
does any volunteer to get in touch with the matchbox-project and see if they can release a new version? Maybe this help: [2008-09-21] Accepted 0.1+svn20080916-1 in unstable (low) (Moray Allan) on the http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/matchbox-keyboard.html -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
2008/9/23 Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've put it into a package, so it is easy to install/remove. see http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/09/getting-duke-nukem-3d-on-your-neo.html Nice, but why not put it into the community repository, so it just shows up in the package manager without people having to know your own URL? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. He used his finger on the touchscreen to rotate the image. And I think it would be cool to implement something like this, using accelerometer instead of the thinger to rotate the image. Assume I don't have any programming skills. What is needed to get something like that to work? Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
Because I don't manage the community repo. But I figured it all out, so it can be put in the repository. And I would like to get it into the repository. But It isn't compiled/packaged like described on the wiki. I've just took the compiled files of Rafael and put them in the right directory (accordingly to the linux file system). Put an icon. And put that all in a ipkg package with the proper dependencies. So If the community repo has an policy as severe as debian (where all source files should be available), the package will not be allowed. So if anyone want to try to get it into the repo, go ahead. But I will not try, because somebody on the on the mailing list has already criticized my package. (Because it's not compiled with bitbake by me and I don't know how Rafael has compiled it) Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/9/23 Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've put it into a package, so it is easy to install/remove. see http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/09/getting-duke-nukem-3d-on-your-neo.html Nice, but why not put it into the community repository, so it just shows up in the package manager without people having to know your own URL? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duke-Nukem-3D-on-Openmoko-Neo-tp842627p1113579.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Can't type with matchbox keyboard
In the official debian repos (i only use the default) is the actual svn version since a few days. I updated a few days ago and the new version was installed without any of these troublesome bugs. ;) Ciao, Rainer Aapo Rantalainen wrote: does any volunteer to get in touch with the matchbox-project and see if they can release a new version? Maybe this help: [2008-09-21] Accepted 0.1+svn20080916-1 in unstable (low) (Moray Allan) on the http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/matchbox-keyboard.html -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neopwn
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didier Raboud wrote: Russell Hay wrote: I'm assuming they're not intending to release the full code? Certainly cant see any mentions of license or downloads on their site. Formally, they only have to release the source code to their buyers... ... and then that buyer can release it publicly for everyone else under the terms of the GPL. Who's going to volunteer to buy one? [In reality, I'm expecting they will make the source code available at the same time they start shipping their first units. A security testing system without source code available for security review would not fly with most people ...] So far they've either redirected or ignored my requests for their custom kernel changes. They also claim all of the source code for the security apps can be downloaded from their software page. Their software page provides links to the upstream homepages. This is not sufficient to comply with GPL requirements. Under GPLv2, and possibly GPL v3, you must distribute all source code yourself, whether or not it has been modified. You cannot rely solely upon upstream source. A quick look for references on the FSF website has not revealed the relevant info, but this issue bit MEPIS back in 2006 and had widespread media coverage: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4218186268.html -- Andrew ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea
On 2008.09.23.22.25, Richy wrote: | Maybe I wasn't clear enough. | | He used his finger on the touchscreen to rotate the image. | | And I think it would be cool to implement something like this, using | accelerometer instead of the thinger to rotate the image. In this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PRfVKzuUJ4 , the guy says he uses the internal compass to do what you describe. | Assume I don't have any programming skills. What is needed to get | something like that to work? I'll punt on this one :) (but look into translating accelerometer gestures into mouse commands...) --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
Hello I am realizing a setting manager for Freerunner. It is focused to run under Debian + XFCE. It use PyGtk libraries and Fso framework. Please tell to me what would you like to be present in this tool (and how to do it :) Here you can find some screenshots and the deb package to install it on your freerunner: http://rubino.dyndns.org/ Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neopwn
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Andrew Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] A quick look for references on the FSF website has not revealed the relevant info, but this issue bit MEPIS back in 2006 and had widespread media coverage: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4218186268.html An official reference for this interpretation: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#SourceAndBinaryOnDifferentSites -- Andrew Stephen http://www.evil.geek.nz/ It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious. - Oscar Wilde ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] getting zhone sid ringtones working
Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using debian and zhone. sid ringtones doesnt work, only the buzzer works. I installed sidplay2, and oss-compat, and sidplay2 works from the command line. zhone cant find it though. Any hints? -- use the gstream sid plugin Ok, I tried: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly apt-get install python-gst0.10 this was not sufficient. Any more hints? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://rubino.dyndns.org/ Can you put the debian source package online too? best regards, Timo Lindfors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
WOW very nice :D Do you can use a distro like damn small linux, installa a minimal xfce with this interface and put into the NAND instead Microsd? Michele Renda wrote: Hello I am realizing a setting manager for Freerunner. It is focused to run under Debian + XFCE. It use PyGtk libraries and Fso framework. Please tell to me what would you like to be present in this tool (and how to do it :) Here you can find some screenshots and the deb package to install it on your freerunner: http://rubino.dyndns.org/ Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--Sephora-0.1---Suggestions-needed-tp1113729p1113852.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian gps] How to check gps
Hello, tangogps and fso-gpsd were installed from http://ftp2.de.debian.org, but I get no fix. In the Trip tab tango shows allways an alternating GPS Time (Tue 1999-11-30 00:00:00 or Fri 1999-11-31 01:00:00) and Satelites: 11/0. The rest is zero. The zhone internal gps appl. shows at the start view at all items N/A, and at the satelite view are about 10 satelites shown. The FR ran the whole evening next to a window in a wooden house, but it got no fix. I couldn't remove the SD card of using Debian installed on it :-}. Is my FR one of these ones with the SD card problem? Or is it also fixed by Debian distro? How can I check my GPS? How can I bring it up running? Sorry for all these question, but I couldn't find any solution in the wikis. -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
Dear Community, As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which I can do what I do now. Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;) While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! WP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea
oh, I didn't see that video.. ok, so these guys had the same idea earlier.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lost keyboard - Neo Freerunner
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Richard Ross Jr. wrote: I am not sure about the distribution. I ordered the phone in July of 2008. The model number is GTA02 - W.E. phone (Freerunner) North American version. The keyboard was the original one that was unable to accept certain inputs such as /. That'll be 2007.2 with the phone style keypad then. Here are the instructions for restoring it, aimed at people who deliberately removed it to use one of the other input options. It should probably work for you too. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards_on_Om_2007.2#Switch_back_to_the_original_Openmoko_keypad On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Richard Ross Jr. wrote: Have managed to erase or lose the keyboard. Is there a way to reset in order to restore? In short, yes. You'll need to provide a bit more information before anyone can tell you the right method for what you're running. so: Which distribution are you using? Which keyboard were you using? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
On Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:16:26AM +0200, wp wrote: Dear Community, As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which I can do what I do now. Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;) While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png ive temporarily enabled javascript and cookies and cant get the images to display. even whe copying the img src= link to the location bar. maybe you want to shrink them down to about 15k each and attach? What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! WP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
There is a patch that should be in tomorrow's kernels that addresses this, at least it gets my Sandisk 8GB SDHC recognized, please let me know if it helped or not. Should it be included in this kernel? http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080923.uImage.bin I ask because I got the following: Unknown boot option `glamo_mci.sd_post_power_clock=10': ignoring when I tried playing with it. And my Sandisk 8GB SDHC is still not recognised. Jonathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Booting from SD, unable to open an initial console
2008/9/24 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Then I noticed that the rootfs.tar.gz doesn't actually have sbin/init in it. It has sbin/init.sysvinit. Should sbin/init be a symlink to that? Or is there another cause of this problem? Well, I created sbin/init as a symlink to init.sysvinit, and it made no difference. Boot failed with same messages as already posted. Any ideas much appreciated! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
It is good to see concepts how a effective (and nice) UI could look like. In my opinion, looking at the artconcept pitures without having seen the structure.png they seem to be quite unstructered ;) Still, it is good to have a starting point ... Fabian Dear Community, As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which I can do what I do now. Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;) While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! WP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] Booting from SD, unable to open an initial console
Hi there, trying to boot from FDOM on my SD card... So I downloaded the latest rootfs.tar.gz and uImage.bin from http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/, unpacked the rootfs.tar.gz into /media/mmcblk0p2, and copied the uImage.bin to /media/card. I was previously running Debian on the SD card, so I think my bootloader should already be correctly configured to boot this. But the boot comes to a halt with: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). Freeing init memory: 128K Warning: unable to open an initial console. Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Then I noticed that the rootfs.tar.gz doesn't actually have sbin/init in it. It has sbin/init.sysvinit. Should sbin/init be a symlink to that? Or is there another cause of this problem? And a related question: when the kernel panics, is there any way of powering off, other than removing the battery? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think it looks great. Perhaps the name of the quickstartapps could be added and another, more speaking symbol for the complete app-list could be used. And i wonder, where the active apps can be seem (exept the tray icons). Perhaps on the right side the list could be slided to the center (as the app-list seems to do from left). But all in all, it seems to be a good idea. Greetings Bastian wp schrieb: Dear Community, As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which I can do what I do now. Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;) While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! WP -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI2XI2lYiDScJJ+7QRAkNXAJ9hCzIowSLoR6+ai1O9KNgSqLk8QQCePCpw FHjEOHX3pEvH1gCpH6kjL5A= =gtUb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
On September 23, 2008 15:16:26 wp wrote: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png These look really nice :) One problem I see, though, it seems that without a stylus, the links (and just hyperlinks in general) are _really_ hard to press. I think we should be optimizing for finger-based usability instead. Ideally, each of those widgets would not use hyperlinks but rather buttons (i.e. a bigger target a la Fitt's law; perhaps draw a border around each display module, showing that the entire thing can be pressed for a much larger click area. -- Kelvie Wong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
For me fso-gpsd didn't work right so i changed back to gpsd and everything works like a charm with gps. :) Maybe you try installing gpsd and deinstall fso-gpsd. Ciao, Rainer Christian Weßel wrote: Hello, tangogps and fso-gpsd were installed from http://ftp2.de.debian.org, but I get no fix. In the Trip tab tango shows allways an alternating GPS Time (Tue 1999-11-30 00:00:00 or Fri 1999-11-31 01:00:00) and Satelites: 11/0. The rest is zero. The zhone internal gps appl. shows at the start view at all items N/A, and at the satelite view are about 10 satelites shown. The FR ran the whole evening next to a window in a wooden house, but it got no fix. I couldn't remove the SD card of using Debian installed on it :-}. Is my FR one of these ones with the SD card problem? Or is it also fixed by Debian distro? How can I check my GPS? How can I bring it up running? Sorry for all these question, but I couldn't find any solution in the wikis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neopwn
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didier Raboud wrote: Russell Hay wrote: I'm assuming they're not intending to release the full code? Certainly cant see any mentions of license or downloads on their site. Formally, they only have to release the source code to their buyers... ... and then that buyer can release it publicly for everyone else under the terms of the GPL. Who's going to volunteer to buy one? [In reality, I'm expecting they will make the source code available at the same time they start shipping their first units. A security testing system without source code available for security review would not fly with most people ...] So far they've either redirected or ignored my requests for their custom kernel changes. They also claim all of the source code for the security apps can be downloaded from their software page. Did you purchase a device from them? The GPL does not require source code availability to just anyone who wants it - the distributor only needs to provide it to those people to whom they distribute the binary. I agree that a good open source citizen should provide the source publicly as soon as it is available (i.e. even before the binary is distributed), but the GPL simply doesn't require that so you can't demand that. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] getting zhone sid ringtones working
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using debian and zhone. sid ringtones doesnt work, only the buzzer works. I installed sidplay2, and oss-compat, and sidplay2 works from the command line. zhone cant find it though. Any hints? -- use the gstream sid plugin Ok, I tried: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly apt-get install python-gst0.10 this was not sufficient. Any more hints? apt-cache search gstreamer sid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
To check the raw data coming out of the device, do cat /dev/ttySAC1 | grep GGA This should give you a line of data every second or so. Once a fix has been established, these lines contain latitude,longitude values in plain ASCII. The gpsd daemon (whether true gpsd or fso-gpsd) should make this data available on port 2947. Check this with nc 127.0.0.1 2947 | grep GGA If the daemon works, you should get the same data here, as above. Good luck. On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:03:53 +0200 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me fso-gpsd didn't work right so i changed back to gpsd and everything works like a charm with gps. :) Maybe you try installing gpsd and deinstall fso-gpsd. Ciao, Rainer Christian Weßel wrote: Hello, tangogps and fso-gpsd were installed from http://ftp2.de.debian.org, but I get no fix. In the Trip tab tango shows allways an alternating GPS Time (Tue 1999-11-30 00:00:00 or Fri 1999-11-31 01:00:00) and Satelites: 11/0. The rest is zero. The zhone internal gps appl. shows at the start view at all items N/A, and at the satelite view are about 10 satelites shown. The FR ran the whole evening next to a window in a wooden house, but it got no fix. I couldn't remove the SD card of using Debian installed on it :-}. Is my FR one of these ones with the SD card problem? Or is it also fixed by Debian distro? How can I check my GPS? How can I bring it up running? Sorry for all these question, but I couldn't find any solution in the wikis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
