Re: [Illume/Debian] How to customize Illume?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:24:04AM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:27:56 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org babbled: If you want to revert, it'll be also quite easy, just remove your local version from ~/.enlightenment/data/themes actually ~/.e/e/themes - but yes. right idea :) Ooops, silly me! :) -- Kallisti! Today is Sweetmorn, the 59th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Depending on the feature set that can cut both ways. It could also be a case of I was going to wait for gta03, but I absolutely can't have a phone with a camera so I may as well get gta02 now for example. A must have for one person can be a deal breaker for another. I pick the camera as an example as I used to work on a site where cameras weren't allowed, but keypads and screen resolution have polarised opinions before too. Hi! I'm interesting only in two things: - camera (I assume yes, because of the camera interface of cpu; would be rather dumb not using it) - better case design (the current one is not even in the league with other phones;-|) For case design, I find these (among others) great: - http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 - http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png - iphone In short: not make anything as stupid as a lanyard hole. I hope these features will be untouched: - vga screen - touchscreen - wifi - gps - usb host - sd card I expect these bugfixes: - better rfi design (no echo/buzz and ugly workarounds around them) - better audio quality - no glamo - better battery management (change the current PCF50633 PMU unit) - better 2D performance (should be achievable with the new samsung s3c6410 cpu) - better SD handling (straightforward, if you remove the glamo) For me the release date is not important. I can wait one year without buying a freerunner, if it takes 1-2 year I will consider freerunner as an option, but likely I will buy an another phone. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com wrote: Hey guys, fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. Swet, this made my day :) -fredrik- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
I have a V5 unit and would be interested in getting a full upgrade if I sent it off to get the soldering done. Not sure if you wanted people to respond to that question, or you were just thinking aloud... -Dan Staley From: Joel Newkirk [freerun...@newkirk.us] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:33 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:11 -0800, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, any update on this? Still waiting for an answer from OM. (I posted a question in this thread Friday regarding Tanatalum instead of Ceramic cap - the difference being $0.25 vs $2 each in qty 100, and my radio guy thinks Tant is a good choice for filtering, but waiting for word from Steve or Jeorg) Boss said he's willing to do the jobs, but we have no caps, can't order until we know which ones to order. We're also hoping to find out what help them/reward them involves. (IE, OM provide parts? OM underwrite repair? Cover part of repair? Send me a Christmas card? :) Boss ballparked the job at $25 but nothing definite yet. (depends in part on parts) The only concern they had when I showed them the pdf and my FreeRunner was regarding damaging the housing while soldering - at which point I demonstrated removing the board from the FR with about 30 seconds effort and they said ooh OK then. :) I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. I know of the cap on the uSD pins fix for the GPS vs uSD issue (though not the identity of that capacitor), I don't know what change allows a V6 to run without battery or if other differences exist. Dropping a cap on the two pins of the uSD socket is pretty trivial if you're already doing SMD work, so if we're already performing the Big-C rework I'd guess (pure personal speculation) that we could add the cap to the SD lines for little more expense and time. j On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: I'm going to talk to the guys at work tomorrow and show them the rework PDF - we are equipped to make this fix, could probably offer it inexpensively to those nearby (southeastern North Carolina) or those willing to ship. (among other things - like security systems and internet services - we repair handheld radios and wireless broadband networking gear, including replacing BGAs and more mundane SMD components) I'm betting we have the resistors on hand, would probably need to order a hundred or so of the caps. I'll post back here if the answer is positive. We're located in Hamlet NC, near Ft Bragg, but we're gearing up to offer repairs nationwide for specific wireless networking gear, so shipping and processing of customer repair items in/out is forthcoming anyway, this is just a different board with a much simpler fix to be performed, I'm just not sure they'll be interested in offering it as inexpensively as I'd like. j On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:29:32 -0800, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise your hand, drop me a mail. st...@openmoko.com Sargun Dhillon wrote: Very cool. Now, all the hardware hackers out there who want to make a buck to fix our Free runners, raise your hands. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Probably best to send the requests directly to Joerg. Vasco Névoa wrote: I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf Please have a look and report on any mistakes or things that need improvement. Thanks jOERG Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/12/10 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: The DRAFT fix for the buzz problem is here: CP of joerg's mail. http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT!!__.pdf I'm getting 404 for this URL. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list
Re: WSOD
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | For the WSOD, I recommand you to use the SHR distribution. | | I had the same problem for a few month, killing any usuability of the | phone, but since SHR have resolved it, it's far more enjoyable to use | the phone. Nicolas Dufresne resolved it with a couple of patches that are in our current stable and andy-tracking kernels now. So the solution is independent of the distro used. i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in stable soon. reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in stable. so i excitedly installed the shr distro since someone else in the thread mentioned it as a good wsod avoidance choice. i installed a rootfs dated 12/16 and a uimage dated 12/14. well, much to my dismay, i just got a wsod again. so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a regular basis. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit city search ?
Hi, has someone an example of searching a city and a street that works with the germany map when it was downloaded from the quicklink as of the page here lists: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps ? Or why can I only enter capital letters, but on bookmarks also non capital letters ? Or is there any description how the internal GUI (for FR) should behave if it works (some screenshots) ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QTExtended] duplicated sms
Hi to all, i have the same problem of several people: in qtextended 4.4.2 the messages are duplicated for some reason. I know this is a common issue, should i use some particular jffs or kernel? there is a workaround? thanks -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
let me preface this with thanking andy, all the devs and om for all the hard work. i'm really excited about om and their free your phone ideas. i am happy to support this effort by buying a phone that isn't 100%. that said, there are some things that irritate me... On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it | is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in | stable soon. reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in Nicolas' patches went in to our stable kernel 12 days ago, but when the various distros update to that, or if they want to use some different kernel tree is up to them. do any of them document this? i can't for the life of me figure out which kernel each distro is using. why can't i just install what i want and then opkg upgrade to the latest? how dependent are the distros on the kernel? can i install a kernel from here and a rootfs (distro) from there? if so, where are the blessed kernels? | so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. | which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy | tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most | of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. | | this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a | regular basis. The kernel packages in testing repository have the workaround: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ ok, thanks for the link but that is a list of packages. how do i get a phone with that on it? if i install om2008.9, does that get me there? do i need to opkg update/upgrade? do i need to modify my opk config first? if so, how? as i said above, i'm content to own a brick due to the fact that i want to support this effort but i'd still rather have a working phone; however, i just can't seem to get there. things are just too splintered. i can't figure out what bits to put together in order to get a working phone with my particular annoyance fixed. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: I don't know what the physical difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power without battery) It's a bigger C1767 - according to the schematics it's 4.7uF on A5, 47uF on A6 and 100uF on A7. Werner's writeup of the investigations is here: http://people.openmoko.org/werner/gta02-chg/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Any distro?] Funny, very old SIM card not detected
ah... forgot the list... On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:35:26 +0100 Abelenda diego.abele...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:03:35 -0800 Dima Kogan dko...@cds.caltech.edu wrote: What's the model of the SIM card? I've had an issue where an old SIM card would only register after a few minutes, and some distros had a bug where they'd get confused if the registration didn't happen early enough. Qtopia would register fine, but Android and anything using FSO would not. See http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/255 Any info on how I do get the model of SIM? The only thing written on it is the serial number (this is an orange (CH)). Anyway I don't understand what you mean by register time, is it the time the SIM takes to associate to an antenna ? the time the SIM take to verify the PIN ? This is not in question here, my PIN isn't even asked by most distros... And it takes less than a minute between the moment the pin is asked and the moment the signal strength is displayed (by Om2008.9) (no mesurements here ^^). Ah I forgot to say I didn't update the firmware of the calypso, because #1024 has no reason to affect me and I don't think that a command that is more recent than the SIM will change anything here... signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to make a beep in C++/Qt
Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 16:27:43 schrieb Sargun Dhillon: Please don't send HTML e-mail to list. I'm sorry it's default at kmail. I hope it's turned off now. Just add a sound with an annoying enough beep and use the proper FSO calls to play it. I think it's too much to create a dbus connection just for making a beep. Any other idea? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 05:00:30PM +0100, Ed Kapitein wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 16:12 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: Evgeny Karyakin wrote: Dunno... First link propose a case suggesting iPhone look, I think we shouldn't follow everything Apple come out with, and I second to pill case. When I first saw GTA02 look, I thought it's ugly, but that was just because it's unusual; now I like it and like a bottom hole around antenna. The hole is important. You can tie the phone to a string. And it is easier for the do-it-yourselfers to make brackets for car/bicycle use. Now that openvibe is out, perhaps we should put an orange warning label on the back of the freerunner, for the intended use of the hole ;-) That would shine a light on the what is a small... definition! Orange label: WARNING: if it fits, it IS small! :) Rui -- Hail Eris, Hack GNU/Linux! Today is Sweetmorn, the 59th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] GPRS Problems LCP TermReq
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got a problem with a GPRS connection to one of the operators here. Vodafone works great but my O2 connection logs and gives me CHAP authentication succeeded. Further on in the handshaking the network sends me a LCP TermReq Does anybody here have any idea what the problem might be. I thought that when CHAP was happy we were flying. I've included the log from CHAP success to termination. The FATAL error messages do not appear to be a problem as they also appear in the vodafone log which does work, by the way. Everything else is as it appears in a vodafone log except for the terminate request of course ;-) Thanks in advance for any guidance. daemon.debug pppd[1375]: rcvd [CHAP Success id=0x1 ] daemon.info pppd[1375]: CHAP authentication succeeded daemon.notice modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko): No such device user.info kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered daemon.notice modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko): No such device daemon.notice modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko): No such device daemon.debug pppd[1375]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 deflate 15 deflate(old#) 15] daemon.debug pppd[1375]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 0.0.0.0 ms-dns1 0.0.0.0 ms-dns3 0.0.0.0] daemon.debug pppd[1375]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x1 80 fd 01 01 00 0c 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00] daemon.debug pppd[1375]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x1 0b 21] daemon.info pppd[1375]: LCP terminated by peer (^K!) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSQMOXlbjSJ5n4BARAo5oAJ0b4yhuG6TH+8He8bkFod4AoQKRuwCghZdr zvsNRZMgxn59YQhOTi+y7XU= =WSyp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
2008/12/17 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything clear yet. Neil Hi, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_find_out_what_version_of_hardware_I_have.3F Cheers, Mateusz -- AKA f3nix AKA metyl AKA skowri ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
after my last email, i went looking around the wiki and found this section: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images#The_bleeding_edge:_Om_.22base_.2F_empty.22_images which talks about testing images and so i downloaded and flashed the following: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? thanks, -peter On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Peter Abplanalp pta-openm...@psaconsultants.com wrote: let me preface this with thanking andy, all the devs and om for all the hard work. i'm really excited about om and their free your phone ideas. i am happy to support this effort by buying a phone that isn't 100%. that said, there are some things that irritate me... On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it | is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in | stable soon. reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in Nicolas' patches went in to our stable kernel 12 days ago, but when the various distros update to that, or if they want to use some different kernel tree is up to them. do any of them document this? i can't for the life of me figure out which kernel each distro is using. why can't i just install what i want and then opkg upgrade to the latest? how dependent are the distros on the kernel? can i install a kernel from here and a rootfs (distro) from there? if so, where are the blessed kernels? | so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. | which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy | tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most | of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. | | this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a | regular basis. The kernel packages in testing repository have the workaround: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ ok, thanks for the link but that is a list of packages. how do i get a phone with that on it? if i install om2008.9, does that get me there? do i need to opkg update/upgrade? do i need to modify my opk config first? if so, how? as i said above, i'm content to own a brick due to the fact that i want to support this effort but i'd still rather have a working phone; however, i just can't seem to get there. things are just too splintered. i can't figure out what bits to put together in order to get a working phone with my particular annoyance fixed. thanks, -peter -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTExtended] duplicated sms
So..is there nothing to do in order to resolve this problem? - Original Message - From: drac2000 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [QTExtended] duplicated sms Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:17:02 -0800 (PST) Giorgio Marci wrote: Hi to all, i have the same problem of several people: in qtextended 4.4.2 the messages are duplicated for some reason. For me not only messages, but incoming phone calls also I think the issue of ghost incoming calls is still here :-( even with using hypnotize image) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QTExtended--duplicated-sms-tp1668670p1668820.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Marcus Bauer wrote: * GPS works out of the box It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) Is the GPS+SD card problem solved yet? That was solved a long time ago. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit city search ?
Yes, I have found it too. If someone has interest, I am currently create an XSLT template to extract the relevant data of villages / cities and streets with their lon / lat coordinates. If I have it I try to setup a database to be a possible base for searching :-) Lothar Am 17.12.2008 um 17:51 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, has someone an example of searching a city and a street that works with the germany map when it was downloaded from the quicklink as of the page here lists: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps ? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps#Search_doesn.27t_work_in_most_countries and following... -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Any distro?] Funny, very old SIM card not detected
What's the model of the SIM card? I've had an issue where an old SIM card would only register after a few minutes, and some distros had a bug where they'd get confused if the registration didn't happen early enough. Qtopia would register fine, but Android and anything using FSO would not. See http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/255 On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:57:26 +0100 Abelenda diego.abele...@gmail.com wrote: I came across a really funny thing when trying to get rid of the WSOD. First a little explaining about what I know about my problem: android rootfs doesn't detect my sim card (a card that is more than 3 years old), the thing is that the official releases of Om (including the testing ones) detect the sim... but any other distro fails... well in the case of Android, this is more than simply not detecting it, there are 3 cases with equal probability. 1. doesn't tell anything about a sim card 2. doesn't ask me for my pin and says there is no service 3. asks my pin but doesn't try to unlock the sim and asks me my pin immediately after saying failed (I can do it any number of times and it will not lock my sim) others distro doesn't do anything. Well Om200.9-testing 20081216 works for me, I can use my freerunner as a daily phone with it, so I let this matter for later, but just now I flashed andy-tracking kernel (the binary on his storage, to get rid of the WSOD) and Om2008.9-testing doesn't asks me for my pin anymore so where is my question(s) is it normal due to the /sys changes? is it a kernel bug ? (shouldn't as the calypso is connected via serial port there shouldn't be any kernel related problem, except a serial related bug, that should not have been overlooked for so long...). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:47:09PM +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:15:21 + Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com: Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. Sounds cool! So, given that I already have Debian on SD, could I just - add your repository to /etc/apt/sources.list - sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install the-hackable-umbrella-package ? If not now, is that a feasible aim for the near future? Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package, most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can update directly from debian. Hi Marcus, xserver-xorg or xserver-nodm? Rui ps: didn't find you the next day at SAPO CodeBits, oh well... hope you enjoyed your stay in Portugal :) -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Sweetmorn, the 59th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Black SOD for a change
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Okay; two Freerunner units, one restores semi-okay, one's screen | typically goes all black after an otherwise successful restore (not | before showing the appropriate display for a moment though), doesn't I wouldn't assume this is a kernel issue, but if you think it might be, you should try andy-tracking kernel from git or here: http://people.openmoko.org/andy and see if it changes the behaviour. The suspend and resume action is very different in these 2.6.28 kernels. Andy, where do I get modules for this kernel? My phone doesn't wake up from suspend. Can that happen because there are no modules installed for 2.6.28 on the rootfs? Tysiace zabawnych wierszyków.Dodaj swoj Sprawdz http://link.interia.pl/f1fcd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
2008/12/17 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: For case design, I find these (among others) great: - http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 - http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png - iphone Dunno... First link propose a case suggesting iPhone look, I think we shouldn't follow everything Apple come out with, and I second to pill case. When I first saw GTA02 look, I thought it's ugly, but that was just because it's unusual; now I like it and like a bottom hole around antenna. With relation to Raster's case, if you're going to get sliding number keyboard, we just enter a troublesome field of hardware modification difficulties as infamous buzz/echo problem has proved us: * It's a moving part and can be broken. * Software developers will enforce heavier requirement on users to use keyboard; programs can become more difficult to use without it. * Localization issues. Hopefully Openmoko (phones) will be wide-spread across the world, but will Openmoko (company) be able to make several lingual versions of keyboard? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
Hey guys, fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. What is hackable:1 ? Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. The important part is that hackable:1 is not only open to community contributions but we are actively encouraging them and we do the full development in public on IRC channels and mailing lists - no decisions behind closed doors, no sudden changes of directions. We want to produce a stable, linearly evoluting platform. Hackable:1 is running from 2GB SD cards simply because they have become so cheap that there is little reason to fiddle with the restrictions of the limited space of the built-in flash. Therefore we can ship with a full set of development tools ready installed to get you started with mobile development in minutes. No more need to wait 20 hours until Openembedded is finished with its set up. No more need for flashing - but we will also soon provide a flash image for those of you who need the space on the SD card for other things. We have a full LAMP stack too, for those countless of you out there who are more proficient with PHP than C or C++. Not to forget that you can make phone calls and send SMS... And you can even print. Get yourself a USB gender changer and connect your printer to the Neo. It works - beat that all you iPhonies out there! (A gender changer is just a few dollars on ebay). Then what have we done so far? == Some of the highlights: * we packaged OM2007.2 as .deb packages: dialer, sms, contacts, neod, phone-kit, gsmd, matchbox, panel applets * we improved sound quality (fixes for gsmd for echo cancellation) * another fix for gsmd to suppress the reregistering of some phones (OM bug #1024) * extended the aux and power menus. For example you can now easily switch between USB host and device mode or connect to a bluetooth keyboard * a simple onscreen keyboard with all hacker characters on a short press on the AUX button * GPS works out of the box * switch on and off accelerometer-based autorotate * fixed matchbox-windowmanager crash-bug * if sms send fails there is now an error dialog * many GPRS providers preconfigured for easy use * matchbox-stroke is included (it is fun!) * preconfigured for GSM multiplexing, i.e. having calls and sms coming in during a GPRS session (not activated by default) * x2x works out of the box (using your desktop mouse and keyboard on the Neo) * that battery applet shows plenty of battery info now (you need to install the notification-daemon first) Where do we want to go? === First of all: we want to make it a community distribution implementing (with some freedom) the GNOME Mobile stack. Thus come and join us on our mailing lists, on IRC #hackable1 on freenode, file bug reports for enhancements and start to hack yourself. If you have eyes that can distinguish between more than black, white and orange, and you have graphical skills, we will be happy for your help to add colors to the theme! In general we intend to work closely together with other open source projects, most notably DebianOnFreerunner where remarkable work has been done already. How do you install it? == It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) and a card reader for your PC / Laptop. You just have to partition and format the SD card and then simply untar the tarball onto it. Five minutes and you are done, no lengthy installation process or flashing. Your flash even remains untouched, so you can easily give it a test run. About Bearstech === Bearstech is a French FLOSS innovation engineering company. Bearstech is also the French distributor of Openmoko products and supporting the efforts of hackable:1 with infrastructure and developers. You can find everything and involve yourself in: http://www.hackable1.org The download is at: http://www.hackable1.org/hackable1/?C=M;O=D The installation guide is at: http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Documentation -- The hackable:1 developer team -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Hmm, using the clock to wake me up in the morning would be an option to check the battery. It even wakes up, or boots, if I have shut down the phone :-) If the clock is not at a really alarm time (to wake me up :-), it could configure the next wakeup to check the battery. Is that a solution if PMU doesn't support us with another solution ? Lothar Am 17.12.2008 um 13:35 schrieb William Kenworthy: Doesnt it already do that - I know that in the middle of the night I used to get regularly awakened by a sht sound from the Fr as the battery ran out - oh wait, you mean before ... :) Its actually a good idea - I use a couple of perl scripts to flash the leds in various colours/rates to indicate charge. Doesnt help when shut down though. Perhaps a cron job to wake every hour and check the charge, then go back to sleep? Does cron work on the FR these days? BillK On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:16 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU stuff well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Any distro?] Funny, very old SIM card not detected
I came across a really funny thing when trying to get rid of the WSOD. First a little explaining about what I know about my problem: android rootfs doesn't detect my sim card (a card that is more than 3 years old), the thing is that the official releases of Om (including the testing ones) detect the sim... but any other distro fails... well in the case of Android, this is more than simply not detecting it, there are 3 cases with equal probability. 1. doesn't tell anything about a sim card 2. doesn't ask me for my pin and says there is no service 3. asks my pin but doesn't try to unlock the sim and asks me my pin immediately after saying failed (I can do it any number of times and it will not lock my sim) others distro doesn't do anything. Well Om200.9-testing 20081216 works for me, I can use my freerunner as a daily phone with it, so I let this matter for later, but just now I flashed andy-tracking kernel (the binary on his storage, to get rid of the WSOD) and Om2008.9-testing doesn't asks me for my pin anymore so where is my question(s) is it normal due to the /sys changes? is it a kernel bug ? (shouldn't as the calypso is connected via serial port there shouldn't be any kernel related problem, except a serial related bug, that should not have been overlooked for so long...). signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Evgeny Karyakin wrote: Dunno... First link propose a case suggesting iPhone look, I think we shouldn't follow everything Apple come out with, and I second to pill case. When I first saw GTA02 look, I thought it's ugly, but that was just because it's unusual; now I like it and like a bottom hole around antenna. The hole is important. You can tie the phone to a string. And it is easier for the do-it-yourselfers to make brackets for car/bicycle use. Furthermore, the hole has become, in my opinion, a symbol of the phone. A powerful image. I think it could be powered as a distinctive trait in marketing. [About keyboard] All that you said makes a lot of sense to me. Also, I haven't missed a physical keyboard on the freerunner, if anyone cares. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to make a beep in C++/Qt
Please don't send HTML e-mail to list. Just add a sound with an annoying enough beep and use the proper FSO calls to play it. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, how can I make a simple beep in C++/Qt? neither the Ascii commands printf(\a) or cout \a nor the Qt command QApplication::beep () seem to work. Do I have to change the volume settings for that? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] How to make a beep in C++/Qt
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Michael Tansella wrote: Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 16:27:43 schrieb Sargun Dhillon: Please don't send HTML e-mail to list. I'm sorry it's default at kmail. I hope it's turned off now. Just add a sound with an annoying enough beep and use the proper FSO calls to play it. I think it's too much to create a dbus connection just for making a beep. If you're interested in the beep going through a particular output, say the speaker rather than the earpiece, you'll be wanting to use the FSO interface for manipulating the alsa state too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:27:19 -0500 (EST) Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Marcus Bauer wrote: * GPS works out of the box It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) Is the GPS+SD card problem solved yet? Yes, the fix is in the kernel switching of the SD clock when the card is idle. I got a fix under rainy sky in the city in 3 minutes. Marcus Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit city search ?
Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, has someone an example of searching a city and a street that works with the germany map when it was downloaded from the quicklink as of the page here lists: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps ? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps#Search_doesn.27t_work_in_most_countries and following... -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:56:46 +, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything clear yet. Neil Take out the battery, SIM and uSD. Where the contacts for the uSD meet the PC board there will be a SMD capacitor (about .5x1mm) between two of the contacts, _IF_ it's newer than V5. I don't know what the physical difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power without battery) You can also look at the datecode on the serial/imei sticker under the battery, but I don't know the exact cutoff date. I know that datecodes from June are V5 and from August are V6. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package, most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can update directly from debian. Thanks, that will be fantastic. Debian is already wonderfully hackable, but not so good on the use-as-a-phone front, so it sounds like Debian+your hackable will be just the ticket. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: That would shine a light on the what is a small... definition! Orange label: WARNING: if it fits, it IS small! :) Maybe we should 3nl4rge the hole. There's pills for that on the internet (and all over my INBOX). -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
Il 17/12/2008 11:19, Tilman Baumann ha scritto: Name a application that you would have expected to be made by the the community first but not has been delivered yet? (Something quirky but obvious or just in dire need) Where do you think has the community let you down? Name a aerea where you would have expected more community thrust but has failed. Where do you think could any person do the most for the project right now? Think of if that person would be ideal and have all the skills needed. And then, which skills are in most need right now and in the future? +1 : The first interessant questions I read in this tread ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Leonti, sorry I was a bit too ironical in my answer. So let me explain. Nikolaus Am 17.12.2008 um 15:24 schrieb Leonti Bielski: Nikolaus, I don't get what's wrong with my questions? Nothing is wrong with the questions. Only expecting precise answers from the project team before there is an official annoucement of a new device. That is what I allude to with my comments. I have no inside information but I know from other such projects that there is not really a decision being taken at a certain time that can be published before the first samples come out of the factory. It is always possible in such projects to have late changes and revise some previously done decisions. E.g. making the device a little larger. Removing a camera because the supplier can't deliver etc. For the GTA01 and 02 the OM hardware team has been more open - but they also had to discuss endlessly about changed decisions and slipping time schedules. This draws a lot of attention from the real project and does not help to make it faster. 1. About the case design - it was a poll on ML about different types of case - with keypad, without, slider, etc. So I think it make sense to ask what was finally chosen. It could also be that nothing has been choosen yet. Or several variants of which one will finally reach production. So what should OM officially say today? 2. GSM chip: Look in here how many chips were considered: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoForesight It makes sense to ask which one was chosen, doesn't it? Mickey has given a statement showing a clear preference. But until it has been purchased in quantities, shipped to the factory and prepared for production, it is not finally choosen. 3. GTA03 is internal codename, like GTA01 and GTA02, but they are called Neo1973 and Neo Freerunner. I seriously doubt GTA03 will go on sale with GTA03 name. Yes, I doubt as well. But fixing the brand name is not required until approx. 2 months before launch. If we assume (which can be completely wrong) that launch is in Summer - nothing could have been choosen at all. As said before, I don't know about their internal project plans and how good they achieved any milestones. 4 and 5, don't want even bother to comment this. There is no specific availability announced. And no price. So the only thing we can guess from the outside is that they will have a comparable price to other devices and devices will come when they are finished. Leonti Hello! As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes. I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it would be interesting to know something about next open phone. Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML. Does someone know how everything is going with gta03? 1. What case design is chosen? A good one. 2. What gsm chip? The best one! 3. How will it be called? GTA03! 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ? 12:00 (I don't know on which day) 5. Price estimate. Comparable to others. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Any distro?] Funny, very old SIM card not detected
Hi, could it be that this is an old 5V SIM card? If I'm not mistaken, those do not work with FR; only 3V and 1.8V (like in most recent phones). F. On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:04:36 +0100, Abelenda diego.abele...@gmail.com wrote: ah... forgot the list... On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:35:26 +0100 Abelenda diego.abele...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:03:35 -0800 Dima Kogan dko...@cds.caltech.edu wrote: What's the model of the SIM card? I've had an issue where an old SIM card would only register after a few minutes, and some distros had a bug where they'd get confused if the registration didn't happen early enough. Qtopia would register fine, but Android and anything using FSO would not. See http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/255 Any info on how I do get the model of SIM? The only thing written on it is the serial number (this is an orange (CH)). Anyway I don't understand what you mean by register time, is it the time the SIM takes to associate to an antenna ? the time the SIM take to verify the PIN ? This is not in question here, my PIN isn't even asked by most distros... And it takes less than a minute between the moment the pin is asked and the moment the signal strength is displayed (by Om2008.9) (no mesurements here ^^). Ah I forgot to say I didn't update the firmware of the calypso, because #1024 has no reason to affect me and I don't think that a command that is more recent than the SIM will change anything here... -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Doesnt it already do that - I know that in the middle of the night I used to get regularly awakened by a sht sound from the Fr as the battery ran out - oh wait, you mean before ... :) Its actually a good idea - I use a couple of perl scripts to flash the leds in various colours/rates to indicate charge. Doesnt help when shut down though. Perhaps a cron job to wake every hour and check the charge, then go back to sleep? Does cron work on the FR these days? BillK On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:16 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU stuff well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Timo Juhani Lindfors ha scritto: Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done It has passed quite a long time since I upgraded the bootloader, does the FR boots when the battery is totally down? I'had seen this thread that seemed to have addressed this issue: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002531.html ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Am 17.12.2008 um 13:16 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done this is a starting point :-) Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU stuff well. Is there any documentation for PMU ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
2008/12/17 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, I am asking me if it is not possible to get an acustic 'empty battery' warning some time before my phone really get's down. Is there a way to do this ? Qtopia 4.3.2 on FR does it, so I guess there must be a way. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin | | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk John, maybe you can clarify the situation with the other path (and maybe change it to have a git hash). - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklJWZ0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp0VQCfVxId2dAzx9XxgQfd7GnapaHW h0cAn1YOwxA34xbNLDgWNnwmpBBD9mdW =vqJO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
One stupid question: is this the first image that is linked? (not by alphabetical order, by line-number) Doesn't seem to be so. remote-diagnostics without additional info is quite thing would you dare to email a compressed (zip/tgz/ar/whatever) version of your working directory? ...maybe directly to the ml... shouldn't be such a big file since the asu theme doesn't use many pics I've sent it to you privately. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU stuff well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
macfuse and freerunner
Hello! Anybody managed to get Macfuse to work with freerunner? I can ssh to Freerunner from Mac OSX, but I'd like to mount directories over ssh. B. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Building
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Tuesday 16 December 2008 17:23:49 schrieb Arigead: My other question is that I built the kernel using toolchain [1] instructions and my bitbake fso-image also built the kernel. I assume that I can use the toolchain produced kernel and the bitbake produced filesystem. Can I tell Bitbake not to waste it's time building the kernel? Try adding ASSUME_PROVIDED += virtual/kernel or ASSUME_PROVIDED += linux-openmoko to your local.conf. If it goes through (might not work because of missing module packages), you will have missing modules in your rootfs though. (Nearby: A kernel build is quick... I would just let bitbake build it. You don't have to use it) Thanks for the advice I'll just let bitbake build it then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSQQnXlbjSJ5n4BARAqxgAJ9maLzVPYZf7bioAsnQi/fePnzvIwCdH9x8 BclFxqWiuyEBwhNRExUr9kw= =ENpM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
IMHO this is quite irrelevant. What the OM ecosystem needs is to go into a direction as shown by AppStore, Android Market etc. I.e. a full solution consisting of: a) Content (the open variant will be Wikipedia, Openstreetmap etc.) b) Application Store (that is what projects.openmoko.org should be turned into) c) compatible Devices with more and more stable hard software that can easily access this open content So if that is becoming available, the device itself and its roadmap isn't that important at all. Nikolaus Am 16.12.2008 um 20:08 schrieb Leonti Bielski: Hello! As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes. I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it would be interesting to know something about next open phone. Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML. Does someone know how everything is going with gta03? 1. What case design is chosen? A good one. 2. What gsm chip? The best one! 3. How will it be called? GTA03! 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ? 12:00 (I don't know on which day) 5. Price estimate. Comparable to others. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
2008/12/17 Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com: Meh, I actually like the pill design quite a bit! What's so wrong with the pill? Because the screen does not have a pill form? Imho the design should highlight the beautiful screen and not hide it, as the current one does. The surface should be flat, no frame around the screen, etc. It would be not a bad idea to advertise a design compatition, with a prize of an openmoko phone. There are some remarkable open source art communities and software (eg: blender.org) I can even imagine that the future phone will be sold in two different case design (the hardware spec would be the same), one design would be created by an internal openmoko designer, the other one would be this competition-winner design. I read somewhere, that openmoko want (in the future) sold multiple phone-variant, which is great. But multiple phone-variant not necessary means diverse hardware specification. Ok, enough of my wet dream... Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR not charging after 2 weeks of inactivity
Thanks a lot! :) El mié, 17-12-2008 a las 01:30 +, Al Johnson escribió: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/12/17 Diego Fernández Durán di...@goedi.net: The last two weeks I've been very busy and meanwhile I put the FR in a high shelve to avoid the distraction. Now, after two weeks my FR appears to be in a deep sleep. I can't turn it on. If I connect it to the charger it does nothing! look on the wiki, there's an answer to this problem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Diego Fernández Durán di...@goedi.net | http://www.goedi.net GPG : 925C 9A21 7A11 3B13 6E43 50DB F579 D119 90D2 66BB signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com: Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. Sounds cool! So, given that I already have Debian on SD, could I just - add your repository to /etc/apt/sources.list - sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install the-hackable-umbrella-package ? If not now, is that a feasible aim for the near future? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:15:21 + Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com: Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. Sounds cool! So, given that I already have Debian on SD, could I just - add your repository to /etc/apt/sources.list - sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install the-hackable-umbrella-package ? If not now, is that a feasible aim for the near future? Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package, most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can update directly from debian. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WSOD
Hi everyone! I have not been reading the lists lately, so I don't know if this is an old one. I have been suffering badly from WSOD. This means, often when I resumed from suspend the screen showed all white while other things still worked. Sometimes it recovered after some minutes and screen worked again, sometimes I waited for maybe 10 minutes then switched off the device. I had this problem since I got the device in July and I always thought this was a kernel problem. I tried about every kernel version so far but it was always the same. Now, GPS was not working on my device, so last week I finally returned it to my distributor and he sent me a new one. I am using the exact same kernel and distribution[1] that was giving my WSOD all the time on the old device (just like every kernel and distribution was given WSOD). But suspend/resume is now working flawlessly. No white screen ever! So this bug is highly hardware related after all? Replacing the hardware fixed it for me. Ole [1] http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=98 pgp3fTH3NgAAK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: macfuse and freerunner
Hello Il 17/12/2008 21:05, Boštjan Jerko ha scritto: I can ssh to Freerunner from Mac OSX, but I'd like to mount directories over ssh. Which sshd server are you using on Freerunner? If it is dropbear the problem is that dropbrear seem to be not supporting ssh mount. You have to switch OpenSSH. I hope it help to you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:46:01 pm Olivier Migeot wrote: Due to some rather irritating bugs in QTE (high-pitched loud noises from the loudspeaker when answering a call - quite disturbing for co-workers - and duplicating text messages) My guess with that is that's the phone going into speakerphone mode by itself and then causing feedback. I (hopefully!) solved that issue by moving the alsa config file for the speaker phone out of the way and symlinking the gsmhandset file to the original filename. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
Didier Raboud wrote: Marcus Bauer wrote: Hey guys, fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. What is hackable:1 ? distributions = distributions + 1 Just to be a little more precise: * This is not a judgment of quality of the given distribution. * I dislike the fact that the community (companies and individuals) forces are going in N directions, with N growing. * I don't think that multiplying the _distributions_ is doing any good to the OpenMoko ecosystem as whole. * What seems to lack is not _the perfect packaging scheme_ nor _the good assembly of softwares_. It's rock-solid basis functionality. -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Hi, I am asking me if it is not possible to get an acustic 'empty battery' warning some time before my phone really get's down. Is there a way to do this ? Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? Hope there is a solution. Other mobile phones do this :-) Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTExtended] duplicated sms
Giorgio Marci wrote: Hi to all, i have the same problem of several people: in qtextended 4.4.2 the messages are duplicated for some reason. For me not only messages, but incoming phone calls also I think the issue of ghost incoming calls is still here :-( even with using hypnotize image) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QTExtended--duplicated-sms-tp1668670p1668820.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Evgeny Karyakin wrote: Dunno... First link propose a case suggesting iPhone look, I think we shouldn't follow everything Apple come out with, and I second to pill case. When I first saw GTA02 look, I thought it's ugly, but that was just because it's unusual; now I like it and like a bottom hole around antenna. The hole is important. You can tie the phone to a string. And it is easier for the do-it-yourselfers to make brackets for car/bicycle use. With relation to Raster's case, if you're going to get sliding number keyboard, we just enter a troublesome field of hardware modification difficulties as infamous buzz/echo problem has proved us: * It's a moving part and can be broken. * Software developers will enforce heavier requirement on users to use keyboard; programs can become more difficult to use without it. * Software will especially be harder to use on the GTA01 and GTA02. * One more part for condensation/rain to ruin. If you want to waterproof GTA02, then you can probably do so with some work. Silicone in the case seams, and so on. fill the plugs with something. Now try this with a keyboard. The two buttons on GTA02 can be covered, they aren't used much so it is ok if they get cumbersome. Not so with a kayboard. * Localization issues. Hopefully Openmoko (phones) will be wide-spread across the world, but will Openmoko (company) be able to make several lingual versions of keyboard? This is an important point. Other phone makers all fail on this point. They sell phones with a english keyboard. This is not sufficent in the rest of Europe, of course. So they think they can paint the keytops differently, and change the keyboard driver. This fail, because there is not enough keys. Other languages using the latin alphabet tends to have a few letters more than just A-Z. And then you get ugly kludges where you have almost the local qwerty-layout, but the non-english stuff is in strange places requiring an extra shift modifier or some idiocy like that. They tend to be painted in a strange color too, so you can find them quicker in those unfamiliar places. The Norwegian blackberry is one such kludgephone. Well, they aren't all English. I have seen German phones too. Most markets are too small though. For an idea of just how irritating this is - imagine if you had a mostly english keyboard where a and q were absent - to be typed in with special shift followed by 1 or 2 respectively. There is no such problem with on-screen keyboards. I made a Norwegian terminal keyboard for my GTA02, with all the keys in the right places. It has more keys than the english terminal keyboard, but that was easy enough - a software fix. I don't think they'll make the GTA03 in 30 different keyboard versions - all painted slightly different and some with different number of keys too. And then some want a dvorak layout - 60 different layouts then. So they'll cut all the small-market keyboards - those that want them can re-paint their keyboards any way they want. :-/ Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:56:46 +, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything clear yet. Neil Take out the battery, SIM and uSD. Where the contacts for the uSD meet the PC board there will be a SMD capacitor (about .5x1mm) between two of the contacts, _IF_ it's newer than V5. Thanks, there's something of that size there. Also the date is 20080717, and /proc/cpuinfo's Revision is 0360. So mine is a v6. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
2008/12/17 Mateusz Skowroński sko...@gmail.com: Hi, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_find_out_what_version_of_hardware_I_have.3F Many thanks; I don't know how my googling missed that! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenVibe is out
Pander ha scritto: Carlo, nice application. If anyone is interested, I have an open source MIDlet in a JAR and the open source that also controls the vibrator function. Sorry, OpenVibe was not the first, me probably also not. mine is the first work with hardware open source :) where i can download your version? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using qi and booting from SD-cart
Hello, I'm using qi-s3c2442-master_2ad3ce6ff57753e3.udfu 01-Dec-2008 02:23 26K and a sd card (came with FR 512) with ext3 and I have put the kernel-file into /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin (yes I renamed it) Then I powerdown my FR (battery out), put the battery back in and press power hold it down and press AUX. 2 lines are shown s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19 power_supply bat: driver faild to report 'status' properly then the screen go's black and I have to press power and AUX again - same lines appear again afther some time FR boots with flash image I folowed the wiki on Qi and Enabling console messages and Put a rootdelay= in append-GTAXX like so: But no starting up from SD. Who can help me thanks Jos vd Snepscheut. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Il 17/12/2008 00:28, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ha scritto: Cinterion mc75i If someone need, here the specifications: http://www.wmocean.com/cinterion-siemens-mc75i/1007431/datasheet_scalableplatformmc75itc65itc63i_175016.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything clear yet. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Thanks for the reply Sarton, I'm in the process now of flashing in another load onto the Neo. I have the SD card that came with the Neo. I'm running from FLASH right now. I never put a load on the SD. I'm not so sure I would accuse the boot loader unless there's something you know that I don't. The system does start to boot but it fails somewhere along the way. The kernel is loading but fails while loading modules I think. I noticed that when it has stopped writing to the console I can then plug in or remove the USB cable and I get the usual module load/unload output to the console. I'm beginning to suspect that the X server is dying. Unfortunately, I can't get at the device through a console to muck about with it. Cheers!! On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:05 PM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: john dowd wrote: [SNIP] My point is that without modifying files on my Neo, it starts to behave differently. I have even more strange behaviour to report. After several reboot attempts (but no modifications to the Neo) it suddenly booted properly and I was up and running again. This was true for the last few hours. Now, it just started to behave badly once again. I am still testing my Access Point and the Neo gets booted quite a few times. its plugged into the power supply. Since I want the Neo to come up on its own I don't use the power switch/Gui to turn it off. I bring up a terminal and type in reboot. Ah ... are you running from SD Card already or from flash? This sort of behaviour is typical of unsupported SD Cards. If you are running from SD, what size is it? There are some tricks to get some cards working but I have had success with all 2GB cards. If you are running from nand, all I could suggest is a u-boot upgrade. Outside of that maybe there are hardware issues? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
Hi Ole, For the WSOD, I recommand you to use the SHR distribution. I had the same problem for a few month, killing any usuability of the phone, but since SHR have resolved it, it's far more enjoyable to use the phone. You can download it here: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 at the end of the list. Alex On 17/12/2008, at 13:10, Ole Kliemann wrote: Hi everyone! I have not been reading the lists lately, so I don't know if this is an old one. I have been suffering badly from WSOD. This means, often when I resumed from suspend the screen showed all white while other things still worked. Sometimes it recovered after some minutes and screen worked again, sometimes I waited for maybe 10 minutes then switched off the device. I had this problem since I got the device in July and I always thought this was a kernel problem. I tried about every kernel version so far but it was always the same. Now, GPS was not working on my device, so last week I finally returned it to my distributor and he sent me a new one. I am using the exact same kernel and distribution[1] that was giving my WSOD all the time on the old device (just like every kernel and distribution was given WSOD). But suspend/resume is now working flawlessly. No white screen ever! So this bug is highly hardware related after all? Replacing the hardware fixed it for me. Ole [1] http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=98 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Nikolaus, I don't get what's wrong with my questions? 1. About the case design - it was a poll on ML about different types of case - with keypad, without, slider, etc. So I think it make sense to ask what was finally chosen. 2. GSM chip: Look in here how many chips were considered: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoForesight It makes sense to ask which one was chosen, doesn't it? 3. GTA03 is internal codename, like GTA01 and GTA02, but they are called Neo1973 and Neo Freerunner. I seriously doubt GTA03 will go on sale with GTA03 name. 4 and 5, don't want even bother to comment this. Leonti Hello! As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes. I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it would be interesting to know something about next open phone. Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML. Does someone know how everything is going with gta03? 1. What case design is chosen? A good one. 2. What gsm chip? The best one! 3. How will it be called? GTA03! 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ? 12:00 (I don't know on which day) 5. Price estimate. Comparable to others. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using qi and booting from SD-cart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | I'm using qi-s3c2442-master_2ad3ce6ff57753e3.udfu | 01-Dec-2008 02:23 26K | | and a sd card (came with FR 512) with ext3 and I have put the | kernel-file into /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin (yes I renamed it) Sounds good. | Then I powerdown my FR (battery out), put the battery back in and press | power hold it down and press AUX. You shouldn't need to press AUX. | 2 lines are shown s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19 | power_supply bat: driver faild to report 'status' properly It has booted a kernel, either the one from SD Card or fallen back to NAND one. These are kernel messages. | then the screen go's black and I have to press power and AUX again - | same lines appear again afther some time FR boots with flash image | | I folowed the wiki on Qi and Enabling console messages and Put a | rootdelay= in append-GTAXX like so: This append-GTAXX would be append-GTA02 in this case, just making sure. | But no starting up from SD. Sounds like you are actually starting up from somewhere just not getting all the way. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklJZqIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpEjQCeOiKa3Qu5sXhNGvGYmBuJYKab QRgAnRIwpR3hryjE5Nj9HIJ1TY2nGTeh =1mPX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
2008/12/10 t m ttb.1...@gmail.com The goal of the optimization team was getting us a workable phone. I've installed the testing version yesterday and run into a lot of issues (echo, buzz, not able to wake up) I love the idea of this phone, the openness, the capabilities, but my patience has been stretched beyond tolerance. I have waited more than 2 years for an open phone. Now I have one, I can't use it and I will probably have to wait another half year before the phone will be able to do what any basic phone should be capable of. It is frustrating to see the appearance of great phones like HTC touch or even an iPhone that can do not only basic stuff, but also have the fun part from day one. Android phones are starting to appear. The HTC G1 is not available yet (in the Netherlands), but will be soon. It might not be as open as Openmoko, but it works, has got great features and it is open enough for me.. I opted for the G1, partly for the reasons you've given, but mainly because it turned out to be available as a free upgrade from my old handset. I can't say I'm terribly happy with it. I haven't had my hands on a Freerunner yet for comparison, but depending upon what you want to do with your phone, you may find that the Freerunner gets there first, or has already got there. If anyone in the Netherlands is interested in buying my Freerunner please contact me. I'm not a good advocate for the movement anymore, it will probably will be better if someone with a fresh attitude owns it. Based on my experience owning a G1, I'd suggest you try out whatever phone you're planning to use instead before you ditch your Freerunner. Also look at the forums, etc, to see some of the issues people are having. There's no perfect phone out there at the moment. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is that a solution if PMU doesn't support us with another solution ? Sure, make the phone wake up every 2 hours to check battery level. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit city search ?
Hi, I have got a basic database and was able to fill it with a map area of about 2.7 MB data. But this is very less compared to germany with about 3.5 GB. So when trying to get the database out of germany xsltproc gets killed due to memory problems. I currently only have 1 GB :-) The processing should be tailored into smaller regions. But about the data and the search: I think I would do search that way: 1.) Find the villages and its lon / lat by a SQL query by given first characters entered (minimum = 3). 2.) Find all streetnames by given first characters entered (minimum = 3). 3.) Display streets to villages sorted by distance If the data is in the database, this should be very fast. Then, when the user selects a street, it's position could be used to center the display to. Is this practical ? Lothar Am 17.12.2008 um 19:53 schrieb Lothar Behrens: Yes, I have found it too. If someone has interest, I am currently create an XSLT template to extract the relevant data of villages / cities and streets with their lon / lat coordinates. If I have it I try to setup a database to be a possible base for searching :-) Lothar Am 17.12.2008 um 17:51 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, has someone an example of searching a city and a street that works with the germany map when it was downloaded from the quicklink as of the page here lists: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps ? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps#Search_doesn.27t_work_in_most_countries and following... -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
Name a application that you would have expected to be made by the the community first but not has been delivered yet? (Something quirky but obvious or just in dire need) Where do you think has the community let you down? Name a aerea where you would have expected more community thrust but has failed. Where do you think could any person do the most for the project right now? Think of if that person would be ideal and have all the skills needed. And then, which skills are in most need right now and in the future? Minh Ha Duong wrote: Dear friends, Sean kindly agreed to be interviewed for the next edition of the Community Update newsletter. I invite every subscriber of this list to post the question or questions that s-he cares about most. No gloves. The general topic is Openmoko, the community, past-present-future, but yours truly will select with undue care the 3-5 most interesting / provocative / popular / relevant / funny / whatever and forward them to Sean next Monday. You may send your questions in this mailing list thread or privately to me. Minh PS: Everybody knows that Sean Moss-Pultz is Openmoko CEO, but you may also be interested to find that many of his past interviews are available here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko:Current_events http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Press_Coverage ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Marcus Bauer wrote: * GPS works out of the box It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) Is the GPS+SD card problem solved yet? Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
Hi, On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 02:14:33PM +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote: fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. why do we need another distribution? The better solution would be to include the packages into debian, isn't it? This way everyone benefits. One of your goals seems to be the prebuild tarball. I've downloaded one some time ago and found an authorized_keys file in root's .ssh directory. I guess it was just accidentally included, but... huuu... Greetings, Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it | is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in | stable soon. reading your email, andy, i assume that it is now in Nicolas' patches went in to our stable kernel 12 days ago, but when the various distros update to that, or if they want to use some different kernel tree is up to them. | so, my question is: what is the easiest way to get the wsod fix. | which distro, which uimage, etc. my choice would be to use andy | tracking since that seems to be the future but i understand that most | of the distros will have some broken bits due to some changes. | | this is really the last annoyance for me in using the phone on a regular basis. The kernel packages in testing repository have the workaround: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ The ones in the unstable repo lack it (?) Anyway the ones in the unstable repo should shortly become andy-tracking based, but not, evidently, yet. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklJJ3oACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqSFgCdFzRvlrOGT1Rl2aTjFisD+DPP f94An1Dr5+UTPY4r0sPmILBVkRqXEo+q =TQhf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | For the WSOD, I recommand you to use the SHR distribution. | | I had the same problem for a few month, killing any usuability of the | phone, but since SHR have resolved it, it's far more enjoyable to use | the phone. Nicolas Dufresne resolved it with a couple of patches that are in our current stable and andy-tracking kernels now. So the solution is independent of the distro used. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklI3PYACgkQOjLpvpq7dMq3vACdGs+2DsC4F5nAFg4wwaiLAtPV VwsAn05XxOiVxvf7KQ2Du+d3Up1F4YVa =ZbPM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
[About keyboard] All that you said makes a lot of sense to me. Also, I haven't missed a physical keyboard on the freerunner, if anyone cares. +1 Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
That's a pretty neat device. TCP/IP offload anyone? Or Push on the modem? Also, are we expecting any updates from the page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03 Are the prototype boards available to the public? On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com wrote: Il 17/12/2008 00:28, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ha scritto: Cinterion mc75i If someone need, here the specifications: http://www.wmocean.com/cinterion-siemens-mc75i/1007431/datasheet_scalableplatformmc75itc65itc63i_175016.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner and video telephony?
The next quarter I have use for a simple mobile video application. Ideally it should be a sip client running on the Freerunner with a webcam. (The Freerunner will also control some servos via usb) What image size and framerate can I expect? The video quality sent from the freerunner is more important than the video quality displayed on the freerunner screen. Voice quality is more important than video. Data transfer would happen over wifi. -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
Marcus Bauer wrote: Hey guys, fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. What is hackable:1 ? distributions = distributions + 1 -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
Neil Jerram schrieb: 2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package, most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can update directly from debian. Thanks, that will be fantastic. Debian is already wonderfully hackable, but not so good on the use-as-a-phone front, so it sounds like Debian+your hackable will be just the ticket. Neil quote: Current issues Messages starts but does not send the message - minor dbus issue if it is minor, do you guys have any idea how long it will take to resolve the issue and i am confused: some of the things you mentioned as features are still in the open tasks section of the wiki. is the wiki outdated? (i already took a look at the wiki about 10 days ago). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 16:12 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: Evgeny Karyakin wrote: Dunno... First link propose a case suggesting iPhone look, I think we shouldn't follow everything Apple come out with, and I second to pill case. When I first saw GTA02 look, I thought it's ugly, but that was just because it's unusual; now I like it and like a bottom hole around antenna. The hole is important. You can tie the phone to a string. And it is easier for the do-it-yourselfers to make brackets for car/bicycle use. Now that openvibe is out, perhaps we should put an orange warning label on the back of the freerunner, for the intended use of the hole ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
I took the black pill! On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:54:00AM -0800, Sargun Dhillon wrote: Meh, I actually like the pill design quite a bit! What's so wrong with the pill? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] How to make a beep in C++/Qt
Hi, how can I make a simple beep in C++/Qt? neither the Ascii commands printf(\a) or cout \a nor the Qt command QApplication::beep () seem to work. Do I have to change the volume settings for that? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: macfuse and freerunner
Michele Renda wrote: Hello Il 17/12/2008 21:05, Boštjan Jerko ha scritto: I can ssh to Freerunner from Mac OSX, but I'd like to mount directories over ssh. Which sshd server are you using on Freerunner? If it is dropbear the problem is that dropbrear seem to be not supporting ssh mount. You have to switch OpenSSH. I can use sshfs on ubuntu intrepid with dropbear on the freerunner (FDOM) I think macfuse is the same theory/same code so :-/ maybe use the -v flag to show us some verbose output... Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: macfuse and freerunner
Il 17/12/2008 22:36, Tim Dobson ha scritto: I can use sshfs on ubuntu intrepid with dropbear on the freerunner (FDOM) I think macfuse is the same theory/same code so :-/ maybe use the -v flag to show us some verbose output... Tim I apologize. May be my problem was something else. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using qi and booting from SD-cart (Andy Green)
Hello Andy, thanks for reacting. still have some questions if I may? Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | I'm using qi-s3c2442-master_2ad3ce6ff57753e3.udfu | 01-Dec-2008 02:23 26K | | and a sd card (came with FR 512) with ext3 and I have put the | kernel-file into /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin (yes I renamed it) Sounds good. Is the renaming needed? or can I use the origional kernel name? | Then I powerdown my FR (battery out), put the battery back in and press | power hold it down and press AUX. You shouldn't need to press AUX Just using power button the first line is shown very briefly and than the black screen again. using power button 2nd time gives me the first line and a blinking cursor without further action. | 2 lines are shown s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19 | power_supply bat: driver faild to report 'status' properly It has booted a kernel, either the one from SD Card or fallen back to NAND one. These are kernel messages. | then the screen go's black and I have to press power and AUX again - | same lines appear again afther some time FR boots with flash image | | I folowed the wiki on Qi and Enabling console messages and Put a | rootdelay= in append-GTAXX like so: This append-GTAXX would be append-GTA02 in this case, just making sure. Yes it is append-GTA02! | But no starting up from SD. Sounds like you are actually starting up from somewhere just not getting all the way. -Andy What can I do further, where can I find new information? I've been reading about git and saw a patch but I don't understand how to use it. Where can I find info on this? thanks Jos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using qi and booting from SD-cart (Andy Green)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello Andy, | thanks for reacting. still have some questions if I may? | Is the renaming needed? or can I use the origional kernel name? It's going to check for exactly /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin in the first three partitions. | | Then I powerdown my FR (battery out), put the battery back in | and press | | power hold it down and press AUX. | | You shouldn't need to press AUX | Just using power button the first line is shown very briefly and than | the black screen again. using power button 2nd time gives me the first | line and a blinking cursor without further action. Hum. | Yes it is append-GTA02! If something is wrong about the SD card partitions, it will fall back to using the NAND kernel partition (and the NAND rootfs then). In that case the /boot/append-GTA02 file won't apply since you're not using the kernel from there either. | What can I do further, where can I find new information? There's some information in the README file in git (click README here): http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qi.git;a=tree I would add loglevel=8 into /boot/append-GTA02 and see if you then get the booting log on the LCM. If you do, you know you are booting from SD and maybe there is some more info available. If not, you're likely booting from NAND. | I've been reading about git and saw a patch but I don't understand how | to use it. Where can I find info on this? If you want to build qi you need to install the toolchain, clone the repo git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/qi.git qi then checkout origin/master git checkout origin/master and run ./build - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklJfKcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr0ZgCbBPFOMUu9YjKPcQmQOsreXss8 +yEAoJOEricuk3gQ82D1+wmFKGV+dkvd =XDJA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit and espeak trouble
I also needed a bit time until i got it working together. First problem was that speech-dispatcher doesn't start at boot because it want to create /var/run/speech-dispatcher/speech-dispatcher.pid wich doesn't work at boot-time. Don't know why, because it works after i booted up. So i start speech-dispatcher in a script just before i start navit and end it after i quit navit. Then i tried text2speech with espeak and spd-say and spd-say works a bit better for me. First i tried in the console if text2speech was working. After successful tests i had to edit the speech line in navit.xml to [1]. Last problem was that navit doesn't speak german. But i just had to set the LANG variable before starting navit and adding the -l de parameter to spd-say. And now it works together without problems. Only the speech output sometimes stutter a bit because it needs quite much cpu. Ciao, Rainer [1] speech type=cmdline data=spd-say -l de '%s' / Dan Staley wrote: I'm also trying to set navit up in debian, however I am having trouble getting speech dispatcher to work as well as getting navit to talk to gpsd. Did you do anything special to get those working? Thanks, -Dan Staley On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 19:27 -0500, Fox Mulder wrote: Christian Anke wrote: Am Dienstag 16 Dezember 2008 12:37:38 schrieb Lothar Behrens: Hi, I think I have figured out why navit sometimes seems to hang (except it calculates big routes). After killing my last navit session I have seen espeak still running, but it did not say anithing :-) Is this a known problem ? I am currently using ASU 2008/8 with a timestamp at 16, Nov 2008. Navit is the latest 0.1.0 release. Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen Hi, do you use espeak with speech-dispatcher? and btw, did it speak german? I use it with speech-dispatcher and navit speaks german. You just have to set the language before starting navit (LANG variable). Ciao, Rainer PS: I only use it with debian. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
With an FSO based system you could do this easily with help of oevents.
In the file /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml exists two entries
for actions to be taken when the battery is nearly empty. You could
easily edit these entries and do LED actions or play some sound files.
The relevant entries are these:
while: PowerStatus()
filters: HasAttr(status, critical)
actions: SetLed(gta02_power_orange, blink)
trigger: PowerStatus()
filters: HasAttr(status, empty)
actions: Command('poweroff')
You can add your own actions as described at the beginning of this file.
For example the following line look good for your scenario:
# - PlaySound(file) : Action that starts to play an audio file
I already edited this file to start the red AUX LED blinking when on
battery to see if my freerunner is in standby or just the screen is
blanked. And i also edited the maximum brightness to be 60 and not 90 in
this file to save some energy (bright enough to still see everything
good). So you can do really nice things with help of the oevents rules. :)
Ciao,
Rainer
Lothar Behrens wrote:
Hi,
I am asking me if it is not possible to get an acustic 'empty battery'
warning some time before my phone really get's down.
Is there a way to do this ?
Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do
this warning ?
Hope there is a solution. Other mobile phones do this :-)
Thanks
Lothar
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Videos from Openmoko presentation at Madrid GUL congress
Dear all, In spite of the videos are in Spanish you will find at minute 11:00 from the first part a beautiful close ups of different openmoko distributions running on Neo best regards http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=1postId=3 -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Doom Issues
I'm wondering myself why nobody else said anything about doom on debian. So i also thought that it works for anybody else or maybe no one tried doom with debian so far except for me. ;) Ciao, Rainer SCarlson wrote: Sorry I haven't responded to your request. Been busy at work lately. I will have some free time next week (taking vacation and will be going to visit family.) I will install debian and do some testing from this end when I reach my destination. I will post my findings ASAP. Has anyone played Doom on Debian successfully? I just never had a chance to install and test, and I haven't heard from anyone else really at all, so I assumed for the most part, it was functioning fine. -Scott Fox Mulder wrote: Could you please compile a version with these debug outputs? I still can't play doom because i don't know the reason why it hangs at the start screen. This would really help to solve the problem for me and mayby some other debian users. :) Fox Mulder wrote: I think the debug output would be very helpfull. When the doom menu appears the log says that the demo starts running but the screen never changes. It freezes at the menu where to select new game, options and so on. The behaviour is the same if i try it with framebuffer or xglamo and with or without rotate/resize. Ciao, Rainer SCarlson wrote: I haven't had a chance to install Debian and test Doom yet. I can say that I had to use special patched binary of XGlamo for the scaling of the touchscreen to work. If the game is running, but you can do anything (i.e. demo is running) then I would assume that the touchscreen is not reporting valid x,y coordinates. So I would say you may be subject to bug #1244 . Not sure if someone has patched this for debian's xglamo package. Let me know if this helps? We can add some debug output and test on your system if you'd like. (That way we could see for sure what reported x,y values are being used. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
I'll just take this opportunity to politely wave a sign for everyone who thinks the GTA03 needs 3G. - Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all! - | | | I wave it on their behalf because they've all left me here while they buy the Android phone. That is all. Justyn. 2008/12/17 Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: That would shine a light on the what is a small... definition! Orange label: WARNING: if it fits, it IS small! :) Maybe we should 3nl4rge the hole. There's pills for that on the internet (and all over my INBOX). -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler justynbutler+openm...@googlemail.com wrote: Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all! I have to agree with Justyn and say that we need a 3G phone. I bought this phone in hopes that I can use it when I travel around. Unfortunately, when I leave the country, it just becomes a toy to play around with and most of the time I have to leave it behind :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VAR market
Le Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:33 +0100, Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com a écrit : What is hackable:1 ? Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. What is the VAR market ? Is it related to this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_at_risk -- Frédéric Leroy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VAR market
Everything's at risk in the current global financial state ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_Added_Reseller 2008/12/17 Frederic Leroy fr...@starox.org: Le Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:33 +0100, Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com a écrit : What is hackable:1 ? Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. What is the VAR market ? Is it related to this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_at_risk -- Frédéric Leroy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
What distro? - clock doesnt work on 2008.9 through to the current testing. BillK On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:12 +0100, Lothar Behrens wrote: Hmm, using the clock to wake me up in the morning would be an option to check the battery. It even wakes up, or boots, if I have shut down the phone :-) If the clock is not at a really alarm time (to wake me up :-), it could configure the next wakeup to check the battery. Is that a solution if PMU doesn't support us with another solution ? Lothar Am 17.12.2008 um 13:35 schrieb William Kenworthy: Doesnt it already do that - I know that in the middle of the night I used to get regularly awakened by a sht sound from the Fr as the battery ran out - oh wait, you mean before ... :) Its actually a good idea - I use a couple of perl scripts to flash the leds in various colours/rates to indicate charge. Doesnt help when shut down though. Perhaps a cron job to wake every hour and check the charge, then go back to sleep? Does cron work on the FR these days? BillK On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:16 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU stuff well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 | | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin | | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk after having installed the packages above, can i just opkg install this kernel you mention? thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Peter Abplanalp pta-openm...@psaconsultants.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 | | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin | | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk after having installed the packages above, can i just opkg install this kernel you mention? ok, so i flashed the images above and then did a wget for the kernel opk and then did a opkg install kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk. again after 5-10 suspend/resume cycles, i got the wsod again. does this mean i did something wrong or that you are mistaken or that i was unlucky enough to get bad hardware? if the first, please tell me what i did wrong. if the second, could you point me to a kernel that has the fix? if the third, can i get a warranty replacement? if so, how do i go about doing that? i bought my phone from the web shop. thanks, -peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:00:34 +, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: I don't know what the physical difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power without battery) It's a bigger C1767 - according to the schematics it's 4.7uF on A5, 47uF on A6 and 100uF on A7. Werner's writeup of the investigations is here: http://people.openmoko.org/werner/gta02-chg/ Thanks - that was most of what I was needing. Unfortunately it doesn't identify the real estate occupied by C1767 there, nor in the component placement diagrams. Can someone point me at the right spot on the board? If it's got enough room for the same 3528 cap we're looking at for the big-C rework (which I doubt, though it looks like it will fit for the big-C position) that would be great. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WSOD
additional note. the wsod is definitely temperature related. when in my cold basement, i get the wsod every time on suspend/resume. i'd like to know what my options are from here on out. i'd be happy to ship my freerunner to someone who can help debug this or perform any testing that i can to help. -peter On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Peter Abplanalp pta-openm...@psaconsultants.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Peter Abplanalp pta-openm...@psaconsultants.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 | | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage.bin | | booted it up and within 5-10 suspend/resume cycles i got the wsod | again. should these images have the fix? if not, can someone point | me to a kernel/rootfs that doesn't wsod? I can't tell from the filename if they should have it or not. But, I can tell from the filename of this package that it should have it. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk after having installed the packages above, can i just opkg install this kernel you mention? ok, so i flashed the images above and then did a wget for the kernel opk and then did a opkg install kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk. again after 5-10 suspend/resume cycles, i got the wsod again. does this mean i did something wrong or that you are mistaken or that i was unlucky enough to get bad hardware? if the first, please tell me what i did wrong. if the second, could you point me to a kernel that has the fix? if the third, can i get a warranty replacement? if so, how do i go about doing that? i bought my phone from the web shop. thanks, -peter -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
