Re: [Qt Extended 4.4.2] [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 4:11:15 pm Chris Samuel wrote: So I went back to the drawing board and changed it to use the AT%N0187 command to enable both noise reduction and echo suppression in one hit I've posted the patch *and* the compiled version of the resulting libneovendor.so library on my blog here: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo in case any other QtE users want to test it out. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS wrong longitude
hi all, I've tried several distrib (FSO, SHR) and I have an issue with the GPS maybe more specifically TangoGPS, don't know the symptom is : After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 degree west Does anyone have the same issue ? any idea on how to fix ? many thanks, and, oh, happy new year Nicolas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is there an effort to port ubuntu to openmoko?
well, ubuntu has this mid (or what they might call it) port going on -- but it is based on arm5 while the fr uses arm4. you could ask them how much work it is to make it run on arm4 ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone frequent wake
Thank you for your help and sorry I did not get it the first time around. no problem. After much digging, I found that frameworkd is, in fact, sending the correct commands to the modem when suspend is called on the framework. The problem on my system was that apm -s was being invoked directly in rules.yaml instead if Suspend(). After fixing that, power button suspend is working great. sounds like a bug to me. who created that entry in rules.yaml? would be nice to have the automatic suspend working as well. nour sure about the illume/e thing (i do not use it, the wholöe thing of decompiling/recompiling those gui files just to insert an additional textfield or so is too big a hurdle for me), but automatic suspend is somehow available, you basically need only a rule in rules.yaml, there was a thread in december i think. but so far it seems not very intelligent, ie it might even suspend while making a call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is there an effort to port ubuntu to openmoko?
Note that Debian is already ported. Ubuntu is just Debian unstable+six months of stabilization... Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is there an effort to port ubuntu to openmoko?
Why to port Ubuntu, while we have a wonderful and sexy Debian ? :) (PS. who write is a Ubuntu user :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
networkmanager used to ignore interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces (and does this still on my debian/unstable box), so putting the wiki's stanza for usb0 auto usb0 ... might be worth a try. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
2009/1/8 Nicolas Laurance nlaura...@zindep.com: After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 degree west sorry if i'm being missing the point and being pedantic, but i'm sure latitude measures angle north/south of the equator. longitude measures the angle east/west of the greenwich meridian are you at a point where the two have similar values, and getting them the wrong way round? alternatively, how precise is the lat/lon reading? tangogps provides an hdop value - realistically, this should be as low as possible. maybe you can't get a good fix, because of trees/buildings/old kernel with microsd interference? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anyone tried Qi?
No DFU capable USB device found Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel to the NAND? not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: GPS wrong longitude
2009/1/8 Nicolas Laurance nlaura...@zindep.com: After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 degree west sorry if i'm being missing the point and being pedantic, but i'm sure latitude measures angle north/south of the equator. longitude measures the angle east/west of the greenwich meridian are you at a point where the two have similar values, and getting them the wrong way round? alternatively, how precise is the lat/lon reading? tangogps provides an hdop value - realistically, this should be as low as possible. maybe you can't get a good fix, because of trees/buildings/old kernel with microsd interference? One degree in latitude means 111 kilometers. This thread is yearning for a screenshot! Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended 4.4.2] [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 19:37:41 +1100 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 4:11:15 pm Chris Samuel wrote: So I went back to the drawing board and changed it to use the AT%N0187 command to enable both noise reduction and echo suppression in one hit I've posted the patch *and* the compiled version of the resulting libneovendor.so library on my blog here: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo in case any other QtE users want to test it out. cheers! Chris Thank you very much! -- /_\ The ASCII Per comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
arne anka wrote: networkmanager used to ignore interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces (and does this still on my debian/unstable box), so putting the wiki's stanza for usb0 auto usb0 ... might be worth a try. That sounds like a good idea, thanks for the hint. My eee and other machines all run debian and NM does the same. I think it's geared to usage situations (like in 90% of cases) where only one network connection is required at a time, and if a wired interface comes up you probably want to use it in preference to wireless most of the time. One of my quarrels with NM is that it's difficult to figure out how to stop it autoconnecting to, say, the neighbours open wireless that you used for a couple of days before your own ADSL was installed -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/stupid-networking-question-tp2120334p2127346.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
One of my quarrels with NM is that it's difficult to figure out how to stop it autoconnecting to, say, the neighbours open wireless that you used for a couple of days before your own ADSL was installed i think a right click somewhere brings up a list of preferred networks where you can delete the entries not needed anymore (i distinctly remember the list, but not how i got there -- the offending network maybe?) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
arne anka wrote: i think a right click somewhere brings up a list of preferred networks where you can delete the entries not needed anymore (i distinctly remember the list, but not how i got there -- the offending network maybe?) I think that may depend on the version, but on the redhat machine I've got beside me right now, yup, there's a right click edit wireless networks option. I also found out that somewhere under ~/.gconf there's a directory for each wireless network and you can delete those. Less than intuitive though! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/stupid-networking-question-tp2120334p2127390.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
I also found out that somewhere under ~/.gconf there's a directory for each wireless network and you can delete those. ah! you're using gnome. Less than intuitive though! well, it's gnome, isn't it? anyway, that's totally ot for the list now ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anyone tried Qi?
No DFU capable USB device found Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel to the NAND? not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util. dfu-util should autodetect all DFU capable devices, so if it doesn't find one it is probably not DFU capable. I noticed this because my usb sound card was brutely reset when I tried to flash the FR ;) grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
FYI: On my kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE installed by default) using the KDE NetworkManager I followed the advices on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others but insereted auto usb0 into /etc/network/interfaces as suggested by arne. It looks now like that: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # freerunner auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop After a reboot (NetworkManager did not want to play well i.e. did not adopt to the changes) I get Device usb0: unmanaged and everything works as expected: My FR get's configured by /etc/network/freerunner and my (W)LAN-connections a correctly handled by NetworkManager. I guess this solution solves the issue for Ubuntu and all it's derivates too. Probably for all KDE-Installations as it seems that the key is to make the NetworkManager ignore the usb0-Interface. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Indian FR Owners
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009, Vibhav Sharma wrote: And: come on ppl. respond. I want to see what happens when you call one OM phone from another. I have a FR and I'm in Mumbai. I used to use it as my day phone with QTExtended. Switched back to an old Nokia when the battery ran out a few days ago. Will switch back as soon as I can manage some time. Btw, Rakshat: We can use your booth at TechFest for a small (impromptu?) meet. Does the offer of a free battery apply here as well? :) --gera. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:58:09 pm Thomas Otterbein wrote: On my kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE installed by default) using the KDE NetworkManager I followed the advices on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others Which version of Kubuntu are you running ? I seem to remember some people commenting that with Intrepid (8.10) that stopped working, though I've not attempted to use this on my Intrepid laptop yet (I just do the ifconfig by hand). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
Which version of Kubuntu are you running ? 8.10 I seem to remember some people commenting that with Intrepid (8.10) that stopped working, though I've not attempted to use this on my Intrepid laptop yet (I just do the ifconfig by hand). yes I had the same issue but the described method solved it, at least for me. However I just got tired of continously running a whole bunch of commands just to get my phone -trying to avoid the term expensive brick here ;-) - connected to the internet and ready to receive updates. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems (was: Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced...)
Paul Fertser wrote: rm -rf staging mkdir -p staging make ARCH=arm modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=staging cd staging tar czf ../modules-whatever.tar.gz . cd .. And then scp your modules-whatever.tar.gz to FR and untar to /. Sorry if i'm annoying you, but now it worked. :) After i read build how you mentioned i found the problem why no modules tar.gz were created. The build script needs a second parameter to create the archive where the parameter can be whatever. I don't know why this check is build into the script but with help of that it worked. Second problem was that i had to copy the .config into the dummy directory and not the linux-2.6 dir to be found. The problem is that the info on the toolchain wiki [1] is a bit wrong concerning kernel compiling. So i added a remark with the right steps on this page. I updated my fso-frameworkd with help of the patch from [2] and copied the kernel and modules to the right place. Than i booted with the new 2.6.28 kernel but it didn't work at the first try. I have a 64MB swap file activated in /etc/fstab which lies on the third vfat partition of my sd-card. And at the point where the message activating swap partitions came it hung and showed an error message after 120sec timeout. So i thought that vfat wasn't working at boot time and i disabled the swap file. Next boot goes through and the freerunner started without any suspicious error messages. After it booted the sd-card was mounted what means that vfat should work. I had the same problem with the swap file a few weeks ago with an older andy kernel and i don't know what the problem is. But after a short test i found a few things that doesn't work anymore. Don't know if they are related to the fso-frameworkd patches or to the new kernel. Openmoko-panel-plugin doesn't start anymore with an error message [3]. The system time was set back to 1 Jan 2000. And the greatest problem i had was wlan. I could access the eth0 device and it shows all available wlan stations but i can't use my wpa2 protected wlan with wpa_supplicant anymore. Iwconfig showed that i should be connected to my wlan but i can't get an ip with dhcp anymore like with my old 2.6.24 kernel. The dhcp client always tries and after 6-7 dhcpdiscover it exits with no dhcp server available. That is the reason why i'm now back to the 2.6.24 kernel where these things work. Maybe the userspace tools need a bit more tweaking before they work together with the new 2.6.28 kernel. Or the configuration for the 2.6.28 kernel have to be modified to work with my system. I removed a few unneeded modules (i.e. Android things) and added a few modules but i don't think that these have to do anything with my problems. :/ I attached my dmesg log. Maybe someone know of any other modifications i can try to get the new kernel running a bit smoother. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Building_Openmoko_Kernel_from_git_repo_using_Toolchain [2] http://trac.freesmartphone.org/attachment/ticket/293/0001-Modify-sys-paths-to-work-with-andy-tracking-kernel.patch [3] Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin, line 52, in module icon = PanelPlugin(dbus_object, notificationAvailable) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PanelPlugin.py, line 32, in __init__ self.configReader() File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PanelPlugin.py, line 46, in configReader self.appendIcon(icon) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PanelPlugin.py, line 72, in appendIcon self.icons.append(USBIcon(self.dbus, self, self.notificationAvailable)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/USBIcon.py, line 17, in __init__ PowerStateIcon.__init__(self, self.dbus, None, None, UsbHost, self.parentObject, usb, self.notificationAvailable) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PowerStateIcon.py, line 19, in __init__ self.powerstate = self.dbusdeviceiface.GetPower() File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method GetPower with signature on interface org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl doesn't exist [0.00] Linux version 2.6.28-GTA02_andy-tracking_b8b36e5ec3db71d5-mokodev (r...@wayne) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 7 14:41:32 CET 2009 [0.00] CPU: ARM920T [41129200] revision 0 (ARMv4T), cr=c0007177 [0.00] CPU: VIVT data cache, VIVT instruction cache [0.00] Machine: GTA02 [0.00] Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writeback [0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 32768 [0.00] free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c04b98bc, node_mem_map
Re: GPS wrong longitude
sorry if i'm being missing the point and being pedantic, but i'm sure latitude measures angle north/south of the equator. you're right, a typo from me, mea culpa the latitude N/S is correct the longitude is biased W by ± 1°, correct that's more than 100 km I confirm the position on the map (OSM or google) is OK only the display in the track tab is completely wrong screenshot1 shows the map, the position is ok screenshot2 shows the track tab, the longitude is bad it should be something close to W 002° 22.764 http://maps.google.fr/?ie=UTF8ll=47.808673,-2.379398spn=0.067214,0.147972z=13 NL inline: Screenshot-2.jpg___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
Thomas Otterbein wrote: It looks now like that: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # freerunner auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop You should only use auto usb0 or allow-hotplug usb0 but not both at the same time. For me it only works with auto and not hotplug but don't ask why. ;) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:13:46 pm Thomas Otterbein wrote: yes I had the same issue but the described method solved it, at least for me. Excellent! When I get a round tuit I'll sort that out on the laptop. :-) However I just got tired of continously running a whole bunch of commands just to get my phone -trying to avoid the term expensive brick here ;-) - connected to the internet and ready to receive updates. I've got my main desktop set up for that already, but that's running 8.04. All the best, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
screenshot1 sorry inline: Screenshot-1.jpg___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
You should only use auto usb0 or allow-hotplug usb0 but not both at the same time. For me it only works with auto and not hotplug but don't ask why. ;) Yes but it seems that entering both does not do any harm. The networking configuration uses the latest statement (allow-hotplug) while stupid NetworkManager only looks for auto to release his grip on the devices. So both get what they need to work properly and everyone is happy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Sorry if i'm annoying you, but now it worked. :) No problem, i'm glad it worked :) After i read build how you mentioned i found the problem why no modules tar.gz were created. The build script needs a second parameter I think it needs a first parameter exactly as described on the wiki. Second problem was that i had to copy the .config into the dummy directory and not the linux-2.6 dir to be found. I have no idea where that dummy directory came from :) I'm afraid you're misinterpreting the build script. It seems to me that instructions on wiki are correct. error messages. After it booted the sd-card was mounted what means that vfat should work. I had the same problem with the swap file a few weeks ago with an older andy kernel and i don't know what the problem is. There was a test report from a user stating that his uSD is unstable unless he lowers sd_clock. It might be a problem here, as well. Openmoko-panel-plugin doesn't start anymore with an error message [3]. That's because you use an old unfixed version of o-p-p that tries to read information about usb host power from /sys nodes that were changed. I think you can fix it yourself with the help of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#GTA02_.2Fsys_mappings_for_andy-tracking_vs_stable and suggest to o-p-p developers to be compatible with andy-tracking. And the greatest problem i had was wlan. I could access the eth0 device and it shows all available wlan stations but i can't use my wpa2 protected wlan with wpa_supplicant anymore. Iwconfig showed that i should be connected to my wlan but i can't get an ip with dhcp anymore like with my old 2.6.24 kernel. The dhcp client always tries and after 6-7 dhcpdiscover it exits with no dhcp server available. That clearly looks as a regression. I think you should write in details what problems with wlan you experience along with wpa_supplicant debug output and relevant dmesg to the kernel mailing list, where it would (hopefully) be investigated. For me wlan with wpa (not wpa2) works just fine. HTH -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
LWN.net reviews android dev phone
...which may be of interest to people on this list. the article is part of this week's edition, which is still on paid-only general acccess, but users of this list can read the article (without registering) at http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/311715/01e7686dee76f148/ (_kudos_ to lwn for their send-a-link feature). some interesting comments about how tied-to-google the phone seems to be: More annoying, though, is that the phone requires the creation of a Gmail account as part of its setup process. The fact that one does not have - and does not want - such an account is not relevant. So now your editor has an entry in the Gmail account database which will never be used. That, of course, ties in to why Google has gotten into this exercise in the first place. There are many features of the Android platform which are designed to tie the user in more closely to services provided by Google. [...] It is possible to use many of the features of the device without connecting back to the Google mother ship, but it's not the natural mode of operation. anyway, it's there if you're interested. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO-SHR] SMS-Middleware - Need Help
Hi all I am trying to use Sms-Middleware http://code.google.com/p/sms-middleware/ which theoritically allows you to load actions when receiving sms with key codes. For example : filter sms from your mum, run any shell command , etc. It is very promising for me, so I tried to install the last ipk on my updated SHR(testing). I haven't seen any email to contact the authors, so I hope they receive the community list. After the installation, I have 2 new icons on the desktop : SMG and SMM. SMG : I can load the first one, but I have not understand how to use it. The only response I get is with the button install plugin. When I do install a plugin (rpc.py for example), I still cannot view it on the plugin list. SMM : when I click on this SMM icon on the desktop, I get an error, and nothing loads. That is where I am now. Has anyone tried this software ? Is it still under developpement (I saw the last ipk was released on august) ? thanks in advance for any help kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LWN.net reviews android dev phone
That, of course, ties in to why Google has gotten into this exercise in the first place. There are many features of the Android platform which are designed to tie the user in more closely to services provided by Google. took the guys at lwm.net obviously rather long, to see that ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
leonardo wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: it's cool, you should really patent it! :-))) Please die a slow and painful death for suggesting that. [1] Rui [1] unless you were really just making a very bad taste joke :) Of course it was [1]... T9 is quite emblematic for software patents and patents in general: someone patents something which is really nothing revolutionary, the effort to produce such an invention is really low, but nobody can come-up with something similar for the fear of being sued. If you look at the patent itself (wikipedia says: http://www.google.com/patents?id=PmgCEBAJ) you see it's 27 pages of pointless diagrams and 7 pages of a very vague description of how a reduced keyboard disambiguating computer. At a very fast lecture, the patent might not even apply to our case, since it says: The keyboard has twelve keys, nine of them labeled with numerous letters and other symbols, and those nine plus one more are labeled each with one of the ten digits. It seems if your keyboard doesn't have 12 keys you're safe. I wouldn't be surprised if T2-T26 would be patented too.. More important, the patent is about reduced keyboard disambiguating. If the keyboard isn't reduced, i.e. it has all the keys, then that patent doesn't seem to apply. The illume keyboard aren't missing any keys for example. It only uses a dictionary because users sometimes miss. There is no ambiguity at all to resolve, only error correction for fat-fingered typing. (T9 does not try to resolve wrong-key misses) Disambiguating and error correction is not the same. Oh, and they mention keyboards. Many phones has keyboards with about 12 keys. The neo has a touchscreen instead, its two keys are not used for text input. :-) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
So, correct position on the map, but wrong numbers. Maybe tangogps has an error converting its numerical variables to strings for the screen. Try notifying the developer(s). Also try reading the gps with some other software. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Seeling my Freerunner on Ebay
yes i it an American model (850) @steven, I used it in france with a Mobicarte and it worked perfectly well. Philippe On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Steven Le Roux ste...@le-roux.info wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: feydreva wrote: Hello, I just bought an another phone, so I am selling my Freeruner on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=270326829135 Starting bid is 100$, no reserve, free shipping. Phone is like new, it always had a zack invisible shield for the full body and for the screen. Headset have never been used, and it comes with the pouch. (i lost the stylus long time ago). I can provide more picture and more info in request. At the moment, it is loaded with the 2008.12 version of software. Regards Philippe You forgot to say whether this was the 850 or 900 model. From the fact that the phone is located in the US, I'm assuming it's the 850 model. Shachar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community If you run this 850MHz phone in EU, it should work on both 1800/1900 even if 850 can't reach any BTS, right ? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO ERROR: failed to rename //usr/lib/opkg/status.tmp
Hi, I'm currently using images from fso-testing. openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090107-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.24-oe4+gitrfb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r0-om-gta02.bin r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jan 2 12:26:36 UTC 2009 armv4tl unknown Each time I install a new application with opkg, I get this error message . . . . file_move: ERROR: failed to rename //usr/lib/opkg/status.tmp to //usr/lib/opkg/status: No such file or directory . . . . the new packages appear to be installing ok, /usr/lib/opkg/status is in fact there, but this error remains. Does anybody get this same error message? cheers -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO-ERROR%3A-failed-to-rename---usr-lib-opkg-status.tmp-tp2128268p2128268.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
I can also, if it's useful, give a GPS track showing this issue; you can see it on an OpenStreetMap[1] map, here[2]. It has bee already loaded in OSM's database, so you only have to download the osm datas and the gpx datas for the area. LAT MIN: 41.06546877365579 LAT MAX: 41.07294855015945 LON MIN: 16.914316880834026X LON MAX: 16.928509008753377 [1] www.openstreetmap.org [2]http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.06992lon=16.92266zoom=17layers=B000FTF Nicolas Laurance wrote: hi all, I've tried several distrib (FSO, SHR) and I have an issue with the GPS maybe more specifically TangoGPS, don't know the symptom is : After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 degree west Does anyone have the same issue ? any idea on how to fix ? many thanks, and, oh, happy new year Nicolas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO ERROR: failed to rename //usr/lib/opkg/status.tmp
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM, qhaz q...@bur.st wrote: Does anybody get this same error message? Yes, I do. But I have no idea on what causes it. Sorry. -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO ERROR: failed to rename //usr/lib/opkg/status.tmp
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Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Sorry if i'm annoying you, but now it worked. :) No problem, i'm glad it worked :) After i read build how you mentioned i found the problem why no modules tar.gz were created. The build script needs a second parameter I think it needs a first parameter exactly as described on the wiki. Thats right. Only the name dummy can also be anything else like GTA02 or whatever. Second problem was that i had to copy the .config into the dummy directory and not the linux-2.6 dir to be found. I have no idea where that dummy directory came from :) I'm afraid you're misinterpreting the build script. It seems to me that instructions on wiki are correct. I took a closer look at the build script and i'm quite sure that i'm interpreting it correct. Maybe the name dummy as first parameter is not very good. In the wiki it uses dummy as first parameter which is nothing else than the name of the output subdirectory. But the build script also has a check for a second parameter with if [ ! -z $2 ] ; then in line 96. And only if a second parameter is given, no matter what it is, the code between line 97 and 100 for making a modules tar.gz file is executed. But this parameter is not mentioned in the wiki. error messages. After it booted the sd-card was mounted what means that vfat should work. I had the same problem with the swap file a few weeks ago with an older andy kernel and i don't know what the problem is. There was a test report from a user stating that his uSD is unstable unless he lowers sd_clock. It might be a problem here, as well. Ok, i will try if this helps at boot time. Openmoko-panel-plugin doesn't start anymore with an error message [3]. That's because you use an old unfixed version of o-p-p that tries to read information about usb host power from /sys nodes that were changed. I think you can fix it yourself with the help of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#GTA02_.2Fsys_mappings_for_andy-tracking_vs_stable and suggest to o-p-p developers to be compatible with andy-tracking. Sounds good. And the greatest problem i had was wlan. I could access the eth0 device and it shows all available wlan stations but i can't use my wpa2 protected wlan with wpa_supplicant anymore. Iwconfig showed that i should be connected to my wlan but i can't get an ip with dhcp anymore like with my old 2.6.24 kernel. The dhcp client always tries and after 6-7 dhcpdiscover it exits with no dhcp server available. That clearly looks as a regression. I think you should write in details what problems with wlan you experience along with wpa_supplicant debug output and relevant dmesg to the kernel mailing list, where it would (hopefully) be investigated. For me wlan with wpa (not wpa2) works just fine. I hope i find much debug information and will mail it in the kernel list. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I took a closer look at the build script and i'm quite sure that i'm | interpreting it correct. | Maybe the name dummy as first parameter is not very good. In the wiki | it uses dummy as first parameter which is nothing else than the name This has changed in the last week. It was taking me a great deal of time to switch between GTA02 and GTA03 kernel builds, so I changed the build script to use the O= kernel makefile parameter to keep the object files and configs for the builds in different subdirs. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=aeb4db1b913993a3e06522f13bab79decbd3cdef This reduces the time needed to switch typically to just 10 - 20 seconds or so. It requires the subdir name to be given in the first parameter as described in the changed build script. The optional dummy parameter to signal that you want a module tarball is then the second parameter now. It sounds like the combination of the Wiki and the comments and error help in the build script led to you some kind of hybrid solution, but the idea is you would have a GTA02 subdir with suitable config and build that with ./build GTA02, while having a GTA03 subdir with different config and build that with ./build GTA03. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklmOSUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMq5YACZASNu4qpntsx30j0cdxgvBoTw rYoAoILbeIC66Dyqv4u1Gzxa/kO9IOsU =e0hQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
[1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in a government-provided vault. IIRC, the history of patents is a bit more interesing than people think, and the end result's paradoxes are not as unintended as you'd think. But it really should be expected: just as is still the case now (if not even more), the (potential) holders of big patent portfolio had a lot of leverage. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
It looks now like that: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # freerunner auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop You should only use auto usb0 or allow-hotplug usb0 but not both at the same time. Why not? auto is the same as allow-auto and nothing says you can't have allow-toto eth0 and allow-tata eth0 and allow-titi eth0. So if you have both allow-hotplug and auto for the same interface, it just means you want to bring it up at boot and you also want to bring it up when it gets plugged in. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
only sense when a usb networking capable device is plugged in -- so allow-hotplug seems the only sensible option, to me, that is. Yes, but you both leave the OpenSource-Factor out. The (K)Ubuntu NetworkManager does not accept the allow-hotplug as a sign to keep it's fingers out of the interface configuration. The author has only considered auto as a possible option (at least I guess it's that simple). So sensible, correct or useless - it's the solution to the issue The FR cannot be used under KDE with running NetworkManager which seems to be a quite common problem. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
So, with 2008.9 I was using iptables to tether my ubuntu laptop to my freerunner's gprs connection. But as of 2008.12 I'm getting an Illegal instruction error each time I run the iptables command. Commands I run on the freerunner to enable tethering after gprs connection: iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 I've noticed that most but not all iptables commands generate the same Illegal instruction error as well. Has anyone got around this yet? I've installed iptables, iptables-utils, and upgraded libgcc1 to v4.2.4-r5.1 from the angstrom repository. -Nick _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
2009/1/9 Nicolas Laurance nlaura...@zindep.com: screenshot2 you're not locked on to any satellites the numbers at the bottom-left of the screen, (12/0) say the gps can see 12, and is locked on to 0 - it needs to lock on to 4 or 5 minimum to get a fix it looks like you've previously got a fix, then turned off the gps and restarted it. gpsd will often report phantom locations (usually the last place you were at before turning off) in this situation - even, as in this case, a decent hdop value (2.6) you need to make sure gps is on and wait until it gets a fix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I took a closer look at the build script and i'm quite sure that i'm | interpreting it correct. | Maybe the name dummy as first parameter is not very good. In the wiki | it uses dummy as first parameter which is nothing else than the name This has changed in the last week. It was taking me a great deal of time to switch between GTA02 and GTA03 kernel builds, so I changed the build script to use the O= kernel makefile parameter to keep the object files and configs for the builds in different subdirs. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=aeb4db1b913993a3e06522f13bab79decbd3cdef This reduces the time needed to switch typically to just 10 - 20 seconds or so. It requires the subdir name to be given in the first parameter as described in the changed build script. The optional dummy parameter to signal that you want a module tarball is then the second parameter now. It sounds like the combination of the Wiki and the comments and error help in the build script led to you some kind of hybrid solution, but the idea is you would have a GTA02 subdir with suitable config and build that with ./build GTA02, while having a GTA03 subdir with different config and build that with ./build GTA03. Thanks for this information. :) So the right command line would be something like ./build GTA02 dummy to find within the GTA02 directory the modules tar.gz afterwards. But before i first run the build script i have to create the GTA02 directory by hand and copy the .config into it. Else the build script doesn't find any .config and starts the console configuration of the kernel. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anyone tried Qi?
Ok, I prepared the SD card with the boot loader and the kernel, and set the SMDK6410 cfg switches/jumpers to boot it from SD. But nothing shows up on the LCD. Can anyone (possibly Andy) tell me what should I expect when the kernel boots? and how can I see the ash prompt in the Busybox (as declared by andy)? - Tarandeep On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tarandeep Gill taran.i...@gmail.com wrote: What I guess is, dfu-util does not write to s3c6410 right now, thats why Andy has a small utility that transfers the bootloader and the kernel to a SD card. And I guess right now SMDK6410 (the demo board) can only be booted with the SD card. Am I correct here? - Tarandeep On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote: No DFU capable USB device found Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel to the NAND? not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util. dfu-util should autodetect all DFU capable devices, so if it doesn't find one it is probably not DFU capable. I noticed this because my usb sound card was brutely reset when I tried to flash the FR ;) grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com writes: I've noticed that most but not all iptables commands generate the same Illegal instruction error as well. Has anyone got around this yet? Which instruction is it? Use the following to find out 1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 2) run 3) backtrace 4) x/5i $pc 5) info register Better Cc: me on your reply since I might not notice your reply on the mailing list due to heavy traffic :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So the right command line would be something like ./build GTA02 dummy | to find within the GTA02 directory the modules tar.gz afterwards. Yes but dummy really is a dummy param, it is just checked if it is there or not, so I usually use ./build GTA02 x for example. To save time, most builds I am not giving that second parameter at all. | But before i first run the build script i have to create the GTA02 | directory by hand and copy the .config into it. Else the build script | doesn't find any .config and starts the console configuration of the kernel. Right, part of the gain from this change is that the configs along with the .o files all live in their little worlds now, so nothing gets overwritten in ./GTA02 if you build ./GTA03. I realize that's not exactly being a problem for most people yet, but it was getting pretty bad here having to copy over the config and wait 10+ minutes every time I had to switch to look at something. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklmYjUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMq2vQCeOL4Qg4L2S6I/nDBnPZe371RQ dL0AnjiNLD02U7OTAAZqxU9laXQBkQC0 =IUJK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: Yes but dummy really is a dummy param, it is just checked if it is there or not, so I usually use ./build GTA02 x for example. To save time, most builds I am not giving that second parameter at all. Btw, since I have my compiler in a custom location would be useful if build sourced some local-build-settings file where I could override compiler path? I can modify the real build script but then git complains that I have uncommitted changes. I can also copy the build script to a different name but then I need to constantly keep it in sync with the version in git. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
Yes I get the same problem from the trip menu on Tangogps only. I get the correct lat/long from my other GPS device and also from agpsui on the freerunner. Looks like it is a bug in TangoGPS. Nicolas Laurance wrote: hi all, I've tried several distrib (FSO, SHR) and I have an issue with the GPS maybe more specifically TangoGPS, don't know the symptom is : After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 degree west Does anyone have the same issue ? any idea on how to fix ? -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Helge Hafting wrote: leonardo wrote: More important, the patent is about reduced keyboard disambiguating. If the keyboard isn't reduced, i.e. it has all the keys, then that patent doesn't seem to apply. The illume keyboard aren't missing any keys for example. It only uses a dictionary because users sometimes miss. There is no ambiguity at all to resolve, only error correction for fat-fingered typing. (T9 does not try to resolve wrong-key misses) Disambiguating and error correction is not the same. Oh, and they mention keyboards. Many phones has keyboards with about 12 keys. The neo has a touchscreen instead, its two keys are not used for text input. :-) you're right.. what I meant while writing is that, since moko keyboard is not reduced, it could even suggest words instead of only correct errors without infringing T9. leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com writes:
Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) backtrace
#0 0x9834 in ?? ()
Cannot access memory at address 0x2
(gdb) x/5i $pc
0x9834 __strtoull_internal+1088:teqeq pc, r5, asr r6
Very odd. teq should be perfectly legal instructions that is available
on all architecture versions and does not involve exceptions.
0x9838 __strtoull_internal+1092:cfstrsnemvf4, [r0], #-316
What is this? Google finds this in a list about Cirrus Maverick
co-processor support for GCC.
the following are patches for gas, ld, opcodes, and bfd-- for the
Cirrus DSP arm copprocessor (arm9e).
/* Cirrus DSP instructions. */
+ {cfstrs,0x0c000400, NULL, NULL, ARM_EXT_MAVERIK,
do_c_ldst_1},
-- http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2001-10/msg00134.html
Where did you get these? :-) Please run
1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
2) run
3) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
so that we see what library comes with this __strtoull_internal
implementation.
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Stefan Monnier wrote: [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in a government-provided vault. IIRC, the history of patents is a bit more interesing than people think, and the end result's paradoxes are not as unintended as you'd think. But it really should be expected: just as is still the case now (if not even more), the (potential) holders of big patent portfolio had a lot of leverage. We're going quite OT, but it's a nice talk. I thought I posted this link to the list, but instead I replied directly to Raster. On this topic I found quite interesting this book: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/against.htm Basically, there seems to be no evidence anywhere that patents ever helped development, in any age and country where applied. Obviously, the owner of T9 patent are richer then they were in 1995, but in general they produce more expenses then profits. leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
From: timo.lindf...@iki.fi
To: stix...@hotmail.com
CC: community@lists.openmoko.org; timo.lindf...@iki.fi
Subject: Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:23:00 +0200
Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com writes:
Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) backtrace
#0 0x9834 in ?? ()
Cannot access memory at address 0x2
(gdb) x/5i $pc
0x9834 __strtoull_internal+1088: teqeq pc, r5, asr r6
Very odd. teq should be perfectly legal instructions that is available
on all architecture versions and does not involve exceptions.
0x9838 __strtoull_internal+1092: cfstrsnemvf4, [r0], #-316
What is this? Google finds this in a list about Cirrus Maverick
co-processor support for GCC.
the following are patches for gas, ld, opcodes, and bfd-- for the
Cirrus DSP arm copprocessor (arm9e).
/* Cirrus DSP instructions. */
+ {cfstrs,0x0c000400, NULL, NULL, ARM_EXT_MAVERIK,
do_c_ldst_1},
-- http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2001-10/msg00134.html
Where did you get these? :-) Please run
1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s
192.168.0.0/24
2) run
3) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
so that we see what library comes with this __strtoull_internal
implementation.
Like I said, I got iptables and iptables-utils from angstrom by adding the
angstrom repo using instructions at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories by creating the
/etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf file per the 2008.8 instructions
near the top. Then I used commands opkg update followed by opkg install
iptables iptables-utils. This also
updated the libgcc1 package, since iptables required a newer version than the
openmoko repo contained. (this includes the libgcc_s.so.1 file mentioned below)
-Nick
r...@om-gta02:/etc/opkg# gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j
MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
GNU gdb 6.8
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type show copying
and show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi...
(no debugging symbols found)
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/sbin/iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s
192.168.0.0/24
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
8000-00021000 r-xp 1f:06 14560 /usr/sbin/iptables
00028000-0002b000 rw-p 00018000 1f:06 14560 /usr/sbin/iptables
0002b000-0004c000 rwxp 0002b000 00:00 0 [heap]
4000-4001c000 r-xp 1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
4002-40022000 rw-p 4002 00:00 0
40023000-40025000 rw-p 0001b000 1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
40025000-4002f000 r-xp 1f:06 14557 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
4002f000-40036000 ---p a000 1f:06 14557 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
40036000-40037000 rw-p 9000 1f:06 14557 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
40037000-40148000 r-xp 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40148000-4015 ---p 00111000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
4015-40151000 r--p 00111000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40151000-40153000 rw-p 00112000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40153000-40156000 rw-p 40153000 00:00 0
be85-be865000 rwxp befeb000 00:00 0 [stack]
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Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com writes: 8000-00021000 r-xp 1f:06 14560 /usr/sbin/iptables Ok so the address 0x9838 is indeed inside the iptables binary which thus has been compiled for wrong instruction set. Go build it for armv4 or get a distro that has it prebuilt :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Thanks again, I'll give that a try! -Nick From: timo.lindf...@iki.fi To: stix...@hotmail.com CC: timo.lindf...@iki.fi; community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:00:09 +0200 Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com writes: 8000-00021000 r-xp 1f:06 14560 /usr/sbin/iptables Ok so the address 0x9838 is indeed inside the iptables binary which thus has been compiled for wrong instruction set. Go build it for armv4 or get a distro that has it prebuilt :-) _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NEW PALM - And great news for OM
Ok, if you haven't seen Palm's new release yet, it's going to be a wonderfully pleasant surprise out of the old group: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/08/ces-2009-palm-press-conference/ What this means: assuming palm doesn't screw this up, and I suspect they won't: - We now have 3 top-tier consumer phone platforms: iPhone, Andriod, Palm. - All 3 are Unix based. - the last two are linux based. Which already means we're going to see more good things end up in the linux kernel stack from these vendors. Less work for the OM community, as more people are interested now. But, it also means that the mobile device market is: - Heating up. More products, press, and interest - Growing. We're not going down the same route as the iPod. There isn't a clear market winner, which means it'll grow out heterogeneously into a large, diverse market. Those two mean that OM's going to have some incoming interest just by the other products driving in more customers into the marketplace. Oh, and did I mention that OM's the only one of the four that's C/Posix programmable? iPhone: Obj-C, Android: Java, Palm: HTML/AJAX/Javascript. -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS wrong longitude
it looks like you've previously got a fix, then turned off the gps and restarted it. gpsd will often report phantom locations (usually the last place you were at before turning off) in this situation - even, as in this case, a decent hdop value (2.6) you need to make sure gps is on and wait until it gets a fix This situation is permanent, I never get good data on this screen. Even after a hard reboot and waiting for 25 + minutes in open sky ( no building, no tree, no cloud) The position on the map is correct and stays ok even if I move. I guess, it looks like a bug in Tango ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Ahh dang I should have checked my e-mail again earlier. I followed Timo's
suggestion to rebuild from source, and that worked like a charm. But your fix
would have saved me a bit of time. If anyone wants an ipk of iptables v1.4.2
let me know :)
Thanks everyone
-Nick
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:15:48 -0500
From: freerun...@newkirk.us
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
CC: stix...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Try opkg remove iptables followed by opkg install
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/iptables_1.3.8-r4_armv4t.opk;
;)
j
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:47:56 -0800, Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com
wrote:
From: timo.lindf...@iki.fi
To: stix...@hotmail.com
CC: community@lists.openmoko.org; timo.lindf...@iki.fi
Subject: Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:23:00 +0200
Nick Van Fossen stix...@hotmail.com writes:
Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) backtrace
#0 0x9834 in ?? ()
Cannot access memory at address 0x2
(gdb) x/5i $pc
0x9834 __strtoull_internal+1088: teqeq pc, r5, asr r6
Very odd. teq should be perfectly legal instructions that is available
on all architecture versions and does not involve exceptions.
0x9838 __strtoull_internal+1092: cfstrsnemvf4, [r0],
#-316
What is this? Google finds this in a list about Cirrus Maverick
co-processor support for GCC.
the following are patches for gas, ld, opcodes, and bfd-- for the
Cirrus DSP arm copprocessor (arm9e).
/* Cirrus DSP instructions. */
+ {cfstrs,0x0c000400, NULL, NULL,
ARM_EXT_MAVERIK, do_c_ldst_1},
-- http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2001-10/msg00134.html
Where did you get these? :-) Please run
1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s
192.168.0.0/24
2) run
3) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
so that we see what library comes with this __strtoull_internal
implementation.
Like I said, I got iptables and iptables-utils from angstrom by adding
the
angstrom repo using instructions at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories by creating the
/etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf file per the 2008.8 instructions
near the top. Then I used commands opkg update followed by opkg
install iptables iptables-utils. This also
updated the libgcc1 package, since iptables required a newer version than
the openmoko repo contained. (this includes the libgcc_s.so.1 file
mentioned below)
-Nick
r...@om-gta02:/etc/opkg# gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j
MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
GNU gdb 6.8
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type show
copying
and show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi...
(no debugging symbols found)
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/sbin/iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j
MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
8000-00021000 r-xp 1f:06 14560 /usr/sbin/iptables
00028000-0002b000 rw-p 00018000 1f:06 14560 /usr/sbin/iptables
0002b000-0004c000 rwxp 0002b000 00:00 0 [heap]
4000-4001c000 r-xp 1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
4002-40022000 rw-p 4002 00:00 0
40023000-40025000 rw-p 0001b000 1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
40025000-4002f000 r-xp 1f:06 14557 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
4002f000-40036000 ---p a000 1f:06 14557 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
40036000-40037000 rw-p 9000 1f:06 14557 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
40037000-40148000 r-xp 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40148000-4015 ---p 00111000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
4015-40151000 r--p 00111000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40151000-40153000 rw-p 00112000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40153000-40156000 rw-p 40153000 00:00 0
be85-be865000 rwxp befeb000 00:00 0 [stack]
(gdb)
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Re: NEW PALM - And great news for OM
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:17:55PM -0500, Lally Singh wrote: Ok, if you haven't seen Palm's new release yet, it's going to be a wonderfully pleasant surprise out of the old group: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/08/ces-2009-palm-press-conference/ What this means: assuming palm doesn't screw this up, and I suspect they won't: - We now have 3 top-tier consumer phone platforms: iPhone, Andriod, Palm. - All 3 are Unix based. - the last two are linux based. Which already means we're going to see more good things end up in the linux kernel stack from these vendors. Less work for the OM community, as more people are interested now. But, it also means that the mobile device market is: - Heating up. More products, press, and interest - Growing. We're not going down the same route as the iPod. There isn't a clear market winner, which means it'll grow out heterogeneously into a large, diverse market. Those two mean that OM's going to have some incoming interest just by the other products driving in more customers into the marketplace. Oh, and did I mention that OM's the only one of the four that's C/Posix programmable? iPhone: Obj-C, Android: Java, Palm: HTML/AJAX/Javascript. Isn't this about the N-th time Palm has said that? Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 9th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NEW PALM - And great news for OM
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:17:55PM -0500, Lally Singh wrote: Isn't this about the N-th time Palm has said that? Rui They've been promising forever, but this time they're out with an actual product. A new linux-based software stack, which they've been promising for as far back as I can remember. -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
harshness
so i'm trying to install fdom, so i read ahead a couple steps and decide i need to be sure i could get to the boot menu. (I have a disability, only one working hand, so anything involving the pressing of 2 buttons simultaneously is problematic.) is there a way to force it to boot into the boot menu from an ssh session? if not this would be a nice,and i believe, simple, addition. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS wrong longitude
hi all, After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 degree west Does anyone have the same issue ? Yes, tangogps 0.9.2 and 0.9.3 have an issue converting between coordinate formats in the western or southern hemispheres. If you use the DD.dd format it should display the correct value. any idea on how to fix ? I can send you the patch I sent Marcus back over the summer. I don't think he has bundled a release in a while. many thanks, and, oh, happy new year Nicolas Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
into wifi
r...@om-gta02:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:BA:A8:2F ESSID:sorehead Mode:Master Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality=23/94 Signal level=-72 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Extra:bcn_int=100 Cell 02 - Address: 00:E0:98:D2:F2:C4 ESSID:sorehead-outside Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=40/94 Signal level=-55 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Extra:bcn_int=200 r...@om-gta02:~# udhcpc udhcpc (v1.9.1) started Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... I know this wap works, or i wouldn't be here. thoughts? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
it appears, i successfully installed the gps stuff
but i find nothing in the ui to invoke is there a cli to start it? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: it appears, i successfully installed the gps stuff
2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: but i find nothing in the ui to invoke is there a cli to start it? what d you mean by 'the gps stuff'? locations? tangogps? gpsd? gypsy? navit? or the gps hardware? go to settings, and tap 'GPS'. the text next to it should change from 'off' to 'on' then, assuming gpsd is installed and set up correctly, tango, etc. should be able to use it and show a location ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
the powere button is non-responsive
it seems i have an openbrick -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: it appears, i successfully installed the gps stuff
2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: i am foolishly going through the getting started document. gpsd, tango, some gpe things. i hit the gears othe front screen (settings, yes?) and nothing happens depends which os you're using; the icon for settings in 2008.12 (on my phone) is kind of abstract, multicoloured and says settings under it. is your phone brand new? if so, and you haven't flashed a new os, it's probably running 2007.2. is that correct? i believe 2007.2 is usable, but more people are using 2008.12, although there is a community-based fork to continue 2007.2's development iirc don't forget to reply to all, including the list, rather than just me On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: but i find nothing in the ui to invoke is there a cli to start it? what d you mean by 'the gps stuff'? locations? tangogps? gpsd? gypsy? navit? or the gps hardware? go to settings, and tap 'GPS'. the text next to it should change from 'off' to 'on' then, assuming gpsd is installed and set up correctly, tango, etc. should be able to use it and show a location ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the powere button is non-responsive
2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: it seems i have an openbrick if your battery is flat, that will be the case http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Can.27t_boot_with_discharged_or_missing_battery should answer your questions ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the powere button is non-responsive
now it is spinning through some bootish looking text ad infinitum. i don't believe i let it discharge, unlless the power from a plugged in eeepc is insufficient. it's pretty much either been plugged into the eeepc or the charger. this is unacceptable. I bought this beast in anticipation of building an appliance to assist the handicapped. so far, i am markedly unimpressed and feeling i wasted $400. ( more after i buy a winmobile device to replace it. with all of M$ problems, winmobile devices pretty much seem to function as expected. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: it seems i have an openbrick if your battery is flat, that will be the case http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Can.27t_boot_with_discharged_or_missing_battery should answer your questions -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
what is this angstrom crap?
I let it charge on the charger for a while and it's a little better. i usb''d in and rebooted, and it did, sorta, i got the familiar initial boot text, then the openmoko logo with the progress bar, then i got bootish txt tat started out with angstrom spelled out big and back to spinning bootish text with every fourth line adcrdy. i'm going 6to eave t that way plugged into the charger for a while. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
this looks like it
http://osdir.com/ml/handhelds.openmoko.kernel/2008-03/msg00266.html -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the powere button is non-responsive
2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: now it is spinning through some bootish looking text ad infinitum. i don't believe i let it discharge, unlless the power from a plugged in eeepc is insufficient no, that should be enough . it's pretty much either been plugged into the eeepc or the charger. this is unacceptable. I bought this beast in anticipation of building an appliance to assist the handicapped. so far, i am markedly unimpressed and feeling i wasted $400. ( more after i buy a winmobile device why, what's wrong? the link i sent about battery problems says the charging problems have been sorted, but maybe is not in stable yet. there are lots of bug-fixes coming, if you want them now, untested, install 2008.12 and get the testing branch, with the 2.6.28 kernel to replace it. with all of M$ problems, winmobile devices pretty much seem to function as expected. haha try getting low-level access to the hardware in a winmobile device, like you can with the neo. try getting an engineer to tell you how such-and-such works, so you can programme round it oh, and to answer your other mail - angstrom is a linux distro, which om is based on ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
i found a link that had some suggestions about the acaddy problem, it seemed to indicate the following steps would fix it
and the following happened: ha...@galaxy:~$ ssh r...@openmoko r...@openmoko's password: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed|grep xserver xserver-kdrive - 1:1.3.0.0-r25 - xserver-kdrive-common - 0.1-r27.01 - xserver-kdrive-fbdev - 1:1.3.0.0-r25 - xserver-kdrive-glamo - 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 - xserver-nodm-init - 1.0-r8 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive Upgrading xserver-kdrive-glamo on root from 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 to 2:1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01... Seems I've found a replace xserver-kdrive xserver-kdrive Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-glamo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xservver-kdrive-common Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 4. Collected errors: Cannot find package xservver-kdrive-common. Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update' r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive-fbdev Upgrading xserver-kdrive-fbdev on root from 1:1.3.0.0-r25 to 1:1.3.0.0-r26... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r26_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r26_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-fbdev. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive-glamo Upgrading xserver-kdrive-glamo on root from 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 to 2:1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01... Seems I've found a replace xserver-kdrive xserver-kdrive Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-glamo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-nodm-init Upgrading xserver-nodm-init on root from 1.0-r8 to 1.0-r9.3... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/xserver-nodm-init_1.0-r9.3_all.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/xserver-nodm-init_1.0-r9.3_all.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-nodm-init. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# still spinning and not responding to the power button. do actual openmoko support types read this? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but
unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest
versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share a
tested environment, but it makes so hard to use the latest tools (also
because the e libs have frequent changes).
That's why today I've given to my Toolchain another challenge :P:
compiling E from svn (but following the OE bitbakes configurations)...
After some hours, I got it and I was able to run the latest illume code
in my phone, but without breaking my Om2008.12 installation.
In fact I've installed all my new data to /usr/e17, that's why the
default e installation that comes with Om2008.12 is not touched at all.
If you want to try this too, you could simply follow these steps:
- extract this archive [1] to / (it will automatically put all the
needed data in /usr/e17)
- editing the /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe script by adding the
following code before of exec enlightenment_start $E_PROFILE:
export E_PREFIX=/usr/e17
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$E_PREFIX/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export PATH=$E_PREFIX/bin:$PATH
(you've also to check that your enlightenment profile is set to
illume in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile)
- mv ~/.e/e/config /dev/null (or to any other location)
- Restart your xserver with /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm {stop,start}
- Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the
software_16 rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more
speed) and a lower framerate value...
- if you prefer, you can also use an illume theme coming with SHR or
Om2008.12, simply put it in ~/.e/e/themes/illume.edj
Ok, now you've a fresh install of Enlightenment running instead of the
default one (that can be resumed with a simple rm -rf /usr/e17), but
nothing more... However I didn't made this effort just to get the newest
environment (also if I'd be able to :P), but my final wish was giving a
try to ewww and libeWebKit [2]!
In few words webkit is going to support the EFL toolkit and Gustavo
Barbieri wrote a nice first implementation of this library in the ewww
(test?)browser.
Since the day I saw the announcement I wanted to try it in my phone, and
after that I got webkit compiled I had been able to see ewww in action:
[3], [4], [5]! Also if it's very young, it's so nice: very light, fast
and supports natively (thanks to the efl) the finger scrolling (that,
unfortunately, is quite slow :|)!
However, to try this too :P, you have just to extract to / this archive
[6] that will put to /usr/e17 the ewww data and the libewebkit library.
To run it (I was too lazy for adding a .desktop file :D):
DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/e17/lib /usr/e17/ewww
I think that this could really become our browser in a near future...!!!
Soon, I'd like to give a newer try to guarana and enjoy (not forgetting
the latest elemetary stuffs!)... :P
Bye... ;)
[1]
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/e17-illume%2bsvn20090109.tar.bz2
[2]
http://blog.gustavobarbieri.com.br/2008/12/22/webkit-efl-interface-prototype/
[3] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/ewww-3v1n0.net.png
[4] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/ewww-flickr-Freerunner.png
[5] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/ewww-google.png
[6]
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/ewww-libeWebKit%2bgit20090109.tar.bz2
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Re: i found a link that had some suggestions about the acaddy problem, it seemed to indicate the following steps would fix it
Can you ping the network ? Is your /etc/resolv.conf file properly setup ? On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com wrote: and the following happened: ha...@galaxy:~$ ssh r...@openmoko r...@openmoko's password: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed|grep xserver xserver-kdrive - 1:1.3.0.0-r25 - xserver-kdrive-common - 0.1-r27.01 - xserver-kdrive-fbdev - 1:1.3.0.0-r25 - xserver-kdrive-glamo - 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 - xserver-nodm-init - 1.0-r8 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive Upgrading xserver-kdrive-glamo on root from 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 to 2:1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01... Seems I've found a replace xserver-kdrive xserver-kdrive Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-glamo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xservver-kdrive-common Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 4. Collected errors: Cannot find package xservver-kdrive-common. Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update' r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive-fbdev Upgrading xserver-kdrive-fbdev on root from 1:1.3.0.0-r25 to 1:1.3.0.0-r26... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r26_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r26_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-fbdev. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive-glamo Upgrading xserver-kdrive-glamo on root from 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 to 2:1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01... Seems I've found a replace xserver-kdrive xserver-kdrive Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-glamo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-nodm-init Upgrading xserver-nodm-init on root from 1.0-r8 to 1.0-r9.3... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/xserver-nodm-init_1.0-r9.3_all.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/xserver-nodm-init_1.0-r9.3_all.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-nodm-init. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# still spinning and not responding to the power button. do actual openmoko support types read this? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: To run it (I was too lazy for adding a .desktop file :D): DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/e17/lib /usr/e17/ewww Small typo: DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/e17/lib /usr/e17/bin/ewww -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo / FreeRunner 'stand'
Hmm... This is all starting to sound surprisingly similar to a 'dock' ... Here's a question for the USB / Power experts out there: Assuming such a dock was constructed, that provided a powered USB hub, is it possible for the Neo to simulatneously 1) run in host usb mode, 2) control a USB peripheral, e.g. keyboard, and also 3) to charge the battery from the powered USB hub ? On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:35 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: I like the idea. Don't forget to include some place to stick an usb connector : i have a similar desktop stand for my p990 and it's really useful. -Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Pander Envoyé : mardi 6 janvier 2009 18:55 À : Christopher Friedt; List for Openmoko community discussion Objet : Re: Neo / FreeRunner 'stand' I'm planning to make an open hardware design for something like this and have it manufactured by a 3D printer. Anyone can have it manufactured at a place like http://www.shapeways.com/ At the moment I'm waiting to get some help to get started, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/03 8598.html Christopher Friedt wrote: Wouldn't it be great to have a moulded plastic stand that would just clip into place on the back of the FreeRunner or Neo1973, so that you could rest it on a table in widescreen mode, and have it sit at a comfortable angle? Maybe it's a good 'extra' to include int the box for GTA03 :) Nokia has had a 'desk stand' on their internet tablets since the N770. In the mean time, I'm sure I can work out something using a small triangular piece of wood, crazy glue, a slice from my girlfriend's yoga mat, and velcro :) C ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
OK, I changed out the illume.edj file, but I still have a nasty icon set, and three apps (Contacts and Settings and pythm) have no icons. How do I revert back to the old icons? Also, in the startup config, I told it to add mplayer to the desktop (just to see what it did) and it does nothing (I assume it runs mplayer, but what good is that??) so how do I get rid of that icon? It's not in /usr/share/applications. :( -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
so i try manually starting the x server with:
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start the openmoko please wait screen comes up for a second, and it drops back into the adcady (or is it adcrdy?) loop. seems like some package that could be installed using opkg could fix it. this apparently also broke resolv.conf my unix is rusty, i'll need to read up on the startup scripts -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
