Is there a dist with Some hidden Calypso commands included
Im looking for a dist that have implemented the magic Calypso commands that *might* solve the ECHO issue. I just want to flash my FR. I cant compile new kernels or modules or any of the other cool stuff you kids do. (Some day I might learn but not today) -- /Robin Häggqvist ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there a dist with Some hidden Calypso commands included
Robin Häggqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im looking for a dist that have implemented the magic Calypso commands that *might* solve the ECHO issue. I just want to flash my FR. I cant compile new kernels or modules or any of the other cool stuff you kids do. (Some day I might learn but not today) apt-get source fso-frameworkd grep -ri echo cancel . finds ./framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py:c.append( %N028B ) # Long Echo Cancellation: active, -6db ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there a dist with Some hidden Calypso commands included
There's also a libqtopiaphonemodem on the list that contains the fix as well. You just need to replace the file in /opt/Qtopia/lib I think. Works for me on FDOM (should work on anything using Qtopia4.3.2 for dialing). On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Häggqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im looking for a dist that have implemented the magic Calypso commands that *might* solve the ECHO issue. I just want to flash my FR. I cant compile new kernels or modules or any of the other cool stuff you kids do. (Some day I might learn but not today) apt-get source fso-frameworkd grep -ri echo cancel . finds ./framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py:c.append( %N028B ) # Long Echo Cancellation: active, -6db ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] SIM pin entry
Hi, I decided to try android on my freerunner. It starts up fine here but after booting, the screen is locked and after pressing the Power/Menu button I am asked for my SIM pin. I have tried it now many times with different SIM cards but the result is always the same: It gives me Incorrect SIM pin. Has anybody already managed to enter the pin on his android powered freerunner? btw. If I boot my freerunner without a SIM card, I can use the menu, browse the apps etc. but obviously I cannot place any phone calls. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 9:51:08 am Kishore wrote: On Monday 03 Nov 2008 1:06:49 am Hypnotize wrote: I made a working qtextended version 4.4.2 image for GTA02 here: http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-relea se -working.jffs2 Bluetooth works and yes the bouncing calypso modem fix is included.. Use the latest mwester kernel from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Morten, I tried your update and now bluetooth works. Thanks. However, the phone still does not ring on call and the media player does not play. It begins playback but then the progress bar does not move and there is no audio. This was the same in the qte release too. The mwester kernel that is provided with 4.4.2 release appears to be the same as that available from mwester site so i did not reflash it. Will try that too... Sorry, the kernel provided with 4.4.2 is a testing kernel. Anyway, i flashed the mwester kernel and copied the modules too. Still it does not work. I am running qte from NAND if that matters. Make "Documents" folder in home dir, put some ringtones and change profile settings. or change path to wav files in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] SIM pin entry
Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I guess it works for them.. But I get the same error :( On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I decided to try android on my freerunner. It starts up fine here but after booting, the screen is locked and after pressing the Power/Menu button I am asked for my SIM pin. I have tried it now many times with different SIM cards but the result is always the same: It gives me Incorrect SIM pin. Has anybody already managed to enter the pin on his android powered freerunner? btw. If I boot my freerunner without a SIM card, I can use the menu, browse the apps etc. but obviously I cannot place any phone calls. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Anders H. Kristiansen Stud. polyt., Software Engineering, University of Aalborg, Denmark ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] SIM pin entry
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:27, Anders Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I guess it works for them.. But I get the same error :( Well I could place a call, but I had disabled PIN security before (from another distro or phone). GSM worked to call my voicemail, but I cannot run search network to register to another network. Maybe if you were not previously registered to correct network before (from another phone...), it might fail to register ? And keypad, though present and looking functional, did not issue dial tones during conversation. I could not activate my voicemail options ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] SIM pin entry
Am Mittwoch 05 November 2008 10:27:35 schrieb Anders Kristiansen: Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I guess it works for them.. It could also be that in this case the pin entry was disabled for this SIM card. But I get the same error :( On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I decided to try android on my freerunner. It starts up fine here but after booting, the screen is locked and after pressing the Power/Menu button I am asked for my SIM pin. I have tried it now many times with different SIM cards but the result is always the same: It gives me Incorrect SIM pin. Has anybody already managed to enter the pin on his android powered freerunner? btw. If I boot my freerunner without a SIM card, I can use the menu, browse the apps etc. but obviously I cannot place any phone calls. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 As I tried- * Must have a SD card inside the FR during Android boot, or it will just keep black (with backlight on). * The SD card format also required 2 partitions (first primary partition vfat/ext3 seems both work, second primary using ext3). My current Android setting is using the default 512 MB SD card comes with FreeRunner, 8MB for vfat, rest is using ext3. Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? Can it Android be more flexible regarding this and print messages when one of the (implicit) requirements is not being met? Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there a dist with Some hidden Calypso commands included
Its here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/033312.html I can see it passes the command in to switch echo suppression on in a logread. I havent done any real testing. BillK On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:27 +0530, Carl Lobo wrote: There's also a libqtopiaphonemodem on the list that contains the fix as well. You just need to replace the file in /opt/Qtopia/lib I think. Works for me on FDOM (should work on anything using Qtopia4.3.2 for dialing). On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Häggqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im looking for a dist that have implemented the magic Calypso commands that *might* solve the ECHO issue. I just want to flash my FR. I cant compile new kernels or modules or any of the other cool stuff you kids do. (Some day I might learn but not today) apt-get source fso-frameworkd grep -ri echo cancel . finds ./framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py:c.append( %N028B ) # Long Echo Cancellation: active, -6db ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Pander wrote: On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 As I tried- * Must have a SD card inside the FR during Android boot, or it will just keep black (with backlight on). * The SD card format also required 2 partitions (first primary partition vfat/ext3 seems both work, second primary using ext3). My current Android setting is using the default 512 MB SD card comes with FreeRunner, 8MB for vfat, rest is using ext3. Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nosuid nodev So you will need ext3 on that partition, or you will need to edit that line in init.rc. The advice to use ext2 is based on deep seated but outdated fears about the limited write life of flash devices. I say this having used ext3 for rootfs on CF cards for several years with no ill effects. Can it Android be more flexible regarding this and print messages when one of the (implicit) requirements is not being met? Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- SolutionTrax Limited, Registered in England Wales, Trading as TrueBox Registered office: Silbury Court, 420 Silbury Boulevard, Milton Keynes, MK9 2AF, UK Company Number: 4494022 VAT Registration Number: 825 1952 26 Telephone: +44 (0)845 508 3397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] Re: Android open sourced
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:35:59 + Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AJ) wrote: Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nosuid nodev So you will need ext3 on that partition, or you will need to edit that line in init.rc. The advice to use ext2 is based on deep seated but outdated fears about the limited write life of flash devices. I say this having used ext3 for rootfs on CF cards for several years with no ill effects. how do you change/see this, can you ssh into android (i can only ping it) or did you mount and alter the image before uploading? -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schreef: Sascha Peilicke wrote: As I mentioned in the Funambol threat, there is already a tool which can synchronise via SyncML, but it was written for Qtopia-4.3.1 so someone might have to look at it .. Wait, here is the text of the older post: I guess this is an open secret already, but just in case someone wants to have a synchronisation solution which uses SyncML: https://code.launchpad.net/~sasch-pe/+junk/qtopia-ds Ehm... Link has changed [1] :P. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~saschpe/+junk/qtopia-ds I wish I could help out here, this is so important for this type of phone! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
2008/11/5 Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: not relevant because debian doesn't use xglamo. At the moment it uses For some odd reason, the recommended install doesn't use it, but the OpenMoko wiki does mention that it's a good idea to install it. I hope Debian users all use xglamo, since it's smaller and more efficient. I didn't notice any performance improvement when I tried xglamo (instead of xorg). I did notice: - Alt Tab not working - messed up fonts on the matchbox-keyboard - xrandr not working well enough to be a significant benefit (not smooth, and windows moving to wrong positions) so I'm back with xorg. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] Answer calll problems
Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? greeting Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A new open source hardware: TV-B-Gone
(should be posting this to hardware, but not sure of how much people are reading it :) ) the inventor of TV-B-Gone decided to opensource his greatest invention: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/11/patentbgone_inventor_mitc.html nice move :) PS: can we have IRDA on GTA0n? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A new open source hardware: TV-B-Gone
(should be posting this to hardware, but not sure of how much people are reading it :) ) the inventor of TV-B-Gone decided to opensource his greatest invention: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/11/patentbgone_inventor_mitc.html nice move :) PS: can we have IRDA on GTA0n? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there a dist with Some hidden Calypso commands included
Robin Häggqvist wrote: Im looking for a dist that have implemented the magic Calypso commands that _might_ solve the ECHO issue. I just want to flash my FR. I cant compile new kernels or modules or any of the other cool stuff you kids do. (Some day I might learn but not today) Just to be clear, the 'magic Calypso commands' turn on the modem's hardware echo suppression and/or noise cancellation, depending on exactly which command is used. This will allow more gain on the earpiece and mic before echo starts, but if you turn things up too high you will still get echo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 10:35 +, Alastair Johnson wrote: Pander wrote: On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: ... Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nosuid nodev So you will need ext3 on that partition, or you will need to edit that line in init.rc. The advice to use ext2 is based on deep seated but outdated fears about the limited write life of flash devices. I say this having used ext3 for rootfs on CF cards for several years with no ill effects. ... and in my experience, ext2 is even more fragile than vfat (had both on the same card) and collects errors. Just moved them to ext3 an hour ago to see if that improves matters (sandisk 8G) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
And the people from Android are not willing to have such buttons in a soft way, they will not put them on software, the phone must have at least four buttons. How could we survive? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 05/11/2008, at 11:03, Christophe Badoit wrote: Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/numptyphysics/ http://www.opkg.org/package_3.html UPDATED Thanks for feedbacks. are there plans to merge these changes to upstream Numptypythings I have discussed a lot of with upstream, they know what I'm doing (newer engine and scalable window are from my feature request and partly from my code). OnScreenKeyboard can now be toggled ON/OFF with keyboard, so next step is toggling it ON with commandline parameter. (It needs some testing and polishing before it goes upstream) So I think one package is enough. Would it be possible for the Open Embedded package maintainer to update it to use autotools and apply the patches developed here ? I do not know anything about autotools and crosscompiling, so I will be happy if someone take this project to part of some official system. - There are some crashes (i.e when drawing over the virtaul keyboard) I can't produce this. If you can, start from terminal or ssh, so you got error messages and send to me. NOT-CONFIRMED-YET - It's so much slower This is under discussion in upstream. Meanwhile I dropped physics iteration rate (like older fr-np version did). FIXED - The virtual keyboard is very hard to use. I added some click-threshold. (Now it is same than used with hildon) FIXED Exec=xrandr -o 3 numptyphysics -geometry 640x480; xrandr -o 0 I fixed .desktop-file. FIXED -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
hi roland, Roland Kossel wrote: With speakerphone mode didn't work - do you mean the acoustic feedback? I found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls. freerunner with qt extended serves as my daily phone as well. can you share your 'compiled library' and some instruction? i would be very happy to have sound improved properly. thanks, jurg. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QT-Extended--Observersation-on-QtE-4.4.2-tp1456360p1460279.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A new open source hardware: TV-B-Gone
Sébastien Lorquet wrote: (should be posting this to hardware, but not sure of how much people are reading it :) ) the inventor of TV-B-Gone decided to opensource his greatest invention: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/11/patentbgone_inventor_mitc.html nice move :) PS: can we have IRDA on GTA0n? :) I saw it for quite a some time on http://www.ladyada.net/make/tvbgone/ http://www.ladyada.net/make/tvbgone/ along with minty boost charger. It seems to be of limited usefulness as a stand alone device, but turning FR into universal remote control is indeed a nice idea. By the way would it turn off arrivals/departures monitors in an airport? And if so, would it count as an act of terrorism? ;) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-new-open-source-hardware%3A-TV-B-Gone-tp1459956p1460133.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Denis Galvão a écrit : On 05/11/2008, at 11:03, Christophe Badoit wrote: Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) And the people from Android are not willing to have such buttons in a soft way, they will not put them on software, the phone must have at least four buttons. How do you know this ? (no offense, I'd just like to know if it's true or if it's a guess...) -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
LSCD project
Hi List, LSCD is a LSC servo control project. We can using Neo to control the LSC-10 chip and controls 10 servos at the same time. Each servo can rotate 180 degrees, precision to 0.09 degree (0~2000). Servo torsion is from 7 kg to 300 kg. I think Neo is the perfect brain of this kind of stuff. It has G-sensers, GPS, GSM, GPRS, SMS, bluetooth, wifi, and most of all, it's all free. How many possibility it can be if we can let Neo move. The project site is at http://code.google.com/p/lscd/ liblscd is the library in which try to open the LSC hiddev device, and then control all the servos. The API is very simple. It is designed to support multiple chips. And it can detect chip types to give correct controls. (Now there is only one type of chip. LSC-10) pylsc is the python-binding of liblscd. It's origionally my personal project, and wrote this on my leisure time. Now I want to share this project with everyone. :-) Welcome to join. If you are interested in this project and want to help, please e-mail your google code account to me. There is a robot legs demo http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3fAHFNs2c I used pylsc controling the robot through bluetooth network. LSC chip and the servos are products of http://www.lattebox.com/e-index.php TODO: . I want to write a LSCD service of FSO, and connect LSCD with frameworks's event daemon. . I want to write another demo of legs in which get feedback from Neo's acceleration sensers. Learning how to stand/walk by itself. . I want to build a modle boat (shorter than 1m), put Neo on that boat and let it drive the boat. Sending om-locations' tag and let the boat comes. Once done I will go to sun-moon lake and play with that. :P . Write more comments and using doxygen to generate library documents. . more ideas!! . more wiki contents. (I am too lazy ~_~) . maybe I will need to find a mailing list for this. Cheers, Tick signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
jurg van Vliet wrote: hi roland, Roland Kossel wrote: With speakerphone mode didn't work - do you mean the acoustic feedback? I found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls. freerunner with qt extended serves as my daily phone as well. can you share your 'compiled library' and some instruction? i would be very happy to have sound improved properly. thanks, jurg. I believe there are (a lot!) more people interested in this, or at least I think the sound bugs (mainly echo issue) are one of the most annoying bugs in the 4.4.2 release (actually in any release in any distro). So please share your solution! I will be very thankful :) Cheers, Tha_Man -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QT-Extended--Observersation-on-QtE-4.4.2-tp1456360p1460622.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Talked to hackbod on the #android freenode room. Im not sure if it is official, but this is what he told me yesterday. -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 05/11/2008, at 12:58, Christophe Badoit wrote: Denis Galvão a écrit : On 05/11/2008, at 11:03, Christophe Badoit wrote: Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) And the people from Android are not willing to have such buttons in a soft way, they will not put them on software, the phone must have at least four buttons. How do you know this ? (no offense, I'd just like to know if it's true or if it's a guess...) -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any hope for bug #666?
JC Denton wrote: Hi, is there any new info / progress on bug #666 ( http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the trac/wiki? That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most likely wont work with my O2 sim. I have tried at least 2 designs and 3 O2 UK sim cards in it. none worked. Subsequently I moved to Orange UK. Not any difference in prices really... but it works nicely... Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any hope for bug #666?
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 16:28 +, Tim Dobson wrote: JC Denton wrote: Hi, is there any new info / progress on bug #666 ( http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the trac/wiki? That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most likely wont work with my O2 sim. I have tried at least 2 designs and 3 O2 UK sim cards in it. none worked. Subsequently I moved to Orange UK. Not any difference in prices really... but it works nicely... Odd, I was asked to try UK O2 Sim and it works fine. And mine was even the same design that was supposed to not work. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LSCD project
This is what I like, a very innovative application of Freerunner. Well done!! Can't wait to see more :) r | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 2:56:48 pm Adam Kasjanowicz wrote: On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 9:51:08 am Kishore wrote: On Monday 03 Nov 2008 1:06:49 am Hypnotize wrote: I made a working qtextended version 4.4.2 image for GTA02 here: http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-relea se -working.jffs2 Bluetooth works and yes the bouncing calypso modem fix is included.. Use the latest mwester kernel from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Morten, I tried your update and now bluetooth works. Thanks. However, the phone still does not ring on call and the media player does not play. It begins playback but then the progress bar does not move and there is no audio. This was the same in the qte release too. The mwester kernel that is provided with 4.4.2 release appears to be the same as that available from mwester site so i did not reflash it. Will try that too... Sorry, the kernel provided with 4.4.2 is a testing kernel. Anyway, i flashed the mwester kernel and copied the modules too. Still it does not work. I am running qte from NAND if that matters. Make Documents folder in home dir, put some ringtones and change profile settings. or change path to wav files in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf I noticed that /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/SystemRingTones is missing in the 4.4.2 release. I copied this folder from the old release and it works now. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
MokoMakefile make toolchain error
I'm trying to use MokoMafile to build a toolchain (make toolchain), and I'm getting the error below. I can do other operation (e.g. make image) without errors. Thanks in advance for any help! Jim NOTE: package meta-toolchain-openmoko-1.0: started NOTE: package meta-toolchain-openmoko-1.0-r1: task do_populate_sdk: started ERROR: function do_populate_sdk failed ERROR: log data follows (/media/disk/jim/projects/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-armv4t-sdk-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/meta-toolchain-openmoko-1.0-r1/temp/log.do_populate_sdk.12909) | /media/disk/jim/projects/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-armv4t-sdk-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/meta-toolchain-openmoko-1.0-r1/temp/run.do_populate_sdk.12909: line 175: package_update_index_ipk: command not found NOTE: Task failed: /media/disk/jim/projects/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-armv4t-sdk-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/meta-toolchain-openmoko-1.0-r1/temp/log.do_populate_sdk.12909 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: And the people from Android are not willing to have such buttons in a soft way, they will not put them on software, the phone must have at least four buttons. How could we survive? Easy, you fork Android, and do git merge from time to time. I am happy to offer git hosting. -- Asheesh. -- The worst is enemy of the bad.___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:08:11 Jelle De Loecker wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schreef: Sascha Peilicke wrote: As I mentioned in the Funambol threat, there is already a tool which can synchronise via SyncML, but it was written for Qtopia-4.3.1 so someone might have to look at it .. Wait, here is the text of the older post: I guess this is an open secret already, but just in case someone wants to have a synchronisation solution which uses SyncML: https://code.launchpad.net/~sasch-pe/+junk/qtopia-ds Ehm... Link has changed [1] :P. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~saschpe/+junk/qtopia-ds I wish I could help out here, this is so important for this type of phone! I might be tempted to port it to QtExtended but I currently have neither a phone nor much time. basically it should work just fine, if QtExtended is binary compatible to Qtopia-4.3.1. Maybe I'll find the time to fix it up in the next weeks ... -- Sascha Peilicke http://saschpe.wordpress.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Denis Galvão a écrit : Talked to hackbod on the #android freenode room. Im not sure if it is official, but this is what he told me yesterday. Thank you for the source. This is indeed bad news if all android apps have to be patched to be usable on the FR :-( -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LSCD project
Man, that's just what I wanted to start doing with my colleagues as one of our projects on the university ;) Great work! I'll watch ya ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Christophe Badoit wrote: Denis Galvão a écrit : Talked to hackbod on the #android freenode room. Im not sure if it is official, but this is what he told me yesterday. Thank you for the source. This is indeed bad news if all android apps have to be patched to be usable on the FR :-( They don't; there's got to be several ways around this, from USB or BT keyboards to softkeys that run at a layer android doesn't know about to faking multiple buttons from the two available ones based on chording and press duration. --pj ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Networking
Dear group, I just installed (following the wiki) 2008.9 on my FR and tried to connect from a debian box. Applied the following: --- Debian, Ubuntu and others Edit /etc/network/interfaces and add: auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 --- as mentioned in: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking After re-booting the debian box and connected my FR via USB, ifconfig -a shows: --- usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 9A:99:92:BD:1A:34 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) --- and ping to 192.168.0.202 returns nothing! Your help is much appreciated! Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
This is not the way I wanna go. I don't believe in forks, I believe in one strong community. -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 05/11/2008, at 15:41, Asheesh Laroia wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: And the people from Android are not willing to have such buttons in a soft way, they will not put them on software, the phone must have at least four buttons. How could we survive? Easy, you fork Android, and do git merge from time to time. I am happy to offer git hosting. -- Asheesh. -- The worst is enemy of the bad.___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
I just made a new image with the SystemRingTones folder included and change the rootfs to the one that is used in the Qt Extended 4.4.1 image. The new image is ~29 Mb smaller then the last one to..!;) http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2 -Morten On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 2:56:48 pm Adam Kasjanowicz wrote: On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 9:51:08 am Kishore wrote: On Monday 03 Nov 2008 1:06:49 am Hypnotize wrote: I made a working qtextended version 4.4.2 image for GTA02 here: http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-relea se -working.jffs2 Bluetooth works and yes the bouncing calypso modem fix is included.. Use the latest mwester kernel from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Morten, I tried your update and now bluetooth works. Thanks. However, the phone still does not ring on call and the media player does not play. It begins playback but then the progress bar does not move and there is no audio. This was the same in the qte release too. The mwester kernel that is provided with 4.4.2 release appears to be the same as that available from mwester site so i did not reflash it. Will try that too... Sorry, the kernel provided with 4.4.2 is a testing kernel. Anyway, i flashed the mwester kernel and copied the modules too. Still it does not work. I am running qte from NAND if that matters. Make Documents folder in home dir, put some ringtones and change profile settings. or change path to wav files in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf I noticed that /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/SystemRingTones is missing in the 4.4.2 release. I copied this folder from the old release and it works now. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
2008/11/5 Hypnotize [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just made a new image with the SystemRingTones folder included and change the rootfs to the one that is used in the Qt Extended 4.4.1 image. The new image is ~29 Mb smaller then the last one to..!;) http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2 thanks! not only qterminal is missing :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking
Tony == Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edit /etc/network/interfaces and add: auto usb0 That's probably not right. You probably want to try allow-hotplug ubs0 instead. auto means to do it at boot time and it may just fail if (for some reason) the usb0 interface is not yet created. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
thanks! now only qterminal is missing :( 2008/11/5 Hypnotize [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just made a new image with the SystemRingTones folder included and change the rootfs to the one that is used in the Qt Extended 4.4.1 image. The new image is ~29 Mb smaller then the last one to..!;) http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2 -Morten On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 2:56:48 pm Adam Kasjanowicz wrote: On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008 9:51:08 am Kishore wrote: On Monday 03 Nov 2008 1:06:49 am Hypnotize wrote: I made a working qtextended version 4.4.2 image for GTA02 here: http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-relea se -working.jffs2 Bluetooth works and yes the bouncing calypso modem fix is included.. Use the latest mwester kernel from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels Morten, I tried your update and now bluetooth works. Thanks. However, the phone still does not ring on call and the media player does not play. It begins playback but then the progress bar does not move and there is no audio. This was the same in the qte release too. The mwester kernel that is provided with 4.4.2 release appears to be the same as that available from mwester site so i did not reflash it. Will try that too... Sorry, the kernel provided with 4.4.2 is a testing kernel. Anyway, i flashed the mwester kernel and copied the modules too. Still it does not work. I am running qte from NAND if that matters. Make Documents folder in home dir, put some ringtones and change profile settings. or change path to wav files in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf I noticed that /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/SystemRingTones is missing in the 4.4.2 release. I copied this folder from the old release and it works now. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
This is not the way I wanna go. I don't believe in forks, I believe in one strong community. It's quite normal to have 2 branches: the community version and the corporate version. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian mailing list confusion, Was: openmoko-panel-plugin: patch and bug
Hi, On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:18 +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: I consider pkg-fso to be strictly related to Debian _packaging_ issues. In that sense, the mail was sent appropriately (as it was a request for inclusion in Debian), but a separate release-announcement for the general audience to smartphone-userland would have been good, I guess. yes, it would have been, but the idea to post to the pkg-fso list first was to stop distributing the packages via my own page but through the pkg-fso repo. so i planed to post a announcement after the upload to the pkg-fso repo. -- regards Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Hi folks, after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. the panel-plugin is a little peace of software to show and modify you the state of the hardware in you freerunner(i.e. gsm, gps ...). it should work with any gtk based windowmanager (i.e. xfce). you should now simply get the new version(0.5) through the debian repository(apt-get install openmoko-panel-plugin) or via http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openmoko-panel-plugin/ Changelog: * this is a complete rewrite of the software. now it is much cleaner and better to extend * changed the distribution from unstable to pkg-fso * new battery-icons * extended suspend-behaviour: * on suspend: turning off wifi, bt, gps and sending dbus.preparesuspend * to gsm * on resume: restoring previous power-state of wifi, bt, gps * and sending dbus.prepareresume to gsm * enabled shutdown-button in power-button-window * new high-contrast version * added configWriter to save changed configs to ~/.panel-pluginrc * added config-area for selection of active icons * (order of icons is planned but not implemented yet) * added new 'icon' for button-handling: * aux: * on short press: keyboard-toggle * on longer press (2 sec) window (for now only with close-button) opens * power: * on short press: for now nothing happens * on longer press (2 sec) window with buttons opens: * suspend (functional) * shutdown (for now non-functional) * close (closes window) * added entries for buttons (aux, power) * config-window * some more gsmIcon updates: * corrected dbus-callback-function-header * added location area code (if available from dbus) * now choosing right icon for gsm turned off * corrections to gsmStatus-update work properly * added some try-blocks around file-io to prevent IO-timeouts killing * main-thread * added battery-notification * update to BatteryWindow to reduce resource-usage when BatteryWindow inactive * extended BatteryIcon to show more battery-status in a window and setup * chargingMode (100, 500, 1000mA) * added BrightnessIcon and corrected some threading-related stuff * hold the aux button for more than 2 seconds to enable/disable keyboard * extended GSM-Icon to show network-status * (un)registered * provider * signal-strength * cellid * for tooltip and notification * made notification optional - when python-pynotify is installed * keyboard icon -- regards Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian mailing list confusion, Was: openmoko-panel-plugin: patch and bug
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 05.11.2008, 21:27 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:18 +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: I consider pkg-fso to be strictly related to Debian _packaging_ issues. In that sense, the mail was sent appropriately (as it was a request for inclusion in Debian), but a separate release-announcement for the general audience to smartphone-userland would have been good, I guess. yes, it would have been, but the idea to post to the pkg-fso list first was to stop distributing the packages via my own page but through the pkg-fso repo. so i planed to post a announcement after the upload to the pkg-fso repo. That makes sense. BTW, the package has been uploaded to the archive, arne, can you re-check your problems? And Sebastian, how comes that your mail address is added to the Reply-To? Are you sending from another one that is subscribed? Did you configure it that way? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi folks, after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. the panel-plugin is a little peace of software to show and modify you the state of the hardware in you freerunner(i.e. gsm, gps ...). it should work with any gtk based windowmanager (i.e. xfce). you should now simply get the new version(0.5) through the debian repository(apt-get install openmoko-panel-plugin) or via http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openmoko-panel-plugin/ Changelog: * this is a complete rewrite of the software. now it is much cleaner and better to extend * changed the distribution from unstable to pkg-fso * new battery-icons * extended suspend-behaviour: * on suspend: turning off wifi, bt, gps and sending dbus.preparesuspend * to gsm * on resume: restoring previous power-state of wifi, bt, gps * and sending dbus.prepareresume to gsm * enabled shutdown-button in power-button-window * new high-contrast version * added configWriter to save changed configs to ~/.panel-pluginrc * added config-area for selection of active icons * (order of icons is planned but not implemented yet) * added new 'icon' for button-handling: * aux: * on short press: keyboard-toggle * on longer press (2 sec) window (for now only with close-button) opens * power: * on short press: for now nothing happens * on longer press (2 sec) window with buttons opens: * suspend (functional) * shutdown (for now non-functional) * close (closes window) This is a really nice feature but it collides with the zhone power button behaviour. When i run zhone and press the power button for 2s my fr goes into suspend just a tick after it displays your new menu. After i resume it still shows your menu and goes into suspend a second time. After i shortly press power again it resumes and stays on while still showing your menu. Don't know why it goes into suspend again after the first resume. So maybe it would be good to show your suspend/shutdown window after a short press and not a 2s press? For this button there is no problem with accidential pressing so i think we need no time delay. * added entries for buttons (aux, power) * config-window * some more gsmIcon updates: * corrected dbus-callback-function-header * added location area code (if available from dbus) * now choosing right icon for gsm turned off * corrections to gsmStatus-update work properly * added some try-blocks around file-io to prevent IO-timeouts killing * main-thread * added battery-notification * update to BatteryWindow to reduce resource-usage when BatteryWindow inactive * extended BatteryIcon to show more battery-status in a window and setup * chargingMode (100, 500, 1000mA) * added BrightnessIcon and corrected some threading-related stuff * hold the aux button for more than 2 seconds to enable/disable keyboard * extended GSM-Icon to show network-status * (un)registered * provider * signal-strength * cellid * for tooltip and notification * made notification optional - when python-pynotify is installed * keyboard icon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Sebastian Ohl wrote: after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. I'll install it as soon as I can. You are a hero. One of them. :-) Paul -- The key to change . . . is to let go of fear. -Rosanne Cash http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking
Stefan Monnier wrote: That's probably not right. You probably want to try allow-hotplug ubs0 instead. auto means to do it at boot time and it may just fail if (for some reason) the usb0 interface is not yet created. Stefan I could confirm this. It doesn't work with auto usb0 with allow-hotplug usb0 it works just fine. Every time I plug the Freerunner in my debian etch it brings the interface up. I use the version from the wiki with a extra freerunner script. My entry in /etc/network/interfaces: #freerunner allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop Someone should correct the wiki, should I? Cheers, Joe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
On Thursday 16 October 2008 11:15:59 W.Kenworthy wrote: A phone that works: reliably make and receive calls reliably make and receive sms's I absolutely agree. I think this is the most important now. Thanks, ßingen. -- ßingen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A new open source hardware: TV-B-Gone
Along this note check out the http://lirc.org/ And you can buy a usb transciever here http://iguanaworks.net/products.psp On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:05 AM, VirtuAlex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sébastien Lorquet wrote: (should be posting this to hardware, but not sure of how much people are reading it :) ) the inventor of TV-B-Gone decided to opensource his greatest invention: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/11/patentbgone_inventor_mitc.html nice move :) PS: can we have IRDA on GTA0n? :) I saw it for quite a some time on http://www.ladyada.net/make/tvbgone/ http://www.ladyada.net/make/tvbgone/ along with minty boost charger. It seems to be of limited usefulness as a stand alone device, but turning FR into universal remote control is indeed a nice idea. By the way would it turn off arrivals/departures monitors in an airport? And if so, would it count as an act of terrorism? ;) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-new-open-source-hardware%3A-TV-B-Gone-tp1459956p1460133.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 05.11.2008, 21:47 +0100 schrieb Fox Mulder: * added new 'icon' for button-handling: * aux: * on short press: keyboard-toggle * on longer press (2 sec) window (for now only with close-button) opens * power: * on short press: for now nothing happens * on longer press (2 sec) window with buttons opens: * suspend (functional) * shutdown (for now non-functional) * close (closes window) This is a really nice feature but it collides with the zhone power button behaviour. When i run zhone and press the power button for 2s my fr goes into suspend just a tick after it displays your new menu. After i resume it still shows your menu and goes into suspend a second time. After i shortly press power again it resumes and stays on while still showing your menu. Don't know why it goes into suspend again after the first resume. So maybe it would be good to show your suspend/shutdown window after a short press and not a 2s press? For this button there is no problem with accidential pressing so i think we need no time delay. This will go away once milestone4 is out, as then zhone will suspend upon a very short press, but not after a longer press. One could argue that zhone should not do suspend at all if openmoko-panel-plugin is installed. We could do that in Debian as a specific change if it is wanted Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. the panel-plugin is a little peace of software to show and modify you the state of the hardware in you freerunner(i.e. gsm, gps ...). it should work with any gtk based windowmanager (i.e. xfce). Thanks, this looks good and appears to be more reliable than the previous version. Here are some comments: - you probably intend to add more config options, but currently most/all tabs only contain an enable/disable button. That would be better served with a single power tab which collects the enable/disable buttons for every device. - The GPS off icon doesn't use the read slashed circle contrary to all others. - The tooltips seems to only say on or off, so they really are useless (if not harmful) since that info is already given by the icon. So most of those tootips should be removed, or replaced with something useful (e.g. wifi network to which we're connected, whether we're connected to the internet, status of the battery, number of GPS satellites in view, ...). * power: * on short press: for now nothing happens * on longer press (2 sec) window with buttons opens: * suspend (functional) * shutdown (for now non-functional) * close (closes window) This is a really nice feature but it collides with the zhone power button behaviour. When i run zhone and press the power button for 2s my Indeed, I see exactly the problems you describe. This said I don't like zhone's power button, so I'd be happy to disable that one. openmoko-panel-plugin is a lot better, tho I still think the power button should mostly be bound to a form of lock. I.e. it could put you in a lock mode where you can take several actions, one of which being unlock, others being shutdown or suspend (and the suspend should be performed by default after 30s). I.e. basically make your menu a bit more difficult to use so it can double as a lock, rename close to unlock, and add a timeout that makes it suspend. Stefan whose FR always wakes back up after a few seconds of suspend ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin, Am 05.11.2008 um 22:51 schrieb Joachim Breitner: This will go away once milestone4 is out, as then zhone will suspend upon a very short press, but not after a longer press. One could argue that zhone should not do suspend at all if openmoko-panel-plugin is installed. We could do that in Debian as a specific change if it is wanted Greetings, Joachim for one of the next versions i am planning to make it configureable what happens on short/long power-button-press - - if the power-window opens on short or long power-button-press or - some sort of shortcut on short press .. i also like the idea to be able to set zhone to not suspend on power- button so someone else (like our panel-plugin) would be able to react instead .. just some config-switch or so .. you know ;) ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD4DBQFJEhgqr81gVylJyzERAoNqAKCM1wlTb06IdIZ+gT4H0kEvq69aWwCYo+Vt EsrI0mPkGuMwNjuyknProQ== =KkVn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.11.2008 um 23:02 schrieb Stefan Monnier: Thanks, this looks good and appears to be more reliable than the previous version. Here are some comments: - you probably intend to add more config options, but currently most/all tabs only contain an enable/disable button. That would be better served with a single power tab which collects the enable/disable buttons for every device. in actual version in our devel-repo there are more options on each tab .. and i have a lot more in mind ;) - The GPS off icon doesn't use the read slashed circle contrary to all others. i just had no good ideas for new icons for the others yet .. - The tooltips seems to only say on or off, so they really are useless (if not harmful) since that info is already given by the icon. So most of those tootips should be removed, or replaced with something useful (e.g. wifi network to which we're connected, whether we're connected to the internet, status of the battery, number of GPS satellites in view, ...). a lot is in my planning-queue right now .. Indeed, I see exactly the problems you describe. This said I don't like zhone's power button, so I'd be happy to disable that one. in one of the next versions our behaviour on power-button would get configureable openmoko-panel-plugin is a lot better, tho I still think the power button should mostly be bound to a form of lock. I.e. it could put you in a lock mode where you can take several actions, one of which being unlock, others being shutdown or suspend (and the suspend should be performed by default after 30s). I.e. basically make your menu a bit more difficult to use so it can double as a lock, rename close to unlock, and add a timeout that makes it suspend. i also would like to be able to un-/lock screen with power-button .. but actually i don't know how to disable touch so it doesn't emmit events .. anyone some ideas ? Stefan whose FR always wakes back up after a few seconds of suspend ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJEh1Pr81gVylJyzERAtdEAJ9u/39QbJjK6jOLno4ScfcRBUdlmACgr3s8 0JixA7PDCkI1hHzohlklCO4= =4BfH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SIM and bug #666
Hello! I am still trying to get freerunner to work with the SIM I have (before I try to replace it at my GSM provider - Simobil). The funny thing is that the SIM is exactly the same as O2 shown on the page as working SIM. Here is a thought. Has anybody played with the duct tape to model working SIM with the one that doesn't work? Boštjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
CenterIM is ported to Freerunner
Centerim[1] is instant message center and it works on freerunner very well. package: http://www.opkg.org/package_32.html full info: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/centerim/ It is terminal based, you can't use mouse. It can handle many IM-protocals and irc, rss feeds... Tested with fdom and xterm/openmoko-terminal2. Uses mplayer to play wav-sounds (can be changed) Uses dillo to open urls (can be changed. can check if there are dillo or midori or minimo and then uses one) I tuned colors and keybindings for freerunner. If you invent something let me know. [1]http://www.centerim.org/ -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
2008/11/5 Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks, after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. Thank you for working on this, it's really useful! * new battery-icons I'm not sure I like the new icon better, but I definitely like the better information about the battery state. Is it a known problem with the Debian kernel that you only get 100mA charge after booting up - until you unplug and replug the USB lead? * enabled shutdown-button in power-button-window I'm not seeing this. Where should I be looking? * added config-area for selection of active icons What is the difference between enabled on the panel-plugin tab and enabled on each individual button page? * some more gsmIcon updates: * corrected dbus-callback-function-header * added location area code (if available from dbus) My GSM icon is indicating off, even after I got notification windows correctly indicating my provider (T-Mobile) and a reasonable-sounding signal strength... * now choosing right icon for gsm turned off * corrections to gsmStatus-update work properly * added some try-blocks around file-io to prevent IO-timeouts killing * main-thread Aha, is that what caused the GSM icon to disappear sometimes in the previous version? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.11.2008 um 23:53 schrieb Neil Jerram: 2008/11/5 Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks, after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. Thank you for working on this, it's really useful! * new battery-icons I'm not sure I like the new icon better, but I definitely like the better information about the battery state. if you have better ones or like to create better ones .. just send them to me ;) i created these because IMHO the older ones had not enough contrast Is it a known problem with the Debian kernel that you only get 100mA charge after booting up - until you unplug and replug the USB lead? i for now don't know of any issues with the debian kernel .. but sometimes it takes some seconds until it updates .. * enabled shutdown-button in power-button-window I'm not seeing this. Where should I be looking? press power-button 2s and you should see .. * added config-area for selection of active icons What is the difference between enabled on the panel-plugin tab and enabled on each individual button page? in the panel-plugin tab the background of the icon is dis-/enabled and in the indidual tabs only visibility of the icon is dis-/enabled * some more gsmIcon updates: * corrected dbus-callback-function-header * added location area code (if available from dbus) My GSM icon is indicating off, even after I got notification windows correctly indicating my provider (T-Mobile) and a reasonable-sounding signal strength... hmmm .. i 've never seen such behaviour .. could you start openmoko- panel-pluign via (ssh-)console and have a look if there is some output? * now choosing right icon for gsm turned off * corrections to gsmStatus-update work properly * added some try-blocks around file-io to prevent IO-timeouts killing * main-thread Aha, is that what caused the GSM icon to disappear sometimes in the previous version? Regards, Neil ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJEiftr81gVylJyzERAi++AKCNDwLZ4OhrH++iEOEM6PN60iNsxgCgoQLa 8vQ/ART1NsALTJPO8nNx4/M= =k/4O -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: - It's so much slower This is under discussion in upstream. Meanwhile I dropped physics iteration rate (like older fr-np version did). FIXED Yeah... Now it works better. There are still some slowdowns, but it's generally good. - The virtual keyboard is very hard to use. I added some click-threshold. (Now it is same than used with hildon) FIXED I've to say that not always it seems to take the right command, but it works. I'd suggest it to put it by default on bottom left corner (I move it there and it never breaks my drawings). Thanks for your work! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking
Also double check to make sure your LAN ip address isn't in the 192.168.0.* range. I've wasted too much time making that mistake. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-Networking-tp1461467p1463175.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:42:33 -0800 (PST), abatrour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also double check to make sure your LAN ip address isn't in the 192.168.0.* range. I've wasted too much time making that mistake. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-Networking-tp1461467p1463175.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Which is why my desktops (home and work) are set to use 192.168.0.201/30, and the FreeRunner is set to 192.168.0.202/30. (on first SSH after flash I change the FR settings for subnet, gateway and DNS) Better would be to go entirely 'elsewhere' within private IP address blocks, like 10.20.30.1/24 or something, but since the default IP on a FreeRunner after flashing is always 192.168.0.202/24, I gave ground and kept it there, just narrowed the subnet to /30 (two usable IPs, 192.168.0.201-202) so that only 102.168.0.200-203 are unworkable on my LAN. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM Testing: task-openmoko-qtopia-x11 has unsatisfied gstreamer depencies
Hi Martin, Just checked the image build log today, not seeing the gstreamer issue. This issue should be resolved. Best Regards. Ray Chao Openmoko System Admin. Martin Benz wrote: Hello Wendy I'm used to bug trackers, using Linux as OS i try to give something back even if i don't have programming skills. :) Actually i don't think it's a bug, 20081104 gives me now: Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-openmoko-qtopia-x11: * qtopia-phone-x11-media-gstreamer * If i find some time tomorrow i'll check the daily build again a open a ticket if the problem still exists. Cheers, Martin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
2008/11/4 Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Numptyphysics, this great physics drawing game, is reborn! (http://www.opkg.org/package_3.html) this appears t point to a package called centerim, not numptphysics ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] SIM pin entry
Anders Kristiansen wrote: Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I guess it works for them.. But I get the same error :( Same here, the PIN is always incorrect. How can i disable the SIM PIN security? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] SIM pin entry
Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: Anders Kristiansen wrote: Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I guess it works for them.. But I get the same error :( Same here, the PIN is always incorrect. How can i disable the SIM PIN security? To reply to my own post. It's possible to disable the pin security by doing so on another phone. After that Android doesnt ask for a pin entry anymore and making calls is possible, but i wasnt able to answer any calls. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/4 Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Numptyphysics, this great physics drawing game, is reborn! (http://www.opkg.org/package_3.html) this appears t point to a package called centerim, not numptphysics Right. I downloaded Aapos numpty-package from http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/numptyphysics/ and uploaded it to opkg.org so this is now FIXED ps. try centerim, it's nice too :9 r | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
