Re: My Suggestions for FDOM
For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other than the Qtopia image and can tell me how to do it, I'll have a go (or if they want to have a go themselves I can provide the sources) - but I don't have the spare time to experiment with the build systems to get something that works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:48:38 +1000 Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SO) wrote: On Friday 26 September 2008 09:53:56 Glen Ogilvie wrote: Hi, Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)? This bug has been around for quite a long time and is critical and affecting many users. Can anyone actually suspend and resume reliability? Without being able to suspend and resume, using the gta02 as a phone is not really possible for myself anyway. I am more than happy to assist in any way I can, but I am not a kernel hacker, so can't make code changes at this level to fix it. I use testing and have had no problems for the last 3 weeks, maybe more. Actually there was one update which I think broke it, but testing updates daily so was fixed the next day. I don't recommend testing ... well ... because it's testing. But I can honestly say I've had a great experience. I don't modify the base system, I just wrap around it :) ... and testing has nearly always worked as a daily phone for me, without tweaks. It may be just a touch soft but nothing like qtopia ;) Sarton I use testing too but no luck :( , tried opkg upgrade right now and just copied kernel version from wsod freerunner by ssh: kernel-image-2.6.24 - 3:2.6.24+gitr109+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2 - is there any special procedure you follow? boot up with usb in/out? suspend with usb in/out? -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cachewolf for Openmoko
yes i know, unfortunatly i didn't find a solution. i think it can be related to a gtk setting in gconf or something like that. In /home/root/.gconf there has to be a gconf.xml somewhere perhaps we can change it there ?? reboot needed! greetings vale Petr Vanek wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:02:31 -0700 (PDT) vale [EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) wrote: Hi, i just wanted to report that i have made a version of Cachewolf (http://www.cachewolf.de/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage) for the freerunner. It is a program to manage your Geocaches (www.geocaching.com). Unfortunatly all info about Cachewolf in German ... You can download it here: http://files.openomy.com/public/bubbas/cachewolf_1.0.1532_freerunner_ewe_gtk2.tar.gz heya, this is great!!! Thank you very much :) how can you change the compass view size? it somehow didn't take the font config -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Cachewolf-for-Openmoko-tp1119291p1120180.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Vasco Névoa wrote: Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the Trac ticket (#1832, I think)? There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is not finished. I'm sure he will know what to do. :) Done in #2038 [1]! Due to the UCS2 codec usage added in the past days I had to add a workaround, but in all my tests the code works as expected. So, now I'm just waiting for your improvements ;). Bye! [1] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2038 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:49:47 +0200 Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umaxx wrote on 09/25/2008 10:32 PM: hi, i guess it is possible to set a background image in 2008.9? how, where - which file? regards, joerg Hi! I haven't tried 2008.9 yet but assuming its the same as in 2008.8 you just need to decompile the theme file (using edje_decc) ~/.e/e/themes/*.edj or the system-wide default in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj. Have a look at the resulting output (should be a directory containing images and an *.edc file) and change the background file if existant, then recompile it using edje_cc and you're done. Seemed quite a lot of work for me just to change a background but I've discovered that E has a lot of differences compared to other desktop environments and I'm starting to like the principle. I just tried it on the theme found here http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ and it worked out fine. Haven't tried on the default one though - I don't even know if there's a background image specified. Remember to use an image in 640x640 as you'll be rotating your screen :) Hope I could clear this to you and sorry for my sloppy English ;) thanks for your explanation, i will try that soon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
set next boot
lilo has -R option for next boot, grub has similar thing, is there any command that would set priority for next boot? (typical issue: running from a SD card and need to reboot [ wsod :( ] thank you -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIFI Connector Application
Thanks to everybody who relied to this thread you have given my much food for thought. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo Freerunner shown at SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Hi all, there is a good opportunity in October for interested people from Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic and everywhere else to get direct experience with the Freerunner concept and device. Owners, Users, Developers will be at this fair - open for your questions and discussions. You will find the Freerunner at Hall B2 booth 426B (@ Golden Delicious Computers), a hall that also hosts many well known free open source projects as well as large enterprises supporting Open Source (e.g. IBM, Sun). The fair takes place 21.-24.10.2008, opening hours 9:00 - 18:00, at Munich Fair Center (Trudering). If you need a free guest ticket (one day single entry only, valid for public transport in Munich), please send me a private mail. More information about the Fair: http://www.systems.de/link/en/19137019 Golden Delicious Computers, a startup that supports open source within mobile office solutions, is a major reseller for the Freerunner in Europe. We will also have other products on the show: * lightweight 7 MiniNotebook with Debian * OSX / Cocoa compatible GUI Toolkit for handhelds and notebooks (open source) * digital paperpencil solution for OSX More info: http://www.systems.de/link/en/19150410/~/mmg_exvi-action/setModel/ accid/20268685/page/detail/pageno/1/searchcompany/golden%20Delicious %20Computers%20GmbHCo.%20KG/searchtype/advanced http://www.goldelico.com http://www.handheld-linux.com Nikolaus Schaller Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
Hi list-members Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Strange enough Qtopia seems to know that suspending is not good for the SD-card. I don't know why, but every time I have a working Debian system on the SD card, Qtopia refuses to suspend automatically (i.e. the powermanagement settings are ignored). After I forced the first suspend by 'apm -s', everything works like normal again. But then, the SD card's boot partition is corrupted. I tried the workaround with the 00sd_idleclk script which doesn't work for me. Qtopia won't wake up again, and I have to remove the battery. There is another workaround mentioned in ticket 1802: automatically repairing the boot partition by a 'dd' command which is placed in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh. This one works as expected. It's just a little clumsy to have that command inside an init script, since one has to reboot qtopia before one can boot the SD card. It would be better to have that command executed with every shutdown of Qtopia. I'm not familiar with init and shutdown scripts. Can anybody give me a hint, where to place that command (or a shell script) in order to execute it automatically prior to every shutdown? If it works, I will add that solution to the ticket's commentaries. Thanks Sven pgpitfF8j79at.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
Can anybody explain where is the best way to find edje_decc ? Thanks a lot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt
On Friday 26 September 2008 00:05:12 Nicola Mfb wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 25.09.2008, 18:44 +0200 schrieb Michael Tansella: We are 2 Students and are doing a research project with the Freerunner. Now we need to develop a tool with C++ QT. Because of the nice possibilities with dbus we want to do this with FSO. Good idea! Should be working great. Hi Michael, and what's about using qt without dbus in 2009.x? In /opt/Qtopia i found qt4 and qtopia phone libraries, how to build applications with them? thanks Nicola We would really prefer to use FSO and later SHR, we are going to develop a indoor navigation system and perhaps have to add some sensors via Bluetooth or I²C and as I understand dbus would be great for sensor fusion. I tried to add the libs as mentioned in the wiki, but I wasn't successful. It would be very cool if someone could add the QT4 libs to the toolchain or could tell which packages are exactly needed, and I don't know how I can use qmake with the toolchain. Until now I have only developed QT with kdevelop. Geets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to Freerunner!!
4) A good music player, web browser and PDF reader. I can't help on that one. I toyed with the available media players and web browsers several weeks ago and that was all. I like minimo as a web browser. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit? [aux button]
Thought that would be the answer :( An idea would be a config dialog to repurpose the aux button. I dont use the lock function (the button sucks as a regular use button anyway) and could perhaps be used to kill the top application in the viewing stack as 2007.2 power button did. Its not only kobo which has problems like this as a couple of times I have had a unresponsive display probably caused by dialogs not on top. BillK I don't know if that would be possible but I'd love that AUX+click served as right click (or any other way to trigger right clicks). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIFI Connector Application
El día Thursday, September 25, 2008 a las 08:02:18PM +0100, Al Johnson escribió:
I think the work that wpa_supplicant daemon does is only to control the
association to the AP and bringing up the interface; then in FreeBSD
a devd (device daemon) lets you describe what to do else, for example
launch a script when IF_UP; in this script you may, based on the MAC of
the AP, do whatever is needed: ifconfig static IP or DHCP or
it is similiar to what I have described here for the cdce0 (USB) interface:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking#FreeBSD
a logic like that must exist in Debian too, I'm wrong?
and this is not much scripting work, or?
Exactly. The logic exists in debian. wpa_supplicant associates with the
access
point then some scripts apply the configuration you set
in /etc/network/interfaces that matches the AP it associated with.
Unfortunately in 2007.2 the bit that applies the settings is missing. For
someone who knows their way around the inner workings of the debian system it
would probably be easy to fix, but I don't. Since ASU was moving to use
connman instead of the debian method of network management I didn't see the
benefit in digging deeper at the time.
Well, today morning I started investigating the Wifi of the FR gadget:
I configured the MAC addr of the eth0 of FR into my AP;
I enabled the Wifi in the settings and FR saw my home SSID and asked for
the key; this AP at home is WEP protected and the 'password' (which I
normaly use in my laptop) is something like this wpa_supplicant entry:
network={
ssid=tarara
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=NONE
wep_tx_keyidx=0
wep_key0=42FEEDDEAFBABEDEAFBEEFAA55
}
I've typed in the key in the FR again and again but it always said
after some time 'ERROR Unable to join network'
then I SSH'ed into the FR and configured by hand:
# cat /etc/network/interfaces:
...
iface eth0 inet dhcp
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
# cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
network={
ssid=tarara
scan_ssid=0
key_mgmt=NONE
wep_tx_keyidx=0
wep_key0=42FEEDDEAFBABEDEAFBEEFAA55
}
and restarted the eth0 interface with:
# ifdown eth0 ifup eth0
this produced the following output:
sed: unrecognized option `--quiet'
BusyBox v1.9.1 (2008-09-04 08:23:57 CST) multi-call binary
Usage: sed [-efinr] pattern [files...]
WPA: Terminating
sed: unrecognized option `--quiet'
BusyBox v1.9.1 (2008-09-04 08:23:57 CST) multi-call binary
Usage: sed [-efinr] pattern [files...]
WPA: Configuring Interface
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
udhcpc (v1.9.1) started
run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1
Sending discover...
Sending select for 192.168.2.100...
Lease of 192.168.2.100 obtained, lease time 86400
run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1
adding dns 192.168.2.1
the network came up fin, including DNS:
# ping www.muc.de
PING www.muc.de (193.149.48.10): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 193.149.48.10: seq=0 ttl=246 time=96.697 ms
64 bytes from 193.149.48.10: seq=1 ttl=246 time=114.740 ms
64 bytes from 193.149.48.10: seq=2 ttl=246 time=232.842 ms
64 bytes from 193.149.48.10: seq=3 ttl=246 time=154.134 ms
64 bytes from 193.149.48.10: seq=4 ttl=246 time=377.435 ms
64 bytes from 193.149.48.10: seq=5 ttl=246 time=88.150 ms
the routing looks a bit broken: note there are two default gateways:
# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
193.149.48.10 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 eth0
192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0
0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 usb0
it would be nice to create some icon in the Om2008.9 desktop to launch
this ifdown eth0 ifup eth0, but I already learned that this is
another complex storry and at the moment I can't compile the eet library
for modifying the desktop at all; so I have to live with the command on
the sheel (which is not a big thing);
in my office the AP runs WPA-PSK and it seems that it is not associating
at all; the entry in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf reads:
network={
ssid=santaclara
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=XXX
}
again, it is the same as I use in my laptop; and I have no idea why it
does not associate; can I launch somehow the wpa_supplicant in FR in
debug mode? or I will enable the debugging in the AP and have a look
if nobody has some other hint on this;
thx
Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit? [aux button]
2008/9/26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know if that would be possible but I'd love that AUX+click served as right click (or any other way to trigger right clicks). nothing to do with aux, but i recall sebastian someone patched tslib so right-clicks could be emulated, i think with a long tap? have a search through the archives, unless michael's put it on the wiki? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia 4.4 ?
Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Very interested onlooker
Hello everyone, I have been on this list a few days and thought it only decent to introduce my presence. I am using Linux (Mandrake, now Mandriva) since 1999 and discovered the Freerunner at about the same time that rumours started to appear about what is now the Android phone platform. So far I have not gotten either a Freerunner, but with the latest things around Android I am more moving towards the OpenMoko concept. At this moment I use a Qtek WinMo PDA/Phone. I don't call or SMS a lot, I mainly use it for addresses, agenda and some text editting. I have some big questions concerning the Freerunner, and I hope someone here is able to tell me the answers: Is the Freerunner able to run a PIM-like application (if so, what would that be)? Would I be able to take calls through Bluetooth (I have a Parrot Minikit handsfreeset in the car)? Is there a possibility to install, for instance, Abiword on the Freerunner? I have seen in the archives and on the Wiki that people have installed Gentoo and Debian on the MicroSD card, so that sounds positive. Looking forward to your responses, and hoping they are all positive!! The Freerunner videos on Youtube that I have seen so far look very promising. :-) Paul Netherlands -- Judge a tree from its fruit; not from the leaves. -Euripedes http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?
Russell Hay wrote: Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example browser, a location API/example gps apps, Gtalk jabber thingy. and I cannot remember what else. And something else that you'll have to read about when the announcement comes out. :) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
Very nice patch, Treviño. :) Standards-compliance can be a little hairy sometimes. I can see why a responsible, otherwise-occupied person would take a little while to publish. ;) Thanks, and happy hacking! Citando Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vasco Névoa wrote: Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the Trac ticket (#1832, I think)? There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is not finished. I'm sure he will know what to do. :) Done in #2038 [1]! Due to the UCS2 codec usage added in the past days I had to add a workaround, but in all my tests the code works as expected. So, now I'm just waiting for your improvements ;). Bye! [1] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2038 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje I think 2008/9/26 Cédric DUFOUIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anybody explain where is the best way to find edje_decc ? Thanks a lot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?
owww, a teaser! Hope it appears before Christmas :-) 2008/9/26 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Russell Hay wrote: Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example browser, a location API/example gps apps, Gtalk jabber thingy. and I cannot remember what else. And something else that you'll have to read about when the announcement comes out. :) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
web browsing
Hello, How do I(in midori): *install a certificate,because for now I use WEBKIT_IGNORE_SSL_ERRORS=1 midori to be able to view my mail,and it's not very secure. *download things(such as pdf) *enter a web address(such as www.openmoko.org) because i have no windows that shows when i click on go-locations by the way I use 2008.9 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] What, no updates?...
Okay, okay, I get the hint... ;) I'm switching to testing now. I gave up on it a couple of weeks ago because it was very unstable, but since you say it rocks... :) Citando Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 26 September 2008 00:50:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. It's been a long time since the last real update of packages for the 2008.x feeds. Everyday I do opkg update and opkg upgrade and all that comes down is the angstrom version file. Since there are still a lot of bugs to solve, I find this strange... What's happening?... why aren't there any updates? Is OM working on something else entirely, or taking a vacation? :) I get the impression updates are staged fairly well for stable. I use testing (and it runs fantatsic at the moment, can use as a daily phone) and updates are pushed pretty much every day. I guess it comes down to your avenue of participation :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Michael Tansella [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [...] Hi Michael, and what's about using qt without dbus in 2009.x? In /opt/Qtopia i found qt4 and qtopia phone libraries, how to build applications with them? thanks Nicola We would really prefer to use FSO and later SHR, FSO should be the future, while the qtopia phone x11 part of 2008.x will be ported to FSO or will be substituted by some other apps (Zhone?) i asked on the list for this but got no answer. It would be nice to know this, but it seems to be a secret actually. Due to information lacking, personally (take it with care!) I suppose qtopia phone x11 will be dropped, for two reason: 1) developing is encouraged on FSO 2) openmoko does not provide an SDK toolchain and OE support for the qtopia part of 2008.x, for example there are no staging for qtopiamake, qmake and so on in the openmoko oe build tree... you may always bitbake qt4-x11-free that provides staging files, but these are incompatible with qtopia-core library deployed on 2008.x So it's right to use FSO for your application. For Michael: i asked that to have some clarification only, as official Qtopia SDK are incompatible with qtopia-on-x11 and i think qtopia on x11 is not developed at Trolltech, so qtopia.net will not support it... right? we are going to develop a indoor navigation system and perhaps have to add some sensors via Bluetooth or I²C and as I understand dbus would be great for sensor fusion. I tried to add the libs as mentioned in the wiki, but I wasn't successful. It would be very cool if someone could add the QT4 libs to the toolchain or could tell which packages are exactly needed, and I don't know how I can use qmake with the toolchain. Until now I have only developed QT with kdevelop. Geets Michael Well, you may use OpenEmbedded, in the stable tree you have qt 4.3, in the development tree you have qt 4.4. FSO is based on the development tree of OE, so you may use the provided makefile to build your images, qt4.4, and your application. I was not yet able to do it yet as there are some issues, howewer was able to build qt 4.3 on the stable branch of OE and some my applications, so it's may be a little hard or confusing, but you can start developing. In the meaning, if you want a stable and simple environment to start developing, you may use the vmware based trolltech sdk, avoiding to use dbus for the moment, and experimenting qt behavior on a small display while your OE tree came up (it needs a lot of time!). In your code you may use some conditional include to read sensors in other ways than dbus on qtopia, and let the application be compatible with fso, qtopia, and if openmoko provide support for 2008.x too. Where may we start a wiki page on this argument (openmoko, openembedded, fso?) Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion
Hi The more I use my FR the less I like the current input methods. Raster's keyboard is a great improvement but still hardly useful if you're typing in a language other then english (e.g. swiss german). Well, I've got a few questions regarding input methods: - Is it possible to use qtopia handwriting recognition with om? What about the its configuration tools? Is there an openmoko project to create something similar? - A few weeks ago, someone posted a mockup of a partly transparent keyboard covering the whole screen (Can't find the post atm). I think this is a great idea to increase tapping space while typing on such a small screen. Has someone already tried to code something like this? Best regards, Chris P.S. Why can't the default openmoko images not provide descent alsa state files? -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion
The more I use my FR the less I like the current input methods. Raster's keyboard is a great improvement but still hardly useful if you're typing in a language other then english (e.g. swiss german). Did you know you can copy the /usr/share/dict/ files from your PC to your FR, and then you can select this dictionary's on raster's keyboard? So, if you have GNU/Linux on your desktop system and it is translated, you can have keyboard working with your language. If not, I think it wouldn't be very difficult to find those dictionaries. P.S. Why can't the default openmoko images not provide descent alsa state files? I have asked this question a lot (to myself, though :þ ). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:29:39AM +0200, Sven Bretfeld wrote: Hi list-members Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Strange enough Qtopia seems to know that suspending is not good for the SD-card. I don't know why, but every time I have a working Debian system on the SD card, Qtopia refuses to suspend automatically (i.e. the powermanagement settings are ignored). After I forced the first suspend by 'apm -s', everything works like normal again. But then, the SD card's boot partition is corrupted. I guess what happens is that Qtopia starts scanning all the files on the SD card. It is designed to be run from internal flash with your MP3s on the SD card, so it scans all the files there and makes a database of them. With a Debian system on SD, this probably takes hours, and during that Qtopia probably refuses to suspend. You can turn this feature off in a file called Storage.conf lying around somewhere, IIRC. HTH, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 13:27 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more I use my FR the less I like the current input methods. Raster's keyboard is a great improvement but still hardly useful if you're typing in a language other then english (e.g. swiss german). Did you know you can copy the /usr/share/dict/ files from your PC to your FR, and then you can select this dictionary's on raster's keyboard? So, if you have GNU/Linux on your desktop system and it is translated, you can have keyboard working with your language. If not, I think it wouldn't be very difficult to find those dictionaries. I cant remember ever seeing an answer though it used to be asked a lot - but how can you turn off the predictive altogether? It totally frustrating to use for what I do - its so slow and takes too many key strokes to do even anything simple ... BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion
I cant remember ever seeing an answer though it used to be asked a lot - but how can you turn off the predictive altogether? It totally frustrating to use for what I do - its so slow and takes too many key strokes to do even anything simple ... BillK Are you talking about raster's keyboard? I use it on terminal mode the majority of the time. If you talk about Qtopia keyboard, you have to install another keyboard and Add the line export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 into the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia or ...80Qtopia, I don't remember. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt
Where may we start a wiki page on this argument (openmoko, openembedded, fso?) I would create the page with a link on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide and categorize it under http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Application_Developer Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
umaxx wrote on 09/26/2008 09:04 AM: thanks for your explanation, i will try that soon welcome - just give me a message if you need further help. cu, Georg -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Very interested onlooker
I have been on this list a few days and thought it only decent to introduce my presence. Welcome then. Is the Freerunner able to run a PIM-like application (if so, what would that be)? Trolltech ported Qtopia to the FIC Neo Freerunner and 1973 phone, I have never read about anybody daring to use evolution or kontact. Would I be able to take calls through Bluetooth (I have a Parrot Minikit handsfreeset in the car)? Don't expect that to work automagically. Pairing with a Bluetooth handsfreeset and routing GSM to it can be made to work. Here is the recipe: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Headset_Audio Is there a possibility to install, for instance, Abiword on the Freerunner? I have seen in the archives and on the Wiki that people have installed Gentoo and Debian on the MicroSD card, so that sounds positive. I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. Why anyone would use a smartphone for wordprocessing is beyond the understanding of mere a mortal like me. You need a real keyboard to do any serious typing. Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion
Thanks, thats jogged a memory 89qtopia! BillK On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:19 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant remember ever seeing an answer though it used to be asked a lot - but how can you turn off the predictive altogether? It totally frustrating to use for what I do - its so slow and takes too many key strokes to do even anything simple ... BillK Are you talking about raster's keyboard? I use it on terminal mode the majority of the time. If you talk about Qtopia keyboard, you have to install another keyboard and Add the line export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 into the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia or ...80Qtopia, I don't remember. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Very interested onlooker
On 26/09/2008 14:49, Minh Ha Duong wrote: I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. Why anyone would use a smartphone for wordprocessing is beyond the understanding of mere a mortal like me. You need a real keyboard to do any serious typing. The idea is to be able to visualize such document. Or to able to make a tiny correction while you don't have your desktop computer at hand. The goal is of course not to write your entire document :-) Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?
Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. we have to wait few days or weeks? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I use testingt, too. Suspend is working well for me. I boot sometimes with usb and sometimes without. IMHO testing works well unlike unstable, which forced me to reflash the filesystem cause it crashed it. Now I'm lucky again with testing. Greetings Bastian Petr Vanek schrieb: On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:48:38 +1000 Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SO) wrote: On Friday 26 September 2008 09:53:56 Glen Ogilvie wrote: Hi, Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)? This bug has been around for quite a long time and is critical and affecting many users. Can anyone actually suspend and resume reliability? Without being able to suspend and resume, using the gta02 as a phone is not really possible for myself anyway. I am more than happy to assist in any way I can, but I am not a kernel hacker, so can't make code changes at this level to fix it. I use testing and have had no problems for the last 3 weeks, maybe more. Actually there was one update which I think broke it, but testing updates daily so was fixed the next day. I don't recommend testing ... well ... because it's testing. But I can honestly say I've had a great experience. I don't modify the base system, I just wrap around it :) ... and testing has nearly always worked as a daily phone for me, without tweaks. It may be just a touch soft but nothing like qtopia ;) Sarton I use testing too but no luck :( , tried opkg upgrade right now and just copied kernel version from wsod freerunner by ssh: kernel-image-2.6.24 - 3:2.6.24+gitr109+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2 - is there any special procedure you follow? boot up with usb in/out? suspend with usb in/out? -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI3OLplYiDScJJ+7QRAoUBAKCqRP7DwxfX58FFczg2d72RV2R/CACfTkus iqPaWP0xMPx+lswrw11yk5E= =PERC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Very interested onlooker
Hello Minh (and others) Trolltech ported Qtopia to the FIC Neo Freerunner and 1973 phone, I have never read about anybody daring to use evolution or kontact. From what I have seen online, about Qtopia, it looks good. Thank you. Don't expect that to work automagically. Pairing with a Bluetooth handsfreeset and routing GSM to it can be made to work. Here is the recipe: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Headset_Audio Great, that looks like it's feasible. No rocket science. I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. Why anyone would use a smartphone for wordprocessing is beyond the understanding of mere a mortal like me. You need a real keyboard to do any serious typing. *grin* I need something to write on for some daily scribbles, like a short journal, once in a while. Abiword is not necessary, I don't need a full fledged wordprocessor. Just was wondering. I think I have enough info now, for which I thank you very much! Paul (off to order a Freerunner...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Party @ Bern/Switzerland @ Friday 3. October 2008 @ 16:00
Hello Community I want to invite you all to our Openmoko Party in Bern/Switzerland. We try to get the people interested in Openmoko together to have some good talks about our favorite mobile device/phone. What: Drinks, Food, Speeches Fun BYOS (Bring your own Speech) When: Oct 03. 16:00 CEST 2008 Where: Puzzle ITC Offices Eigerplatz 4 3007 Bern You are in? Let us know: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope to see many of you there and i wish you all a nice weekend Greetings Andy http://www.puzzle.ch/news/n080910_openmokoparty.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
help building ipk packages
hi community gurus, I've done my homework, at least I tried to, reading through the wiki and elsewhere http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1084542 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake_recipe http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2007/09/26/0 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customizing_the_Openmoko_Distribution#Adding_Python_scripts_as_applications http://handhelds.org/~pb/bitbake.pdf still building a simple package remains a mystery to me following the instructions of the wiki, regarding the setup of openembed the monotone command always fail (at least 6 retries):: $ mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org mtn: finding items to synchronize: mtn: certificates | keys | revisions mtn: 76,060 | 76 |25,058 mtn: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in mtn: 1.4 M | 1.3 M |0 | 0 mtn: bytes in | bytes out |certs in | revs in mtn: 3.1 M | 1.4 M | 1,797/4,018 | 441/991 mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting Time spent in user mode (CPU seconds) : 3270.584s Time spent in kernel mode (CPU seconds) : 49.617s Total time : 4:22:48.15s However, MY QUESTION IS : how can I build an ipk package out of a project source file ?? please, can someone, give a simple example, choosing a running program of some kind, of the steps to follow the bb recipe and the procedure to produce a small ipk All I've found is scarecely documented, and is concerning a global image for the moko. many, many thanks NiL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:46:34 +0200 Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umaxx wrote on 09/26/2008 09:04 AM: thanks for your explanation, i will try that soon welcome - just give me a message if you need further help. it is working, fine - thank you :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?
Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. we have to wait few days or weeks? It depends on how big the corner is! :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help building ipk packages
Not using bb, but this is how I made a small ipk from source: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3 Joseph 2008/9/26 Nicolas Laurance [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi community gurus, I've done my homework, at least I tried to, reading through the wiki and elsewhere http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1084542 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake_recipe http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2007/09/26/0 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customizing_the_Openmoko_Distribution#Adding_Python_scripts_as_applications http://handhelds.org/~pb/bitbake.pdf still building a simple package remains a mystery to me following the instructions of the wiki, regarding the setup of openembed the monotone command always fail (at least 6 retries):: $ mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org mtn: finding items to synchronize: mtn: certificates | keys | revisions mtn: 76,060 | 76 |25,058 mtn: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in mtn: 1.4 M | 1.3 M |0 | 0 mtn: bytes in | bytes out |certs in | revs in mtn: 3.1 M | 1.4 M | 1,797/4,018 | 441/991 mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting Time spent in user mode (CPU seconds) : 3270.584s Time spent in kernel mode (CPU seconds) : 49.617s Total time : 4:22:48.15s However, MY QUESTION IS : how can I build an ipk package out of a project source file ?? please, can someone, give a simple example, choosing a running program of some kind, of the steps to follow the bb recipe and the procedure to produce a small ipk All I've found is scarecely documented, and is concerning a global image for the moko. many, many thanks NiL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit?
On Thursday 25 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I installed the kobodeluxe game for the kid, but we cant figure out how to exit it :( Even if you go through 5 new lives and get the menu, hitting quit with a stylus just takes you back into the game. Ended up removing the battery. How? IIRC tap at the top of the screen moves menu selection up, tapping at the bottom moves it down and tapping in the middle accepts the current menu item. If you try to treat it as a point-and-click app by tapping Quit you end up accepting new game instead. Took me a while to work that one out, usually after accidentally starting it when I was trying to scroll through the Applications menu! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Very interested onlooker
On Friday 26 September 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote: Is there a possibility to install, for instance, Abiword on the Freerunner? I have seen in the archives and on the Wiki that people have installed Gentoo and Debian on the MicroSD card, so that sounds positive. I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. Why anyone would use a smartphone for wordprocessing is beyond the understanding of mere a mortal like me. You need a real keyboard to do any serious typing. A bit like one of the bluetooth keyboards ;-) Having access to a spreadsheet and word processor was one of the things that made the Psion 5 really useful. It was _so_ frustrating when the subsequent Symbian devices dropped these apps from the package. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help building ipk packages
Joseph Reeves wrote: Not using bb, but this is how I made a small ipk from source: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3 Adding a control file like: Package: $name Section: $section Priority: optional Version: $version Architecture: armv4t Maintainer: $your-name Depends: $comma-separated-dependencies Description: $description Source: $archive-origin (http, svn, git...) Could help (mostly for dependencies)... To use it, you've only to copy it in a software-control file and use om-make-ipkg $sw-path software-control To build the ipk... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to Freerunner!!
Kishore wrote: Currently downloading image So i should use the same kernel image as the 2008.8 but only reflash the rootfs i presume? FDOM does look interesting. I flashed both myself and haven't had any major problems, every now and then I'll have to reboot or it may get stuck in suspend but nothing major and not often either. -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to Freerunner!!
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to this community. I just got myself the freerunner a couple of days back. I am a fairly experienced user of Linux/Debian/Kubuntu on the desktop and this is my first experience with something like the freerunner. Maybe you would be interested in Debian on the Freerunner? Cheers, Federico ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt
On September 26, 2008 01:32:57 Michael Tansella wrote: We would really prefer to use FSO and later SHR, we are going to develop a indoor navigation system and perhaps have to add some sensors via Bluetooth or I²C and as I understand dbus would be great for sensor fusion. I tried to add the libs as mentioned in the wiki, but I wasn't successful. It would be very cool if someone could add the QT4 libs to the toolchain or could tell which packages are exactly needed, and I don't know how I can use qmake with the toolchain. Until now I have only developed QT with kdevelop. Geets Michael In the meantime, I've managed to get PyQt4 working (hooked up against Qt-x11); this eliminates the need for a toolchain (or even building apps in general). There's another thread about that on this list. -- Kelvie Wong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Install Debian without internet access
Hi, I can't connect to the internet from my freerunner. Usb network and ssh is working. Wifi and bluetooth is not working. I would like to install debian, because i think on debian wifi should work. Freerunner: Om2007.2 (over terminal i can install ipk-packages, but dependences are to deep to load every file manually) Freerunner SD(2GB): Om2008 (wifi finds an unsecured net, but is not able to connect) Laptop: Ubuntu 8.04 (I tried to install a dhcp router but didn't work. I tried also forwadings over iptables but didn't work) Has someone some ideas wich could help me? _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to Freerunner!!
On Friday 26 Sep 2008 9:49:25 pm Federico Lorenzi wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to this community. I just got myself the freerunner a couple of days back. I am a fairly experienced user of Linux/Debian/Kubuntu on the desktop and this is my first experience with something like the freerunner. Maybe you would be interested in Debian on the Freerunner? If it will give me the basic functionality then i would love that as i would feel at home when administering it! Hopefully it is also well supported! -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to Freerunner!!
On Friday 26 Sep 2008 8:56:29 pm Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Kishore wrote: Currently downloading image So i should use the same kernel image as the 2008.8 but only reflash the rootfs i presume? FDOM does look interesting. I flashed both myself and haven't had any major problems, every now and then I'll have to reboot or it may get stuck in suspend but nothing major and not often either. Flashed FDOM and at least i get to experience some of the hardware features! Wifi connection appeared to have been successful but was unable to browse the net. GPS worked though! Overall feels slow especially when starting apps. Ps: When using the default keyboard layout in a terminal, after typing, how does one input the Enter key? -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Upgrading FDOM
So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 Anyone know how (if it is even possible) to upgrade to this without having to reflash the entire rootfs (such as via a opkg upgrade using some custom feed)? -- Kelvie Wong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Install Debian without internet access
On Sep 26, Matthias Camenzind wrote: Freerunner: Om2007.2 (over terminal i can install ipk-packages, but dependences are to deep to load every file manually) Freerunner SD(2GB): Om2008 (wifi finds an unsecured net, but is not able to connect) Laptop: Ubuntu 8.04 (I tried to install a dhcp router but didn't work. I tried also forwadings over iptables but didn't work) Has someone some ideas wich could help me? You can try setting up apt-proxy on your laptop, download all needed packages on localhost (aptitude download will suffice). You just need to select or configure proper architecture (man apt.conf /APT::Architecture). Quick Google search shows also this: http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/apt-cross/re01.html Or you can create a local Debian mirror, if you have available disk space, although that would take some time (maybe if there's a way to mirror only selected arch...). Have you tried everything from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking ? Maybe try using different machine/connection/operating system? Good luck, harnir ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?
Lorn Potter wrote: 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example browser, a location API/example gps apps, Gtalk jabber thingy. and I cannot remember what else. Will you be able to integrate the bluetooth headset stuff into the UI by 4.4? Seems someone has got it working on the Wiki, it just requires the terminal right now. It would be nice if you could hook up those menu items when in a call, that routes to bluetooth, speaker or handset. Thanks -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to Freerunner!!
Kishore wrote: Ps: When using the default keyboard layout in a terminal, after typing, how does one input the Enter key? Just swipe your finger downwards. A swipe to the left is backspace and a swipe to the right adds a space. An upward swipe changes keyboard layouts. This is assuming you're talking about the 'default' labeled keyboard that comes with FDOM (Raster's keyboard). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
2008/9/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh, the testing UI. Yes, you can send messages with that one as well. Push 'Messages', then chose a contact from your SIM, then compose your message, then it's going into the outbox and will be sent. Hm. I couldn't make anything like that work. I'll try again though if/when I have Debian installed again. Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.4
I installed the new 0.4 and the notifications are quite cool. :) But i had the problem, that the gsm, usb and brightness icon wasn't shown anymore. After a bit investigation i found out that the new 0.4 deb package misses quite some icons. It misses the following icons: brightness.png usb_drive.png usb_host.png usb_net.png gsm_000.png gsm_020.png gsm_040.png gsm_060.png gsm_080.png gsm_100.png After i copied them from the original.tar.gz everything works good. :) Ciao, Rainer Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi gents, some words of what this is(as it produced some confusion last time: The openmoko-panel-plugin is a gtk based plugin that draws the powerstate of some FR hardware devices(i.e. gsm, gps) to a gtk based panel. theses panels are used i.e. in xfce4. so you can enable or disable the state of your gps receiver. See a screenshot here: http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel.png i just uploaded a new release (0.4) to my server. it can be downloaded from: http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1_all.deb http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1_amd64.changes http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1.diff.gz http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1.dsc http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4.orig.tar.gz Changelog: * fixed many debianizing errors. * adding more dependencies * fixed problems with different versions on my laptop :-( * the menu entry should reappear * click opens a context menu to toggle the powerstate * removed some icons until they are finaly working the credit for the code changed goes to morlac. thank you for the big feature requests in the last mails. some of them are already integrated into the code. but the code needs a big cleanup. so please be patient. i think i will need a weekend to integrate all your suggestions *g* Cu Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Install Debian without internet access
I tried but allways the same error on first line: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name and why --dport 53? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:57:16 + Subject: Re: Install Debian without internet access Am Freitag, den 26.09.2008, 16:54 + schrieb Matthias Camenzind: Hi, I can't connect to the internet from my freerunner. Usb network and ssh is working. Wifi and bluetooth is not working. I would like to install debian, because i think on debian wifi should work. Freerunner: Om2007.2 (over terminal i can install ipk-packages, but dependences are to deep to load every file manually) Freerunner SD(2GB): Om2008 (wifi finds an unsecured net, but is not able to connect) Laptop: Ubuntu 8.04 (I tried to install a dhcp router but didn't work. I tried also forwadings over iptables but didn't work) Has someone some ideas wich could help me? I act also very long time with my iptables till it works fine. I need to run following commands at my server/notebook: iptables -I RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 192.168.0.202 -d 192.168.0.200 --dport 53 -j DNAT --to-destination 212.6.108.140 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -s 192.168.0.202 -d 192.168.0.200 --dport 53 -j DNAT --to-destination 212.6.108.140 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 iptables-save ...and on my FR I set the nameserver to my common one: echo nameserver 212.6.108.140/etc/resolv.conf the sysctl command is most important, otherwise, the forwarding won't work. That's all. -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading FDOM
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 The md5sums seemd to be for different files. If you change the file name in the md5sum, they check out okay. What's up? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?
Well, working sms, phone without echo and resume would be very nice :) The rest is nice to have. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Hay wrote: Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example browser, a location API/example gps apps, Gtalk jabber thingy. and I cannot remember what else. And something else that you'll have to read about when the announcement comes out. :) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] Qwerty button and spanner/wrench
I flashed Om2009 and changed my feeds to testing and opkg upgraded my gta02. There used to be a illume-config and an illume-config-illume in the repositories to enable the qwerty button and the spanner. I can't find them anymore (not in testing, not in unstable) Does anybody know how to get them back? Thanks in advace, Y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit?
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I installed the kobodeluxe game for the kid, but we cant figure out how to exit it :( Even if you go through 5 new lives and get the menu, hitting quit with a stylus just takes you back into the game. Ended up removing the battery. How? IIRC tap at the top of the screen moves menu selection up, tapping at the bottom moves it down and tapping in the middle accepts the current menu item. If you try to treat it as a point-and-click app by tapping Quit you end up accepting new game instead. Took me a while to work that one out, usually after accidentally starting it when I was trying to scroll through the Applications menu! Presumably it's this bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:41 Priority highest, but it hasn't been worked on in a while... It's affecting my work on Duke 3D, too -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Install Debian without internet access
Matthias Camenzind wrote: I tried but allways the same error on first line: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name You might need extra kernel modules. Could you give the exact error message? What I use is this: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 post-up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT + in /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_openmoko.rules KERNEL==usb0, SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add,RUN+=/sbin/ifup usb0 KERNEL==usb0, SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==remove, RUN+=/sbin/ifdown usb0 Of course you also need something like this on your freerunner: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 As for your wifi problem, could you give more details? Can you connect your laptop? What exactly are you trying, and what errors do you get? -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading FDOM
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 10:36 -0700, Kelvie Wong escribió: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 Anyone know how (if it is even possible) to upgrade to this without having to reflash the entire rootfs (such as via a opkg upgrade using some custom feed)? we are working on a script than convert any standard 2008.X updated into a FDOM to achieve this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading FDOM
sorry my fault, I have made some renames manually to clarify but I only have messed things even more. El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 18:45 -0400, Charles Pax escribió: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 The md5sums seemd to be for different files. If you change the file name in the md5sum, they check out okay. What's up? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Suggestions for FDOM
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 07:13 +0100, Tim Wentford escribió: For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other than the Qtopia image and can tell me how to do it, I'll have a go (or if they want to have a go themselves I can provide the sources) - but I don't have the spare time to experiment with the build systems to get something that works. I also like to have in near future a x11 version of the finger drawing qtopia app (scrible or similar name) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Ye olde no sound after resume
Thanks a lot!!! I have no anounced the last update cause of this annoying bug on 20080927 release I have included this fix El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 15:26 +1000, nickd escribió: Flashed the latest copy of FDOM today and I'm having this [1] problem again. Anyone else experiencing problems or just me? Fix for me was uninstalling speech-dispatcher and rebooting. -Nick 1. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1599 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] new release 20080927
Hi all, on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/ you have disponible the new FDOM release. I have just erase previous release because there are some annoying bugs withs calls and no sound. But his has gone thanks to nickd, This release is not as tested as 2008.08 ones but include things, that sure, gonna make you smile, 29 Games :), orrery 2.0, a mplayer frontend pythm, and things than have the last updated not anounced jalimo with java se and me, navit, linphone (not tested but surely some people will smile twice, isn't it Michel Siloh? :) ) in addition to FDOM classics :) As you may notice this is a large amount of programs so in order to not blow away the home with icons I have included a raw,dirty, and a little bit slow script in pygtk that acts as popupmenu /usr/bin/FDsubmenu.py, surely a c/elf program will be more quick and integrated but just I have no time to learn it(yet). Futures versions will include the icon image. Feel free to modify and add features of course. Regarding colaborations , First thanks nacho and armin because without them this release will has not been posible, if you want to colaborate reporting bugs,improvements or sugestions we have a project in http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/fdom/ with a devel list http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/fdom-development thanks to armin, we have also a svn server svn://zoup.org/Fdom with an 2008.09 that we want to transform in a better FDOM but here I call for help, Armin has his neo temporaly out of order, and I was unable to put the svn checkout to boot in a sd card, I want to do this to be able to have a quick way to summit changes, and have a more efective way to make various people to tweak the distro at same time. So if any one succeded to boot froma svn extraction please contacr us to tell us how I will try to update the wiki tomorrow with the modifications but any help will be apreciated here too :) I have not included the kernel image because still the 2008.09 one http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9.uImage.bin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Suggestions for FDOM
El jue, 25-09-2008 a las 23:44 +0100, Tim Dobson escribió: Hi there, I've just moved to FDOM and I love it. I have a few ideas to make it better - these aren't criticisms - it's great at the moment - these are just ideas to make it better - I don't expect anyone to agree about all of them, but these are suggestions... # Midori(with the settings tweaked) is better for the screensize than minimo - I find it more usable Please pass me a link to how to tweak it I will take a look # accel-rotate program, or a way to start/stop it - this is a simple script to use the accelerometers to rotate with xrandr. It seems quite stable. An ipkg is available - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Rotate a way to easyly start/stop will be helpfull When I was running 22007.2, two cool programs I had from Angstrom were: # Quasar - a x11 mplayer front end. This is not perfect for the freerunner - it ideally needs some UI work doing (more than just setting tweaking), especially on it's fonts, however, i have launched mpg QVGA videos with it and watched them as well as listening to music with it. used pythm isted but I take a look at Quasar # Claws Mail A lightweight mail client - with a bit of UI tweaking from the view menu makes a completely usable mail client. Since we have qmail, I guess this is not necessary, but it's a thought. # FBreader? I would love to see an ebook reader but I think there are big dependency issues here :( # Games Personally, I would prefer to get rid of sudoku and to possibly to get kobodeluxe on there. Though not ready yet, keeping an eye on http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/accelgame might be good. # lint-wifi Personally, I prefer lint-wifi to mofi. I really like being able to see the network info it displays (ie IP, DNS DDHCP) as it helps troubleshooting stuff when things dont work :P http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi # wpa_supplicant.conf Possibly modify the default the wpa_supplicant.conf to automatically connect to unencrypted wifi hotspots? :-/ I can't help too much - my stupid OM setup script - (givemeteh)apppznow is pretty much obsolete as a result of FDOM :) so I will help in the ways I can. I have joined the development list and considering all the spare high speed bandwidth I have, I've set up a mirror - http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fadom/ We are also working in a script that way, any help well be apreciated and I will taka a ook at your script too At some point soon I'll get rid of the 'a' in fadom :P I have the mania of call it fsdom... so dont worry, please update the mirror list in the wiki Cheers for the good work, keep it up! :D Thank :) Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Install Debian without internet access
i did first: iptables -N new_chain this worked,but only one time i could ping another pc in my network and opkg recived 404 Error (is trying to connect buildhost.openmoko.org , [I changed to correct directory but there arent packages.sig files]). Ping to WAN is somewehre disabled, i couldn't find where yet. So I removed the line in install.sh (Debian installer) with the ping signal. But I lost connection to internet. Now the problems is my laptop has no access to internet. I will fix this an try again. Wifi problem: wifi finds a network (only one unsecured, but not unsecured form laptop) but can't connect. Same from the command line. udhcpc output: Sending discover... (3x) run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/99avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1 this repeats endless install Debian without internet access Matthias Camenzind wrote: I tried but allways the same error on first line: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name You might need extra kernel modules. Could you give the exact error message? What I use is this: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 post-up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT + in /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_openmoko.rules KERNEL==usb0, SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add,RUN+=/sbin/ifup usb0 KERNEL==usb0, SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==remove, RUN+=/sbin/ifdown usb0 Of course you also need something like this on your freerunner: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 As for your wifi problem, could you give more details? Can you connect your laptop? What exactly are you trying, and what errors do you get? -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading FDOM
On Friday, September 26, 2008 20:15:59 David Samblas wrote: we are working on a script than convert any standard 2008.X updated into a FDOM to achieve this. That's fantastic :) I'll wait until then to upgrade, then. Thanks for the news, -- Kelvie Wong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Install Debian without internet access
Now I'm istalling debain on my freerunner. This is what i did on ubuntu: sudo iptables -N RH-Firewall-1-INPUT sudo iptables -I RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 192.168.0.202 -d 192.168.0.200 --sport 0:65535 --dport 0:65535 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1 sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -s 192.168.0.202 -d 192.168.0.200 --sport 0:65535 --dport 0:65535 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sudo iptables-save and I installed and run Firestarter (not sure if it was necessary) i did first: iptables -N new_chain this worked,but only one time i could ping another pc in my network and opkg recived 404 Error (is trying to connect buildhost.openmoko.org , [I changed to correct directory but there arent packages.sig files]). Ping to WAN is somewehre disabled, i couldn't find where yet. So I removed the line in install.sh (Debian installer) with the ping signal. But I lost connection to internet. Now the problems is my laptop has no access to internet. I will fix this an try again. Wifi problem: wifi finds a network (only one unsecured, but not unsecured form laptop) but can't connect. Same from the command line. udhcpc output: Sending discover... (3x) run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/99avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1 this repeats endless install Debian without internet access Matthias Camenzind wrote: I tried but allways the same error on first line: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name You might need extra kernel modules. Could you give the exact error message? What I use is this: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 post-up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT + in /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_openmoko.rules KERNEL==usb0, SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, RUN+=/sbin/ifup usb0 KERNEL==usb0, SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==remove, RUN+=/sbin/ifdown usb0 Of course you also need something like this on your freerunner: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 As for your wifi problem, could you give more details? Can you connect your laptop? What exactly are you trying, and what errors do you get? -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
